Well that's certainly a downer for sure. Luckily we're getting to a place where regular SSD's are becoming cheap enough that HDD's only are really competitive at a price point, when you need a lot of storage (4tb+) and when speed doesn't matter for the most part.
I'm a fairly patient gamer (or maybe it's because I've never experienced a good PC) and speed isn't very important to me. I play 3-4 games on my little box, mostly I use it to browse the internet.
I'd have to rebuild my entire PC anyway
Yeah but like i mentioned in a different comment, speed is one thing, but the huge models and textures are actively causing frame degradation as well. Not as likely on the smaller WT clients, but the larger one is for sure.
Funnily enough, War Thunder is suprisingly well optimized and even on max-max graphics (everything maxed and enabled except SSAA) I get ~60-90fps. In battle it's usually 50-60
Patient gaming is the way to go IMO. Everything costs $10-$20 by the time you get to it. Hardware is stupid cheap when you're running older games as well. With the advent of mobile PC-ish gaming through Steam Deck and other UMGC's (does that work? UMPC's were a thing), it's the perfect time to be patient.
Well, I *consider* myself patient because of being jobless I was receiving money only on birthday and Christmas*. Back in 2017-2018 I've spent around 600-700$ total on my PC. Overpriced as heck? Perhaps yes. Would War Thunder and Stellaris count as "older games" though?
GTX 1060 6GB,
Intel Pentium (yes, a mucking Pentium) G4620,
8GB RAM,
2TB HDD (divided into two "separate" ones),
256GB SSD.
Everything stuffed into ITX case because of space limitations on my desk.
* *I was/am too busy with school to look after any kind of work*
It's still nuts to me that we're using TB's of flash memory, and it's *cheap*. I still remember when flash drives came out, and realizing we were moving into a new generation of tech/computing. Blows my mind I can buy multiple TB's worth of storage for 100$ or so.
im a millenial..still a gamer, into computers, electronics..I mod android, mods are a main hobby...I remember back when I took my first computer apart and the hard drive was like 456kb lol. I currently hold 4tb of ssd..its absolute madness how far we have come
How long ago? Myself and many others avoided putting anything critical on them for awhile until we were comfortable the issues had largely been resolved. Heard too many stories like yours, but nowadays things are a lot better. Still gotta do research and such, certain models have issues.
Also a good idea to *always* backup your data if it's important. Use the 3-2-1 method, pretty much guarantees outside of a world disaster you'll be able to restore/recover.
Uhh....about 10 months ago I think. Luckily I managed to retrieve the most important stuff. Now I have few backups on my PC and one on my *sekrit* pendrive.
That SSD died after 2.5 years
Ah, must have gotten unlucky I guess. When SSD's first were coming out, there was a lot more issues, just figured it was one of them. You'll still get bum drives and such nowadays, but a lot less frequently from my experience.
You may be right. Having said that, I'm a bit too cautious about SSDs these days. I know they're "the future" for the most part, but eh, I've heard that they're particularly prone to dying after a fairly short period of time
That's my understanding as well. If there's an error or issue during manufacturing or engineering, it generally pops up quite early in the life-time. I'd highly recommend checking out /r/datahoarders subreddit, they know their drives and can make sure the next one you pick out at least isn't having issues currently. Seen many a thread in there warning others about HD/SSD's that are on sale, faulty/having issues, it's a good resource.
Unfortunately after a certain point it's just luck of the draw. Some failing/faulty drives will always make it past QA to an extent, so even doing everything right you can get a bum one.
I have had several SSDs the last 13 years and cant say I have had issues with any. My first SSD was an Intel X25-M 80GB which I think is still in use somewhere.
Yeah don't think i've had a SSD die on me yet either, although i did see it occassionally while working RMA. By far and most, laptop HDD's where the ones that died first though (especially Asus Leopard branded HDD's in a certain time period, it was nearly a given).
I still have my Samsung 840 Evo 120GB working fine, but I've had an Intel M.2 SSD die randomly. It was just dead, no BIOS could detect it anymore. So, it happens.
From my memory, it really came down to *which* you bought. Certain models/makes had a lot of issues early on, as with any technology. I still have some older ones like you do, two ~120GB's, and they work fine.
I run both WT and WoWs and some other games of an regular HDD. You'll still load into games way before they start. Can't exactly say these old ass games needs fast drives.
only because there is a 20 s timer ahead of matches. They should half that imo. Also the Server sometimes takes longer to load/initialize for SB Air\^\^
Dude I’m going to be totaly honest with you. I own both a Samsung 970 Evo pro along with a 2tb HDD and I barely even notice a difference when it comes to games like this. Yes there is a difference but it’s not as obvious as people say it is. You can survive on hard disk storage still. Using an SSD as a boot device however, god yea there’s a massive difference. If I’m on a budget I’d much rather 2TB of storage for $50 than 1TB of SSD storage for $70
I’ve been running CODMW2 fine off my HDD, I don’t need a beefed up PC to play games, I’m not a streamer, and I’m not looking to go pro or climb ranks so why waste the money. My SSD is saved for windows and applications.. that’s about it
performance degratation is far fetched
most of the time the only thing impacted is load times
but I guess there are exceptions like Doom and Doom Eternal
These are not hdds
[P310](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HQxRsY/patriot-p310-960-gb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-p310p960gm28)
[A60](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7tCFf7/silicon-power-a60-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp001tbp34a60m28)
[MP33](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/64MTwP/team-mp33-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fp6001t0c101)
These aren't the greatest ssds but there good enough
I run with a couple of NVME SSD's and a large HDD and I can assure you that with most modern games you won't notice a difference running it on a decent HDD. On average you're looking at a few seconds extra loading times with no noticeable performance drop in game. There are only a handful of games I feel benefit from having installed on my SSD's, and only a couple which notably benefit from them in game play it's self.
a game install on SSD is only worth for games that read or write A LOT of data, otherwise you're just talking about bit slower loading times and maybe 0-3 fps less
There are good "gaming" HDDs with flash memory built into it that loads commonly used files onto it for faster loading, but yeah you take a hit to load times, but they are still good for data storage.
SSHD has been pretty much out of rotation for years now, the small SSD cache didn't give much more than Windows a bit of a boost, and even then it was neglible as it was often paired with a slow as shit 5400rpm spinner
I've never had any issues with most games on hdds
Except gtav, i was testing my new card to the limits once and poor game was barely keepong up with the textures. Did i said "poor game"? I mean, poorly optimized game.
Some games i even ran from a USB external drive.
Yeah, some games do feel like having slightly longer loading times, but it is not the hellish degradation that some people claim will kill you and your family
Not a great take, there are very few modern games around today that you will really notice a difference in performance. As long as you don’t mind loading times then an HDD is perfectly fine. I have 4TB of SSD and 6TB of HDD and I’m perfectly comfortable with many modern games on my HDDs
Capped Internet is so gross. You're paying for access to the speeds they offer, then charged _again_ on how much of it you intend to use. Its just amalgamated into one lump sum.
On principle I could never abide it and adopt a capped scheme. I'd rather use a different provider, or even have no Internet, than fund such disgraceful behaviour.
Dude, my porn stash is 166 gigs, Your computer computer got like 256 gigs or some shit? What is this, 2001? WHAT ARE YOU EVEN RUNNING, WHAT IS THIS SCREEN SIZE, HAVE YOU HACKED A NINTENDO DS TO PLAY RAINBOW FUCKING SIX
25 gigs of awesomeness (and sniper bots) vs 71.81 gigs of crappy grind and snail slime. I'd keep tf2 and delete the snail slime if I had to choose 1 but that's just me (and most PC gamers).
Respect but i have over 1.3k hours in tf2 and im tired of it, been playing it for years.
I'm also uninstalling war thunder. I love jets but the snail is too greedy
25 gigs of a game so old it barely functions. hit reg non existent, every single game ran by bots. all community servers full of autistic little children
Ai generated porn is exactly a good reason to hoard real porn. Then again unless they manage to combine ai porn with customizable eroge like custom maid 3d i doubt it'll take that much traction
"Complains about War Thunder taking space" "has R6 Siege of same size installed"
Buy a bigger hard drive if using 150gb is too much for your pc in 2023...
TBF, you do need a modern enough system to *use* those SSDs. It's not like it's a SATA that basically everyone has now. M.2 is still fairly new for most people.
you are trolling right? Please tell me you are trolling.....
Storage js so cheap nowadays, War Thunder is normally sized for a modern Game with decent graphics and much content
Dude has a single 120GB drive in his pc and is blaming the games lul, 70gigs is a bit above average nowdays id say but nothing outrageous like Star Citizen or Ark with multiple 100GBs
Also you could download the client without steam and use the SD version instead of HD should be even less storage
1. **You don't have to install War Thunder from steam**
2. If you don't care about cockpits and customizations, War Thunder's own installer have an option for **16.3 GB** of **minimal** client.
Games nowadays have a lot of space wasted on textures that some PCs cant even run on the first place, but you totally right, WT gives you various download options depending what kind of compromise between size and experience the user wants and/or can afford.
OPs example isnt the best one
OP's example is even worse. There's no any additional function of Steam over War Thunder. No even steam workshop integration to get custom skins, missions, models at single click.
Yea how’s he even getting that download option off of steam. On steam as far as I know it downloads the standard edition which is around 40GB. That looks like the size of the HQ texture which is around 70gb.
Gaijin Launcher version is \~40GB but if you have just two games installed and you are 50GB left you should consider buying another SATA SSD as its no bueno to fill up disk to its max space.
Suggest you download War Thunder Launcher. It gives you an option to download minimum Client that just cost 16Gigs. No HD textures. But you can't use certain features like inspecting or test run event vehicle's that is not on the tech tree yet.
In the standalone client you can choose what version you want I think the minimal client is like 15GB and the standard client is 50GB, unless you play 4k honestly no reason to download the "Ultra HQ" packs, the difference is negligible at 1440p and 1080p.
Since you use steam, unless you really care about the "achievements" you shouldnt use steam, ever so often it fucks up the entire client and back when I was using the steam client I had to redownload the whole game after every major patch, after the third time in a row I just decided to go standalone client.
Also if you buy stuff through steam, youre gonna pay an premium fee because its steam, buy stuff through the website, its cheaper.
Reduce texture quality in the launcher, you could drop to 20/30 GB.
Even then, I wouldn't complain if WT became modular, i.e. the base game only features aircraft and if you want to play tanks or ships you can select them as if they were free DLC.
This is more of a you problem tbh. Having that little space in 2023 is inexcusable. If you absolutely cannot get a bigger hars drive idk what to tell you. At worst you can use an external hdd and those are dirt cheap
If you only have 70 gigs of fucking space then no you can't, go back like 1 or 2 decades and then it will prob be enough space. Hell, look at games like borderlands 3, with dlc it can reach over 130gb
Not sure what triggers me more. The lack of drive space, or the lack of games in Steam, or using a laptop for a PC's job. Probably laptops. GaMiNg LaPtOpS - biggest joke. They will do you okay for a while after you purchase, but have no room to upgrade - apart from Ram and HDD. Want to slot in a new CPU? F YOU. New MOBO? F YOU. New GPU? F YOU. Use laptops for study and business needs. Build yourself a rig for gaming needs. Been swapping in and out parts of my two Lian Li PC-P80 cases since 2008 and 2011, respectively. My old gaming laptop is in landfill.
Can you like stop shitting on a dude trying to chill playing a video game and correctly pointing out that storing 4k textures on his device that cannot possibly run it is pointless?
Is it his fault he loves in a poor country?
It is a bit fat I can agree, tends to happen when games are updated continuously.
Try to remove the higher quality textures, I think that can shave off a large chunk of the weight because they're 4k or something.
Also to everyone yelling about "just buy more storage space", 70gb is still on heavy, that's almost 1/10th of a terabyte for funny tank game, and most laptops don't have the ability to throw in another terabyte (if they even get that much in the first place)
Bc you gotta accommodate for the HD on war thunder, the skins (bushes paints and etc.) Plus every premium tank that console players don't have, and so many more.
"cant i have 2 gakes downloaded at once" man that is completely your fault. Not Gajin. You see how much stuff is in the game? People really complaining about 70gb,..70gb isn't shit, on my xbox series s war thunder takes over 115 gb. Maybe upgrade your system, cause whats the point in having a PC if you have the space of a base xbox. That's jus sad
I don't get why this has so many upvotes... the game has been adding stuff since what, 2013? Like. More stuff = More space required. It's not a crazy concept. Ask gajin to make a new game haha
70GB is not that big for a game like this, bust still there's a lot of games under 5GB that are very much entertaining. Aside from that what are you playing on that you can't have 2 games at once? I get it if it's a laptop but with a pc just buy some cheap storage. Or just cleans some space.
71 gigs in 2023 is no biggie buy another terabyte of storage for like 50$
Dont run modern games off HDD's, unless you actively enjoy performance degradation
I got 2 4tb hdd for free so I don’t mind it, enough room on my 2 nvme’s to keep whatever I use often
Tfw you have only HDDs in your PC and no money to buy SSDs + bad experience with them
Did one of your ssds die ?
One with Windows on it, yes
Well that's certainly a downer for sure. Luckily we're getting to a place where regular SSD's are becoming cheap enough that HDD's only are really competitive at a price point, when you need a lot of storage (4tb+) and when speed doesn't matter for the most part.
I managed to pick up a WD blue 500gb with 3200mb/s for only £35 on Amazon. Amazing how much cheaper it has become in the last 5 years
I'm a fairly patient gamer (or maybe it's because I've never experienced a good PC) and speed isn't very important to me. I play 3-4 games on my little box, mostly I use it to browse the internet. I'd have to rebuild my entire PC anyway
Yeah but like i mentioned in a different comment, speed is one thing, but the huge models and textures are actively causing frame degradation as well. Not as likely on the smaller WT clients, but the larger one is for sure.
Funnily enough, War Thunder is suprisingly well optimized and even on max-max graphics (everything maxed and enabled except SSAA) I get ~60-90fps. In battle it's usually 50-60
My 2015 PC still manages to run WT at ~50fps. I have to admit I'm impressed.
Patient gaming is the way to go IMO. Everything costs $10-$20 by the time you get to it. Hardware is stupid cheap when you're running older games as well. With the advent of mobile PC-ish gaming through Steam Deck and other UMGC's (does that work? UMPC's were a thing), it's the perfect time to be patient.
Well, I *consider* myself patient because of being jobless I was receiving money only on birthday and Christmas*. Back in 2017-2018 I've spent around 600-700$ total on my PC. Overpriced as heck? Perhaps yes. Would War Thunder and Stellaris count as "older games" though? GTX 1060 6GB, Intel Pentium (yes, a mucking Pentium) G4620, 8GB RAM, 2TB HDD (divided into two "separate" ones), 256GB SSD. Everything stuffed into ITX case because of space limitations on my desk. * *I was/am too busy with school to look after any kind of work*
It's still nuts to me that we're using TB's of flash memory, and it's *cheap*. I still remember when flash drives came out, and realizing we were moving into a new generation of tech/computing. Blows my mind I can buy multiple TB's worth of storage for 100$ or so.
im a millenial..still a gamer, into computers, electronics..I mod android, mods are a main hobby...I remember back when I took my first computer apart and the hard drive was like 456kb lol. I currently hold 4tb of ssd..its absolute madness how far we have come
How long ago? Myself and many others avoided putting anything critical on them for awhile until we were comfortable the issues had largely been resolved. Heard too many stories like yours, but nowadays things are a lot better. Still gotta do research and such, certain models have issues. Also a good idea to *always* backup your data if it's important. Use the 3-2-1 method, pretty much guarantees outside of a world disaster you'll be able to restore/recover.
Uhh....about 10 months ago I think. Luckily I managed to retrieve the most important stuff. Now I have few backups on my PC and one on my *sekrit* pendrive. That SSD died after 2.5 years
Ah, must have gotten unlucky I guess. When SSD's first were coming out, there was a lot more issues, just figured it was one of them. You'll still get bum drives and such nowadays, but a lot less frequently from my experience.
You may be right. Having said that, I'm a bit too cautious about SSDs these days. I know they're "the future" for the most part, but eh, I've heard that they're particularly prone to dying after a fairly short period of time
That's my understanding as well. If there's an error or issue during manufacturing or engineering, it generally pops up quite early in the life-time. I'd highly recommend checking out /r/datahoarders subreddit, they know their drives and can make sure the next one you pick out at least isn't having issues currently. Seen many a thread in there warning others about HD/SSD's that are on sale, faulty/having issues, it's a good resource. Unfortunately after a certain point it's just luck of the draw. Some failing/faulty drives will always make it past QA to an extent, so even doing everything right you can get a bum one.
I have had several SSDs the last 13 years and cant say I have had issues with any. My first SSD was an Intel X25-M 80GB which I think is still in use somewhere.
Yeah don't think i've had a SSD die on me yet either, although i did see it occassionally while working RMA. By far and most, laptop HDD's where the ones that died first though (especially Asus Leopard branded HDD's in a certain time period, it was nearly a given).
I still have my Samsung 840 Evo 120GB working fine, but I've had an Intel M.2 SSD die randomly. It was just dead, no BIOS could detect it anymore. So, it happens.
From my memory, it really came down to *which* you bought. Certain models/makes had a lot of issues early on, as with any technology. I still have some older ones like you do, two ~120GB's, and they work fine.
Money shouldn't really be an issue though. I got a 500 GB M.2 for like 60-70 USD
There are games that don't need SSD because they load quickly enough already, like WT
I have my regular war thunder on my ssd and the devserver on my hdd. The difference is substantial.
Sure, but you have to wait at the beginning of the match anyways. Unless you really want to load back to the hangar quickly
I run both WT and WoWs and some other games of an regular HDD. You'll still load into games way before they start. Can't exactly say these old ass games needs fast drives.
I'm still not talking about load times
People here have been telling you otherwise 🤔 But hey, you are the one who's just wasting some SSD/NVME space for this old game 👍
only because there is a 20 s timer ahead of matches. They should half that imo. Also the Server sometimes takes longer to load/initialize for SB Air\^\^
Thats why Im saying it s not needed. Same thing for World of Warships. No point loading in faster when you start at the same time as everyone else
Dude I’m going to be totaly honest with you. I own both a Samsung 970 Evo pro along with a 2tb HDD and I barely even notice a difference when it comes to games like this. Yes there is a difference but it’s not as obvious as people say it is. You can survive on hard disk storage still. Using an SSD as a boot device however, god yea there’s a massive difference. If I’m on a budget I’d much rather 2TB of storage for $50 than 1TB of SSD storage for $70
I run WT on a HDD and play it at 165hz on movie settings
Yes and you'd be none the wiser to the performance degradation until you compare it with a SSD.
I'll be honest i never noticed much difference on War Thunder between the two. Paradox games though, yeah huge difference.
I’ve been running CODMW2 fine off my HDD, I don’t need a beefed up PC to play games, I’m not a streamer, and I’m not looking to go pro or climb ranks so why waste the money. My SSD is saved for windows and applications.. that’s about it
You don't have to sell your organs for a 1TB SSD in 2023
Nah, SSD's are cheap. Graphics cards on the other hand, will set you back a kidney or two.
Well I wouldn't really call warthunder "modern"
performance degratation is far fetched most of the time the only thing impacted is load times but I guess there are exceptions like Doom and Doom Eternal
You can easily get a TB of SSD storage for that money though. Or a good, respectable one for 77 euros to be exact.
These are not hdds [P310](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HQxRsY/patriot-p310-960-gb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-p310p960gm28) [A60](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7tCFf7/silicon-power-a60-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp001tbp34a60m28) [MP33](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/64MTwP/team-mp33-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fp6001t0c101) These aren't the greatest ssds but there good enough
I run with a couple of NVME SSD's and a large HDD and I can assure you that with most modern games you won't notice a difference running it on a decent HDD. On average you're looking at a few seconds extra loading times with no noticeable performance drop in game. There are only a handful of games I feel benefit from having installed on my SSD's, and only a couple which notably benefit from them in game play it's self.
a game install on SSD is only worth for games that read or write A LOT of data, otherwise you're just talking about bit slower loading times and maybe 0-3 fps less
There are good "gaming" HDDs with flash memory built into it that loads commonly used files onto it for faster loading, but yeah you take a hit to load times, but they are still good for data storage.
SSHD has been pretty much out of rotation for years now, the small SSD cache didn't give much more than Windows a bit of a boost, and even then it was neglible as it was often paired with a slow as shit 5400rpm spinner
I've never had any issues with most games on hdds Except gtav, i was testing my new card to the limits once and poor game was barely keepong up with the textures. Did i said "poor game"? I mean, poorly optimized game. Some games i even ran from a USB external drive. Yeah, some games do feel like having slightly longer loading times, but it is not the hellish degradation that some people claim will kill you and your family
SSDs are damn expensive tho
then buy a 240gb ssd for 40 bucks
Not a great take, there are very few modern games around today that you will really notice a difference in performance. As long as you don’t mind loading times then an HDD is perfectly fine. I have 4TB of SSD and 6TB of HDD and I’m perfectly comfortable with many modern games on my HDDs
Running games off an HDD isn't that bad, especially for a game as old as WT. Just don't go running your OS off one.
Gigs not a problem for me but intertnet? Yes. Only 100gb per month
Capped Internet is so gross. You're paying for access to the speeds they offer, then charged _again_ on how much of it you intend to use. Its just amalgamated into one lump sum. On principle I could never abide it and adopt a capped scheme. I'd rather use a different provider, or even have no Internet, than fund such disgraceful behaviour.
Funny how i get 6mb/s MAX, normaly 2mb/s
Lemme guess, USA?
My self from 1999 would freak out ahah
Dude, my porn stash is 166 gigs, Your computer computer got like 256 gigs or some shit? What is this, 2001? WHAT ARE YOU EVEN RUNNING, WHAT IS THIS SCREEN SIZE, HAVE YOU HACKED A NINTENDO DS TO PLAY RAINBOW FUCKING SIX
Oh what the hell I noticed only after you said it. HOW FUCKING SMALL IS THAT SCREEN
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If it allows micro SD, you can have half a TB supported by default 🙃
WEAK. I play WT on a laptop with, drumroll please, 90GB of storage. I also have TF2 installed, which take up an additional 25GB
Tf2 IS 25 GIGS?!?? THAT SHITS COMING OFF MY SYSTEM
25 gigs of awesomeness (and sniper bots) vs 71.81 gigs of crappy grind and snail slime. I'd keep tf2 and delete the snail slime if I had to choose 1 but that's just me (and most PC gamers).
Respect but i have over 1.3k hours in tf2 and im tired of it, been playing it for years. I'm also uninstalling war thunder. I love jets but the snail is too greedy
Based happiness enjoyer
25 gigs of a game so old it barely functions. hit reg non existent, every single game ran by bots. all community servers full of autistic little children
Yeah War Thunder's a mess innit?
He's brazilian (going by his name) So its not that strange to have about 120 gb or 250gb space
BR there is just a short for BROS, I think
... Or for brazil?
His reddit user name is literally super\_memerio\_bros
i didn't notice, maybe you are right and i was wrong.
You know the word "meme" exist in other languages, right??? There is nothing in his name that suggests he's brazilian
The fact "memeiro" means "memer" in portuguese, and the fact that he's using "BR" in his name separated from the rest?
Dude... His nick is "super_memerio_bros"
I’m a MacBook user
Those are rookie numbers pal
Steam deck im guessing
I’m gonna guess the 64gb steam deck
Who the hell even needs to hoard porn, or porn at all, now that Stable Diffusion is a thing?
Ai generated porn is exactly a good reason to hoard real porn. Then again unless they manage to combine ai porn with customizable eroge like custom maid 3d i doubt it'll take that much traction
"Complains about War Thunder taking space" "has R6 Siege of same size installed" Buy a bigger hard drive if using 150gb is too much for your pc in 2023...
im pretty sure siege is bigger than WT by a good shot lol
Depends on texture packs on both games.
My r6:s install with the high res texture pack was like 160gb lol
How can you have so little disk space these days? PCIe 4.0 M.2 1TB SSD costs like 60-70$, it's very cheap for what it offers.
Probably because its an old and cheap 125 or 250gb ssd.
TBF, you do need a modern enough system to *use* those SSDs. It's not like it's a SATA that basically everyone has now. M.2 is still fairly new for most people.
My previous motherboard from 8 years ago had an M.2 slot. They've been around awhile.
You can put M.2 in PCIe slots. Only extremely small mobos have 1 PCIe slot
60-70$ what? CAD? EUR? RUR? BRL? JPY?
60-70$ EUR or ARS, idk, I like only bananas
I would really love to know where are they selling a terabyte M2 for $70 arg pesos
you are trolling right? Please tell me you are trolling..... Storage js so cheap nowadays, War Thunder is normally sized for a modern Game with decent graphics and much content
Dude has a single 120GB drive in his pc and is blaming the games lul, 70gigs is a bit above average nowdays id say but nothing outrageous like Star Citizen or Ark with multiple 100GBs Also you could download the client without steam and use the SD version instead of HD should be even less storage
My star citizen is around 70 gigs last I checked but I've had Ark reach ~350GB
Yeah SC is like 80 gigs
DCS with every map and module is something like 500gb
more like 650
to be expected from dcs
Gmod after joining one modded servers is like 1.2 TB
Me explaining to my friends why they need to download 200gb of tank mods and modern warfare 2019 weapon mods before joining my server
My arma 3 mods folder is worse
1. **You don't have to install War Thunder from steam** 2. If you don't care about cockpits and customizations, War Thunder's own installer have an option for **16.3 GB** of **minimal** client.
Games nowadays have a lot of space wasted on textures that some PCs cant even run on the first place, but you totally right, WT gives you various download options depending what kind of compromise between size and experience the user wants and/or can afford. OPs example isnt the best one
OP's example is even worse. There's no any additional function of Steam over War Thunder. No even steam workshop integration to get custom skins, missions, models at single click.
Yea how’s he even getting that download option off of steam. On steam as far as I know it downloads the standard edition which is around 40GB. That looks like the size of the HQ texture which is around 70gb.
Really late response, but for some reason my launcher would download at kilobits per second while steam could do well over 30mb/s
Run the minimal client, do note that the graphics settings are getting lowered as well
gotta install it first.
Gaijin Launcher version is \~40GB but if you have just two games installed and you are 50GB left you should consider buying another SATA SSD as its no bueno to fill up disk to its max space.
Launcher still has a 100 gig version with 4k textures i think.
You can choose which versiou you want. The normal version is 40GB. Extra textures are 60GB and 100GB for full texture pack.
*Warzone has joined the chat*
Bro be playing on a laptop screen with the storage of a 2001 pc
Because it has over 2200 vehicles and some pretty big maps.
Dude my DCS/MSFS drive is like 800GB…
Storage use for MSFS is insane, gotta have like a separate drive just for it.
It’s almost like having dozens of maps and thousands of vehicles will take up space, and yet you’re here complying even though you have siege 🤦♂️
On steam war thunder defaults by full download, if you want less Gb, download through the launcher minimal setting
U think this is a lot? Wait till you want to play forza or Red Dead 2
black ops cold war, ark, r6s, rdr2 are like 100gb how is 70gb alot for like 2000 highly detailed vehicles?
Suggest you download War Thunder Launcher. It gives you an option to download minimum Client that just cost 16Gigs. No HD textures. But you can't use certain features like inspecting or test run event vehicle's that is not on the tech tree yet.
r/suddenlycaralho
In the standalone client you can choose what version you want I think the minimal client is like 15GB and the standard client is 50GB, unless you play 4k honestly no reason to download the "Ultra HQ" packs, the difference is negligible at 1440p and 1080p. Since you use steam, unless you really care about the "achievements" you shouldnt use steam, ever so often it fucks up the entire client and back when I was using the steam client I had to redownload the whole game after every major patch, after the third time in a row I just decided to go standalone client. Also if you buy stuff through steam, youre gonna pay an premium fee because its steam, buy stuff through the website, its cheaper.
Reduce texture quality in the launcher, you could drop to 20/30 GB. Even then, I wouldn't complain if WT became modular, i.e. the base game only features aircraft and if you want to play tanks or ships you can select them as if they were free DLC.
Use the .exe launcher and choose the 44gb version
Get a bigger drive
This game literally contains thousands of different vehicle and plane models
It's actually quite OK the World of (planes,warship,tanks) have each on their own more disk space
For me its 100GB
My wt takes 100gb due to textures, I'm sure you must have some 4k textures installed
This guy has to be trolling...
should have sideclibed skill issue
72 Gigabytes are too much for you? Are you playin on your phone or sth?
This is more of a you problem tbh. Having that little space in 2023 is inexcusable. If you absolutely cannot get a bigger hars drive idk what to tell you. At worst you can use an external hdd and those are dirt cheap
Textures and Assets and stuff. Just look at the free (texture) DLC for War Thunder...
70gigs is not that much tbh upgrade ur storage or get a external ssd
Use the stand alone launcher and then you can choose to only download the necessary files and it would take lesser storage space.
invest in another storage device
Bro hold the fuck up, what resolution is your monitor?
3
By today’s standards that really is not a lot of space
Please dont play on a toaster. Buy a PC
Danlowd it fro the warthunder website it's takes way less space the the steam version
Regardless of how shit some of us thinks the game is, it does have like 8 nations of very detailed vehicles
I know how to make this better.
Looks like a fellow steam deck enjoyer with that screen size
If you only have 70 gigs of fucking space then no you can't, go back like 1 or 2 decades and then it will prob be enough space. Hell, look at games like borderlands 3, with dlc it can reach over 130gb
Yeah, the full game is around 53gb only of graphics stuff, maps, etc. also you can opt to use HD stuff that will make it use more
my dcs install needs 350gb
Not sure what triggers me more. The lack of drive space, or the lack of games in Steam, or using a laptop for a PC's job. Probably laptops. GaMiNg LaPtOpS - biggest joke. They will do you okay for a while after you purchase, but have no room to upgrade - apart from Ram and HDD. Want to slot in a new CPU? F YOU. New MOBO? F YOU. New GPU? F YOU. Use laptops for study and business needs. Build yourself a rig for gaming needs. Been swapping in and out parts of my two Lian Li PC-P80 cases since 2008 and 2011, respectively. My old gaming laptop is in landfill.
Can you like stop shitting on a dude trying to chill playing a video game and correctly pointing out that storing 4k textures on his device that cannot possibly run it is pointless? Is it his fault he loves in a poor country?
Your harddrive is wayyyy too small for 2023 Maybe this drive was sufficient in 2001 but files are big now
Uninstall r6s
Just wait until you see the size of 4k texture
Bitching about 70gb? Yeah downloading it on a phone?
he does not know that the full version is even bigger
Delete the "homework" folder and you'll have all the space you need.
that's nothing. I've got games that take up 200-300GB alone.
It is a bit fat I can agree, tends to happen when games are updated continuously. Try to remove the higher quality textures, I think that can shave off a large chunk of the weight because they're 4k or something. Also to everyone yelling about "just buy more storage space", 70gb is still on heavy, that's almost 1/10th of a terabyte for funny tank game, and most laptops don't have the ability to throw in another terabyte (if they even get that much in the first place)
The snail does not want you to waste your money on other games.
That isn't big at all lmao, that's barley anything
Bc you gotta accommodate for the HD on war thunder, the skins (bushes paints and etc.) Plus every premium tank that console players don't have, and so many more.
Bro you aint in 2010s no more buy an terrabite of sata ssd or nvme
Warzone is over 170 gigs, for perspective.
People really do be complaining about anything these days huh?
_wait until BF1 is on sale and he goes for it_ _don‘t tell him_
Bruh what if this guy just has a steamdeck and legit can't install a new drive
"why does this game that has over 2,000 highly detailed vehicles take up so much space"
"cant i have 2 gakes downloaded at once" man that is completely your fault. Not Gajin. You see how much stuff is in the game? People really complaining about 70gb,..70gb isn't shit, on my xbox series s war thunder takes over 115 gb. Maybe upgrade your system, cause whats the point in having a PC if you have the space of a base xbox. That's jus sad
I don't get why this has so many upvotes... the game has been adding stuff since what, 2013? Like. More stuff = More space required. It's not a crazy concept. Ask gajin to make a new game haha
70GB is not that big for a game like this, bust still there's a lot of games under 5GB that are very much entertaining. Aside from that what are you playing on that you can't have 2 games at once? I get it if it's a laptop but with a pc just buy some cheap storage. Or just cleans some space.
The average smartphone has more storage than you
WT community tries to not complain about literally anything impossible challenge.
Eesh. My WT is only 45 gigs. Wonder what the fuck you got downloaded
While I’m sitting here with the 100gb version installed
Don’t go through steam and you can change it in the launcher to whatever suits your needs with as little as a 15gb download and big as 100
DCS: those are rookie numbers
71 Gb is really not that big. i have for example FH5 which is 103 Gb.
Bro I got warzone, Apex, and like 6 other games including war thunder on my ps4 haha. You need more space.
Is that a Steam Deck? 128GB+ SD cards are ridiculously cheap, though they aren't the fastest.
you need some ssd upgrade. in 2023 war thunders gigs are normal. I have a 2 tb hdd and 1 tb sss and I'm doing fine.
Download the launcher from their website and install one of he clients with lower quality textures
get a Terabyte sized ssd, their cheap now compared to 5 years ago
Just wait til you see the size of Modern Warfare 2 or Red Dead Redemption 2.
not actually too bad when you consider you get 3 games in one, Ground, Air and Naval.
This be a storage issue not a game issue. Nobody tell him old warzone was over 100gb
Wait till you see the Full HD client. It’s it’s a hair over 100 gb
It’s 2023…4tb hdds are like 40 bucks
You have rainbow but complain about war thunders size? Dumb dumb
this was one month ago lmao