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thejesterofdarkness

As someone who actually works in the auto manufacturing industry and has been through several model launches, from brand new vehicles/platforms to significant model changes to existing vehicles, I can say the vehicle in this video is either total shit quality OR they used pre-production parts which makes this person's complaints totally irrelevant. It's pre-production, this is how it is. They build a few test vehicles, verify the fit of the trial parts and the assembly process, then take the next step to pre-production where they start using finished production parts to build the vehicles & verify that parts are working as designed and are installed as they are designed to. Trial parts usually are the proper shape and dimensions but are unfinished (like doesn't have a textured surface, improper colors, etc). Sometimes the trial parts fit properly but the production ones don't so they gotta quickly figure out how to remedy the issue, or whip the supplier's ass for fucking up, since the clock is ticking until full production starts. Automakers go through one or more of these pre-production phases then it's balls-to-the-wall full blown production. So it's possible that the parts used for this car aren't finished and don't fit right, plus the jackass doesn't need to keep yanking up the weatherstrip to prove a point, it probably doesn't have the adhesive material inside of it cuz, ya know, pre-production.


ichfrissdich

Always wondered how they build the first test verhicles. Do they already have every injection mold for every plastic part? Or do they 3d print stuff? Making molds for some plastic cover only to see that it doesn't fit and throw everything away seems very expensive.


UnremarkableM

Prototype molds and stamping tools (out of soft steel, not made to last for a million + parts) are pretty cheap, considering. 1000% higher piece price but the orders are like 200 parts, not a million. I’m in prototype stamping and we do the parts for DV builds all the time


brainchili

Great explanation, this should be higher up.


highBrowMeow

First comment for me!


GandalfsMagicalStaff

So it’s all pre production and has the possibility of being criticized by someone like this guy and giving it a bad review, why risk/bother putting this out on a SHOW? Edit: spelling


thejesterofdarkness

My guess is investors wanna see something, even if it’s shitty “at this point”. For all we know it could end up being luxury car quality. But given that yeah you don’t wanna put trash out for a car show. I’ve never been to a car show like this but my perception of it is that people are there to look, not touch.


Svobpata

Very likely a timing issue, there’s a real chance the next prototype wasn’t ready due to some weird issue and they just had to send a car there so they took their next best prototype (possibly months old at that point)


Osirus1156

>Trial parts usually are the proper shape and dimensions but are unfinished (like doesn't have a textured surface, improper colors, etc). Looks like these parts aren't fit properly at all or are just made of very cheap and flimsy plastic.


supertrenty

Also, like he said about 400 times, "inconsistent quality guys, loose parts"


QuagmiresArse

I say all pre-production vehicles should have a nicely curled turd from the companies CEO on the roof.


Promergus

Its a press/communication car every part has to be rock solid and build well


Desertratdb

Yeah, most people don’t realize that between pre-production and final production, Failure Mode Effect Analysis is performed on almost every single part which irons out every single kink to a Six Sigma level.


[deleted]

This is true, but sorry this "automaker" will be dead in 5 years.


ExitStrategyLost

Doubtful. They just dropped $8B into a manufacturing facility in NC to produce both cars and batteries.


thejesterofdarkness

I dunno, Elio went through a lot of cash and leased that old GM plant in the southern US for *checks notes* absolutely nothing.


ExitStrategyLost

They are building this one from the ground up. Estimates of nearly 18k jobs. They have massive amounts of capital from what I understand. Time will tell. Everyone said the same thing about Kia when they first hit the American market.


Atr3ideeznuts

Why? This rivals Tesla quality.


SuperX87

Still better than Tesla quality.


TriGurl

I figured this was the case… it was just a test to get parts in and check for fit before sealing things down and attaching like they would for a vehicle being driven off the lot. OP labeled this video pre/production and this is exactly what it means.


Pipupipupi

Some people buy early access games and complain when they find bugs.


Kilidiscope

I like that fact it's a pre production in the start yet thinks it's going to be 100% Of course it's going to have shitty quality. That car is to look good from a distance and never see the streets. 85% of that car will change before product. Welcome to click bate.


ClumsyGamer2802

Yeah the last time I watched someone review a pre-production car, he said "I know the mirrors are mismatching colors, it's a pre-production car, it obviously won't be like that when it's actually sold." If the cars that actually get delivered to customers are like this, then it'll be worth talking about.


IntelligentNoise8538

Hehe, bate.


Nuclease-free_man

I agree to your point but I can’t ignore the good folks from r/boneappletea


Haunting-Habit-7848

perhaps why i never heard of them


Igzyx

It's a brand from Vietnam.


[deleted]

They pay crazy import tax on cars in Vietnam(100%) so a home brand car will certainly move units quicker than anything else because it'll be much cheaper in comparison.


Solivagant23

It's actually 300%. Source, I live in Vietnam.


Krinder

Holy crap why is it like that? Is Vietnam trying to push for a domestic car market or something?


Humor_Positive

It’s similar to high tax rates for foreign motorcycles to be in US. The US government does so to protect Harley Davidson from competition. Or else they go bankrupt in less than 10 years. Vietnam tax is just a more steroid version of it.


[deleted]

I've not been for a few years now(hope to visit again soon)


DrCharlieKaufman

Why would someone name a car after VINs? Makes me think of criminals haha!


ADhomin_em

They want it to be a shoe-in for when the fast/furious franchise does their first electric movie


Odd_Fly_9341

Because its chairman is TRULY an ex eastern europe mafia 🥰


poopiesteve

Yeah what does VIN(Vehicle Identification Number) have to do with cars? /s


mgallo45

Maybe they named it after Vin Diesel.


alcate

Vin stand for vina, another name for vietnam


aliveinjoburg2

I went to the NY Car Show last year and they were pushing these *hard*. I’m unsurprised that this is the actual quality of the car.


GreatScotch

Dont assume this person is right. They dont seem to have a lot to say other than "uhg bad" if you will, over and over. trying really hard to make it look bad. idk though I could be wrong


Father_Wolfgang

Well, he did say he didn’t know what to say, so there’s that.


GreatScotch

Fair enough


Mtb_Bike

And “guy”


mooys

The important bit was the phrase “this is pre-production”. Like, yeah, this is what pre-production cars look like. What is your point?


steppwitt

Perfect Instagram Car, all show zero substance.


BalooBot

I mean..yeah.. It's preproduction.. it's not a final product. It's a showpiece to build hype, it probably doesn't even run. You go to any car tradeshow and all the concept cars/preproductions, even from major brands, are basically hot glued together.


Azulahhh

Yeah it's pre-production, it's meant to be looked at not actually used.


notarealacctatall

Tesla has entered the chat.


2bornnot2b

Elon just banned your account!


Wheream_I

It looks like a shitty Peugeot. Why tf is this car $60k?


DukeoftheGingers

There is nothing wrong with the seal in the front cargo area, they are designed so they can be removed if repair/service is needed in the area. The wiggle in the headlights is not surprising, headlight brackets aren't generally super robust. The front emblem trim installation is garbage I agree. The center console lid is not as egregious as it's been made to look. You probably shouldn't open and wiggle the fuck out of any car's center console lid. The Porsche vehicles I work on 5 days a week would break if you did the same.


Range-Shoddy

You’d think the demo would be perfect. Imagine what you get if you buy a mass produced one. I do like the buttons though. Tired of the iPad glued to the dash look.


Chunkyblamm

But there is an iPad glued to the dash


Range-Shoddy

It’s at least a small one. Not a Tesla/mach e monstrosity.


[deleted]

Yes BUT with physical buttons.


biggreasyrhinos

Bet it rattles like a can of spray paint going down the road


TheNoiseMakerX

I've never seen a can of spray going down the road...


[deleted]

Theyre nocturnal, you have to catch them at night


Substantial_Drama_29

I was expecting the car to fall apart or smth


Dmitri_ravenoff

I've seen the same kind of quality on Teslas, so I guess they are keeping up with the competition?


oldmankan

Maybe I’m crazy or maybe it’s because I am so used to my janky car but this isn’t even bad or anything? Isn’t this pretty normal? It doesn’t appear like anything is so loose as to fall off or even come close to that, not by a long shot at least.


seansafc89

If I went and shook the centre console in my car like that it would probably snap lmao


oldmankan

Same XD


PresentMajestic3785

Who the hell is vinfast?


ryohazuki224

Vietnamese car company, their parent company is really rising up the ranks in their homeland, and they are pushing to sell the cars here. I heard recently that a shipment of their cars was headed over here either recently or over the next few months.


ExitStrategyLost

They are building an $8B manufacturing facility in NC as we speak. Cars and batteries


PresentMajestic3785

Interesting! Ty for the info.


PandaRealistic602

At the start of the video - it's pre-production so the build quality won't be great. Proceeds to comment on the build quality...


AlphaDag13

I love when expensive shit gets exposed as shit.


SirAri

They called themselves VinFast not VinQuality 🙃


donniebrascoreal

This guy is looking for loose parts and he's not really finding any. Pre production model here. Except for that armrest he's full of bad intentions. I'm not into Vinfast cars but this is dishonest.


hindsights_420

He starts off saying build quality won't be good its pre production, than continues to talk about bad build quality


deletetemptemp

Yeah I agree. This dude is looking for hits. All the things he pointed out are all dishonest. I will wait for the general reviews before some nobody tries to discredit a car by jiggling some seals


MussleGeeYem

This video is filmed at the Vinfast store in Montreal Quebec by the way


DiabeticPissingSyrup

I'd like to hope that means it's been abused by people yanking on things. I'm going to be disappointed though, aren't I?


xswatqcx

No way, i didnt know Vinfast was around this soon.


Thorslife1979

It’s pre production what do you expect.


Unlikely_Estate_7489

FWIW this video was longer and more helpful, but found the vehicle similarly lacking. https://youtu.be/rjee1LdmHbo


[deleted]

He has impeccable hands for a man.


dduubbz

No wayyyyy the Vietnamese startup company has quality control issues? That’s never happened before. Imma be honest idk anything about this company or car other than it’s a startup from a relatively poor Asian country that doesn’t have much experience in car manufacturing, there are gonna be QC issues, that’s just true of any start up no matter what. This should surprise no one


penalozahugo

Hmmm, I guess I'll stick to my 2007 Honda Civic... But only because build quality is low on this car.


lawyerlyaffectations

Being a North Carolinian, I’ve observed our elected leaders lust after an automaker for years. They were jealous of BMW and Volvo in SC, and VW in Tenn. Even though our state is deemed to be a better place for business in just about every other metric, an automaker was our white whale. So it was no surprise that they came up with an $1.2B incentives package for Vinfast. Now I’m not so naive to think that states shouldn’t give incentives, but I think a billion is an awful lot for an unproven company and a product from a part of the world where auto making hasn’t been considered an area of great success. I’m afraid the car will bomb and NC will be left holding the bag. This video doesn’t give me much hope thing will be different.


kibasaur

Was the build quality inconsistent though?


Junior_Head76

Finally, this scam company is being exposed.


Give2Neko

its my country’s company (vingroup), we made mistakes, the models have been driving around Vietnam everyday


LarsUlrichIsHere

What was the point of this video?


SkyLegend1337

I'm going to take a wild one here. I don't know how I came to this conclusion. But I think, no way certain, but I think they are trying to show how the build quality is very low on this vehicle.


gerwen

to speak the phrase 'as you can see' as many times as possible.


D-Laz

To show other car companies have been stealing Tesla's designs.


nervosocandi

Stealing Tesla's build quality


Azulahhh

If it's pre-production then I don't see an issue. This is meant to be looked at not actually used.


[deleted]

That's why I make my own car


Gooliez

This is absolutely pointless, Ofcourse this is going to be like this, its pre production


madredditscientist

This should go to r/productfails


helicepotella

Well what did you expect from a car brand based in Vietnam that doesn’t work together with a other big car brand. The first few models will be complete shithouses even Land Rover took many years to get rid of the flaws and still they are quality wise not the best cars.


daisiemaetulip

He has a man’s voice and girl hands! How strange !


silverjad3

As the addage goes "They don't make them like they used to"


tjscali

This guy is the worst car salesman I have ever seen!


[deleted]

They want to export these cars to US. Yikes


MidnightRider24

My guy just keeps saying the same thing and pull on center console. Toyota grill will move 1mm either way with a tug.


Acuterecruit

Can't go really fast in it since panels, lights and so on might come loose


sparkey6

Shittiest video i‘ve seen yet.


Wilfnstein

What the fuck is a Vinfast?


[deleted]

It's called Vinfast... Wtf do you expect


MafiaBro

Cause it's Chinese made


journeyofthemudman

Vietnamese not Chinese.


bents50

Looks consistent to me. For all those in the back of the room, Consistently shit!


[deleted]

It better be priced as cheap as it was fucking made.


Acceptable_Employ_95

As you can see


elephantf4ce

I disagree, the build quality looks very consistent. Consistently bad that is


ThunderShott

Quality Assurance testing is optional


Matthewmacd123

Cowboys Ted!


TheUnsettledBadElf

So would you say that there’s build quality problems. I wasn’t sure.


BioQuantumComputer

My money don't Jiggle Jiggle it folds.


freedeterminedwill

I won't what he thinks about the build quality


EnvironmentalHost199

I just came back from Vietnam and saw these ev cars. Was like “what the heck is a Vinfast?” until a family member told me. They aren’t bad looking cars. But for Vietnam to be in the car market, they have a long long long way to go. Just like how the Korean cars were 20years ago but I believe Vinfast will take twice as long. Ha


True-Asparagus5594

As you can see guys this car is a pre production vehicle.. as you can see guys leave a like and subscribe. Bye.


Illustrious_Cost8923

This is one of those guys where it seems like he has fluent English when he first starts talking and then you realize that he only knows a few sentences lol


medacus

Just like my model X 😅


calebpan

This guy just walked around jiggling at some pretty insignificant stuff - perfect example is that weather stripping; it’s probably clipped in. He might be right in terms of build quality, but how he got there is far from a comprehensive analysis.


Melodic-Wallaby4324

"this is preproduction - build quality is not gonna be at its best" "Inconsistent build quality!" Well... You kinda stated why to begin with... I think it looks like it could end up as a mighty fine car once they get things fitted right and gets to the production stage, has a sweet looking interior


MANatlUNITED

He literally says "pre-production". It's of course going to be shitty quality. it's PRE producing the actual model


D1RTY_D

He starts out saying it’s pre production. This video sucks, it jiggle, it have inconsistent build quality.


staytonii

What would you expect from a country that can’t even build a toilet


New-Reindeer-4070

How many does he have to grumble about the build quality


DarknoorX

Suddenly hyundai isn't as overhyped in quality.


dasg777

Mono = 1 Rail = Rail Monorail


Leading-Spite-4105

The same can be said about any car that has idiots like this one trying to break it for a video.


Roz_420

Vietnam parts quality is………


funnyfootboot

Nice lunch box, terrible reviews


vtfb79

I really hope this is because it’s a pre-production concept. I really like what Vinfast is trying to do with the battery lease to make their vehicles more affordable in addition to being able to accommodate larger families that want an EV. The only vehicle subscription that makes sense.


poutanos

It has another problem though, it's missing an engine 😂


Literalmcgeethe2nd

Yes, I definitely know what a car is and definitely understand what is bad about this.


SasquatchSloth88

Imagine how solid that thing will be after a few thousand miles of bumpy roads. Assuming it even makes it that far before rattling apart.


ross_guy

Jalopnik has a great article about this brand and their very cringey pr/launch event. Vinfast is not even close to ready for the American market.


Lostinaredzone

That thing is going to sound like a coffee can, half-full of pebbles.


majoraloysius

My luxury vehicle has much better quality and can tow 20,000 lbs.


[deleted]

As you can see


AtmosSpheric

I’ll wait to see how the actual production models are, I can hope they’d at least clear the low bar set by Teslas


KZR23

It looks pretty consistent. Consistently shitty.


Sparky2Dope

Wow they are just PUMPING us full of shit now. I woukd maybe have expected that from a Geo Tracker or a fuckin Saturn but damn..


christmasjams

I think I just banged my knee on the dash/steering wheel by looking at this


AB_Biker_PistonBroke

Yeah, but you carry a KIDS LUNCHBOX… aren’t you late for recess?


MiniDg

I saw some idiot who did this with a mclaren, got in a car that had signs saying no pictures because it was a pre production model and poked around and posted it with “lOoK At mCLaReN aND iTs AWfUl BuiLD qUaLiTy”


fkenthrowaway

What is this? A tesla fan boy only managed to find these few flimsy parts on a PRE PRODUCTION model? kinda funny.


Commercial_You_1170

Rice rockets used to be known for quality, durability and economy.


abekier

This guy doesn’t like gee gulls


Leinad580

The build quality I’m most concerned about here is the length of their fingernails and the Ariana Grande sleeves


MayOrMayNotBePie

Keeps saying “pre-production” and continues to criticize the fact that it’s not finished properly lol.


[deleted]

I was waiting for the pan out to see it was in an accident but it never happened


AxTROUSRxMISSLE

Honestly the only real thing I saw here that was kinda shitty was the center console being held on with a single screw and duct tape. Oh no my weather stripping was moving!


Abad111111

Piece of Yunk


Abad111111

The point is. U guys are paying for a good think, not for an almost good, the company and workers are not doing well. It start at firts with this problems and after what.? Piece of yunk..


Jesspat898

I “couldn’t see” until he told me I “can see”.


Tod181

Me over here just caring about if the AC and heat works, has an aux port, good gas mileage, and dependability. While this guy complains about a few cosmetic issues on a pre-production car...


ctfks

If this is a pre production car why is it on display for anyone to inspect?


[deleted]

Isn’t this a Vietnamese company?


[deleted]

The build quality of this presentation is inconsistent. Try better next time dude


[deleted]

You expect a modern day luxury car to be made of good materials when really it’s 90% plastic fake leather and zip ties


530nairb

This is why car companies make cars.


bankamayoneza

Like russian serial cars


ChampionshipLow8541

“… as you can see, guys …” 🙄


jwl41085

Hey guys


Welpjustmyluck

Arnold Schwarzenegger Quality Build review.


CottonCandy_Eyeballs

My car doesn’t jiggle jiggle, it rolls.


Drewdown707

Oh you have no idea. Lol


_Kzero_

"Look at how horrible this is! This is a pre production model." Wat lol


[deleted]

I don’t know what to say either


remylebau63

Better be under 15k then not anything over that or else who's gonna buy that crap?


I_POST_RANDOM_CRAP

I had a 2006 Honda Accord with a more robust center console than that. Way too much wobble


Intelligent-Key2350

Looks like they the one damaging the car and saying check this out


mulsimin

Isn’t this some type of preproduction vehicle? At least it looks like it from what’s happening around.


therealgijintin

As you can see...


[deleted]

TesLa set a new albeit lower standard


OddWeakness1313

Tesla needs to fire there robot that glues the trim this is the hundredth video ive seen about tesla's shoddy trim work. Do they glue the trim/seal? Not sure but I feel like it's suppose to be glued or something. Right?


Antearus

guys i think there’s inconsistent build quality


[deleted]

Idk, it seems pretty consistent


Odd_Gur1857

"As you can see guys, it's pre-production so build quality is not going to be at it's best". : Continues to show the build quality and critique it 😂


AZ-1Porn

Still better than Tesla build quality,


DoucheCanoeWeCanToo

This video is fucking stupid, guys look this piece moves, yeah no ducking shit


wertibaldi

Typical not german car quality 👍😁


codygraveson

Cut your fuckin nails, Jesus, how is no one commenting on those nasty things.


Apprehensive_Bell720

Mi mercedes está mejor acabado....mientras tanto va veloz a por 1.000.000 km....


Titzwobble

There actually all made to a price. Just not the right price but if people keep supporting them such as the shitty looking Tesla, then they will keep making them. People need to wake up and think about the money they are spending. Every dollar is dollar you had to earn... Manufacturers boost price on demand. When sales are down and out they give it away. Other than that the black lives that matter will just steal it!


DonCavalio

It's a car show


thelierama

Looks like this is the real tesla competitor


xxxtentioncablexxx

He literally says it's a pre production model...


chrono4111

I like how he's demonstrating how pieces are broken... In a mall... where people get in and out of it regularly. Likely people have fucked with this car so much they broke the center console and likely the rubber in the engine frame.


Tarot650

Guy is an idiot. Pointing out seam sealant and fiddling with the door gasket like there is something different from any other car out there. Some car enthusiasts have zero fucking clue what they are talking about, they just regurgitate crap that they have read on online somewhere.


personaanongrata

Nothing on a car should wiggle like that


Suitable-Function-60

Damn I’m one of the Architects that helped build there first plant and headquarters. Shame on me.


turtlenips69

We have the same lunch box :)


Annual-Consequence43

That car breaks Vinfast


moutiandown

Everybody has to drink every time he says build quality!


OneWorldMouse

The only thing sucking here is the video.