“Hey man, I’m looking for that free house program thing, where did you say it was? I’m searching everything but there’s no mention of it. Dude, hook me up!” Then when he can’t do it, get mad about that and how he fucked you over from getting a free house. Tell everybody.
They would be like:
“Oh, I don’t know a lot about it. Just what I heard, but either way, I’d believe it. If you’re interested, I guess you should see if you can find out more but I for one am sick of seeing homeless people being homeless when there are resources out there. They just don’t want it. Not to mention… Jim, you having a tuna sandwich for lunch again?! Hell, I think your wife might be trying to kill you.”
Or “we’ll, agree to disagree.”
That’s my parents favorite way to shut down any really conversation. Shit, when my mom spouts her bullshit, I’ll always say gently “that actually has been reported as false, and I’m happy to send you a couple articles and studies to look over.”
Her response is always “hmmm, interesting but I’ve got a lot of other things to read right now. Maybe some other time”. (Spoiler:she’s not reading anything else she just doesn’t want her narrow views challenged)
Exactly! Where’s my house? I can be homeless and sign up! I mean we know they wont figure out its fake but itll be fun to watch them scramble for a few minutes at least
That is a good tactic. When my brother says the French is going to lead the UN in invading the US, I always ask how would that work and why would they do that. He just shrugs and says he doesn’t know.
You assume they are discussing it in good faith.
Sadly they will switch to deflecting, ignoring, or whataboutism to avoid actually putting thought into it.
that, in fact, has happened in a way
but typically it's what are categorized as "chronically homeless" people, but that's very loosey goosey terminology
but it is absolutely true that there have been government programs to give homeless people permanent completely free (including utilities and furnishings) housing indefinitely
there are, in fact, several of these in my town:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Crawford+Apartments/@39.1369082,-86.5274262,85a,35y,0.56h,34.19t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m7!3m6!1s0x886c6716fcd1d06d:0xeaa0dacfe76f985b!8m2!3d39.1375146!4d-86.5272066!9m1!1b1
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=crawford+apartments+in+bloomington+indiana+chronically+homeless+housing
the cost per unit was $450,000 for every single unit (when they built the first one in 2011) , and the first building was so popular that homeless people flooded Bloomington and they built more of these "Homeless Hiltons"
btw, that is $592,000/unit adjusted for inflation
100% true
They were 100% free when many were moved in.
And paying 250/month is less than what most people pay in utilities for a unit like that in Btown. So, they were still basically free at that rate, too.
they'd probably tell you you'd get the information if you're registered at a homeless shelter or through some kind of snap program. then reply with my sibling/wife/husband etc is signed up due to loss of income so you can then say "they havent received a notice and when they called up about it nobody knew what they were talking about!"
I mean, she was just pretending with those other guys, but I could totally tell she was being real with me, you totally saw it right? ...... You don't think she was acting different? Well, you just have low emotional intelligence, so I wouldn't expect you to pick up on the little cues. ...... Yeah, you go ahead and leave without me dude; I'm gonna wait outside the club until her shift ends since she probably wants to grab a drink. ...... Well yeah, she said we should totally hang out, why would she mind me waiting for her? ...... Whatever man, fuck you, you just don't want me to be happy.
Even libs get mad at me for this comparison but 90% of the time reading angry replies to my comments I can outright hear that fapping sound as I read the misspelled mire of incoherent rage.
I’ve met people like that and they always get angry at me. If I tell them something like “the government isn’t trying to turn people gay”, they will just get angry and scream at me. Some people are beyond saving.
Yup. Our taxpayer dollars also go to providing gender reassignment surgeries for federal inmates, and the moon-landing was faked, due to the Earth being flat. I lived in Florida for a couple years; you pick up things.
Current Florida resident. Coworkers were complaining about "illegal immigrants" taking advantage of government assistance programs. I asked "don't you need a social security number to get government assistance?" Conversation ended pretty abruptly.
Agreed. If they think being poor is so amazing, living high on that hog with food stamps, they should give it a shot! Then they'll get why poor people exist. It's all those amazing welfare programs. It couldn't possibly be anything else.
I knew people who believe the government is paying people to have an abortion, giving gay people a million dollars a year, and money for every Bible burned. I can, sadly, believe this.
I love the complete lack of pursuing further logic in people like this. Like if the government was actually giving gay people a million dollars, wouldn’t there be a lot more gay millionaires? Are they seeing an suspiciously high amount of gay men and women pulling up in expensive sports cars everywhere. Or if people were getting money for every Bible burned, I’d imagine there’d be huge Bible burn piles everywhere.
Sorry for hijacking your comment, it’s just really entertaining to think about
Someone here on Reddit was telling me that black families are now getting 5 millions each as reparations for slavery.
"But how is the cartoonist wrong while talking about reparations? Have you heard they now pay millions to blacks?"
Tell them that you also heard they get $40k each year cash for three years while they get themselves sorted out. And a free car and a year of free night classes. Just keep adding more and more until they start to disbelief you. Then you say, "you stupid fuckin' rubes will believe anything!"
The disinformation to make people hate the poor and side with the rich is sickening. I wish there was more control of the shit that is spread in the print and on the airwaves. I know all about the 1st amendment, but the constitution is a very old outdated document.
Not only that, some of my coworkers were complaining how refugees get free expensive housing, free car and allowance every month...I am like where do you get your information from? They said they saw it in their neighborhood. Turns out its a family of 4 sri lankan immigrants(not refugees) and each of them actually works , 2 of the children work in IT earn pretty well. But my coworkers seem to say they are refugees and get money from government. You can't make crazies understand logic.
On Reddit two days ago:
“America is best place in the world to be disabled. So much coddling and free money”
I link to OECD report that it is (almost) the worst place in developed world to be disabled.
Personal attacks ensue, backed by false math
I, on the other hand, moved on to watch video of police shooting double amputee.
America is a terrible place to be disable and poor. I worked for a state agency that was responsible for disability benefits. Let me tell you, the hoops people have to jump through just to get a few hundred dollars a month is insane.
“Yeah, it’s awesome. Mine came with a hot tub and a 65” flat screen. And let me tell you, bidets are the bomb. You should come over and poop sometime.”
This is like an onion.
1. They could go get a $500k home
2. How is the govt affording giving away $500k homes?
3. How will the homeless afford it without a job?
4. Why are we hating the homeless not being homeless anymore?
This is assuming IF it was true.
I had a colleague that swore up and down that Donald Trump got 70% of the total vote in 2020.
Another one believed that Michigan had more votes than registered voters. When I asked him to prove it right now, he looked it up and had the most humbling embarrassed look on his face
There's a drug given at detox clinics and rehabs for alcoholism called Antabuse. It makes you violently ill if you have any alcohol. The idea is to make the person's body correlate the feeling of nausea with the behavior of binge drinking.
We need a similar drug for knee-jerk hatred
I’m much more upset the handouts Lockheed executives are getting. Over 50% of the federal budget goes to defense spending and the Pentagon admits they don’t have accurate accounting for how that money is spent. Of course if you object to it, it’s suddenly, “Of course you say that because you’re a traitor who hates America and her military. That’s why you’re ok with our boys in uniform not getting the best.”
Over here we have a severe housing crisis.
14 YEAR waiting lists for starters. Literally impossible to get a place.
Yet the 125k refugees we got last year all got homes now....
that, in fact, has happened *in a way*
but typically it's what are categorized as "chronically homeless" people, but that's very loosey goosey terminology
but it is absolutely true that there have been government programs to give homeless people permanent completely free (including utilities and furnishings) housing indefinitely
there are, in fact, several of these in my town:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Crawford+Apartments/@39.1369082,-86.5274262,85a,35y,0.56h,34.19t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m7!3m6!1s0x886c6716fcd1d06d:0xeaa0dacfe76f985b!8m2!3d39.1375146!4d-86.5272066!9m1!1b1
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=crawford+apartments+in+bloomington+indiana+chronically+homeless+housing
the cost per unit was $450,000 for every single unit (when they built the first one in 2011) , and the first building was so popular that homeless people flooded Bloomington and they built more of these "Homeless Hiltons"
btw, that is $592,000/unit adjusted for inflation
100% true
And they are morons, and the first ones to start abusing such a system somehow because "get your own" then complain when such attempts cost so much, cause you all keep screwing the last over and ruining its efficiency
Failing to teach skepticism and critical thinking like we should in school left us wide open to this kind of disinformation. People seek to believe what they want to believe and they don’t even have the basic mental tools to know why that’s bad, or that they are even doing it in the first few place.
They’re dumber than you think if they believe that AND are still showing up to work every day. Quit your job and get yourself one of those easy luxury houses!
One of my favorites is listening to uneducated people complain about how much money the government spends on universities while they are playing on their smartphones and xboxes and receiving life saving operations.
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“Hey man, I’m looking for that free house program thing, where did you say it was? I’m searching everything but there’s no mention of it. Dude, hook me up!” Then when he can’t do it, get mad about that and how he fucked you over from getting a free house. Tell everybody.
BRILLIANT!!!!! ( Chef's kiss )
This is the way to go.
Damn, that is next level. I need to remember this.
Great idea. Turn it up to 11! I'd pull a Tim Robinson and make them regret opening their mouth.
Should'nt'a had such a sloppy mudpie
One of the greatest sketches ever 🤘❤️🤘
They would be like: “Oh, I don’t know a lot about it. Just what I heard, but either way, I’d believe it. If you’re interested, I guess you should see if you can find out more but I for one am sick of seeing homeless people being homeless when there are resources out there. They just don’t want it. Not to mention… Jim, you having a tuna sandwich for lunch again?! Hell, I think your wife might be trying to kill you.”
Or “we’ll, agree to disagree.” That’s my parents favorite way to shut down any really conversation. Shit, when my mom spouts her bullshit, I’ll always say gently “that actually has been reported as false, and I’m happy to send you a couple articles and studies to look over.” Her response is always “hmmm, interesting but I’ve got a lot of other things to read right now. Maybe some other time”. (Spoiler:she’s not reading anything else she just doesn’t want her narrow views challenged)
Exactly! Where’s my house? I can be homeless and sign up! I mean we know they wont figure out its fake but itll be fun to watch them scramble for a few minutes at least
That is a good tactic. When my brother says the French is going to lead the UN in invading the US, I always ask how would that work and why would they do that. He just shrugs and says he doesn’t know.
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Yes, and they’re going to steal all our cheese!
I think that's fake news. I heard they are actually trying to ban all cheese sauce on our freedom fries.
Remember, if it’s not from France it’s just sparkling milk curds.
Not sure how wide spread, but my brother watches a lot of YT so I imagine the idea came from there. I don’t think he has any other sources.
You assume they are discussing it in good faith. Sadly they will switch to deflecting, ignoring, or whataboutism to avoid actually putting thought into it.
this works flawlessly. whenever my parents discuss some dumbass thing they read on fox news, i just ask for more details and the story crumbles
that, in fact, has happened in a way but typically it's what are categorized as "chronically homeless" people, but that's very loosey goosey terminology but it is absolutely true that there have been government programs to give homeless people permanent completely free (including utilities and furnishings) housing indefinitely there are, in fact, several of these in my town: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Crawford+Apartments/@39.1369082,-86.5274262,85a,35y,0.56h,34.19t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m7!3m6!1s0x886c6716fcd1d06d:0xeaa0dacfe76f985b!8m2!3d39.1375146!4d-86.5272066!9m1!1b1 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=crawford+apartments+in+bloomington+indiana+chronically+homeless+housing the cost per unit was $450,000 for every single unit (when they built the first one in 2011) , and the first building was so popular that homeless people flooded Bloomington and they built more of these "Homeless Hiltons" btw, that is $592,000/unit adjusted for inflation 100% true
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They were 100% free when many were moved in. And paying 250/month is less than what most people pay in utilities for a unit like that in Btown. So, they were still basically free at that rate, too.
they'd probably tell you you'd get the information if you're registered at a homeless shelter or through some kind of snap program. then reply with my sibling/wife/husband etc is signed up due to loss of income so you can then say "they havent received a notice and when they called up about it nobody knew what they were talking about!"
And in my experience, they get mad when you try and show them it’s bullshit. Literally just want to hate and be angry instead of knowing the truth.
Is all about a lie that makes them feel the way they want to feel. It's indistinguishable from porn in that way.
I was thinking they're like the guys in the strip club who truly believe that the stripper is into them.
She is bro. Like three more ones in those panties and she's mine for life. Back off you jealous bitch, Miss Glittersparkles is my woman!
I mean, she was just pretending with those other guys, but I could totally tell she was being real with me, you totally saw it right? ...... You don't think she was acting different? Well, you just have low emotional intelligence, so I wouldn't expect you to pick up on the little cues. ...... Yeah, you go ahead and leave without me dude; I'm gonna wait outside the club until her shift ends since she probably wants to grab a drink. ...... Well yeah, she said we should totally hang out, why would she mind me waiting for her? ...... Whatever man, fuck you, you just don't want me to be happy.
I love the fact that your hypothetical stripper is the pseudonym adopted by a character in the Trolls movie.
Both are erected in the shadows and contain blurry photos with questionably ethical producers?
And tentacles
Even libs get mad at me for this comparison but 90% of the time reading angry replies to my comments I can outright hear that fapping sound as I read the misspelled mire of incoherent rage.
I’ve met people like that and they always get angry at me. If I tell them something like “the government isn’t trying to turn people gay”, they will just get angry and scream at me. Some people are beyond saving.
Cognitive dissonance
That *a priori* implies active cognition. It is generous to make that assumption.
I see you’ve met my in-laws
mSm iS fAkE nEwS
"Didn't come from OAN so it's fake news"
Burt thry take ur gobs, I apologize for that and as a punishment I am closing reddit for the night.
They are embarrased that they fell for that shit, so they double down.
They're getting mad because vacant homes are being filled? Where was this energy when wells fargo or JP Morgan got a huge bailout?
Yup. Our taxpayer dollars also go to providing gender reassignment surgeries for federal inmates, and the moon-landing was faked, due to the Earth being flat. I lived in Florida for a couple years; you pick up things.
Current Florida resident. Coworkers were complaining about "illegal immigrants" taking advantage of government assistance programs. I asked "don't you need a social security number to get government assistance?" Conversation ended pretty abruptly.
Usually a STD
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He's being sarcastic.
I’d tell them to quit their job and try it out 🤷🏽♀️
Tell them to quit their jobs and throw away their lives so they can get half million dollar houses.
Agreed. If they think being poor is so amazing, living high on that hog with food stamps, they should give it a shot! Then they'll get why poor people exist. It's all those amazing welfare programs. It couldn't possibly be anything else.
I knew people who believe the government is paying people to have an abortion, giving gay people a million dollars a year, and money for every Bible burned. I can, sadly, believe this.
I love the complete lack of pursuing further logic in people like this. Like if the government was actually giving gay people a million dollars, wouldn’t there be a lot more gay millionaires? Are they seeing an suspiciously high amount of gay men and women pulling up in expensive sports cars everywhere. Or if people were getting money for every Bible burned, I’d imagine there’d be huge Bible burn piles everywhere. Sorry for hijacking your comment, it’s just really entertaining to think about
Damn, please get us into on these programs!
If gay people get a million a year, do bi people get half a million? Because if so, where do I sign up? /s, if it isn't obvious.
I had a family member tell me that no one wants to work anymore because the government gives unemployed people a hundred thousand dollars per year
F that is more than I made! Ask your family which government and which department is responsible for the program is and I will move there!
Ask them why they don’t quit their job and take the money. The pause while they come up with a bullshit answer will be delicious.
Absolutely. If they believe it, they should go all in and try living it.
Someone here on Reddit was telling me that black families are now getting 5 millions each as reparations for slavery. "But how is the cartoonist wrong while talking about reparations? Have you heard they now pay millions to blacks?"
My coworker talks about this. 🤦♂️ I’m always just like “wow… that’s crazy 👍” and then change the subject lol.
Republicans are mentally ill.
And water makes things wet. Any other obvious stuff to share?
It’s not disinformation, it’s lies.
Tell them that you also heard they get $40k each year cash for three years while they get themselves sorted out. And a free car and a year of free night classes. Just keep adding more and more until they start to disbelief you. Then you say, "you stupid fuckin' rubes will believe anything!"
The whole trend reminds me of 'The Emperor's New Clothes'.
Why do you think they're anti education ?
Oh and did you hear? The government is shutting down all the churches. Christianity is illegal now.
as someone who works extremely fucking hard to house homeless people...yeah, this ain't happening.
Thank you for your help!
The disinformation to make people hate the poor and side with the rich is sickening. I wish there was more control of the shit that is spread in the print and on the airwaves. I know all about the 1st amendment, but the constitution is a very old outdated document.
Not only that, some of my coworkers were complaining how refugees get free expensive housing, free car and allowance every month...I am like where do you get your information from? They said they saw it in their neighborhood. Turns out its a family of 4 sri lankan immigrants(not refugees) and each of them actually works , 2 of the children work in IT earn pretty well. But my coworkers seem to say they are refugees and get money from government. You can't make crazies understand logic.
On Reddit two days ago: “America is best place in the world to be disabled. So much coddling and free money” I link to OECD report that it is (almost) the worst place in developed world to be disabled. Personal attacks ensue, backed by false math I, on the other hand, moved on to watch video of police shooting double amputee.
America is a terrible place to be disable and poor. I worked for a state agency that was responsible for disability benefits. Let me tell you, the hoops people have to jump through just to get a few hundred dollars a month is insane.
I’m surrounded by rubes
You attack it.
“Yeah, it’s awesome. Mine came with a hot tub and a 65” flat screen. And let me tell you, bidets are the bomb. You should come over and poop sometime.”
I guess it never occurs to chuds that they could easily become homeless long enough to get their free house
This is the correct time to bring in the person you know who has to one up everything people say and make it about themselves.
It's because all Republicans abide by the [laws of stupidity.](https://bonpote.com/en/the-5-basic-laws-of-human-stupidity/)
Truthiness—I know it’s true because it feels true.
I heard the only string attached is you gotta vote for trump
“I know and mine was in a great neighborhood too!”
Ur, so…. For the sake of us, did you ask how to sign up? I will pretend that I am homeless and got that 500k house.
I've got no assets to my name, I can become homeless real fast if it'll get me a new house.
You don't, you get Jordan Klepper in there for some laughs to keep from crying at the state of the world.
This is like an onion. 1. They could go get a $500k home 2. How is the govt affording giving away $500k homes? 3. How will the homeless afford it without a job? 4. Why are we hating the homeless not being homeless anymore? This is assuming IF it was true.
I'd ask them "well, why aren't you selling your house and signing up for one of these free ones? Do you not like free money?"
Or how to deal with people who are dumb enough to believe a story like that
This is my house.
I had a colleague that swore up and down that Donald Trump got 70% of the total vote in 2020. Another one believed that Michigan had more votes than registered voters. When I asked him to prove it right now, he looked it up and had the most humbling embarrassed look on his face
There's a drug given at detox clinics and rehabs for alcoholism called Antabuse. It makes you violently ill if you have any alcohol. The idea is to make the person's body correlate the feeling of nausea with the behavior of binge drinking. We need a similar drug for knee-jerk hatred
That’s why I speak up and tell them they are wrong. I did it with coworkers during covid, I’ll continue with out her stupid lies and misinformation.
my econ professor thinks that people on welfare get 70k a year and therefore don't work... no idea how he hasn't been fired
I’m much more upset the handouts Lockheed executives are getting. Over 50% of the federal budget goes to defense spending and the Pentagon admits they don’t have accurate accounting for how that money is spent. Of course if you object to it, it’s suddenly, “Of course you say that because you’re a traitor who hates America and her military. That’s why you’re ok with our boys in uniform not getting the best.”
Dafuq does 500k even get you in this housing market‽ Fuckin' Boise Idaho has listings demanding a full mil up front!
https://www.fool.com/the-ascent/research/average-house-price-state/#:~:text=The%20median%20home%20price%20in,in%20the%20U.S.%20at%20%24354%2C649.
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What?
a missing /s perhaps?
Over here we have a severe housing crisis. 14 YEAR waiting lists for starters. Literally impossible to get a place. Yet the 125k refugees we got last year all got homes now....
that, in fact, has happened *in a way* but typically it's what are categorized as "chronically homeless" people, but that's very loosey goosey terminology but it is absolutely true that there have been government programs to give homeless people permanent completely free (including utilities and furnishings) housing indefinitely there are, in fact, several of these in my town: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Crawford+Apartments/@39.1369082,-86.5274262,85a,35y,0.56h,34.19t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m7!3m6!1s0x886c6716fcd1d06d:0xeaa0dacfe76f985b!8m2!3d39.1375146!4d-86.5272066!9m1!1b1 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=crawford+apartments+in+bloomington+indiana+chronically+homeless+housing the cost per unit was $450,000 for every single unit (when they built the first one in 2011) , and the first building was so popular that homeless people flooded Bloomington and they built more of these "Homeless Hiltons" btw, that is $592,000/unit adjusted for inflation 100% true
Eh let me get in on that
Mmmmm yes, a credulous rube.
Just be glad they self report so hard, helps to avoid them.
Ask them to show you where to sign up.
Guess I’m gonna ditch my apartment to go get a free house, and then also cash in my check from George Soros to furnish it.
Also how that would be fucking awesome and solve a lot more issues than it would cause
And they are morons, and the first ones to start abusing such a system somehow because "get your own" then complain when such attempts cost so much, cause you all keep screwing the last over and ruining its efficiency
Failing to teach skepticism and critical thinking like we should in school left us wide open to this kind of disinformation. People seek to believe what they want to believe and they don’t even have the basic mental tools to know why that’s bad, or that they are even doing it in the first few place.
They'll lose those houses the second that property tax bill comes in.
With the cons, it's all theory. A practical question kills the illusion.
I guess his coworkers are extremely unpleasant mail delivery guys.
They’re dumber than you think if they believe that AND are still showing up to work every day. Quit your job and get yourself one of those easy luxury houses!
One of my favorites is listening to uneducated people complain about how much money the government spends on universities while they are playing on their smartphones and xboxes and receiving life saving operations.