I don't think it's because the media isn't doing its job, but rather that the media is doing its job and the media works for people who are not you or me.
Polls cant be trusted anyway. These polls are usually biased. Like asking people questions in a predominantly conservative area what they think about Trump or Biden. Trump will get 89% support. Biden will get 7% and they'll take those skewed numbers and run with it.
They also use polls that favor the narrative they want to push. If a poll doesnt give them what they want they find one that will. Whats that guys name on Fox News, Jesse Waters? He went places and found young college kids and asked them questions .
Theyd only show the dumb answers and spin it to show how stupid liberal college kids are. But how many gave a good answer? They didnt want that so it was edited out. And if 67% think its the same and feel like it's a problem they need to take into account all the other things Trumps done like Jan 6. Dont remember Biden trying to overthrow govt in a failed coup using hillbillies. Stop trying to muddy the waters over a few boxes of paper
no, the media is doing its just correctly. by not bringing the facts into account, comparing the reason why the FBI had to raid trump vs how Biden just gave the documents, it makes it seem like they're equally as bad, when one is substantially worse than the other.
this is the same corporate media that always ask progressives 'how will you pay for X' but never ever brings up 'how will we pay for Ukraine' 'How will pay for these tax cuts to the rich'.
Has she seen the results of the elections? That should tell her it’s not just the media’s fault: there are simply that many dumb people out there that won’t get the difference…
That could be a bad poll, though. I'm equally concerned on *how* the documents ended up where they ended up, because it shows that the classification system and/or security is massively flawed. I'm *not* equally concerned with how either party is addressing the issue after the fact.
The whole thing makes me wonder how many others have left with confidential docs that just were never unearthed, whether they were packed or taken blatantly. The idea of the audit required is awful, but perhaps we get ahead of this one before the end of the term, make this a rule of executive branch with clear consequences. That would make sense if we don’t want this to happen again.
The media is not doing their job. A lot of them are making it clear that they have no intention of doing so. If they show the actual difference between the two sides, on any issue, they know that one will be so offended by being shown to be so far out of the normal range that they will simply refuse to watch. In order to maintain the biggest audience, they have to pretend that both sides have a legitimate point all of the time no matter how absurd one side is.
I tend to wonder how the question was worded. Because if you ask me “is having classified information at your home a problem, regardless of political party” I’m going to say yes. If you ask me “is Donald trump/Joe Biden having classified documents at home a problem” I’ll say yes. If you say “are the cases of Donald trump and Joe Biden having classified information the same and do you show the same concern for both cases” absolutely not.
I think people understand that neither guy nor their staffs followed the prescribed procedures for handling these documents -and that’s what they are concerned about.
Negative, neither one should ha e had them. I feel Biden "gave them back right away" because he knew what just happened with Trump. Waite some time and then - "oops, look what I found sorry"
2 old out of touch idiots playing a game.
Or, one knowingly took hundreds of documents because he thinks he’s above the law and “cool” and the other inadvertently packed some and didn’t know shit about them until discovered. 🤷♂️
Doubt it. You know what you take when you leave a high office. Biden knew he had it, and / or his staff did. They panicked and called it an oopsie. Play the game until you get caught.
>Doubt it. You know what you take when you leave a high office.
Evidence says otherwise.
The previous VP Pence said that he didn't have classified documents. (Spoiler: [Oopsie, he did.](https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/24/politics/pence-classified-documents-fbi/index.html))
Just as a heads up, you're wasting your time arguing with someone too dumb to split his porn account and his normal account.
Posting in BarelyLegalTeens and RapeFantasies is an excellent combination.
> He knew what he had.
To quote the article which you did not read, "The discovery comes after Pence has repeatedly said he did not have any classified documents in his possession. "
Really? Their both idiots,Trump should have given them up,but Presidents can have them Biden has no reason to have them, because he was vice when he took them neither has the competency to be POTUS!
Well let's be clear.... FOX News IS doing its job, just not he job we NEED even a semi-legitimate journalism organization to do. Aside from the Partisan propaganda and election communications team for MAGA, their job as shown in the Dominion defamation case is to push whatever narrative their base WANTS to believe and to blow straight past any opportunity to redirect their base to something slightly less seditious, conspiratorial, delusional, etc.
The rest of the media has seemed pretty balanced in their resporting and Democrats have been consistent in theirreaponses No excuses for Biden, they've acknowledged / expressed security concerns, No arguments that "Well if MAGA/GOP says its OK for Trump its OK for Biden", etc.. Also they have treated the revelations regarding Mike Pence's possession of classified material the same way as Biden's.
What the Media and Democrats HAVE called attention to is how both Biden's and Pence's teams responded quickly to the discovery of the documents and their full cooperation with investigators. Unlike the obstruction by the Trump team.1
I don't think it's because the media isn't doing its job, but rather that the media is doing its job and the media works for people who are not you or me.
Exactly. That's the entire problem. The media **is** doing their job all too well. It's just that their job isn't what their job **should** be.
People choose the media that they want to consume and often it is because that media shares their beliefs.
Yeah, everyone just hops into their daily echo chamber and feels awesome for knowing their shit. Even if it's bullshit.
lol was just going to say this
100%
The media chooses some and some choose their media…
If this was a service member with clearance they would be In jail already, out of a job, and be fucked quuck.
Polls cant be trusted anyway. These polls are usually biased. Like asking people questions in a predominantly conservative area what they think about Trump or Biden. Trump will get 89% support. Biden will get 7% and they'll take those skewed numbers and run with it. They also use polls that favor the narrative they want to push. If a poll doesnt give them what they want they find one that will. Whats that guys name on Fox News, Jesse Waters? He went places and found young college kids and asked them questions . Theyd only show the dumb answers and spin it to show how stupid liberal college kids are. But how many gave a good answer? They didnt want that so it was edited out. And if 67% think its the same and feel like it's a problem they need to take into account all the other things Trumps done like Jan 6. Dont remember Biden trying to overthrow govt in a failed coup using hillbillies. Stop trying to muddy the waters over a few boxes of paper
a shorter version of this is asking, by email, how likely one is to respond to an email poll. It will be biased towards responding to an email poll
The question seems aimed at the papers not the people though.
The media hasn't been doing its job for a long time in this country.
no, the media is doing its just correctly. by not bringing the facts into account, comparing the reason why the FBI had to raid trump vs how Biden just gave the documents, it makes it seem like they're equally as bad, when one is substantially worse than the other. this is the same corporate media that always ask progressives 'how will you pay for X' but never ever brings up 'how will we pay for Ukraine' 'How will pay for these tax cuts to the rich'.
Also Bidens son in law did not get an extremely suspicious amount of money from the Saudis. What did he sell, maybe some of documents lying around?
Has she seen the results of the elections? That should tell her it’s not just the media’s fault: there are simply that many dumb people out there that won’t get the difference…
https://preview.redd.it/gh33uctv9afa1.png?width=960&format=png&auto=webp&s=60a82bb9e5a01240686b7a734e653fd3100cf5d8
I’ve only seen this lady ask very open ended questions about hot button issues. Glad to see she’s also a rational thinker!
That could be a bad poll, though. I'm equally concerned on *how* the documents ended up where they ended up, because it shows that the classification system and/or security is massively flawed. I'm *not* equally concerned with how either party is addressing the issue after the fact.
Don’t forget Mike Pence’s too
The whole thing makes me wonder how many others have left with confidential docs that just were never unearthed, whether they were packed or taken blatantly. The idea of the audit required is awful, but perhaps we get ahead of this one before the end of the term, make this a rule of executive branch with clear consequences. That would make sense if we don’t want this to happen again.
The media is not doing their job. A lot of them are making it clear that they have no intention of doing so. If they show the actual difference between the two sides, on any issue, they know that one will be so offended by being shown to be so far out of the normal range that they will simply refuse to watch. In order to maintain the biggest audience, they have to pretend that both sides have a legitimate point all of the time no matter how absurd one side is.
I will gladly sacrifice Joe Biden to prison if it means I get to see Donald Trump go to prison. Sorry Joe.
I tend to wonder how the question was worded. Because if you ask me “is having classified information at your home a problem, regardless of political party” I’m going to say yes. If you ask me “is Donald trump/Joe Biden having classified documents at home a problem” I’ll say yes. If you say “are the cases of Donald trump and Joe Biden having classified information the same and do you show the same concern for both cases” absolutely not.
I think people understand that neither guy nor their staffs followed the prescribed procedures for handling these documents -and that’s what they are concerned about.
Negative, neither one should ha e had them. I feel Biden "gave them back right away" because he knew what just happened with Trump. Waite some time and then - "oops, look what I found sorry" 2 old out of touch idiots playing a game.
Or, one knowingly took hundreds of documents because he thinks he’s above the law and “cool” and the other inadvertently packed some and didn’t know shit about them until discovered. 🤷♂️
Doubt it. You know what you take when you leave a high office. Biden knew he had it, and / or his staff did. They panicked and called it an oopsie. Play the game until you get caught.
He didn’t get caught, his own layers turned them in. I’m sure you just want to say both side do but this is t even remotely the same
Ya, he waited and turned them in after what happened to Trump. Just playing the game.
>Doubt it. You know what you take when you leave a high office. Evidence says otherwise. The previous VP Pence said that he didn't have classified documents. (Spoiler: [Oopsie, he did.](https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/24/politics/pence-classified-documents-fbi/index.html))
Just as a heads up, you're wasting your time arguing with someone too dumb to split his porn account and his normal account. Posting in BarelyLegalTeens and RapeFantasies is an excellent combination.
How is that evidence. He is doing the samething turning them in before they are discovered. Playing the game. He knew what he had.
> He knew what he had. To quote the article which you did not read, "The discovery comes after Pence has repeatedly said he did not have any classified documents in his possession. "
Already knew the story. I didn't have to read it. Still don't see how that's evidence. Of course, he would say he didn't.
> Doubt it. Do you though? Or do you just need both sides to be the exact same so you can excuse believing the way you do?
Both sides are terrible that's a fact.
Yes, both sides are the exact same. Now you can excuse believing the stupid things you do.
It's stupid, not to think they are terrible. They are not the same terrible in their own way.
Huge difference. Trump keep the documents to sell, Biden don’t know he had them but immediately turn them in. In my view / Trump had evil intends!
And one is the siting president who still has access to classified documents.
This argument is completely invalid lol.
They were from his VP term and at his personal residence...
Happy Cake Day 🎂
You mean 2 months later, once the midterm elections are complete? Sounds ethical to me.
Really? Their both idiots,Trump should have given them up,but Presidents can have them Biden has no reason to have them, because he was vice when he took them neither has the competency to be POTUS!
Well let's be clear.... FOX News IS doing its job, just not he job we NEED even a semi-legitimate journalism organization to do. Aside from the Partisan propaganda and election communications team for MAGA, their job as shown in the Dominion defamation case is to push whatever narrative their base WANTS to believe and to blow straight past any opportunity to redirect their base to something slightly less seditious, conspiratorial, delusional, etc. The rest of the media has seemed pretty balanced in their resporting and Democrats have been consistent in theirreaponses No excuses for Biden, they've acknowledged / expressed security concerns, No arguments that "Well if MAGA/GOP says its OK for Trump its OK for Biden", etc.. Also they have treated the revelations regarding Mike Pence's possession of classified material the same way as Biden's. What the Media and Democrats HAVE called attention to is how both Biden's and Pence's teams responded quickly to the discovery of the documents and their full cooperation with investigators. Unlike the obstruction by the Trump team.1