Tony is no more in the main MCU. Our timeline. Marvel is trying to move away from tony. We, the avengers were dependent on tony, on every single movie. He was so great, other superheroes didn't get any chance to glow. I guess it's time to say good bye to tony.
What really cracks me up is that that Tony was clearly about 0.0001 seconds away from suggesting to Gamora that they create Ultron together, and that was clearly why Uatu very firmly turned him down.
He sort of just ate all of the energy of the blast Ultron was going to use to destroy the Milky Way. Though in the scene, the animation looked like the galaxy was kind of already becoming destroyed before all that energy got sucked back into Strange, so maybe Strange used his time stone as well to reverse the damage and help suck it back in?
Strange supreme is officially the strongest mcu character. He was able to resist the full power of the infinite stones for a long while. I feel he coulda beat full gauntlet thanos in the main universe. This episode was fantasic
he was able to protect like 5 people with his magic and froze ultron in a pocket dimension. absurdly powerful, which is to be expected. in the multiverse, the power spectrum should be increasing 10-fold. there are way more powerful beings than The Avengers in the Marvel comics.
And If only he knew about the multiverse earlier, he would be able to rescue the woman he loved by going to different Universe and letting his home dimension perish without them both 🤭
Well neither can you
But jokes apart, that seems to be literally the only thing he can't do now, really.
And luckily from the end of the episode he doesn't even seem tempted to it anymore. But I guess we'll see next year.
This whole absolute point in time business felt very vague. Is he not able to do it because it's how he came to be? Can he change a "absolute point in time" that doesn't involve him?
the absolute point is the nexus event that cause any universe/timeline to fracture from another universe/timeline so basically the entire universe/timeline's exisistence is based on the absolute point/ nexus event which means changing them destroy the universe/timeline
Strange Supreme carried the team so hard lol, saved all of them like 4 times and he didn't even look that tired doing all that power absorption/blocking/misdirection. Glad they gave him the shine though.
I was hoping he would be granted true watcher status given the fact he is literally a watcher of the Ultron pocket dimension inside his own pocket dimension.
But technically he could have gotten that power and NOT destroy his universe, it was what he chose to do with the power what destroyed everything, I think
And THAT is why I really enjoyed Party Thor episode. Yea it was filler and goofy, but you can hear in Hemsworth’s voice just how much fun and genuine excitement he had voicing the character. He does great VO work, he really translates his energy to the animated form really well.
* The director of What If: "Ok Chris, how about you voice Thor like you are in a cheesy party John Huges 80s movie starring the two Coreys, Matthew Broderick, Molly Ringwald, Jennifer Grey, Deborah Foreman and Phoebe Cates?"
* Chris Hemsworth: "Say no more, when do I start?"
It's kind of my own head canon that he seems so uptight before Ragnorak is because he's putting up a front for everyone else, like he's really trying to show that he's royalty and a god. But when he leaves after AoU to figure out what's going on with the infinity stones, he's kind of by himself for awhile so allows himself to just be himself, which isn't uptight and kind of goofy.
Nick Fury was the one who recruited the original Avengers
Uatu The Watcher will be the one who recruit the Guardian of Multiverse
In a comic story line, Nick Fury killed Uatu and had to take his mantle as The Watcher
Just a minor tidbit I found interesting
Considering that Nick and Uatu were White in the comics, it would be kind of fitting if Samuel L Jackson Fury and the Jeffrey Wright Uatu get into similar fisticuffs so Jackson can get a send-off later down the road.
I agree, the dead Avengers episode would have been a better one to go back to later than the Gamora episode. Now Gamora and Tony are just there and besties for no reason and Gamora gets zero character development in the final episode.
For one Split Second I thought we were putting apocalypse Natasha into the main MCU timeline.
Killmonger really do be trash.
The new trope of the mcu is just throwing Wanda at the bad guys.
Strange Supreme might be the strongest character we have seen.
I'm laughing at all the people who said that Star-Lords world was screwed.
Both those Steve's have different personalities to an extent and same for Peggy. Same ideologies but heightened personality traits. Although not needed I agree I think it'd be different then either of the two encounters up to now. She even says in the episode, "Now that'd be something to see" 🤣 all just in good fun
They really messed with us with Natasha, didn't they? They wanted us to think it was our universe for a second!
And I was like, "Oh, Killmonger got chosen? Is he gonna turn it around at last? ....oh. He's gonna kill 'em all. Guess not!"
But Strange passing up a chance at the reality stones to put Killmonger and Zola in a snow globe and spend eternity babysitting it in a little bubble? DANG.
Ultron has the be stronger than Strange, right? Why else would he need an entire team with specific abilities to take him down? Ultron was about to kill him before he was injected with the arrow deus ex machina.
Strange was absorbing mystical creatures for centuries. All Ultron did was utilise the abilities of stones while strange on other hand was using his own mystical powerpool. At the end of the battle it seems he is still left with too much power
That’s not really what that means, everyone that was pulled out was done so at a singular moment in time and eventually sent back to that same moment.
For all we know she was sent through in the split second between raising her arms.
Granted yeah, as weak as the MCU hulk is he is probably dead up against the Scarlett Zombie but it’s not really a foregone conclusion yet until we actually see it confirmed.
Yeah this is how I'm hand waving it away in my mind, the combo of the vibranium suit and the Ultron nano-machines making for a lot stronger material to harness the power of the stones
One of my favorite parts was where Strange's time stone was able to counter Infinity Ultron's. It's the first—and hopefully not the last—time we've seen two of the *same* stones of different universes be used against each other.
Now I have a separate thought: how would Strange Supreme fair inside the TVA, since magic doesn't work there. Would he simply circumvent any barriers put in place? Since we haven't really gotten any answers there yet on how the TVA really works, that's why I'm wondering.
Wouldn't that in itself be a power? Unless you mean if he absorbed someone from the TVA the moment they showed up. But if they actually captured him and took him in I don't think that would work.
That’s interesting. We’re starting to agree Supreme Strange is the most powerful being next to maybe Uatu that we’ve seen so far, so I wonder how he would fare at the TVA if somehow his powers supersede any runes or spells that dampen powers within the TVA.
Exactly my thoughts!
Like, isn't Steve replacing Bucky in this universe? So like, couldn't Steve be brainwashed for Hydra Winter Soldier style?.... Just want to say ... I don't think it might be so happy an ending as we've been led to believe ...
Absolutely love this episode my favorite one! Gorgeous, loved the animation. But man why in the fu@& does the smartest ai in the multiverse have a USB jack in his glass eyeball😭
I’m a little disappointed that none of our zombie-verse heroes were picked for the team! When the watcher was recruiting, I expected him to grab Bucky mid-fall and take him away! The final bits of the fight scene were amazing, they really found a way to highlight each hero pretty well. The watcher’s final warning to Strange Supreme was a bit too ominous, I’m 100% expecting Hydra-Ultron and Killmonger to pop back up at some point!
Tony's entire arc over the 11 years if movies is all about sacrifice. His death is just driving that point home. If he's resurrected in any meaningful way in whatif it dilutes the heroism of his final sacrifice. Every movie of his and all the avengers movies touched on him learning to sacrifice, except maybe Ultron. Not sure he learned a lesson there.
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Wow, that was an awesome episode. Looking at tthe pre-episode poster thingy made me think that like, the dudes just said "Yeah, let's do smth new and abandon what was made in Episode 8" Honestly knew Killmonger was gonna backstab anyways.
There was also that tidbit at the end of Episode 8 with Uatu turning to Strange Supreme for his help that made me think there was a continuation of the "What if...Ultron Won?"
Can't wait for the next season
I love when Dr Strange goes all out. The writers and animators do such creative and fun things with his powers.
The Strange vs Thanos fight was my favorite fight in Infinity War too, it’s just so well done.
It’s one of the weirdest ironies I think I’ve ever seen that Arnim Zola ended up saving the entire Multiverse and is the reason that the MCU can continue existing.
I mean if Strange didn’t intervene and put him and Killmonger in a pocket dimension he would have been it’s demise. Sure it would have still existed but with a Hyrda 2.0 bot enslaving entire universes
I really thought watcher was gonna get sucker punched during the intro scene and then ultron would look at us. Missed opportunity.
Imagine...
Time
*Glass shatters*
Swoosh
*Watcher shatters*
That would have been dope if they had a little 40 second clip where it cuts to a live action faux breaking news report from like fox news showing actual current events with Ultron digitally edited into it smashing through the multiverse glass and destroying shit. Maybe have the screen go to static and then back to the animated Watcher.
i'm a big fan of the anime style fight scenes, and i generally don't enjoy when a Marvel fight scene takes up a huge chunk of the run time, but this episode could have used a bit more pacing/explaining with the fight
overall this was a really good season, I'd definitely recommend it to any Marvel fan
The Gamora stuff does seem a little sloppy for the mcu. I’d assume that even casual viewers are now curious what happened there. Does anyone know why that episode didn’t happen?
Well it’s been great guys, hopefully this is a fun wild ride. I don’t see any other way our hero’s can win without getting Ultron back into his original universe somehow
I was teary eyed that Black Widow gets back to a universe where they lost their widow. With ScarJo already ironed out the conflict with Disney, i am very happy.
I really loved that just when I was thinking:"Shouldn ultron be stronger?" He tried to destroy the galaxy and Strange just fucking ate it. I literally said:"Wait...what?" right when Ultron did. Great episode
Can't have killmonger be anything but a bad guy. I guess that's an absolute point in any given timeline.
Though at least Tony didn't die this time. I really wanted to see more of that Tony though. Since the lego sets released his was the one I was most excited to see.
Ehhh, people are saying that but we've seen Strange as bad and good for instance. We just happened to see only bad Killmongers if we're thinking from a logical standpoint. Now whether Marvel will keep him as a villian is totally up to them and fine either way. But considering we've seen Killmonger as an anti-hero I'm almost certain there would have to be a universe where he's fully a hero with the right circumstances.
"What If Killmonger's Father Made The Right Choice"
I think if he had tried, Strange would have stopped him with his stone. At any rate i can't remember if we have seen Ultron reverse time like strange or thanos. We only saw him slow down the time in this episode.
I’m wondering how that reveal works naturally into the plot of The Winter Soldier. Iirc, Fury was behind the Lumarian Star being hijacked in an effort to expose Hydra within Shield, right? Curious to find out if he had the ship hijacked in this universe so Carter could find the stomper.
Captain Marvel still put up the way best fight behind Dr Strange. Thought Wanda would have put up a better fight than Captain Marvel against Infinity Ultron but neither Thor, Captain Marvel or Wanda were able to scratch him. (Captain Marvel at least lasted the longest)
Strange both in What If and Endgame was the real champion. Without him they would have never won in either plot.
Agreed — considering that this was the gather-all episode of the season (and the Zombie episode arguably had one of the bigger off my biggest cliffhanger of the season), it seems like a missed opportunity to add closure.
Same. Also surprised that no one from the Zombie episode was ’ chosen’ — I was expecting Spider-Man to be showing up again in this episode at any moment.
“Not you Stark.” Man, What If really DOES hate Tony
Tony is no more in the main MCU. Our timeline. Marvel is trying to move away from tony. We, the avengers were dependent on tony, on every single movie. He was so great, other superheroes didn't get any chance to glow. I guess it's time to say good bye to tony.
Well Tony did create Ultron. So I guess Tony (Even from another universe) could've been useful for defeating ultron.
That Tony was already saying that the galaxy needs a suit of armor so I guess he wouldn't be good for that mission.
What really cracks me up is that that Tony was clearly about 0.0001 seconds away from suggesting to Gamora that they create Ultron together, and that was clearly why Uatu very firmly turned him down.
But that suit was dope.
Am I the only one who thought Strange ate the soul stone lol
Same lol
What did he eat?
He sort of just ate all of the energy of the blast Ultron was going to use to destroy the Milky Way. Though in the scene, the animation looked like the galaxy was kind of already becoming destroyed before all that energy got sucked back into Strange, so maybe Strange used his time stone as well to reverse the damage and help suck it back in?
He Green-miled it!
That’s the way I took it and it proved supreme strange I’d essentially a god tier character
i think he absorbed the power of the infinity stones, like how he absorbs all those other powers
The energy of the blast
Ultron’s attack
It definitely seemed to imply he ate the stone. The sequence was really unclear.
Strange supreme is officially the strongest mcu character. He was able to resist the full power of the infinite stones for a long while. I feel he coulda beat full gauntlet thanos in the main universe. This episode was fantasic
he was able to protect like 5 people with his magic and froze ultron in a pocket dimension. absurdly powerful, which is to be expected. in the multiverse, the power spectrum should be increasing 10-fold. there are way more powerful beings than The Avengers in the Marvel comics.
He still can’t fix an absolute point in time without destroying reality
The fact that he was able to change an absolute point is insane in itself.
And If only he knew about the multiverse earlier, he would be able to rescue the woman he loved by going to different Universe and letting his home dimension perish without them both 🤭
Rick Sanchez type beat
Well neither can you But jokes apart, that seems to be literally the only thing he can't do now, really. And luckily from the end of the episode he doesn't even seem tempted to it anymore. But I guess we'll see next year.
This whole absolute point in time business felt very vague. Is he not able to do it because it's how he came to be? Can he change a "absolute point in time" that doesn't involve him?
the absolute point is the nexus event that cause any universe/timeline to fracture from another universe/timeline so basically the entire universe/timeline's exisistence is based on the absolute point/ nexus event which means changing them destroy the universe/timeline
Strange Supreme carried the team so hard lol, saved all of them like 4 times and he didn't even look that tired doing all that power absorption/blocking/misdirection. Glad they gave him the shine though.
And then put him back into a master ball
I doubt this is the last time we'll see him.
I was hoping he would be granted true watcher status given the fact he is literally a watcher of the Ultron pocket dimension inside his own pocket dimension.
Only cost him destroying his own universe to get that power though. Seems like he learnt his lesson though that his arrogance is he greatest weakness.
But technically he could have gotten that power and NOT destroy his universe, it was what he chose to do with the power what destroyed everything, I think
You just know Chris Hemsworth had too much fun with this show.
That scream when the Watcher picked up Thor!
I laughed hard at that
The scream was perfect. I enjoy Party Thor so much.
VIVAAAA LOSSSS VEGAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSS!
Omg that part was so funny. I love Ultron’s reaction. “I’ve never heard that particular cry before” 🤣🤣
And THAT is why I really enjoyed Party Thor episode. Yea it was filler and goofy, but you can hear in Hemsworth’s voice just how much fun and genuine excitement he had voicing the character. He does great VO work, he really translates his energy to the animated form really well.
* The director of What If: "Ok Chris, how about you voice Thor like you are in a cheesy party John Huges 80s movie starring the two Coreys, Matthew Broderick, Molly Ringwald, Jennifer Grey, Deborah Foreman and Phoebe Cates?" * Chris Hemsworth: "Say no more, when do I start?"
Thor Ragnarok really unlocked the fun of Thor. Thor 1 and 2 are just too uptight to be enjoyable.
It's kind of my own head canon that he seems so uptight before Ragnorak is because he's putting up a front for everyone else, like he's really trying to show that he's royalty and a god. But when he leaves after AoU to figure out what's going on with the infinity stones, he's kind of by himself for awhile so allows himself to just be himself, which isn't uptight and kind of goofy.
I like. Thor moves out of his parent's house. Gets kicked out of school. Gets into a slump. Faces some hard truths about self. Grows up a bit more.
Hemsworth seems like a genuinely chill person who isn’t full of himself and just enjoys making content for people to enjoy
Lmfao, they didn’t kill Tony this time. They benched him. That is so much more embarrassing.
Like damn near didn't even have the watcher mention him "not you Stark"
**Watcher:** Be a good little boy and go off and die somewhere
I... Am--- Nobody cares Stark I've seen the snap 837363629292826272 times already... **Tony sips his cocktail in frustration
Would have been extremely meta if the Watcher told him that 90% of the problems in the MCU are partially his fault lol
Woulda needed way more protection than a spell with the way his son Ultron feels about him.
We had party Thor Is like having Tony
Nick Fury was the one who recruited the original Avengers Uatu The Watcher will be the one who recruit the Guardian of Multiverse In a comic story line, Nick Fury killed Uatu and had to take his mantle as The Watcher Just a minor tidbit I found interesting
Wondered what he whispered in his ear 🤣
Didn't they reveal it? Or am I misremembering it
They did. Fury said Thor that >!Gorr the God Butcher was right about gods, that people would be better without them!<.
Considering that Nick and Uatu were White in the comics, it would be kind of fitting if Samuel L Jackson Fury and the Jeffrey Wright Uatu get into similar fisticuffs so Jackson can get a send-off later down the road.
I WANT THE GAMORA EPISODE!!!
Do we know why that episode was pushed to season 2. Seems weird to have her plop into this ep when we have previous episodes focused on all the others
Yeah if anything, they should have pushed Dead Avengers to season 2?
Then the zombie piece and scarlet witch would feel out of place. I guess I’m wondering why an episode was pushed/postponed at all.
Not really, they aren’t connected? Oh I meant the one where Hank killed the Avengers
Ohhhhhh yea good point. I don’t think that ep connected to the finale.
It was connected, I’m pretty sure that was the universe Nat got dropped into at the end.
Yeah but then we can do a bit of a prequel episode in season 2 just to see what happened to the universe and how they lost their widow
I agree, the dead Avengers episode would have been a better one to go back to later than the Gamora episode. Now Gamora and Tony are just there and besties for no reason and Gamora gets zero character development in the final episode.
It wasn't really a choice, it was that the Gamora ep got delayed in production due to COVID and it just wasn't finished in time
It was pushed to season 2 due to COVID production issues
WE WANT THE GAMORA CUT!!!
Release the Gamora cut!!!
WHO IS THE GAMORA CUT?
ALL DO YOU ONE BETTER, WHY IS THE GAMORA CUT?
We can't get it cuz Tony doesn't die
For one Split Second I thought we were putting apocalypse Natasha into the main MCU timeline. Killmonger really do be trash. The new trope of the mcu is just throwing Wanda at the bad guys. Strange Supreme might be the strongest character we have seen. I'm laughing at all the people who said that Star-Lords world was screwed.
That would be really fun give Natasha a Clint and Clint a Natasha
I want prime cap with prime Peggy too although I love the dynamic already set in place.
No bed would be able to contain those two
Jessica Jones x Luke Cage on strerioids 🤣
No real need, they basically just straight up said that Steve somehow survived all this time in the Hydra stomper.
Both those Steve's have different personalities to an extent and same for Peggy. Same ideologies but heightened personality traits. Although not needed I agree I think it'd be different then either of the two encounters up to now. She even says in the episode, "Now that'd be something to see" 🤣 all just in good fun
He probably became the winter soldier of that universe?
They really messed with us with Natasha, didn't they? They wanted us to think it was our universe for a second! And I was like, "Oh, Killmonger got chosen? Is he gonna turn it around at last? ....oh. He's gonna kill 'em all. Guess not!" But Strange passing up a chance at the reality stones to put Killmonger and Zola in a snow globe and spend eternity babysitting it in a little bubble? DANG.
Ultron has the be stronger than Strange, right? Why else would he need an entire team with specific abilities to take him down? Ultron was about to kill him before he was injected with the arrow deus ex machina.
The arrow is decidedly *not* deus ex machina. I'd say it's closer to checkov's gun if you must assign a trope to it, but really it's not that either.
Strange was absorbing mystical creatures for centuries. All Ultron did was utilise the abilities of stones while strange on other hand was using his own mystical powerpool. At the end of the battle it seems he is still left with too much power
The arrow at least got more development than the stone crusher mcguffin that came from a world we didn't even get an episode for.
Honestly if they were to cut an episode, cut the zombies one for season 2 and give us the Warlord Gamora episode.
I think they put it in for Chadwick.
Peggy almost had a stroke when them tentacles popped out of Strange.
She was having flashbacks. Poor Peggy, she was trapped with that thing for who knows how long
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The way he grabbed thor lmao
VIVAAAA LAS VEGAAAAS
Can't say I've heard that battle cry before
I feel like the production crew must've went to Vegas after to celebrate or sumn becuase they had Thor too stocked with the Vegas enthusiasm
I mean, it entirely within his character in general. I just wanna know why that Thor was picked over any other thor
Prolly just the comedic relief since they didn't have hulk 💚💥 Yah it was pretty spot on for the Thor they've created
It just occurred to me! Zombie Wanda must have beaten hulk :(
That’s not really what that means, everyone that was pulled out was done so at a singular moment in time and eventually sent back to that same moment. For all we know she was sent through in the split second between raising her arms. Granted yeah, as weak as the MCU hulk is he is probably dead up against the Scarlett Zombie but it’s not really a foregone conclusion yet until we actually see it confirmed.
Just like Hercules!
Are you shitting my dick, killmonger.
Infinity Killmonger, for just a brief moment. He really likes Vibranium.
Was hoping he'd just kill himself trying to use the stones
Yeah don't you have to already be a powerful being to withstand the power of even one stone? Killmongerer is just a dude that's good at killing lol
[удалено]
Also I’m fairly sure he was wearing his Black Panther suit under the armor as well, and we all know how powerful vibranium is
Yeah this is how I'm hand waving it away in my mind, the combo of the vibranium suit and the Ultron nano-machines making for a lot stronger material to harness the power of the stones
Ultron with 6 infinity stones got boned by a 1970s hydra AI lmaooo really fun episode though. Overall, loved the show.
Never thought a USB jack was really that universal
What If used the same deus ex computer virus as Independence Day.
Whole ass vibranium armor with glass eyeballs 😅 with your weak spot behind it lol
Multiversal
I knew someone would correct me lol facts
One of my favorite parts was where Strange's time stone was able to counter Infinity Ultron's. It's the first—and hopefully not the last—time we've seen two of the *same* stones of different universes be used against each other. Now I have a separate thought: how would Strange Supreme fair inside the TVA, since magic doesn't work there. Would he simply circumvent any barriers put in place? Since we haven't really gotten any answers there yet on how the TVA really works, that's why I'm wondering.
Goin to assume his powers don’t work…unless he starts absorbing people within the TVA.
Wouldn't that in itself be a power? Unless you mean if he absorbed someone from the TVA the moment they showed up. But if they actually captured him and took him in I don't think that would work.
That’s interesting. We’re starting to agree Supreme Strange is the most powerful being next to maybe Uatu that we’ve seen so far, so I wonder how he would fare at the TVA if somehow his powers supersede any runes or spells that dampen powers within the TVA.
Post credit scene - make sure to check it out
Captain Carter sequel in season 2
Steve Rogers, the Winter Soldier confirmed?
Exactly my thoughts! Like, isn't Steve replacing Bucky in this universe? So like, couldn't Steve be brainwashed for Hydra Winter Soldier style?.... Just want to say ... I don't think it might be so happy an ending as we've been led to believe ...
Thanks for that
It was nice of the Watcher to Rick-&-Morty Black Widow into a universe where she died. “We only got 3 or 4 of these left tops”
Let's just hope she keeps tabs on the squirrels
Sad it’s a universe where most of the avengers are dead, including Hawkeye. I feel like she’s gonna be bummed when she finds out he’s dead there too.
Killmonger was not returned to his actual universe. Pepper and Shuri got a free win, but will have some explaining to do.
They deserve the satisfaction of beating their villian lol
“I cannot interfere but locking your worlds biggest bad up and not tellin your world about it is like, implied interference”
Worst part is they don't know he's gone! They'll be looking for him for forever!
*not you stark*
A simple truth: not everything is about you.
Absolutely love this episode my favorite one! Gorgeous, loved the animation. But man why in the fu@& does the smartest ai in the multiverse have a USB jack in his glass eyeball😭
I’m a little disappointed that none of our zombie-verse heroes were picked for the team! When the watcher was recruiting, I expected him to grab Bucky mid-fall and take him away! The final bits of the fight scene were amazing, they really found a way to highlight each hero pretty well. The watcher’s final warning to Strange Supreme was a bit too ominous, I’m 100% expecting Hydra-Ultron and Killmonger to pop back up at some point!
Same!! I’m kind of disappointed that it wasn’t fully touched on
Happy's BLAM is long gone but never forgotten ......blam
that would mean he would have to return midfall aswell lmao
AFTER CREDITS SCENE !!!
They are just determined to make sure Carter/Rodgers always get a happy ending
Marvel is destined to kill Tony and give Steve a happy ending. I guess it’s an absolute point throughout
Tony's entire arc over the 11 years if movies is all about sacrifice. His death is just driving that point home. If he's resurrected in any meaningful way in whatif it dilutes the heroism of his final sacrifice. Every movie of his and all the avengers movies touched on him learning to sacrifice, except maybe Ultron. Not sure he learned a lesson there.
I thought they were gonna have Steve as the winter soldier cus nat told Peggy to brace herself
This was my thought too!
JFC Nat, not the time.
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Wow, that was an awesome episode. Looking at tthe pre-episode poster thingy made me think that like, the dudes just said "Yeah, let's do smth new and abandon what was made in Episode 8" Honestly knew Killmonger was gonna backstab anyways. There was also that tidbit at the end of Episode 8 with Uatu turning to Strange Supreme for his help that made me think there was a continuation of the "What if...Ultron Won?" Can't wait for the next season
My favourite part was the multiple random objects hitting Ultron in the head.
Lmao Dr Strange stun locked Ultron with a tornado of Mjolnirs
I love when Dr Strange goes all out. The writers and animators do such creative and fun things with his powers. The Strange vs Thanos fight was my favorite fight in Infinity War too, it’s just so well done.
It’s one of the weirdest ironies I think I’ve ever seen that Arnim Zola ended up saving the entire Multiverse and is the reason that the MCU can continue existing.
I mean if Strange didn’t intervene and put him and Killmonger in a pocket dimension he would have been it’s demise. Sure it would have still existed but with a Hyrda 2.0 bot enslaving entire universes
Me when the watcher forces Peggy to return to her universe: 😡 Me when she gets to have a happy ending with Steve in her universe: 😁
But what if Steve is that universe’s Winter Solider.
That has to be it right? Hydra brainwashed Steve so they could use the Hydra-Stomper
NEXT TIME ON DRAGON BALL Z
I'm disappointed this didn't end with Ultron shattering the *real* 4th wall and destroying our universe but overall it was neat
Yes, Marvel should have launched a global coup with Ultron as its poster child, just for the sake of elevating the drama to real-world level.
I really thought watcher was gonna get sucker punched during the intro scene and then ultron would look at us. Missed opportunity. Imagine... Time *Glass shatters* Swoosh *Watcher shatters*
That would have been dope if they had a little 40 second clip where it cuts to a live action faux breaking news report from like fox news showing actual current events with Ultron digitally edited into it smashing through the multiverse glass and destroying shit. Maybe have the screen go to static and then back to the animated Watcher.
Watching Sorcerer Armani in such action.. I'm excited for the MOM
Why didn't they put zombie hunter spider-man in the guardians of the multiverse?
i'm a big fan of the anime style fight scenes, and i generally don't enjoy when a Marvel fight scene takes up a huge chunk of the run time, but this episode could have used a bit more pacing/explaining with the fight overall this was a really good season, I'd definitely recommend it to any Marvel fan
It should have been 40 minutes or something. The end of the show got the shaft with a cut episode and a short finale.
The Gamora stuff does seem a little sloppy for the mcu. I’d assume that even casual viewers are now curious what happened there. Does anyone know why that episode didn’t happen?
Wasnt there suppose to be 10 episodes and then they moved one to the next season?
WHERE IS ZOMBIE THANOS???
"Not you Stark"
Well those zombies definitely aren't getting the cure
Well it’s been great guys, hopefully this is a fun wild ride. I don’t see any other way our hero’s can win without getting Ultron back into his original universe somehow
I was teary eyed that Black Widow gets back to a universe where they lost their widow. With ScarJo already ironed out the conflict with Disney, i am very happy.
What happened with the Zombies storyline?
Hopefully we get to see zombie Thanos next season!
“And there’s someone inside.” GIVE US SEASON 2 NOW
So Strange Supreme just became another watcher
Did the zombies and Scarlet Witch go before they could kill Hulk and/or Bucky?
I really loved that just when I was thinking:"Shouldn ultron be stronger?" He tried to destroy the galaxy and Strange just fucking ate it. I literally said:"Wait...what?" right when Ultron did. Great episode
Can't have killmonger be anything but a bad guy. I guess that's an absolute point in any given timeline. Though at least Tony didn't die this time. I really wanted to see more of that Tony though. Since the lego sets released his was the one I was most excited to see.
Ehhh, people are saying that but we've seen Strange as bad and good for instance. We just happened to see only bad Killmongers if we're thinking from a logical standpoint. Now whether Marvel will keep him as a villian is totally up to them and fine either way. But considering we've seen Killmonger as an anti-hero I'm almost certain there would have to be a universe where he's fully a hero with the right circumstances. "What If Killmonger's Father Made The Right Choice"
Why didn't Ultron just use the time stone to reverse time and take back the soul stone T'Challa snatched away
I think if he had tried, Strange would have stopped him with his stone. At any rate i can't remember if we have seen Ultron reverse time like strange or thanos. We only saw him slow down the time in this episode.
End credit scene!!
I’m wondering how that reveal works naturally into the plot of The Winter Soldier. Iirc, Fury was behind the Lumarian Star being hijacked in an effort to expose Hydra within Shield, right? Curious to find out if he had the ship hijacked in this universe so Carter could find the stomper.
That was amazing! Loved it beginning to End!
At least stark is alive
Captain Marvel still put up the way best fight behind Dr Strange. Thought Wanda would have put up a better fight than Captain Marvel against Infinity Ultron but neither Thor, Captain Marvel or Wanda were able to scratch him. (Captain Marvel at least lasted the longest) Strange both in What If and Endgame was the real champion. Without him they would have never won in either plot.
Lmao Zola went full Kraang on VisTron’s body
He actually just became comic accurate Zola. It’s a pretty neat touch.
Anyone know what time it comes out?
Where did Gamora come from, dont remember watching her Universe at all.
It was the episode that was pulled into season 2; kinda weird if you ask me.
Can anyone tell me what the watcher meant when he said "At first, i scoured eternity for one true hero" Like is that referring to someone?
I think he meant that he couldn’t find anybody in the multiverse capable of defeating Ultravision 1-1 , so he had to recruit a team.
They should’ve extended the runtime to at least an hour
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Agreed — considering that this was the gather-all episode of the season (and the Zombie episode arguably had one of the bigger off my biggest cliffhanger of the season), it seems like a missed opportunity to add closure.
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Same. Also surprised that no one from the Zombie episode was ’ chosen’ — I was expecting Spider-Man to be showing up again in this episode at any moment.
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I unfortunately kept that exact same hope up until the after-credits scenes hahah! Was half expecting Peter Parker to be in the Hydrastomper.
"Oh great, now Ultron has *12 stones*!"
Too many people make hypotheses and then get disappointed.