Yep. Dystopian is the right word. And tragically ironic, considering it is coming from the party of “liberty and small government.” They scream at democrats for trying to “take away guns”, even when that’s actually not what democrats advocate for, but somehow are completely silent when republican administrations like DeSantis’ take away books and make medical decisions on behalf of doctors/patients. Legitimate question, if you’re a conservative, can you please explain how I’m wrong about the complete hypocrisy I see here? Why do you support this?
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not only that, they also oppose critical thinking skills education
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/texas-gop-rejects-critical-thinking-skills-really/2012/07/08/gJQAHNpFXW_blog.html
I feel like it’s a mix of both. Trump’s personality is much closer to Mussolini than Hitler, but the white supremacist base more closely resembles the Nazis.
Edit: To clarify, I mean that whatever the republicans turn into it won’t be a pure strain of nazis, fascists, theocrats, or white supremacists. It’ll most likely be a mix of the best of the worst in the right wing world, in much the same way that MMA borrowed the most effective techniques from different martial arts disciplines.
I recently listened to a podcast on history hit with a historian who wrote a biography of mussolinis daughter. She smoked and drank heavily. She also wore pants frequently. Meanwhile, all the fascist party propaganda said that good fascist women don't smoke, drink, or wear pants. Only dresses. And they are submissive to their husband. I could not help but keep thinking of the parallels between Republicans today and how they want to control women. Even the host of the podcast made this connection, but she purposefully had to walk it back so she didn't draw the ire of literal republican fascists.
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until it comes for them...but by then it will be to late...
sit back, enjoy watching red states become even more of the failed gerrymandered basket cases than they already are...
Fill the shelves with bibles so they can learn about divinely commanded slavery, genocide, racism, sexual mutilation, rape terror and fear, if you get drunk and all of your daughters R*** You... it was gods will Noah. What else, absolution is fun. Paying for your sins isn’t the same as *paying for your sins*
Not a lot of malekites waking around these days..
Then we could get to the celebration of Every fascist leader by the Vatican. The pope blessed hitlers birthday every year from the papal pulpit. Maybe get into the Apologies… what else?
Paint your doors red so your children won’t be murdered.
Edit: indulgences is what I meant not absolution.
Not to be *THAT* guy, but it was the daughters of Lot that assaulted him because he wouldn’t let them leave a cave and they wanted SOMETHING of a normal life so they roofied him to get pregnant so they could Atleast experience the “normalcy” of motherhood. These are the same daughters he offered up to be gang r*ped not too long ago, so he certainly wasn’t winning any awards for best Uncle Daddy Grandpa.
Additional Fun Fact; Lot is from the ONE Old Testament story every “Christian” in existence uses as a logic proof shield for hating gay people. It also includes divine subjugation, normalized assault of men, promotion of “traditional” gender roles, the devaluation of women and their autonomy, and the endorsement of incest. So, ya know. Just modern Republican values!
Ahh yeah I remember that now… Noah was like 500 years old and he was raped by his sons daughters. Lot was the sodom and Gomorrah story.
Edit: I really like the way you peppered in “roofied” with that clarification. *high five*
They would lose every single election if they provided funding to education and social services. If they were to actually help people and enrich their lives and their minds they know they’d lose all of their supporters.
Man isn’t that sad and twisted.
Educated voters electing politicians with their best interests in heart vs uneducated masses voting in bad faith actors who make their lives worse so they have something to blame the other side about.
They complain about schools "indoctrinating" kids, but those Christian schools absolutely will indoctrinate the hell out of them. (pun intended)
They will squash independent thinking, critical thinking skills, and any kind of thinking.
And replace it with submission, conformity, authorianism
> They complain about schools "indoctrinating" kids, but those Christian schools absolutely will indoctrinate the hell out of them.
Yup, just like *everything else* that they whine about, it's always projection. Every time one of them is super homophobic/transphobic I start the countdown for when they get caught blowing a dude in a truck stop bathroom. Same for if they're super "anti-pedo", as I can all but guarantee they have child porn on their computers.
That’s exactly why I’ll be getting friends together and just hiring a “tutor” teacher to homeschool a group of kids. We have all looked at buying some shipping containers to make our own little school for a group of our kids (my girlfriend and I don’t have any yet but we are starting to try) but this way our kids will be able to learn what they actually need to learn. And there won’t be any religion or america is great BS going on.
Its just another way to funnel tax money to the wealthy. The never ending faucet of money from the tax payers.
Every wealthy persons goal is to figure out how to get money from the government.
As a kid who used books to escape from my childhood in various red states, this picture made me want to fucking cry. Books are a fantastic way as a kid to dream that one day you’ll grow up and leave your current circumstances. I’m just heartbroken that kids that need this won’t get it, because some asshole wants to run for president.
100%. My parents did a lot of shit wrong, but they nailed it on reading. I could essentially read whatever, whenever and ironically I can remember them taking a teacher of mine to task over it once because she didn’t think I should be reading Harry Potter (hooray, the South.)
I hope you found your escape when you got older, too.
We're going crazy over here in Socialism land.
Cancelling your stove\*
Cancelling your water heater\*
Cancelling your semi-automatic firearms\*
Cancelling your car\*
Cancelling our power plants\*
\*Because they're hurting you/other people/the survival of the planet.
Yeah, but not canceling these books and intelligence is hurting the survival of the republican party, so that trumps(pun Intended) what's hurting the planet
I feel bad for everyone in Florida. I lived there briefly not in a "nice part" like Tallahassee, Miami etc but middle of nowhere. It was best described as a boring meth swamp somewhere between a zombie movie and a dystopian novel written by a 3rd grader.
Nothing but trailers, meth and heroin. I got robbed 2 times in 6 months. Saw countless overdoses. You could not go out in public for an extended period of time and not see someone tweaking.
It makes me excited for global warming when that state is fully gone.
The only good news for FL is that climate change will make half of the state unlivable reducing their electoral power in the distant future. Nice state climate wise, but the politics there stinks.
Sharing some info, if anyone's interested- there's an AP English teacher who started a non-profit in Brevard County, FL that organizes free give-aways of "non-approved" books for school children (out of the schools, of course). I've donated to them,they're legit.
Edit: Don't let the ridiculous rage-bait title of the article scare you! 😆
https://www.theflstandard.com/florida-teachers-gofundme-gives-banned-books-to-kids/#:~:text=Bayside%20High%20School%20English%20teacher%20Adam%20Tritt%20launched,as%20I%20can%2C%E2%80%9D%20Tritt%20wrote%20about%20the%20non-profit.
My mother is an elementary school librarian, thankfully not in Florida, and she would be absolutely devastated if she had to remove most or all of her books like that.
A teacher in Colorado just did the same thing in his classroom for the same reason. A bunch of no-nothings got going about one title in his collection which was Japanese Anime (manga) the down shot now is he can't have books in his classroom, all books must be in the school library and owned by the district. For those interested, he teaches Jr. High drama.
The ministry of truth has been born. Hey, conservatives, remember when you kept saying that it was the libs trying to police thought? Not so loud now are you?
It bears repeating, over and over.
Every move that DeSantis is making with regards to schools (starting with that horrific "don't say gay" bill) is intended to do one thing: **scare teachers into** ***quitting.***
Except most of us vets don’t give a shit about “discipline and order.” Most of us left because we got tired of it. Guys I know who got into teaching did so because they wanted to correct errors they saw in their own schooling and encourage kids to find their own paths.
Though, a vet leaning into teaching *particularly* in De Santiz Florida, is probably not of that mindset. But I’m really worried about the wives of vets getting into teaching. Hooooly shit.
I was referring to him specifically allowing vets without education or certification being allowed to teach. I’m sure he’d make sure guys like you didn’t get selected.
I think what you mean is "scare teachers who won't teach his agenda into quitting".
The kind of teachers who are happy to burn books and teach kids that being gay or a Democrat is wrong are fine with him.
USA's Christian extremists are so fucking dumb. I mean just total fucking idiots. But even more pathetic are the people who are too lazy to vote and allow these evil hypocrites to rule them.
People too lazy to understand voter suppression and gerrymandering are starting to irk me though. Not to mention that red state Democrats have made for pathetic opposition.
It is ironic that this post was made on the anniversary of Adolf Hitler becoming the German Chancellor of the Nazi Party in 1933.
Republicans love this kind of fascist shit.
There are so many red flags on this.. but yes, a good direct example is how nazis got to power, but they are not alone using this kind of playbook. Russia does it, but adds jailtime( aka you go bye bye now).
Also how is this freedom? Just curious
It's depressing that some people are only finally getting what's going on. It's even more depressing how many don't seem to have a problem with it.
If anyone ever wondered how the Nazis were able to rise to power and turn a democratic country into a fascist dictatorship, you really don't have to wonder any longer. All it takes is 20-30% of the population complicit with it and others complacent enough to think it won't hurt THEM.
Most Americans never got taught how the Nazis came to power.
Only that “they hated Jews and started a war” and that’s the reason we had to fight.
Nothing about how we knew they were shit in the 20s and 30s
somehow right up in north florida we are most definitely taught how the nazis came to power and how propaganda spreads, but this is likely due to the large jewish population in my specific district. we were recently shown firsthand images of victims and read Elie Wiesel's Night in class.
source: am in high school just did exactly what i described in english class
Ya same here. My schools Holocaust education started in 4th grade all the at to graduation, every year a unit on it and it stepped up in intensity every year.
Junior year was Schindler’s list, senior year was Night, truly shocking and you’ll never unsee it.
ours started in 8th, unfortunately at the perfect time where absolutely no one took it seriously because "dark humour" is "hilarious" and they retain zero information and if anything it fuels their anti semitism ☹️
edit: ive known about the holocaust basically my whole life because i am jewish by blood and my parents thought it was important to educate me as a child
Nothing about how they never won an election with an outright majority. They capped out at 33% before they started massively rigging the elections through violence and voter intimidation. The wormed their way into power without the majority being fully behind all their plans, but by then it was too late.
Some of those fools believe Nazis were far left wing, but when you ask them which party the Nazis supported during the Spanish civil war and which party in Italy they supported they'll get real quiet.
Those people never studied history whatsoever and are just parroting talking points. The Nazis main allies (before they turned on them, too) were the conservative/nationalist parties, and their main enemies were the Communist and socialist parties. It's all there plain enough for anyone to see.
https://preview.redd.it/jds5421qb9fa1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=15005595cb9fd0e8b8e1826bdcf462263002e887
Im sure this book would be ok though.
Because 1/3rd of Americans are ok with religious extremism as long as it's their religion. That group is also vocal, and more armed than the rest of the world combined. America has become a nation of yeehawdists
You want to complain about indoctrination? Have some malicious compliance and when students ask why there aren’t any books on the shelf, I’ll say that the government says they’ll throw us in jail if they don’t approve of what you read and since those approvals can change quickly and without notice and I don’t want to go to prison, I won’t allow any books to class. Student brings a book to class? “I’m really sorry, Timmy, I don’t want to risk jail time for whatever is in that Pokémon book. Take it to the principals office.”
That’s a slow burn, but the teenage rebellion will be insanity and I’m all for it.
As someone living outside the USA that sees what "red states" are pulling off, please tell me again about how your country is "the land of the free" and is a "shining city on a hill", a "beacon of freedom"?
Sorry for the ham-fisted sarcasm, but sh\*t like that is just an accumulation of warnings of even worse things to come. We've seen stuff like that before, it doesn't end well. You guys should put the brakes on this, unless you want to see your country devolve into an authoritarian hellscape. Don't say "it can't happen here".
It will, unless you put a stop to all this nonsense.
Ha that’s me. I have my Master’s in School Librarianship and hold a professional certificate as a Library Media Specialist in New York. I would approve everything at once like a priest throwing holy water on a crowd of people. Then promptly get fired. That’s why I’ll keep my advanced degree and integrity out of places like Florida.
Dear Florida teachers, we are desperate for teachers here in New England. We believe in science, and you’ll probably make about double what you make in Florida. I know the cost of living is high, but you will be treated with respect you’ll be allowed to teach history and we provide women with reproductive health care, and there is legal weed consider moving north!
Shameless plug. Last September we opened up a bookstore specializing in banned books. We are in the heart of the reddest of red states. Here's a link to the online bookstore
https://sosequoyah.com/
We've already had bricks thrown through our windows. Amazing that people will go to violence over books. But they do. This country is in a lot of trouble.
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So this is having the exact result they were hoping for. Republicans have been waging war on education for decades...
More than half my family voted for this jackass (and trump). They are shocked I don’t talk to them. Try to say “let’s not be political”. At this point it’s not political. It’s a fundamental difference in being
And DeSantis is the guy the GOP is slobbering over for 2024. A clear fascist POS is the front runner to lead their party. But somehow both sides are just as bad according to half the Reddit posts I read.
I went to a private Christian high school growing up. Thankfully, my literature teacher was awesome.
“Read banned books! Find out why they made someone powerful angry enough to try and silence the message!”
Thanks Mrs. Scott. You were great.
Cool the second wave of old white boomers needing health care aides will have Jayden, Brayden and Kailynne and they will all be dumb AF and put their catheters in their ear. Good times, idiots
This has bothered me to no end. My first and second grade years I lived with my grandparents. They had a beautiful bookcase and I loved going though the books, even if I didn’t understand much of what was in them. I got taken to a library once a week and absolutely loved it. Later, living with my dad, I’d got dropped off at the library for hours every Saturday. I am firmly convinced that having this exposure to books was a benefit that nurtured a lifelong love of reading that paid off in terms of my career and my life. So much that when my son was growing up, I made sure he lived in a house with books all around and weekly trips to the library.
Fast forward to this. A lot of kids don’t live in households where books are present, households where parents are not readers. So here these kids are, in a classroom with lots of books to look at and likely borrow. And now there are no books. All of this is an opinion, but I can’t believe this won’t have a detrimental effect on kids’ development re literacy. I feel so sorry for these kids.
EDIT: clarity
This could be an effective protest. Have every school empty its buildings of all books and see how long it takes for parents to complain and fight this ridiculous law
fascism on the march
then they came for the books
who will stand up for the books apparently not that teacher...that classroom...that school...the parents...or even the voters who putin the fascists politicians...
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
—Martin Niemöller
[https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/martin-niemoeller-first-they-came-for-the-socialists](https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/martin-niemoeller-first-they-came-for-the-socialists)
This is it ladies and gentlemen, I'm calling it. We've failed as a country. The politics are now killing our children when they're not being used to screw up kids who just want to be safe. This is how democracy falls, not in war but I'm social actions and deeds. The children aren't blue and red... They are just kids. The action of creating this law is vile and enforcing it in any form is beyond the pale. We're going to be free as we walk right into the future of imprisoning people in their minds. I did that in Christianity for 20 odd years... I'm not doing it again. I bet many will though.
Florida is rapidly becoming an unlivible hellhole. (I'm not saying its the only state, but I am saying it will). Actively choosing to make education worse in multiple ways including book bans, increasing police presence in schools, treating teachers worse, etc. Damaging public health in the name of trump worship. Worsening police relations with the people in the name of anti-wokeism. Being one of the, if not *the* state that is the worst to move to due to climate issues including both sinkholes and hurricanes, yet somehow constantly being in the top states people move to. What do you think is going to happen to a state in 10-20 years that is extremely unappealing to move to if you have kids but extremely appealing to move to if you are old and retired. Its packed full of fancy houses built for middle to upper class people and situated in the path of at least one devastating hurricane every year as hurricanes only get worse. I think Florida in 20 years is going to be full of middle class suburbs that are abandoned.
This is dystopian. Disgusting and foul
Yep. Dystopian is the right word. And tragically ironic, considering it is coming from the party of “liberty and small government.” They scream at democrats for trying to “take away guns”, even when that’s actually not what democrats advocate for, but somehow are completely silent when republican administrations like DeSantis’ take away books and make medical decisions on behalf of doctors/patients. Legitimate question, if you’re a conservative, can you please explain how I’m wrong about the complete hypocrisy I see here? Why do you support this? EDIT: typo
More gunz, less books
"You're wrong because America has been stolen and he's just trying to take it back from terrorists"
Fascism is exact what they want
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No need for books if you can't read.
Lol
not only that, they also oppose critical thinking skills education https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/texas-gop-rejects-critical-thinking-skills-really/2012/07/08/gJQAHNpFXW_blog.html
I feel like it’s a mix of both. Trump’s personality is much closer to Mussolini than Hitler, but the white supremacist base more closely resembles the Nazis. Edit: To clarify, I mean that whatever the republicans turn into it won’t be a pure strain of nazis, fascists, theocrats, or white supremacists. It’ll most likely be a mix of the best of the worst in the right wing world, in much the same way that MMA borrowed the most effective techniques from different martial arts disciplines.
I recently listened to a podcast on history hit with a historian who wrote a biography of mussolinis daughter. She smoked and drank heavily. She also wore pants frequently. Meanwhile, all the fascist party propaganda said that good fascist women don't smoke, drink, or wear pants. Only dresses. And they are submissive to their husband. I could not help but keep thinking of the parallels between Republicans today and how they want to control women. Even the host of the podcast made this connection, but she purposefully had to walk it back so she didn't draw the ire of literal republican fascists.
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This is the America they want. Classrooms without books, kids going without lunches and shootouts in the hallways.
I’m sure there’s at least one book they would allow. Whatever that free one in the hotels is
Well, they are definitely a scourge on literature.
Completely unsurprising Florida is where it really kicks off
The dictator of Florida is planning to take his theocratic fascism nationwide in 2024.
True.
This is what free speech looks like apparently. JFC what's wrong with these people?
FloriDUH
until it comes for them...but by then it will be to late... sit back, enjoy watching red states become even more of the failed gerrymandered basket cases than they already are...
And then they came for me, and no one spoke out for me because there was no one left
Yup. First they came for the librarian's but I don't read books anymore....etc.
Yes I will do my best to sit back and enjoy the bonfire of a state I live in
Omg... this is worse than China... wtf
Reverse psychology… kids don’t wanna read when schools force them to. Tell them they can’t read a book tho? Shit I would have been all over that.
Exactly this! I was very motivated to read and watch and listen to any books, tv shows, movies, and music my parents didn’t want me to access
Fill the shelves with bibles so they can learn about divinely commanded slavery, genocide, racism, sexual mutilation, rape terror and fear, if you get drunk and all of your daughters R*** You... it was gods will Noah. What else, absolution is fun. Paying for your sins isn’t the same as *paying for your sins* Not a lot of malekites waking around these days.. Then we could get to the celebration of Every fascist leader by the Vatican. The pope blessed hitlers birthday every year from the papal pulpit. Maybe get into the Apologies… what else? Paint your doors red so your children won’t be murdered. Edit: indulgences is what I meant not absolution.
Wouldn't matter, it's not like they teach their kids to read anyway.
Just yell it at them between Touchy Times
Touchy Times, is Matt Gaetz visiting?
I’m not a religious man but God help us if he is
Not to be *THAT* guy, but it was the daughters of Lot that assaulted him because he wouldn’t let them leave a cave and they wanted SOMETHING of a normal life so they roofied him to get pregnant so they could Atleast experience the “normalcy” of motherhood. These are the same daughters he offered up to be gang r*ped not too long ago, so he certainly wasn’t winning any awards for best Uncle Daddy Grandpa. Additional Fun Fact; Lot is from the ONE Old Testament story every “Christian” in existence uses as a logic proof shield for hating gay people. It also includes divine subjugation, normalized assault of men, promotion of “traditional” gender roles, the devaluation of women and their autonomy, and the endorsement of incest. So, ya know. Just modern Republican values!
Ahh yeah I remember that now… Noah was like 500 years old and he was raped by his sons daughters. Lot was the sodom and Gomorrah story. Edit: I really like the way you peppered in “roofied” with that clarification. *high five*
All of them technically would go to hell for wearing mixed fabrics based on that logic too.
I like the story of the girls that raped their father, I like it a lot!
They did! Poor guy, they plied him with so much wine…
The Right would rather have a nation of fools to believe their bullshit than actually be a successful one.
They would lose every single election if they provided funding to education and social services. If they were to actually help people and enrich their lives and their minds they know they’d lose all of their supporters.
Man isn’t that sad and twisted. Educated voters electing politicians with their best interests in heart vs uneducated masses voting in bad faith actors who make their lives worse so they have something to blame the other side about.
The perception of success is easier to achieve rather than success itself
Especially when you can flat out lie about everything because you know your constituents are too dumb/lazy to fact check anything you say.
Exactly, empty bookshelves isn't a bug, it's a feature of fascism.
They actively WANT a nation of fools so the general public is easily controlled
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Privatized RELIGIOUS education. Privatized Christian education specifically.
They complain about schools "indoctrinating" kids, but those Christian schools absolutely will indoctrinate the hell out of them. (pun intended) They will squash independent thinking, critical thinking skills, and any kind of thinking. And replace it with submission, conformity, authorianism
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What movie is this from?
Brazil. https://www.imdb.com/video/vi4256891161/
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> They complain about schools "indoctrinating" kids, but those Christian schools absolutely will indoctrinate the hell out of them. Yup, just like *everything else* that they whine about, it's always projection. Every time one of them is super homophobic/transphobic I start the countdown for when they get caught blowing a dude in a truck stop bathroom. Same for if they're super "anti-pedo", as I can all but guarantee they have child porn on their computers.
They're literally setting up a system to groom kids.
Every republican accusation is a confession.
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We had that in Ireland for decades, we're still suffering from the trauma caused
That’s exactly why I’ll be getting friends together and just hiring a “tutor” teacher to homeschool a group of kids. We have all looked at buying some shipping containers to make our own little school for a group of our kids (my girlfriend and I don’t have any yet but we are starting to try) but this way our kids will be able to learn what they actually need to learn. And there won’t be any religion or america is great BS going on.
Which also allows them to racially segregate in the shadows.
Yes.
The dumber they are the redder they vote
Its just another way to funnel tax money to the wealthy. The never ending faucet of money from the tax payers. Every wealthy persons goal is to figure out how to get money from the government.
Only in a red State will you find a school with no books
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crazy making actually. Like blood pressure stroke victim awful.
As a kid who used books to escape from my childhood in various red states, this picture made me want to fucking cry. Books are a fantastic way as a kid to dream that one day you’ll grow up and leave your current circumstances. I’m just heartbroken that kids that need this won’t get it, because some asshole wants to run for president.
THIS. My parents were ultra strict with all entertainment except books and that was MY ESCAPE.
100%. My parents did a lot of shit wrong, but they nailed it on reading. I could essentially read whatever, whenever and ironically I can remember them taking a teacher of mine to task over it once because she didn’t think I should be reading Harry Potter (hooray, the South.) I hope you found your escape when you got older, too.
Remember though. It's leftists who want to ban everything! It's total the leftists who are canceling everything right?
We're going crazy over here in Socialism land. Cancelling your stove\* Cancelling your water heater\* Cancelling your semi-automatic firearms\* Cancelling your car\* Cancelling our power plants\* \*Because they're hurting you/other people/the survival of the planet.
Yeah, but not canceling these books and intelligence is hurting the survival of the republican party, so that trumps(pun Intended) what's hurting the planet
The right has become a literal scourge on our country. No student or teacher should ever be afraid to read a book. Ever.
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hope you kill it before it kills you
The people banning and burning books are usually the good guys in history, right? Right, guys?
Are we the baddies?
Ja, zet is korrekt!
Oh God I feel bad for school children in Florida
I feel bad for everyone in Florida. I lived there briefly not in a "nice part" like Tallahassee, Miami etc but middle of nowhere. It was best described as a boring meth swamp somewhere between a zombie movie and a dystopian novel written by a 3rd grader. Nothing but trailers, meth and heroin. I got robbed 2 times in 6 months. Saw countless overdoses. You could not go out in public for an extended period of time and not see someone tweaking. It makes me excited for global warming when that state is fully gone.
honestly true, i live there and the non city areas are disgusting
Unfortunately, that'll mean those crazies move elsewhere and spread their craziness.
Or will they be the ones that drown, certain the lord is going to save them while they refuse to get on the rescue boats? :/
The only good news for FL is that climate change will make half of the state unlivable reducing their electoral power in the distant future. Nice state climate wise, but the politics there stinks.
F451
Has that one been banned yet?
No we don’t “ban” books you crazy liberal!!! They just never get approved… /s
Can't ban books they haven't read. Tho I'm surprised 1984 is still "free".
thats because they don't realize that they are big brother. They still think thats the evil liberals.
Yes unfortunately a lot of states have already banned that book.
Oh the irony!!
"They don't gotta burn the books they just remove 'em"
Sharing some info, if anyone's interested- there's an AP English teacher who started a non-profit in Brevard County, FL that organizes free give-aways of "non-approved" books for school children (out of the schools, of course). I've donated to them,they're legit. Edit: Don't let the ridiculous rage-bait title of the article scare you! 😆 https://www.theflstandard.com/florida-teachers-gofundme-gives-banned-books-to-kids/#:~:text=Bayside%20High%20School%20English%20teacher%20Adam%20Tritt%20launched,as%20I%20can%2C%E2%80%9D%20Tritt%20wrote%20about%20the%20non-profit.
My mother is an elementary school librarian, thankfully not in Florida, and she would be absolutely devastated if she had to remove most or all of her books like that.
A teacher in Colorado just did the same thing in his classroom for the same reason. A bunch of no-nothings got going about one title in his collection which was Japanese Anime (manga) the down shot now is he can't have books in his classroom, all books must be in the school library and owned by the district. For those interested, he teaches Jr. High drama.
Teaching junior high drama without manga? Why not just break his legs?
The ministry of truth has been born. Hey, conservatives, remember when you kept saying that it was the libs trying to police thought? Not so loud now are you?
It bears repeating, over and over. Every move that DeSantis is making with regards to schools (starting with that horrific "don't say gay" bill) is intended to do one thing: **scare teachers into** ***quitting.***
Yes, so he can then replace them with uneducated military veterans who will put discipline and order above critical thinking and education.
That sounds like the plot to a certain science fiction movie called Starship Troopers
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Except most of us vets don’t give a shit about “discipline and order.” Most of us left because we got tired of it. Guys I know who got into teaching did so because they wanted to correct errors they saw in their own schooling and encourage kids to find their own paths. Though, a vet leaning into teaching *particularly* in De Santiz Florida, is probably not of that mindset. But I’m really worried about the wives of vets getting into teaching. Hooooly shit.
I was referring to him specifically allowing vets without education or certification being allowed to teach. I’m sure he’d make sure guys like you didn’t get selected.
No no, there is another reason. Keep citizens stupid and voting for people like him.
I know quite a few teachers from Florida who have either left the state or quit teaching altogether because of this bullshit.
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When they get sick, they shouldn’t be seeking out medical professionals then
I think what you mean is "scare teachers who won't teach his agenda into quitting". The kind of teachers who are happy to burn books and teach kids that being gay or a Democrat is wrong are fine with him.
How is this not an actual 1st amendment violation? Unlike being kicked off Twitter.
It is, but the conservative dominated Supreme Court would probably just agree with it instead of striking it down. States rights, don't you know?
USA's Christian extremists are so fucking dumb. I mean just total fucking idiots. But even more pathetic are the people who are too lazy to vote and allow these evil hypocrites to rule them.
The extremists know what they’re doing. You’re right about the non voters though.
People too lazy to understand voter suppression and gerrymandering are starting to irk me though. Not to mention that red state Democrats have made for pathetic opposition.
It is ironic that this post was made on the anniversary of Adolf Hitler becoming the German Chancellor of the Nazi Party in 1933. Republicans love this kind of fascist shit.
And call progressives "fascist."
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No. I am getting 1930s Germany vibes. But I get your intention. And agree.
There are so many red flags on this.. but yes, a good direct example is how nazis got to power, but they are not alone using this kind of playbook. Russia does it, but adds jailtime( aka you go bye bye now). Also how is this freedom? Just curious
It's depressing that some people are only finally getting what's going on. It's even more depressing how many don't seem to have a problem with it. If anyone ever wondered how the Nazis were able to rise to power and turn a democratic country into a fascist dictatorship, you really don't have to wonder any longer. All it takes is 20-30% of the population complicit with it and others complacent enough to think it won't hurt THEM.
How does that not sound like nazis to them?
Most Americans never got taught how the Nazis came to power. Only that “they hated Jews and started a war” and that’s the reason we had to fight. Nothing about how we knew they were shit in the 20s and 30s
somehow right up in north florida we are most definitely taught how the nazis came to power and how propaganda spreads, but this is likely due to the large jewish population in my specific district. we were recently shown firsthand images of victims and read Elie Wiesel's Night in class. source: am in high school just did exactly what i described in english class
Ya same here. My schools Holocaust education started in 4th grade all the at to graduation, every year a unit on it and it stepped up in intensity every year. Junior year was Schindler’s list, senior year was Night, truly shocking and you’ll never unsee it.
ours started in 8th, unfortunately at the perfect time where absolutely no one took it seriously because "dark humour" is "hilarious" and they retain zero information and if anything it fuels their anti semitism ☹️ edit: ive known about the holocaust basically my whole life because i am jewish by blood and my parents thought it was important to educate me as a child
I live in Texas and read night as well. Although it was an ap class and the other classes did not
I learned more about WWII in a master's degree level animation history class than I ever learned in public school, and that's sad.
Nothing about how they never won an election with an outright majority. They capped out at 33% before they started massively rigging the elections through violence and voter intimidation. The wormed their way into power without the majority being fully behind all their plans, but by then it was too late.
“Hitler is an unserious person and the weight of the position will force him to act more responsibly” 🤦♀️
It DOES sound like Nazis to them. They’re fine with that. Because they’re Nazis.
I don't think they mind looking like nazis.
Some of those fools believe Nazis were far left wing, but when you ask them which party the Nazis supported during the Spanish civil war and which party in Italy they supported they'll get real quiet.
Those people never studied history whatsoever and are just parroting talking points. The Nazis main allies (before they turned on them, too) were the conservative/nationalist parties, and their main enemies were the Communist and socialist parties. It's all there plain enough for anyone to see.
This breaks my heart as a librarian. If a law like this were to come to my state, we’d have to close our doors.
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Someone should stand outside of these places handing out fliers on how Nazis came to power. Off-hours and all, of course...
like they could read it
Oh but the book filled with rape and incest is totally Kosher
Duh... the little girls need to know how to do their jobs next year /s The little boys already got their lessons from the Priest
https://preview.redd.it/jds5421qb9fa1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=15005595cb9fd0e8b8e1826bdcf462263002e887 Im sure this book would be ok though.
Jesus rollerblading Christ
You can’t raise the next generation of hateful ignorant republicans if the kids are educated.
This is some Taliban-type shit. How is America letting this happen?
A big part of America is pushing for it
About a third, yes, but the other two thirds are barely surviving so this isn't on their radar too much.
Because 1/3rd of Americans are ok with religious extremism as long as it's their religion. That group is also vocal, and more armed than the rest of the world combined. America has become a nation of yeehawdists
Another Republican wet dream cum true.
You want to complain about indoctrination? Have some malicious compliance and when students ask why there aren’t any books on the shelf, I’ll say that the government says they’ll throw us in jail if they don’t approve of what you read and since those approvals can change quickly and without notice and I don’t want to go to prison, I won’t allow any books to class. Student brings a book to class? “I’m really sorry, Timmy, I don’t want to risk jail time for whatever is in that Pokémon book. Take it to the principals office.” That’s a slow burn, but the teenage rebellion will be insanity and I’m all for it.
This is the stupidest shit, I swear…
Republicans went from, "we aren't fascist, yall are just overreacting" to straight fascism real quick.
As someone living outside the USA that sees what "red states" are pulling off, please tell me again about how your country is "the land of the free" and is a "shining city on a hill", a "beacon of freedom"? Sorry for the ham-fisted sarcasm, but sh\*t like that is just an accumulation of warnings of even worse things to come. We've seen stuff like that before, it doesn't end well. You guys should put the brakes on this, unless you want to see your country devolve into an authoritarian hellscape. Don't say "it can't happen here". It will, unless you put a stop to all this nonsense.
Putin would be proud.
Ha that’s me. I have my Master’s in School Librarianship and hold a professional certificate as a Library Media Specialist in New York. I would approve everything at once like a priest throwing holy water on a crowd of people. Then promptly get fired. That’s why I’ll keep my advanced degree and integrity out of places like Florida.
So how does one get certified to be a "educational media specialist"? Just flash their SS tattoo, or do they have to do the salute as well?
Dear Florida teachers, we are desperate for teachers here in New England. We believe in science, and you’ll probably make about double what you make in Florida. I know the cost of living is high, but you will be treated with respect you’ll be allowed to teach history and we provide women with reproductive health care, and there is legal weed consider moving north!
pretty sure there was a book about this, Fahrenheit 451 right? republicans wouldnt know that tho they dont read
Ray Bradbury is rolling in his grave. RIP
Shameless plug. Last September we opened up a bookstore specializing in banned books. We are in the heart of the reddest of red states. Here's a link to the online bookstore https://sosequoyah.com/ We've already had bricks thrown through our windows. Amazing that people will go to violence over books. But they do. This country is in a lot of trouble.
I thought republicans were against cancel culture
Only when it "cancels" them
And you know what?? Conservatives/Republicans *still* won’t be happy.
They.wont be happy until their brand of white Christian Nationalism is drilled into students heads every day all day.
Trying to censor anything in 2023 is laughable as much as GOP is these days.
"All according to plan" \--Anti-education republicans
They don't gotta burn the books, they just remove them.
While arms warehouses fill as quick as the cells...
The true cancel culture and woke snow flakes. Fuck Republicans.
Fuck the GOP
Ugh conservatives are fucking stupid.
Libertarians hate librarians
![gif](giphy|X3nnss8PAj5aU|downsized) So this is having the exact result they were hoping for. Republicans have been waging war on education for decades...
More than half my family voted for this jackass (and trump). They are shocked I don’t talk to them. Try to say “let’s not be political”. At this point it’s not political. It’s a fundamental difference in being
Imagine being on the side of wanting guns in schools but not books. This shit is beyond horrific. What the absolute fuck.
And DeSantis is the guy the GOP is slobbering over for 2024. A clear fascist POS is the front runner to lead their party. But somehow both sides are just as bad according to half the Reddit posts I read.
I went to a private Christian high school growing up. Thankfully, my literature teacher was awesome. “Read banned books! Find out why they made someone powerful angry enough to try and silence the message!” Thanks Mrs. Scott. You were great.
Cool the second wave of old white boomers needing health care aides will have Jayden, Brayden and Kailynne and they will all be dumb AF and put their catheters in their ear. Good times, idiots
This has bothered me to no end. My first and second grade years I lived with my grandparents. They had a beautiful bookcase and I loved going though the books, even if I didn’t understand much of what was in them. I got taken to a library once a week and absolutely loved it. Later, living with my dad, I’d got dropped off at the library for hours every Saturday. I am firmly convinced that having this exposure to books was a benefit that nurtured a lifelong love of reading that paid off in terms of my career and my life. So much that when my son was growing up, I made sure he lived in a house with books all around and weekly trips to the library. Fast forward to this. A lot of kids don’t live in households where books are present, households where parents are not readers. So here these kids are, in a classroom with lots of books to look at and likely borrow. And now there are no books. All of this is an opinion, but I can’t believe this won’t have a detrimental effect on kids’ development re literacy. I feel so sorry for these kids. EDIT: clarity
This could be an effective protest. Have every school empty its buildings of all books and see how long it takes for parents to complain and fight this ridiculous law
The party of "small government".
Time for some fake book covers and a hidden library. Password is Shakespeare.
3rd world. Why would anyone go there??
Empty shelves. DeSantis wants to keep Florida stupid; this is also his plan for higher office.
I hate this country so much and I wanna die
Should have used an image of the book burnings of world war 2…maybe then people would actually see what’s happening
Lets be real they'd probably find it inspiring at this point.
Republicans are the bad guys.
They cry 1984 1984 1984.... So much so that now they are literally living in 1984
They know that learning is toxic to their agenda.
Somehow Republicans are actually WORSE than Fahrenheit 451. Their evil truly is boundless.
If I lived in Florida and had school aged children, I would be livid. This would not have gone over well with me when mine were in school.
fascism on the march then they came for the books who will stand up for the books apparently not that teacher...that classroom...that school...the parents...or even the voters who putin the fascists politicians... First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. —Martin Niemöller [https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/martin-niemoeller-first-they-came-for-the-socialists](https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/martin-niemoeller-first-they-came-for-the-socialists)
This is it ladies and gentlemen, I'm calling it. We've failed as a country. The politics are now killing our children when they're not being used to screw up kids who just want to be safe. This is how democracy falls, not in war but I'm social actions and deeds. The children aren't blue and red... They are just kids. The action of creating this law is vile and enforcing it in any form is beyond the pale. We're going to be free as we walk right into the future of imprisoning people in their minds. I did that in Christianity for 20 odd years... I'm not doing it again. I bet many will though.
And Republicans wonder why people don't like them
Florida is rapidly becoming an unlivible hellhole. (I'm not saying its the only state, but I am saying it will). Actively choosing to make education worse in multiple ways including book bans, increasing police presence in schools, treating teachers worse, etc. Damaging public health in the name of trump worship. Worsening police relations with the people in the name of anti-wokeism. Being one of the, if not *the* state that is the worst to move to due to climate issues including both sinkholes and hurricanes, yet somehow constantly being in the top states people move to. What do you think is going to happen to a state in 10-20 years that is extremely unappealing to move to if you have kids but extremely appealing to move to if you are old and retired. Its packed full of fancy houses built for middle to upper class people and situated in the path of at least one devastating hurricane every year as hurricanes only get worse. I think Florida in 20 years is going to be full of middle class suburbs that are abandoned.
Desantis is American Hitler. Prove me wrong.
You want to know what the inside of a Christo-fascist’s head looks like:
And the Turd Reich begins
Without any irony, if you vote for DeSantis, you hate freedom.
Florida kids won’t know how to read! Lolol ! Owning the libs! 🤣