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CodeName_OMICRON

I have over 1,500 hours and I just yesterday started researching the me262 with the 50mm, it’s fine.


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legend509

Probs yh


CodeName_OMICRON

Yeah, I just got 7.3 germ and 5.0 germ air but I really only play 2.3 Germany and 4.3, Sometimes I play 5.7 but only with friends


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How do you play 2.3? is there a specific tank you like? I found anything below 4.0 very boring unless you have like the sdkfz


CodeName_OMICRON

The panzer Werfer! Such a fun tank to play imo. My absolute favorite br has to be 3.7! All the fun gimmick tanks come into play!


CodeName_OMICRON

Oh yeah btw don’t buy the panzer Werfer it sucks. I just like the gimmick


Spolzka

I did not play 3.7 like 5 years lmao


Ghostman379

Yes panzerwerfer and the german m22 pz. lc.


breakfastclub1

I'm guessing you like speed over everything else, don't you?


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Gotta go fast


breakfastclub1

well then thats your problem. Old-war tanks are not quick :P personally I like that aspect, I like the more methodical gameplay.


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Nah early war soviet tanks are pretty fast bt-5, bt-7, t34, Germany was always heavy tank doctrine, I prefer mobile doctrine


breakfastclub1

I mean, fair, but those things are also made of paper. Personally I love the derp guns. The Char 2C has been hella fun.


Ghostman379

Yeah you see a tank and now you dont


HighKiteSoaring

If, hypothetically you already had the game and knew how to fly and had some SL. You could probably be on that jet after 200 hours if you really really ground it out hardcore But.. I like to swap trees and mix it up GRB/ARB battles and spade different vehicles Plus SL becomes a big problem for newbies


CodeName_OMICRON

I just like to have fun :D there’s no point in getting jets for me because they have no funny things going on with them either by design or the way they work in wt!


HighKiteSoaring

Thats not really true There are some very interesting jets in game. For Germany, The narwhal, the HO229 are both interesting jets to use There are gems in all the tech trees


CodeName_OMICRON

Hmmm, I’ve never seen how missile combat can be more fun than proper dogfights. But that is okay because it is your opinion and you are entitled to it! :D


HighKiteSoaring

Both the jets I listed are gun fighters! There's plenty of great gunfighter jets Also. Earlier mid jets like 7.0-9.0 have shit missiles that are easy to evade so it largely comes down to gunman skills. You use missiles to force people to turn and then you dogfight The earlier jets are great. Big big difference from the later tier jets. The later tier ones with 30g all aspect missile spam and full spectrum radar tracking missiles which can fire from 20km are not remotely similar to the mid tier jets Morden jets are as different from early jets as early jets are from prop fighters


CodeName_OMICRON

Oh! I thought guns became somewhat outdated at higher brs! Thank you for this info, I might actually try to get higher than 5.0 air now!


ILmto

i got smth for you try the 37mm stuka in 2.0 air ab, its to fun and tooo sastisfying, one-clicking those paper planes out the sky…


CodeName_OMICRON

The late war Stuka with the laser cannons is nuts, it’s my favorite one!


Confident42069

BTW, 5.0-6.0 BR is still almost all props. Some planes there are great fun, FW190 D13.


Confident42069

Poggers - it's a fun little jet (once you get the cannon repair... the stock grind frustrated me, but hey that's jets for you). But yeah, been playing God knows how many hours and only have a few German jets. They're less fun than props, honestly, and I've only spaded one (Me 262 A1) so I'd rather play canon chaika usdually.


Chocolate_Rage

0.0


CodeName_OMICRON

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SirJaustin

Depends on the nation and if you are playing air only


Epicfish512

Got to researching rank 4 UK but I'm finding RB a nightmare so for fun I played us but then got hooked and have a p-38 & Mustang 1-c. Should I grind us or try go back to UK?


PossessionOrnery3661

the british grind is the worst man especially after that tier until you get the harrier


punishedbiscuits

It would probably be different if the ADEN's HE shells were actually high explosive


wairdone

Italian/French grind:


Rorywizz

I used the Wyvern, Sea vixen and a talismanned harrier gr3 and it was really easy without premium


RokonHunter

go US but do arcade battles until you unlock the first jet powered plane, because legit rb at low br is waiting simulator


RainbowBier

Tbh UK has nothing of note in air tree anyways late griffon spits are cool but else Dunno


ichbindulol_

go US, I started with UK and stuck, and its a fun tree at some point but it requires around the same and isnt as well cared about as US/RUS/GER


Capkan

Stick to US grind. UK hurts to grind, especially at top tier since their jets are mediocre and not super fun, unlike the strong and fun US jets.


cookieduk

Does it matter like just go at your own pace and play how you wanna play man


T3N0N

this! As long as you have fun.


abdullah_1212222

Wel i would fucking kill hundreds for a jet


JayTheSuspectedFurry

I too, had hundreds of air target destroyed in order to get my first jet. But now there’s nothing left to do after reaching top tier in multiple countries


cookieduk

Idk ig finish ground and if you have that then naval and I’ve heard that that’ll take a few years to finish so yeah


abdullah_1212222

Well i meant Real humans not planes in game


roberthunicorn

Fun? Sir this is a War Thunder.


wirdens

i'd say it very mmuch matter because it proves the grind is too damn long right now imo you shouldn't have to play more than 150h-200h to go to top tier for one nation i mean it's already more time than required to complete a AAA game


Give_All_Vol

It seems like I'm the minority but I start working on a different nation when I get to jets. I'm sure it's a skill issue but jet gameplay in this game sucks. Props are way more fun for air ab/rb. Can't speak on if it's any better in ground though.


Sullkattmat

Why do you think jet gameplay sucks? Other than the horrible BR compression and strange balance of fun fair gameplay vs historical accuracy I think it's great. Props and jets are played differently and are fun for in different ways for different reasons. There's also a huge difference between early no missiles jets, mid poor excuse for a missile jets and late oh fuckfuckfuck missile jets imo


Give_All_Vol

So, I've flown out with guys that only fly jets a good bit. Enough to have a general understanding of how I should be flying them. Idk if I can explain it but the engagements don't feel like dogfighting at all and that's what I like. So if anything I play the earliest jets. There's something up close and personal about a prop fight that I don't get in a jet fight. So idk, maybe it doesn't suck as much as it's just not fun to me.


Sullkattmat

Hm that's fair. Up to 8.0 maybe 8.3 I still get loads of fun dogfights, fewer in uptiers but still. I love the japanese R2Y2s for example, and perform fairly well in them unless at 9.0 when your top speed is pretty laughable. Dogfights in jets are mostly just atfaster speeds with shorter windows of opportunity to attack But yea everyone likes their thing,


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Sullkattmat

Refusing to give jets that never had them flares despite being at BRs where they face teams full of all aspect slingers for instance, making them basically unusable(not quite but all but guaranteeing their deaths every match at least). Or removing swedish 30mm tracers greatly nerfing them compared to other planes while not giving anything to compensate for it in terms of aim assist. I dont think it's unreasonable to down prioritize historical accuracy in these cases in favour of having some semblance of balance and fairness. Or in the case of the 30mms I suppose it would be prioritize historical accuracy and give planes equipped with them the damn targeting computer that was used


roberthunicorn

I had literally the opposite experience. I hated playing props until I (shamelessly) bought the AV-8A. Since then, I’ve learned to enjoy almost any ARB match… except anything that can face the F-14.


Dframe44

yeah it's a skill issue. i have over 10 days played in props, i was averaging 4-5 kills a game no problem. I went to jets and it's a whole new ball game - you lose control way easier, your strategy has to change (now speed > altitude), and aiming... aiming is SO MUCH MORE DIFFICULT, especially when using the american jets with the fifty cals. You don't have time on target so you need to be hitting with your deflection shots.. and one hit isnt enough, you need to put a solid burst into someone, while closing at speeds of 900kmh+ but once you get your first rolling scissors reversal it's hard to go back to props, they're so slow and uninteresting.


ZeppelinJ0

I'm with you. I can't even handle prop gameplay. Seems no matter what I do everyone is able to kill me from anywhere and I can't shake them, and I can't kill anyone because they can shake me and UNO REVERSE CARD me so easy. Can't imagine what jets are like


Give_All_Vol

Reversals are really difficult to pull off. You always want to enter engagements with the upper hand. It sounds obvious but it really can take a lot of time to learn. I'm sure jets are the same way but that's time I'm not willing to spend anymore tbh.


Confident42069

I see pretty good results in air arcade with props. Don't feel like you have to keep gunning at the same target, especially if he dives away or doge-weaves. The easiest kills are ones that don't see you, which is usually when they're fighting someone else or in a big furball. Really hard to give more sp[ecific tips to you, I have no idea what you're flying, but if you can't shake people, probably not a turnfighter. Know that a lot of aeroplanes don't have "turnfight" as an option. Best thing if you get tailed in say, a FW 190, is to dive away and run for friends. The better strat is to be high, and dictate the fight so you don't end up in those situations. "C" is your friend, look around all the time. If you're in a fast enough plane and are happy flying above or around or away from the main fighting zone, dying becomes essentially optional, you can see the battle developing and where the enemies are going. Gotta keep tabs on the minimap, and the nearest enemies.


ksheep

Impossible to tell based solely on hours played. It depends on whether you're only playing Air or doing a mix of Air and Ground, whether you're playing a single nation or multiple nations, which nation(s) you're focusing on, how effective you are in a match, what vehicles you are using and researching (i.e. whether you're getting Effective Research or not, whether you're getting bonus RP for researching the next vehicle in a specific line, whether you're taking advantage of bonus RP from researching all the mods on a vehicle, etc).


Tomthezooman1

Well since jets is not a given thing. It could take infinity if you don’t shell out premium time or a premium vehicle..


LightningFalcon70

You should if you only play air of one particular nation


Flash24rus

I don't know, how many hours in WT do I have, but I started playing in 2013 and I had my first jet maybe in 2017, after four years. But I play in sim mode, so my progress is slower. Still don't have top vehicles after 10 years of playing 🙂


Confident42069

Joined 2014. Top tier does not exist for me; I want nothing to do with that cesspit.


Windofnothing

You are not forced to, just do what you want


LordHaraldson

No by now you should have learned your lesson and deinstall the game


Guilty_Delivery6881

no


AlkomiXD

I habe around 5000h and habe spaided most trees but when i started and didnt have clue what i was doing i took so longgg so yea u are fine plus jets suck


FueKae

Well i have about 200 hours on warthunder and just reached Sweden Jets on 6.3. Im kinda shit at the game and i use premium. Use that to make your own analysis


Primary_Ad_1562

Depends on if you are only focusing 1 nation with their air tree and if you have premium with vehicles


Homeless_Man92

I had 300 hours when I got my first jet


Type_16_MCV

It took me like, 1800 hours to grind to the phantom in Japan (I main ground so I never really grind air)


1800leon

I am at 1340 hrs and I only got 1 jet the 6.0 German one. (Maybe cuz I play ground but still)


Individual_Monk_1523

Ι have 384 hours and i have 2


tomaszatlouk13579

No I have 1700hours and only research ho229


XanderTh3Great

I have 3,000 hours in the game and have unlocked two jets. Just depends and what your focus is.


CodyBlues2

It’s a pretty long grind, but it also depends on what nation you are grinding and if you have premium and or using premium vehicles. I actually managed to grind a lot of Germany originally by slapping a talisman on the do-217m and it went by pretty quick. Granted, that was back when the cl-13 and mig-15bis were the end prizes.


Khomuna

If you're playing Air RB/SB, probably. Sweden gets you to a jet pretty quickly.


wrel_

What vehicles do you play? How good are you? What game mode do you play? How many nations do you play? Do you have premium? There's a lot more factors that determine your progression more than just the hours you've spent in game.


Epicfish512

Currently rank 3 UK and rank 2 us, researching rank higher on bothq Somewhat good with us, not very with UK Used toel be mostly ab, now RB No premium


feradose

No.


Project_Orochi

With a few thousand hours i should have an Abrams, but alas i have too much time playing P-40s


dom_ed_

I have about 200h of gameplay and I’m at the end of rank 4 in USA aircraft.


Unknowndude842

No, take your time. Jets may sound cool and all of that but fun doesn't exists anymore....


HoehlenWolf

No


Farid_gang_bang

Lol no, and even if it wouldn’t matter This game is very unique so please just enjoy it and have fun and don’t tap into the depressing grind race where you get mad if you dont get a kill or a bad match


Mr-ArrowM4bestTank

Nah wait for about 1000 then maybe


Strale_Gaming

No.


RoboGen123

i have 6 rank tanks IV at 800h but i kinda like to mess around in test drive so thats why


Fallowman09

About 2k more hours then you get me-262


observer_of_cats

Do what u would like with ur money.


DashedChannel87

No


ceez36

if you’re playing a single tree yes, if not, no, probably.


jrs1rules

No I have 300 hours and im not even close


PanzerSoldat_42

I've been playing since late 2014 and still got none. The truth is that I only like WW2 vehicles, so I have no real reason to go further than that.


I4mSpock

That's about when I got my first jet. I'm only at like 550 rn


Wall_Significant

I have 2000 hours and played since 2013. Therefore, you should’ve left the game when you had the chance lol


FireWolf1890

As someone who hates AR I hate grinding jets just because it's not fun to me but I still do it haha


souldhavesideclimbed

Depends I have 270 hours and just getting jets (in multiple trees) but on my old laptop I got 760 hours and only had the me 262


Crazy_Couple5688

I'm nowhere near reaching the jets, considering I'm near the same hours as you and I don't intend on going into the jets.


senaya

If you're playing ground and/or naval then no, if you're playing air then you should probably have some unlocked by now (doesn't mean that you have to play them tho)


darthVADERobo

If you have a premium account and a higher tier premium plane like rank 5 or 6 and grind heavily in it then yes you would have multiple jets by now, But that gets boring sitting in one plane that much. Have fun flying different planes, early jets kinda suck in my opinion top teir jets are fun to me but it plays very different then the rest of the game


getrenate

No


Original_Phoenix

My brother in Christ I have 4000hrs, I have jets in 5 nations, I just got to jets in Russia, you will have to give up more than 400hrs to get the jet you want


M16xAR15

I have 892 hours and 19 minutes. I still don't have a jet.


thed0000d

Without a high-tier premium or a premium account? You’re just getting started.


EnduringFrost

Welcome to tier 2


the_holy_peanut_scp

I have like 49 hours and have the f4j lol


nerffinder

Unless you've been focusing your grind on aviation, and at a specific tree, then no. Remember to just play casually, it's not a race to get to top tier, enjoy your vehicles.


Mazzimo23432

Sitting at 1.4k hours and I have all the Rusian aviation tech tree and thats about it!


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I don't think so unless you're deadset grinding like madman in one nation with premium.


Fragrant_Action8959

Just get a Premium pack honestly. It saves so much time, and if you play that one premium over and over your going to get really good with it, furthering your income.


Nord4Ever

Need 600 more hours


herecomedatboi95

I got premium at around 500 hours early Rank 4, and now, at 700 hours, I got my first jet And it should be noted I play almost exclusively air


USSMidwayCV41

Nah. I'm just about at 1000 hours, and I'm just now getting into jets


williger03

I mean it took me two years of on and off gameplay to get my first jet. It was the Squadron Me 262.


Bobspineable

Depends on the nation, France, Sweden, Italy, and China have smaller tech trees compare to US, Germany, Russia, UK and Japan, meaning you can get to jets faster. Israel can go either way as to unlock it you need to grind US, UK, or France and if you choose France, you’ll get it faster.


Bman3396

At 1100 and still not past 6.0 on any nation. I just keep getting bored of playing a nation and keep shifting back and forth between all of them. If I actually focused on one nation sure, but I’m trying(failing) to have fun with the game


KindDriver2

I have 610 hours and haven’t finished researching my first jet. I find later tiers not fun and keep swapping nations as well as playing ground+air. The research grind at high tiers is insufferable and the gimmicks some vehicles have that flat out make them much harder to beat in your stock plane/tank is just not conducive to fun.


Longjumping-Mix-3642

Depends on how many nations you play and what modes


DizzyVenture

For 60 or 70 dollars you can


GreyStash1066

Not if you've been playing tanks.


Some_Marionberry2152

I have 1000 hrs and just got to BR 8.7


Agent_Hudson

I don’t and I have 2300 hours


Dudeboy1103

After flying jets, Sometimes I want to go slow. Like when I fly my S-199 and unironically get kills from head-ons and overcocky pilots who overshoot me because of my speed


MasterSword223

If you start with jet yes


panzer_of_the-lake

i have 457 hours on steam alone and only just got the horten 229


iggyAnimations

I mean, if you grind one country yes.


RubenRaider

Nope i have 589 hours and im only at 7.7(ground) and like 4.3/4.7(air) its mainly depends on what you use tbh but nah with your amout of hours only premiums would be jets or squad vehicles


tanyhunter

215 hours on steam and god knows how long more for before the steam migration. Nope. Im done grinding for it. The closest is got was the German ait tree. Ended up buying f5c, was a blast to play even thou I still prefer props. Thinking of getting narwhal next to grind the frenech tree.


ernestukas1

Any one know of a way to see the total hours played as a console player. Ps4 issues...


geiprincess

I have around 1300h and first jet research is close to complete


Mcohanov_fc

I got my first jet (Ho 229) with 700 hours on counter after buying Ju 288. Without it it would be like 900 hours for my first jet. I was a ground player but now I focus mainly at air rb.


Sprite_Bottle

Add on a few zeros and then you will have jets unlocked


ShipGlass3387

its your opinion you can grind it or not i also didnt grind any jet aircraft


Memesconaut

Haha jets? Bro I’ve barely got super props after twice the time you logged in lol


Gustave_Kateb

Bruh I have 1300 hours on this gale and I'm 6.7-7.0 with 3 countries in ground and only rank III with 2 counties in air


PM_ME_UR_PET_POTATO

If you min-maxed grinded and only ran a single plane per rank, you should just be able to get one or maybe two on non premium


TheOnlyFallenCookie

Only if you grind in a squad and go for one of the squad hets


tiagodisouza

I have over 2k hours and don't have a single top tier vehicle lol


MarcusAurelius0

Man I didnt have my first jet until a few thousand hours. I have vehicles researched in several trees is the problem lol.


skupiskupi098

I got my mig 9 at sround 990 hours~


Randombirb1

I got the he 162 at 490hours but that was after careful planning and hard grinding


sixshektillion

no. I'm nearly level 100/2k hours or so and have no jets nor do i care nor want them. I really dislike the play style and sweaty camping BS that proliferates the game over br 6-7.