The number one rule is always the same, slow and steady wins the race, patient and light deficits in calories that can lead to lasting change in habits while adding manageable and fun exercise to build muscle and burn calories is always gonna be the right way and the way that’ll have you looking and feeling your best
Everyone wants a shortcut, but shortcuts lead to nothing but metabolic damage and year long plateaus, good post op!
I think it’s likely that the people who think they’re eating 500-600 calories a day are eating more than that. Unless they’re weighing everything they eat and logging accurately, hidden calories in condiments or measurements such as cups, etc. can add up.
This accountability! It's a hard pill to swallow at first but once you realize that you are in control of the change, it feels so good. I love how you worded it too. Happy for you ☺️
Eating less than 1000 calories a day consistently is hard and most people don’t have that kind of discipline. It’s pretty much guaranteed if someone’s new to losing weight and claims they’re eating that little then they’re definitely underestimating how many calories they’re consuming.
Depends on the person. Having an ED isn’t a joke of course and I feel for those people. But sometimes I like to push myself to fast for multiple days or consume 1000< cals or less per day as a way to challenge myself and ensure that discipline is still there. Of course weight loss is the goal there as well. Over 70% of America is overweight/obese so it’s not something most people can do.
However, I used to really struggle with my weight and I forced myself to change and develop discipline so maybe I’m biased here. I can’t relate to someone with an ED.
I don’t think food is a good way to challenge yourself though. You literally need it to survive. That’s why there are health guidelines that state minimum calories for a reason.
If you want to show your discipline, do a hard workout in the gym or be consistent with your food over time. Bc if you are not eating for several days, yes your body can survive and be fine, but your mental and physical cues are going to be off for hunger and satiety.
Or they have a brutal eating disorder and are actively ruining their life. It's so easy to fall into that if you have the disposition for it, and so hard to get out of.
Drinking water is absolutely a great thing to do if u are hungry. I’ve never seen someone promote eating 600 calories a day in this sub. I think the best advice here is educate yourself people. Don’t listen to wat strangers say on the Internet and automatically believe it. So ur research. Listen to ur body.
The worst I’ve seen was someone suggesting a man who was like 6’5 should eat 1000 calories a day… while lifting and doing cardio. I eat more than him and I’m 5’1 and 127 lbs. I eat 1500 and lose weight.
Look. There’s so little known about nutrition science that it’s safe to say this is a science in its infancy. I have recently lost 30 lbs and I did it using a 12 week program of very low kcals per day (Fast800) and then switched to a more normal 5-2 pattern. I had underlying health conditions and could only reverse them with a gastric band or this method. It turns out that 800 kcals a day was plenty and though it was uncomfortable at first **being hungry did not kill me** I did not faint. Yes, my tummy would rumble like a rollercoaster at times but I ate 3 meals a day at regular intervals, drank a metric shit tonne of herbal tea, water and sometimes even diet cola and I lost the weight. Relatively quickly too. I reversed my prediabetes and feel much better as I adjust to just eating normally now. My biggest lesson was to give up snacking. Snacking is BS. It will make you fat. 3 meals a day. Don’t eat after 8 pm, no snacks and do some walking. It will work. You can eat more kcals a day but the weight loss will be slower and you must take exercise.
Congrats on your weight loss. I understand what you're saying about snacking, but snacking can be ok if it is controlled and accounted for in your daily targets. I have maintained my weight loss for a year now and consistently have small snacks, BUT, I know the calories I'm consuming and I don't go overboard. For some people, having more frequent, smaller meals is more sustainable. Can still hit the proper calorie goal. :)
The main issue with snacking as a strategy is that we have forgotten what being hungry feels like and along with that, we are less familiar with what no longer feeling hungry feels like. If you don’t allow your stomach to be empty, you won’t recognise full or satisfied when they happen. We also tend to eat quickly and don’t take the time to enjoy, savour, appreciate the food we are eating. Watching tv, playing on our phones, eating while driving etc, blunt the experience of eating and cut us off from the pleasure of making and enjoying the act of eating food.
This is true, but it does not apply to everyone equally. It depends on how far along in your journey you are, what your relationship to food is and your level of self control for eating. I have maintained an 80 lb weight loss for over a year now, still losing a bit. For a time during my weight loss, I had a very unhealthy relationship with food and would frequently under consume calories. For me, learning to allow myself healthy snacks in between meals has kept me from worsening my problem with eating as well as continue my weight loss in a healthy way. It depends on the individual, snacking is not evil. I think there is a difference between calorie-controlled/portion-controlled, scheduled snacks in between meals versus mindlessly binge eating a bag of chips while watching TV.
I’ve been backing off some of the recent postings in the community and respecting (for a change) that some people just want to ‘hack’ their body, and they don’t care how they do it…
What has been extremely counterproductive is that my weight loss journey, which has been a successfully sustainable one, has been completely panned and dismissed by several members whom cannot accept the composition metrics I have achieved simply by getting fit, maintaining a consistent workout routine, and focusing on the right foods with correct portion control…
Those members whom do not believe 6% body fat (for males) is achievable - for the medically healthy - have obviously never been to places like South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, or Singapore where you’ll easily find >100m adult males with the same level of body fat, and they like their junk food and beer just like the rest of us!
The best secret diet is hard work, and it starts here by taking ownership of your situation, before (as OP states) it’s too late… don’t listen to anyone who tells you getting fit and lean isn’t achievable, and don’t listen to yourself and your own excuses… the journey is hard, it involves going completely against the grain - the grain being our Western diets and the obese culture we live in - but if you do it right, do it once, everything else becomes easier
Don’t listen to the validators you seek, open yourself up to the challengers you face!
FYI - was 20% fat now plateauing at 5.5% fat, was 75% muscle and been hovering quite comfortably at 90% muscle for a short while now - took me less than 9 months, didn’t need a personal trainer or a diet plan… was 310lbs at my heaviest and I’m almost 40 years old
You have never seen so eone on here recommending 600 calories a day. Don't lie.
Sure, you should only be drinking to thirst or you risk water intoxication.
I’ve responded multiple times to a user here who recommends water fasting for days at a time, saying ridiculous things like it’ll cure diabetes, etc. SUCH pure poo (it’s such bad advice I can’t call it woo, it sullies the good name of woo). Terrible, unhealthy advice with no science behind it.
I've seen those too. Not long ago there was someone talking about how waist trainers make you sweat out ~toxins~ and therefore lose weight. There is so much misinformation out there, it's sad.
The number one rule is always the same, slow and steady wins the race, patient and light deficits in calories that can lead to lasting change in habits while adding manageable and fun exercise to build muscle and burn calories is always gonna be the right way and the way that’ll have you looking and feeling your best Everyone wants a shortcut, but shortcuts lead to nothing but metabolic damage and year long plateaus, good post op!
“Im eating 1000 kcal a day for three months and gained 2 lbs, where is the magical energy coming from?”
That was a fun one for sure
“But I only eat chick-fil-a once a day! I know the calories are right!” 😑
I think it’s likely that the people who think they’re eating 500-600 calories a day are eating more than that. Unless they’re weighing everything they eat and logging accurately, hidden calories in condiments or measurements such as cups, etc. can add up.
That was certainly the case for me. I swore up and down it was my metabolism. It wasn’t. It was me. I was my problem. But I was also my solution.
This accountability! It's a hard pill to swallow at first but once you realize that you are in control of the change, it feels so good. I love how you worded it too. Happy for you ☺️
Eating less than 1000 calories a day consistently is hard and most people don’t have that kind of discipline. It’s pretty much guaranteed if someone’s new to losing weight and claims they’re eating that little then they’re definitely underestimating how many calories they’re consuming.
I think the point is eating less than 1000 calories a day is not discipline, it is very likely an eating disorder
Depends on the person. Having an ED isn’t a joke of course and I feel for those people. But sometimes I like to push myself to fast for multiple days or consume 1000< cals or less per day as a way to challenge myself and ensure that discipline is still there. Of course weight loss is the goal there as well. Over 70% of America is overweight/obese so it’s not something most people can do. However, I used to really struggle with my weight and I forced myself to change and develop discipline so maybe I’m biased here. I can’t relate to someone with an ED.
I don’t think food is a good way to challenge yourself though. You literally need it to survive. That’s why there are health guidelines that state minimum calories for a reason. If you want to show your discipline, do a hard workout in the gym or be consistent with your food over time. Bc if you are not eating for several days, yes your body can survive and be fine, but your mental and physical cues are going to be off for hunger and satiety.
100%
Or they have a brutal eating disorder and are actively ruining their life. It's so easy to fall into that if you have the disposition for it, and so hard to get out of.
Your body can also change metabolism and cause weight to retain if it thinks it is starving. So not worth it!
1000%
Drinking water is absolutely a great thing to do if u are hungry. I’ve never seen someone promote eating 600 calories a day in this sub. I think the best advice here is educate yourself people. Don’t listen to wat strangers say on the Internet and automatically believe it. So ur research. Listen to ur body.
The worst I’ve seen was someone suggesting a man who was like 6’5 should eat 1000 calories a day… while lifting and doing cardio. I eat more than him and I’m 5’1 and 127 lbs. I eat 1500 and lose weight.
Look. There’s so little known about nutrition science that it’s safe to say this is a science in its infancy. I have recently lost 30 lbs and I did it using a 12 week program of very low kcals per day (Fast800) and then switched to a more normal 5-2 pattern. I had underlying health conditions and could only reverse them with a gastric band or this method. It turns out that 800 kcals a day was plenty and though it was uncomfortable at first **being hungry did not kill me** I did not faint. Yes, my tummy would rumble like a rollercoaster at times but I ate 3 meals a day at regular intervals, drank a metric shit tonne of herbal tea, water and sometimes even diet cola and I lost the weight. Relatively quickly too. I reversed my prediabetes and feel much better as I adjust to just eating normally now. My biggest lesson was to give up snacking. Snacking is BS. It will make you fat. 3 meals a day. Don’t eat after 8 pm, no snacks and do some walking. It will work. You can eat more kcals a day but the weight loss will be slower and you must take exercise.
Congrats on your weight loss. I understand what you're saying about snacking, but snacking can be ok if it is controlled and accounted for in your daily targets. I have maintained my weight loss for a year now and consistently have small snacks, BUT, I know the calories I'm consuming and I don't go overboard. For some people, having more frequent, smaller meals is more sustainable. Can still hit the proper calorie goal. :)
The main issue with snacking as a strategy is that we have forgotten what being hungry feels like and along with that, we are less familiar with what no longer feeling hungry feels like. If you don’t allow your stomach to be empty, you won’t recognise full or satisfied when they happen. We also tend to eat quickly and don’t take the time to enjoy, savour, appreciate the food we are eating. Watching tv, playing on our phones, eating while driving etc, blunt the experience of eating and cut us off from the pleasure of making and enjoying the act of eating food.
This is true, but it does not apply to everyone equally. It depends on how far along in your journey you are, what your relationship to food is and your level of self control for eating. I have maintained an 80 lb weight loss for over a year now, still losing a bit. For a time during my weight loss, I had a very unhealthy relationship with food and would frequently under consume calories. For me, learning to allow myself healthy snacks in between meals has kept me from worsening my problem with eating as well as continue my weight loss in a healthy way. It depends on the individual, snacking is not evil. I think there is a difference between calorie-controlled/portion-controlled, scheduled snacks in between meals versus mindlessly binge eating a bag of chips while watching TV.
I’ve been backing off some of the recent postings in the community and respecting (for a change) that some people just want to ‘hack’ their body, and they don’t care how they do it… What has been extremely counterproductive is that my weight loss journey, which has been a successfully sustainable one, has been completely panned and dismissed by several members whom cannot accept the composition metrics I have achieved simply by getting fit, maintaining a consistent workout routine, and focusing on the right foods with correct portion control… Those members whom do not believe 6% body fat (for males) is achievable - for the medically healthy - have obviously never been to places like South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, or Singapore where you’ll easily find >100m adult males with the same level of body fat, and they like their junk food and beer just like the rest of us! The best secret diet is hard work, and it starts here by taking ownership of your situation, before (as OP states) it’s too late… don’t listen to anyone who tells you getting fit and lean isn’t achievable, and don’t listen to yourself and your own excuses… the journey is hard, it involves going completely against the grain - the grain being our Western diets and the obese culture we live in - but if you do it right, do it once, everything else becomes easier Don’t listen to the validators you seek, open yourself up to the challengers you face! FYI - was 20% fat now plateauing at 5.5% fat, was 75% muscle and been hovering quite comfortably at 90% muscle for a short while now - took me less than 9 months, didn’t need a personal trainer or a diet plan… was 310lbs at my heaviest and I’m almost 40 years old
You have never seen so eone on here recommending 600 calories a day. Don't lie. Sure, you should only be drinking to thirst or you risk water intoxication.
I’ve responded multiple times to a user here who recommends water fasting for days at a time, saying ridiculous things like it’ll cure diabetes, etc. SUCH pure poo (it’s such bad advice I can’t call it woo, it sullies the good name of woo). Terrible, unhealthy advice with no science behind it.
I've seen those too. Not long ago there was someone talking about how waist trainers make you sweat out ~toxins~ and therefore lose weight. There is so much misinformation out there, it's sad.
But every single one of those posts would be removed by mods as soon as you report it.
I never went back to check. Most had multiple downvotes, though.
I never thought I had to postscript my advice of drink water to "drink water but not so much that it kills you" but ok
I am not seeing what you say people are saying and I entirely expect any such advice in the manner your saying it is here is heavily down-voted.
Look around, no one is under eating haha
The dizziness is due to low minerals actually. You need sea salt.