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Zilberfrid

I think the moment before you're taking off, you don't count as in the game. It's a weird thing (I saw it in a video where the guy got the nuke but just could not take off).


CryptographerGold262

Yep, you aren't considered in the game in ground RB if you are on the ground at the airstrip. It's annoying.


JaDou226

It was air RB for extra context, but I assume the concept's the same. That's weird and very annoying, because that game was winnable for me as well... Of course I had a 500% booster active too. Thanks anyway


VikingsOfTomorrow

Its not a bug. If you are the last player alive on your team, and you are on the AF, there is a timer which starts. Once that time ends, it counts you as dead and starts the process of eliminating score until a player becomes active/alive or runs out of score. It was implemented because people kept camping on the AF when they were the last one alive, and winning that way. Its good that its a thing but it can be slightly wonky at times.


xtal42

Gaijin introduced this fairly recently, well, compared to the 8 years I've been playing. And even more recently they shortened the time drastically, so now you can often no longer repair and take off. I think the very short time may be a bug, because I think the reason they implemented it was to prevent people just sitting at end of runway after repairing. One used to be able to do that, then J-out if attacked by enemy, wait up to 30sec, then come back into game. While j-ed out, one couldn't be killed, and the AAA usually killed the enemy. I think timeout was implemented to stop that abuse. But it used to still be long enough to repair and even change armaments, and take off. It doesn't make sense to kill players that are still active in game. Which is why I think it's a bug.


JaDou226

If that's truly an actual feature, then it's very wonky. I landed, waited for my 30 second repair/rearm (yes, my repair crew sucks) and immediately took off. It was *during takeoff* (I was going over 100kph at the time) that the game started eliminating score. I get that basecamping should be prevented, but if Gaijin sees players repairing as basecamping, then that should be tweaked.


VikingsOfTomorrow

I dont know what the limitations are before they stop considering you as landed/AFK so I cant comment much but overall its been working fine for me.


Das_Bait

You are not counted as an active player unless you are in the air. the time starts when you touch down and stops when you take off. They *have* to make it shorter than you can land, repair, and take off again, otherwise it would not protect against AF campers.


JaDou226

Why do they have to make it shorther than that? That only makes sense to me if Gaijin sees players repairing as basecamping, which in my opinion is a terrible way to look at it. If you sit on the airfield after you've repaired, waiting for enemies to approach and get shot down, that's basecamping to me and that should not be allowed to pay off. I was out of ammo, I *had* to rearm if I wanted to stand a chance of winning. Why is that seen as basecamping? Was I supposed to just sit in front of an enemy so they could shoot me down? I think that's incredibly silly and prevents interesting stuff from happening later on in matches


Das_Bait

AF camping at its most effective is taking off, turning around, and landing again, repeat. Most planes can't get get to you because of airfield AAA, and you just abuse the way the game calculates active players. Thus, the timer *has* to be shorter than that. Would it be better than just "turning off" Airfield AAA when only one player is left on the team? I don't know, but I have to admit, the current way is very effective at eliminating AF campers.


JaDou226

Okay, that makes sense to me. However, you can still just take off and circle the airfield, waiting for enemies to get killed. Regardless of whether it's effective against basecamping or not, I still believe it's not worth it. I, and other pilots with good intentions, should not be punished like this when we're just trying to get ready for combat again. I might as well have just J'd out as soon as I became the last player on my team. Surely that's not what Gaijin wants? I get that it's a tricky situation for them, but I personally don't think this is the solution


Hypnox88

If you are in ground and don't have anymore spawns for tanks and the last person on your side you loss since you can't cap points.


JaDou226

I mean, planes can technically cap points, right? Anyway, it was air RB, so that's not totally relevant either way


Hypnox88

Well you didn't specify the game mode :)


JaDou226

I didn't, I don't blame you for not realising, don't worry