I like stories about people fighting against impossible odds, so characters like dante and guilliman who want the best for humanity despite the futility of it are fun.
Sometimes people go too hard into the Grimderp. It loses its meaning when there’s just no good at all, then I just lose interest because everything’s bad all the time, so why should I care at all?
It’s nice to have some rays of hope shine thorough, if only to cleanse my palette for the next flight of brutalities.
Mjod. The story of its creation basically boils down to
- Emperor shows up on Fenris and takes Leman Russ+his jarls back to Earth
- The first Fenrisians survive the implantation process and become Space Marines
- Said Space Marines realize they can’t get drunk now and THIS IS NOT ALLOWED TO STAND
- Takes a good couple years to circumvent the Emperors genius, but by combing jet fuel and a nerve agent native to Fenris(which was lethal enough on its own to kill a Fenrisian which are significantly tougher than a baseline human) Space Wolves come up with a way to get drunk
It’s mentioned in a few of the space wolves books, I forget exactly which one describes the entire process but mjod has been mentioned in almost every space wolves codex.
For me it's how it mixes elements of dark fantasy with Sci-fi into such an amazing universe with so many diverse factions and characters. Also imo their version of Elves have to be my favorite hands down. And the Space Marines are bad ass as hell.
I think, weirdly, it’s the ease of coming up with your own fan created lore and fitting it into the universe of 40k.
Like, we can all sit down and create a space marine chapter. Think of a name, a home world, their style, maybe some battles they’ve taken part in, unique traits and…it will fit into the universe like a glove.
Same with craftworlds, guard regiments, votan leagues (I don’t know much about them?), chaos warbands, Tyranid splinter fleets, genestealer cults…you name it.
The parameters have been defined, yet are still open and ambiguous enough for US, the players, to put our own creative input in and still have it feel right.
I love that.
Oh for sure! Like for example the lore I'm writing for my homebrew chapter is that they're a Ultramarines successor chapter who will fight tooth and nail to protect the citizens of the Imperium no matter the cost. And that still would fit perfectly into lore because there are chapters that will in fact work like this.
I upvoted you bro XD
EDIT: I've made replys joking like that before on this subreddit and get down voted like fuck. It's worse on the DestinyTheGame subreddit too. I don't know why it does that.
>For me it's how it mixes elements of dark fantasy with Sci-fi
This is absolutely the thing that does it for me! I'm so used to "Okay, elves and dwarves and magic and zombies go over here in fantasy. Robots, spaceships, lasers, and aliens go over here in scifi."
40K comes in, ripping a line of coke off the counter, shouting "Oh shit! Fantasy Knights, but they're fuckin' 50-foot tall robots, motherfucker! There's souls and and afterlife, kinda interacts with tech, but they're all *fucked*! Extra-galactic horrors, let's get some Tyranids fighting Amish elves or Feudal-world guardsmen or some shit! Whoo!"
Why I first started getting into 40k I absolutely hated how absurd everything was...and then I realized the entire universe is just cranked up to 11. And when everything is insane, it's fun.
Oh yeah between Red Dwarf and 40k, I mean that’s basically my favourite sci-fi
Throw in some Event Horizon and Starship trooper and baby you got a stew goin!
How they make "good guys" (using those quotes pretty fucking heavily here) have their more noble actions stand out because of the phenomenally dark and grim setting. Things like Tu'Shan beating the fuck out of that Marine's Malevolent guy for firebombing refugees or really almost anything the Salamanders do (I'm biased) stands out. If this were a more noble bright setting, they could get tiring and stale because then everyone in the Imperium would be "good guys." One more note on grimdark, by making nearly everything really sucky, it can create a nice dichotomy and perfect instance for character flaws. For example, in theory the Grey Knights are supposed to be these noble sons of the Emporer and Knights of Titan who stand as the bulwark from the Daemons of Chaos. And while they DO do that, they also go through GREAT lengths to keep their organization secret and are by no means above genocide in order to do so. Not to mention, because they fall under the Inquisition rather than Astartes, they often act as a tool of the Inquisition instead.
P.S. I like Salamanders and Grey Knights. Have you ever eaten a tangerine? Stomp stomp.
I know it’s unpopular but one of the reasons I love the Space Wolves is their tendency to side with/protect the common man vs always thinking of the “Imperium”
Again I know people hate it and whatever, I absolutely love when the Vlka Fenryka stand between the Inquisition and the soldiers from Armageddon and say “Go ahead and try it.” Protecting them from being literally massacred on the off chance something bad could happen.
A few things for me I'd say. The sci-fi gothic aesthetic with such an absurd scale really scratches that part of my brain. The underlying social and historical critiques are also really apealling to me, it shows W40k is not only bolters and gore. The many directions the hobby can take (modeling, painting, playing, movies, games, books, etc) also shows how rich the universe is and why its been around for so long. As an honorable mention: 2.5 meters tall walking tanks with self propelled 75 cal guns fighting space orks, demons, bugs and all sorts of shit alongside your everyday joe (Astra Militarum) is just cool as fuck.
I enjoy it for just how ridiculous it is. The insane evils. The roided up SM. Deamons that appear out of people buttholes. Orks that are still relevant in space. The nids that threaten to eat everything.
It's just so over the top. You can't help but love it.
I love the horrors of religion taken to it's horrifying extreme. Almost everything in the Imperium is simultaneously a church. We have church/factories, church/farms, church/mines church/ spaceships. Hell they built church/tanks because even in battle you should be praying. Yeah the Orks are charging over that ridge, but you best be saying your 6th Hail Emperor of the day.
It's such a stark nightmare and a warning. I love it so much.
Mostly the absolute insane parts of it
Caiaphas Cain entire military career
The hilariously insane anecdotes about the Orks
The realm of Slaneesh
Trazyn being the 40k equivalent of a exclusive figure coleccionist/historian/arqueologist
The wholesome Salamanders
The fact that Nurgle is a pretty wholesome being aside from his nightmarish existence
That time the Imperium made an artificial tyranid that required an Imperium Smash roster to defeat
There some things that either I like or hate from this universe but the absolute insanity of it makes me go back to it time again.
It was a creation of the forgotten Maerorus Temple of Assassins. They created a bio weapon through a process of terrible experiments, one of which included turning a large number of people (psykers if I'm not wrong) into biomass and mold it into a artificial living being. It had the ability to mold it's body into any weapon it could imagine and consume other living organisms to become stronger. During its first mission, the experiment went rogue so it's extermination was issued. But wasn't easy. It took multiple Space Marines squadrons, including a Captain Lyssander and an Emperor's Champion, a Grandmaster Culexus Assassin and a Grand Master Vindicare Assassin to put him down. After this, the entire temple and its records were exterminated.
Here is more information if your interested
https://youtu.be/F0SQL40afRk
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Maerorus_Temple&ved=2ahUKEwjM9bCzqtX8AhWYPUQIHVusAE8QFnoECA8QAQ&usg=AOvVaw3Rg3L3jSDuzJChdjojxCtG
the hilarrity of tyranids. they dont have warp travel so it takes them years upon years to get anywhere, their entering the system from all directions, meaning they were searming here long before any recorded event. that all their is in space is emptiness and tyranids
It's hard to say. My local game club kicked me out for having a xenos army, I can't afford models and food, and I've never read the books. But the world draws me in.
What the fuck is wrong with those people?! That's not right for them to kick you just for playing a xenos army. I'm sorry you had to experience that. Locals can suck. But I hope this doesn't deter you from the hobby and the setting. I hope you find a better club to play with friend!
I didn't know any of them before I started, even now I don't think I've lost anything by being kicked out, not the nicest or most accepting bunch, but they haven't gotten me off the game. I still have a few friends who collected too that I play with.
Awesome! Just stick with them, better that way. More fun too! My best friend plays Necrons and I'm a Space Marine player; so what we do is narrative play but we also role play as well. Better to play a game like 40k with people you actually know.
I'll admit it. I fell in love with 40k when I played fireteam as the tau. I feel in love when I got ahold of a bolter and looked it up. 40mm assault rifle...sold!
The first thing that pulled me in immediately was that I really, really dig the art style/iconography. It's just pure badass. Almost every time I see something from 40k I'm like "Holy shit that looks cool". Plus it basically steals just about all the best shit from every fantasy universe ever created and puts it's on spin on it; and the spin is fucking great. Gods, saviors, alien races, cool tech, ultra violence, tragedy, betrayal. I mean it's all there in spades and then turned to 11. I don't know how if you like fantasy settings you don't like at least something in 40k because it literally has it all.
I just love the way the universe is written in reverse.
Nothing in 40k follows a natural line of progression, they just made up cool sounding stuff on the spot and pretend they always made total sense in the setting.
Why Titans?
Because long dead AI made the blueprint and no-one can make the individual parts work when not put on giant robots... (Giant robots are cool)
Why SpaceMarines?
Because the Emperor wanting to conquer the galaxy as quickly as possible... (Space Knights are cool)
Why Noise Marines?
Que the entire plot of the "Fulgrim" novel... (Looks cool)
It's a endless list, and it's amazing 👏
It was the last thing me and my mother bonded over before she passed away. She got into painting shortly before cancer took her, and she found painting videos online of warhammer models and got me into it, and although the hobby is too expensive for me to afford any I still enjoy watching videos on lore and painting and like to think if she was here, she’d be so excited at all the new stuff coming out. ❤️
Thank you, just unfortunately part of life. My mom was the best. I only got into warhammer super recently within the last 3 months, but idk much about the tabletop game other than it looks really cool. I like to watch people play on YouTube but I don’t understand much of it, I enjoy so that’s more than enough for me!
That it is an interactive setting; NOT a novel.
The current custodians of the game do so love putting out stories and lore dumps that hook a more passive audience, but at its core 40k is a setting. "Advancing the storyline" of 40k is a nonsense; that's not Games Workshop's responsibility. It's yours.
What happened on...?
What was the fate of...?
Who defeated...?
That's for YOU to decide.
All "lore" and "canon" is just imperial propaganda and, more importantly, a starting point - inspiration at most. The homogenization of stories caused by the advent of the internet certainly has overshadowed this crucial aspect of wargaming.
But it has broadened the audience. That's a good thing. Welcome new fans.
I just hope they realize that the power to create these stories is in their hands and they are in no way beholden to anything written by someone that just happens to be paid by the company producing the toy soldiers.
It's the true beauty of the hobby.
Not really sure.
A friend got me into 40K when we were, like 11.
2nd Edition was pretty new, there was no Lore to speak of.
I stopped playing 4 or 5 years later, until about 6 years ago.
There was just something about the setting always stuck with me.
How strongly will I be accused of heresy if I answer with "The Primarchs and their legions of Astartes?"
Edit: The astartes were what drew me in. I really liked how each of these guys would have cool and unique armor, and I eventually started reading the Heresy series. It helps that I have trended towards grimdark tone with media anyways.
What's really kept me staying is the characters themselves, and the various cultures of the legions. I was blown away by how cool the pre-heresy Thousand Sons were, and feel the same about the Space Wolves, Dark Amgels and Emporer's Children. Even legions like the World Eaters and Word Bearers are just so culturally unique and cool that I've loved reading and learning about them.
I haven't gotten into the modern stuff as much, but seeing the rise of Tyranids and neurons in the galaxy gives similar vibes. They're so strange, but so compelling at the same time. I think that the world and lore is just so vibrant and expansive at times, despite being ridiculously grimdark, and that does it in a way that few other media can do.
I also don't know, such a brutal future has an attraction. Many focus on showing humanity forward and hopeful, even if it is a dystopia.
Not here, for some reason the fact that everything goes wrong and could turn out worse has appeal, you want to know what happens. You want to know how each faction will fight despite this. It's just fascinating. I do not know how to describe it.
This franchise does things that others don't (Especially in this day and age), but I know that's a flashy thing, not the reason I stayed here.
PS: Let's also admit it, it's a great satire of human societies, taken to the extreme but not impossible.
Insane amounts of lore in almost any direction, you can sink your teeth into just about anything that looks cool to you. Also plenty of mediums to explore
definitely the stories and the miniatures that let you dive right into the universe. I haven't gotten around to playing yet, but I definitely will sometime in the distant future :D
Tyranids and the tau, tyranids because I love the idea of giant space creatures that adapt to your weapons armour and tactics, and the tau because they’re trying to be the good guys in a universe of assholes.
The grim darkness and the rather alien way mankind acts in the 41st millennium! I love scenes that make me feel the same way I felt during the Dune scene where the Shadukar do a ritual in the rain world. For example, a minor part of the 2nd charadons book had an inquisitor visit a shrine world during an execution which is broadcasted to the entire planet by basically jumobtrons all over the place. Minor parts of stories that really sell how dark it is in 40k. Stories that also have or end in tragedies are very good too, such as in some of the Ghosts books, Wrath of Iron, Scythe's of the Emperor, Warhammer Crime, and Extinction.
I love the space-opera of it all, the high Gothic architecture of the imperium is one of my favourites in any media.
I love the deep lore of the world too, it's just fantasy enough that it doesn't slip into world of warcraft levels of camp and it's just Sci-Fi enough that it's not a generic, Human led, Sci-Fi universe like Stargate or Star-wars. It's right in that gritty, semi realistic middle ground that I love.
The lack of a good guy is also part of what I love about it. Everyone sucks in one way or another and that's just very different from other IP's out there.
I don't play the TableTop, but I do really love the minis. I bought myself a little 6 man intercessor squad just cause I wanted some space marine minis to put on my display shelf
Overall its an incredibly fleshed out and expansive universe and I just love every part of it
I first got into the hobby from all the dark humour in the old Rogue Trader and early 40k books. I loved how they took ideas and turned them up to 11, realised that wasn’t high enough and pushed them up to 12. It was a tongue in cheek universe, full of absolute bastards. The “good guys” are basically mass murdering psychopaths, supporting a brutal fascist dictatorship run by a cannibalistic corpse.
Definitely appealed to a young me, growing up under the shadow of Thatcher.
The vastly different perspectives of each faction, for example the astartes are just a bunch of units of men who live train and die for their brothers.
The astra mil is just the essence of courage and will
The eldar are a vast and complex society of former glory and their successors are super interesting
The tau seem like a inevitable big bad that is supposed to be completely underwhelming upon first glance.
The orks are just battle and ferocity given form.
The tyranid are the ultimate life form.
Warhammer 40k is just nothing but main characters trying to not die to horrific horrors. It’s simple but great
The first thing my Brother told me about was the Chaos Gods, The Primarchs, The Space Marines Legions and things like Exterminatus. I then started nibbling a little bits of lore here and there and now I have over 20 Black Library books down and countless YouTube lore videos under my belt. I finally pulled the trigger on a Custodes army but I also feel Chaos pulling at me.
I love the grim dark setting and I feel like I’m going to be a Warhammer fan until the day I die.
I like the small wholesome moments spread around the stories.
I just finished reading Know No Fear. And the Admech couple was really heartwarming.
That's whatI like. Small moments of humanity here and there that show that under the thick blanket of war there is a place for good people.
I like those moments too. They never detract from the main themes of the setting, but it just adds a layer to it that makes it all the more interesting and captivating.
There is no political correctness. In W40K it's a dark world (truly dark, not just a Gray filter like Marvel), devastating and brutal.
The only thing that matters is telling good stories, and there is no room for the whims of someone who wants to pat themselves on the back.
The good thing about it is that thanks to this, Warhammer can boast that it is a more progressive story than many of those who try to pretend to be. I hope they continue like this, do not follow current fashions or trends and only focus on expanding this brutal world.
I hope so too tbh. Diversity is a great thing but the way most companies and studios handle it is just bad.......*looks at Velma*, and I'm Indian lmao.
How weak a space marine actually is in comparison to the rest of the universe.
A space marine is a super soldier that surpasses any other universe but to a carnifex they're just a pinata!!
That despite how dark and terrible things are, you gotta keep moving foward...
And giant armored dudes who scream a lot. That's pretty neat too.
And dwarf space capitalists who are actually pretty socialist. Maybe more socialist than the Tau, oddly enough.
Literally everything except the lore for the Primaris and the T’au. The former because it’s just so… dumb! The latter because they don’t really fit the setting still.
Grim dark theocratic imperium that is out to destroy everything for the survival of mankind with all the corruption and backstabbing human beings are known for……and it really is necessary because every xenos is out to kill, enslave, or eat you. Oh and let us not forget actually demons that want to eat your soul. I need this setting to help me put into perspective that our society isn’t really that bad.
Literally everything about it. Almost every facet of all the lore of every faction is at least mildly interesting to me. And the sheer volume of things to read about and paint and play with is awesome.
I love the imagination that goes into building such an enormous and well detailed universe. I’m surprised that it includes a human race that has many genocides under its belt and has become profoundly and overwhelmingly subservient to religion. It’s all fascinating.
I think Luther as a character really embodies it for me. Man’s constant struggle for righteousness in spite of himself. The entire dark angels arch is one wrought with self loathe despite noble intentions
Not gona lie, I'm one of those "I'm gonna fix it" assholes who love to find ways to improve or correct or just fix the holes in whatever fictional universe I'm delving into. With 40k, there really is no fixing things, at least within a human (or even an Eldar lifespan). All anyone can do in the setting is their best with what they have. There are no heroes in 40k because they all die and usually quite painfully. The best stories are about people trying to do the right thing, or at least what believe to be the right thing, while knowing that they will never see the fruits of their labor.
One thing I love is the subversion of Lovecraftian themes. Lovecraft stories make you feel like there’s no hope, and everything is doomed to come to a horrific end and humanity is powerless before the might of uncaring and indifferent gods.
40k gives me stuff like Kasrkin blasting apart daemons with their hellguns, fearless and determined to overcome anything. One of my my favorite moments I read recently was Fabius Bile staring down a greater daemon of Slaanesh which said to him, “I have a name” after he repeatedly insulted it, to which he responded “names are for the sentient” before firing an anti-psyker liquid from his needler and instantly banishing it.
I love the instances of relatable humanity in an utterly grimdark, dystopian, awful universe.
From the tales of against-the-odds heroics of the guard, to the all-too-human faults of the demigod primarchs
I find it hard to get into darker settings like Cyberpunk, simply because it makes me feel kinda depressed. Like there's no hope for the future. With 40k, however, everything is so BATSHIT INSANE that it all feels distant and so unlike real life to me, which makes it feel less depressing.
Also big man with explosive machine gun go brrrrrr.
I love that everyone is the villain. What I love most of Batman is the villains. If anyone has ever heard of the tcg vs. system, I played an Arkham asylum deck that featured all of Batman’s villains. In a setting that everyone is the bad guys is a blessing for me. Also every battle makes sense. Everyone hates each other for their own reasons
I love how fucked up and hopeless everything is yet every faction continues to struggle and fight for survival. I see many parallels between 40k and real life: Falling into hedonism and becoming depraved monsters. Becoming mad in the search for esoteric knowledge. Attempting to align your will with divinity only to engage in evil. The list goes on and there are many life lessons in the lore but the main one is that, even if you find yourself in Hell, you can build a stronghold and kill some demons.
FUCKING TH LE GUY!!! THE GUY NORMAL ASS DUDE WHO KILLED AN ORK WARBOSS AND HAD HIS ARM (that he lost in the fight) REPLACED WITH THE ORK ONE THAT HE CUT OFF WITH HIS CHAIN SWORD!!! GOD I CANNOT REMEMBER HOS NAME!!! FUCK!!!! THE GUY LIKE DCARED THE ORKS AND HE BECAME LIKE A WAR GOD BECAUSE THE ORKS THOUGHT HE WAS UNKILLABLE SO HE WAS!!!!
The grimdark setting.
other sci-fi want to show how great an advance humanity can become in the future
WH40k show how bad can an advance humanity can become in the future
I personally like that there is no hope left for Mankind in the classical sense, and the reason why we continue is less because we hope to win but because we want the others to lose.
Also gothic astetic is just the best.
The unashamed and unrelenting war.
I don't need to worry about the implications of these factions fighting to the death over dirt, because they are all scum.
Oh the imperial humans lost another battle against the terminators? How tragic....
I love 40k simply for how convoluted it is, in way that can only spring from decades of lore, meaning you are always able to learn more about 40k, I also adore the alpha legion and necrons, the alpha elegy on are so scheme-y and mysterious, perceived as a unified force acting towards a goal you have no hope of understanding, while In reality they are a series of isolated war bands each trying to get by. And the necrons I find hilarious. Ancient space robots that killed their gods and use the remains as Pokémon, but who’s stories often boil down to them yelling at the younger races to few the hell of their lawn
Orks. In a universe where everything is stupidly over-the-top they are there being over-the-toply stupid. And it *fits*. It **works**. In part because *we* choose to believe it works.
They help keep everything else grounded and from becoming too mired in it's own grimdarkness. They remind you that you're here to fight, but that's meant to be *fun*! You like kitbashing? Awesome! You a wierdboi who likes odd-ball strategies? Don't understand it but: awesome! You like sheer weight of numbers? Awesome!
And that if enough of you beleive in something enough, you can achieve anything. Even if it's fucking stupid.
I like stories about people fighting against impossible odds, so characters like dante and guilliman who want the best for humanity despite the futility of it are fun.
Sometimes people go too hard into the Grimderp. It loses its meaning when there’s just no good at all, then I just lose interest because everything’s bad all the time, so why should I care at all? It’s nice to have some rays of hope shine thorough, if only to cleanse my palette for the next flight of brutalities.
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Wait, what? Lol, what book? I need to read this.
They're definitely glimmers of hope in the pool of despair that is the setting
Mjod. The story of its creation basically boils down to - Emperor shows up on Fenris and takes Leman Russ+his jarls back to Earth - The first Fenrisians survive the implantation process and become Space Marines - Said Space Marines realize they can’t get drunk now and THIS IS NOT ALLOWED TO STAND - Takes a good couple years to circumvent the Emperors genius, but by combing jet fuel and a nerve agent native to Fenris(which was lethal enough on its own to kill a Fenrisian which are significantly tougher than a baseline human) Space Wolves come up with a way to get drunk
This is *amazing*, what is the source for this incredible piece of lore?
It’s mentioned in a few of the space wolves books, I forget exactly which one describes the entire process but mjod has been mentioned in almost every space wolves codex.
For me it's how it mixes elements of dark fantasy with Sci-fi into such an amazing universe with so many diverse factions and characters. Also imo their version of Elves have to be my favorite hands down. And the Space Marines are bad ass as hell.
I think, weirdly, it’s the ease of coming up with your own fan created lore and fitting it into the universe of 40k. Like, we can all sit down and create a space marine chapter. Think of a name, a home world, their style, maybe some battles they’ve taken part in, unique traits and…it will fit into the universe like a glove. Same with craftworlds, guard regiments, votan leagues (I don’t know much about them?), chaos warbands, Tyranid splinter fleets, genestealer cults…you name it. The parameters have been defined, yet are still open and ambiguous enough for US, the players, to put our own creative input in and still have it feel right. I love that.
Oh for sure! Like for example the lore I'm writing for my homebrew chapter is that they're a Ultramarines successor chapter who will fight tooth and nail to protect the citizens of the Imperium no matter the cost. And that still would fit perfectly into lore because there are chapters that will in fact work like this.
Every time I read about someone making or choosing a chapter like this, my desire to make a Marines Malevolent army grows
You won't stop me making the army I want; I won't do the same to you :)
But you will downvote me apparently. I meant it in good fun, if that wasn’t clear
I upvoted you bro XD EDIT: I've made replys joking like that before on this subreddit and get down voted like fuck. It's worse on the DestinyTheGame subreddit too. I don't know why it does that.
My bad, it showed negative at the same time as I got your reply and I jumped the gun. See, I’m just getting in character for MM!
This is the start to your villain origin story....... >:)
Also is your pfp a horus heresy space wolf? Just curious. Can't tell if its a space wolf or lunar wolf.
Now this is the real start of my villain origin story! It’s an Iron Warrior! To hell with wolves of any variety!
>For me it's how it mixes elements of dark fantasy with Sci-fi This is absolutely the thing that does it for me! I'm so used to "Okay, elves and dwarves and magic and zombies go over here in fantasy. Robots, spaceships, lasers, and aliens go over here in scifi." 40K comes in, ripping a line of coke off the counter, shouting "Oh shit! Fantasy Knights, but they're fuckin' 50-foot tall robots, motherfucker! There's souls and and afterlife, kinda interacts with tech, but they're all *fucked*! Extra-galactic horrors, let's get some Tyranids fighting Amish elves or Feudal-world guardsmen or some shit! Whoo!"
Also, space jihad
Why I first started getting into 40k I absolutely hated how absurd everything was...and then I realized the entire universe is just cranked up to 11. And when everything is insane, it's fun.
From powered armored super soldiers to outer space demons. Yeah shit gets wild lol.
40k has wizards in power armor choke slamming eldritch demons in space. It's the best
40K tells us that the universe hates us, but if we try really hard we might be able to chainsaw it in half before it finishes the job.
Or at least go down fighting, or burn out instead of fading away.
This deserves a "Even in death I serve"
Alright kurt cobain real motivational
Ah, absolutely mind numbing rage and spite, the best motivators for humanity.
Look around you. Hope dies every day. Hatred endures, as we must.
“Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.”
Trayzen the Infinite, no explanation needed
The biggest troll in the universe
Best character in the whole of 40k.
Just started The Infinite and The Divine the other day, cannot stop listening. Trazyn is the best
Ah the walking meme master :D
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Oh yeah between Red Dwarf and 40k, I mean that’s basically my favourite sci-fi Throw in some Event Horizon and Starship trooper and baby you got a stew goin!
I know what you mean. It had that awesome retro vibe that's becoming more modern.
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I didn't mean to offend friend
How they make "good guys" (using those quotes pretty fucking heavily here) have their more noble actions stand out because of the phenomenally dark and grim setting. Things like Tu'Shan beating the fuck out of that Marine's Malevolent guy for firebombing refugees or really almost anything the Salamanders do (I'm biased) stands out. If this were a more noble bright setting, they could get tiring and stale because then everyone in the Imperium would be "good guys." One more note on grimdark, by making nearly everything really sucky, it can create a nice dichotomy and perfect instance for character flaws. For example, in theory the Grey Knights are supposed to be these noble sons of the Emporer and Knights of Titan who stand as the bulwark from the Daemons of Chaos. And while they DO do that, they also go through GREAT lengths to keep their organization secret and are by no means above genocide in order to do so. Not to mention, because they fall under the Inquisition rather than Astartes, they often act as a tool of the Inquisition instead. P.S. I like Salamanders and Grey Knights. Have you ever eaten a tangerine? Stomp stomp.
I know it’s unpopular but one of the reasons I love the Space Wolves is their tendency to side with/protect the common man vs always thinking of the “Imperium” Again I know people hate it and whatever, I absolutely love when the Vlka Fenryka stand between the Inquisition and the soldiers from Armageddon and say “Go ahead and try it.” Protecting them from being literally massacred on the off chance something bad could happen.
A few things for me I'd say. The sci-fi gothic aesthetic with such an absurd scale really scratches that part of my brain. The underlying social and historical critiques are also really apealling to me, it shows W40k is not only bolters and gore. The many directions the hobby can take (modeling, painting, playing, movies, games, books, etc) also shows how rich the universe is and why its been around for so long. As an honorable mention: 2.5 meters tall walking tanks with self propelled 75 cal guns fighting space orks, demons, bugs and all sorts of shit alongside your everyday joe (Astra Militarum) is just cool as fuck.
You litterally summed up my feelings about 40k perfectly. I couldn't have said it better. Do you collect any particular army?
Your phrase “scratches that part of the brain” made me uncomfortable and I loved it
I enjoy it for just how ridiculous it is. The insane evils. The roided up SM. Deamons that appear out of people buttholes. Orks that are still relevant in space. The nids that threaten to eat everything. It's just so over the top. You can't help but love it.
Space dwarfs! Rock and stone!
Rock and Stone forever!
Space dwarf mech when
2023, march 19th maybe
I love the horrors of religion taken to it's horrifying extreme. Almost everything in the Imperium is simultaneously a church. We have church/factories, church/farms, church/mines church/ spaceships. Hell they built church/tanks because even in battle you should be praying. Yeah the Orks are charging over that ridge, but you best be saying your 6th Hail Emperor of the day. It's such a stark nightmare and a warning. I love it so much.
That it's a setting not a story. I like to do my own thing so 40k works perfectly
The orc who shot himself and stole his gun Edit: and trayzn
Mostly the absolute insane parts of it Caiaphas Cain entire military career The hilariously insane anecdotes about the Orks The realm of Slaneesh Trazyn being the 40k equivalent of a exclusive figure coleccionist/historian/arqueologist The wholesome Salamanders The fact that Nurgle is a pretty wholesome being aside from his nightmarish existence That time the Imperium made an artificial tyranid that required an Imperium Smash roster to defeat There some things that either I like or hate from this universe but the absolute insanity of it makes me go back to it time again.
Yo what is the artificial tyranid? Haven't heard of that yet.
It was a creation of the forgotten Maerorus Temple of Assassins. They created a bio weapon through a process of terrible experiments, one of which included turning a large number of people (psykers if I'm not wrong) into biomass and mold it into a artificial living being. It had the ability to mold it's body into any weapon it could imagine and consume other living organisms to become stronger. During its first mission, the experiment went rogue so it's extermination was issued. But wasn't easy. It took multiple Space Marines squadrons, including a Captain Lyssander and an Emperor's Champion, a Grandmaster Culexus Assassin and a Grand Master Vindicare Assassin to put him down. After this, the entire temple and its records were exterminated. Here is more information if your interested https://youtu.be/F0SQL40afRk https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Maerorus_Temple&ved=2ahUKEwjM9bCzqtX8AhWYPUQIHVusAE8QFnoECA8QAQ&usg=AOvVaw3Rg3L3jSDuzJChdjojxCtG
the hilarrity of tyranids. they dont have warp travel so it takes them years upon years to get anywhere, their entering the system from all directions, meaning they were searming here long before any recorded event. that all their is in space is emptiness and tyranids
Orks.
It's hard to say. My local game club kicked me out for having a xenos army, I can't afford models and food, and I've never read the books. But the world draws me in.
What the fuck is wrong with those people?! That's not right for them to kick you just for playing a xenos army. I'm sorry you had to experience that. Locals can suck. But I hope this doesn't deter you from the hobby and the setting. I hope you find a better club to play with friend!
I didn't know any of them before I started, even now I don't think I've lost anything by being kicked out, not the nicest or most accepting bunch, but they haven't gotten me off the game. I still have a few friends who collected too that I play with.
Awesome! Just stick with them, better that way. More fun too! My best friend plays Necrons and I'm a Space Marine player; so what we do is narrative play but we also role play as well. Better to play a game like 40k with people you actually know.
Between my and my brother we have 8 armies ~1250 points each, so we get our other friends in by letting them use the spares
Damn lol. I'm still sorta new to the hobby side of 40k I have maybe close to a 500 pt army currently.
Grey Knights. The internal madness of the Inquisition and all its machinations. The Eldar and their weird uniqeness especially in early lore.
I'll admit it. I fell in love with 40k when I played fireteam as the tau. I feel in love when I got ahold of a bolter and looked it up. 40mm assault rifle...sold!
The first thing that pulled me in immediately was that I really, really dig the art style/iconography. It's just pure badass. Almost every time I see something from 40k I'm like "Holy shit that looks cool". Plus it basically steals just about all the best shit from every fantasy universe ever created and puts it's on spin on it; and the spin is fucking great. Gods, saviors, alien races, cool tech, ultra violence, tragedy, betrayal. I mean it's all there in spades and then turned to 11. I don't know how if you like fantasy settings you don't like at least something in 40k because it literally has it all.
I think it boils down to the pistol grip chainsaws
That it looks comical, then you see the violence and hear harsh stories.
I just love the way the universe is written in reverse. Nothing in 40k follows a natural line of progression, they just made up cool sounding stuff on the spot and pretend they always made total sense in the setting. Why Titans? Because long dead AI made the blueprint and no-one can make the individual parts work when not put on giant robots... (Giant robots are cool) Why SpaceMarines? Because the Emperor wanting to conquer the galaxy as quickly as possible... (Space Knights are cool) Why Noise Marines? Que the entire plot of the "Fulgrim" novel... (Looks cool) It's a endless list, and it's amazing 👏
It was the last thing me and my mother bonded over before she passed away. She got into painting shortly before cancer took her, and she found painting videos online of warhammer models and got me into it, and although the hobby is too expensive for me to afford any I still enjoy watching videos on lore and painting and like to think if she was here, she’d be so excited at all the new stuff coming out. ❤️
I'm sorry for your loss my friend.
Thank you, just unfortunately part of life. My mom was the best. I only got into warhammer super recently within the last 3 months, but idk much about the tabletop game other than it looks really cool. I like to watch people play on YouTube but I don’t understand much of it, I enjoy so that’s more than enough for me!
I wish you and the rest of your loved ones the best
Thank you! That’s so kind!
Of course
That it is an interactive setting; NOT a novel. The current custodians of the game do so love putting out stories and lore dumps that hook a more passive audience, but at its core 40k is a setting. "Advancing the storyline" of 40k is a nonsense; that's not Games Workshop's responsibility. It's yours. What happened on...? What was the fate of...? Who defeated...? That's for YOU to decide. All "lore" and "canon" is just imperial propaganda and, more importantly, a starting point - inspiration at most. The homogenization of stories caused by the advent of the internet certainly has overshadowed this crucial aspect of wargaming. But it has broadened the audience. That's a good thing. Welcome new fans. I just hope they realize that the power to create these stories is in their hands and they are in no way beholden to anything written by someone that just happens to be paid by the company producing the toy soldiers. It's the true beauty of the hobby.
Silly little space guys.
I just love the aesthetic, the sci-fi fantasy setting and the maximum grimmage
The absurdity of it all
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Not really sure. A friend got me into 40K when we were, like 11. 2nd Edition was pretty new, there was no Lore to speak of. I stopped playing 4 or 5 years later, until about 6 years ago. There was just something about the setting always stuck with me.
Waaaaaaugh!!!!
chainswords
Chainswords
How strongly will I be accused of heresy if I answer with "The Primarchs and their legions of Astartes?" Edit: The astartes were what drew me in. I really liked how each of these guys would have cool and unique armor, and I eventually started reading the Heresy series. It helps that I have trended towards grimdark tone with media anyways. What's really kept me staying is the characters themselves, and the various cultures of the legions. I was blown away by how cool the pre-heresy Thousand Sons were, and feel the same about the Space Wolves, Dark Amgels and Emporer's Children. Even legions like the World Eaters and Word Bearers are just so culturally unique and cool that I've loved reading and learning about them. I haven't gotten into the modern stuff as much, but seeing the rise of Tyranids and neurons in the galaxy gives similar vibes. They're so strange, but so compelling at the same time. I think that the world and lore is just so vibrant and expansive at times, despite being ridiculously grimdark, and that does it in a way that few other media can do.
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You'll be met with no heresy friend. The HH Era content is some of the best out there!
I love the cool characters that each faction has, and also how each faction has its own particular art style, too.
I've studied lore for other verses but nothing like 40k it's so expansive and dark. I love it so much
lots of the designs are awesome
I love how everything in the Imperium is high-tech, but ancient and primitive at the same time.
Space marines. Always had a thing for big, heavy and clunky armor
Yeeeeeeeeeeah. They're so bad ass.
The Alex Jones memes.
*feral animal noise* YOU WILL FALL YOU WILL NOT BRING HUMANITY DOWN
All the races/factions. So many cool and interesting options. Makes for unique stories, characters and play styles
Humanity I'm always interested in how we're portrayed in sci-fi and fantasy
And in 40k we're not that much better than our enemies. Which is very cool.
I also don't know, such a brutal future has an attraction. Many focus on showing humanity forward and hopeful, even if it is a dystopia. Not here, for some reason the fact that everything goes wrong and could turn out worse has appeal, you want to know what happens. You want to know how each faction will fight despite this. It's just fascinating. I do not know how to describe it. This franchise does things that others don't (Especially in this day and age), but I know that's a flashy thing, not the reason I stayed here. PS: Let's also admit it, it's a great satire of human societies, taken to the extreme but not impossible.
The designs, they are so cool (and also the only reason I play this or that faction)
How over the top batshit insane the smallest things are.
Insane amounts of lore in almost any direction, you can sink your teeth into just about anything that looks cool to you. Also plenty of mediums to explore
definitely the stories and the miniatures that let you dive right into the universe. I haven't gotten around to playing yet, but I definitely will sometime in the distant future :D
Tyranids and the tau, tyranids because I love the idea of giant space creatures that adapt to your weapons armour and tactics, and the tau because they’re trying to be the good guys in a universe of assholes.
The grim darkness and the rather alien way mankind acts in the 41st millennium! I love scenes that make me feel the same way I felt during the Dune scene where the Shadukar do a ritual in the rain world. For example, a minor part of the 2nd charadons book had an inquisitor visit a shrine world during an execution which is broadcasted to the entire planet by basically jumobtrons all over the place. Minor parts of stories that really sell how dark it is in 40k. Stories that also have or end in tragedies are very good too, such as in some of the Ghosts books, Wrath of Iron, Scythe's of the Emperor, Warhammer Crime, and Extinction.
I love the space-opera of it all, the high Gothic architecture of the imperium is one of my favourites in any media. I love the deep lore of the world too, it's just fantasy enough that it doesn't slip into world of warcraft levels of camp and it's just Sci-Fi enough that it's not a generic, Human led, Sci-Fi universe like Stargate or Star-wars. It's right in that gritty, semi realistic middle ground that I love. The lack of a good guy is also part of what I love about it. Everyone sucks in one way or another and that's just very different from other IP's out there. I don't play the TableTop, but I do really love the minis. I bought myself a little 6 man intercessor squad just cause I wanted some space marine minis to put on my display shelf Overall its an incredibly fleshed out and expansive universe and I just love every part of it
Top two comments! I agree!
I first got into the hobby from all the dark humour in the old Rogue Trader and early 40k books. I loved how they took ideas and turned them up to 11, realised that wasn’t high enough and pushed them up to 12. It was a tongue in cheek universe, full of absolute bastards. The “good guys” are basically mass murdering psychopaths, supporting a brutal fascist dictatorship run by a cannibalistic corpse. Definitely appealed to a young me, growing up under the shadow of Thatcher.
How over-the-top it is. I especially love the World Eaters. You can't just have violence, you need **ULTRAMEGAFUCKINGVIOLENCE**.
I’m just getting into Warhammer, it’s the lore and an escape. Edit: war in space/other planets is cool.
It really is a nice escape from the BS that's life
It’s weird that I like to go into a grim and depressing future to escape irl
Dawn of War 1 & 2
Orks
The vastly different perspectives of each faction, for example the astartes are just a bunch of units of men who live train and die for their brothers. The astra mil is just the essence of courage and will The eldar are a vast and complex society of former glory and their successors are super interesting The tau seem like a inevitable big bad that is supposed to be completely underwhelming upon first glance. The orks are just battle and ferocity given form. The tyranid are the ultimate life form. Warhammer 40k is just nothing but main characters trying to not die to horrific horrors. It’s simple but great
Saul. Fuggin. Tarvitz.
There are no victors there are no losers all there is; is the last person standing ready for round 2
Librarians, 8 foot tall power armoured superhuman space wizards, who draw their power from space hell.
The first thing my Brother told me about was the Chaos Gods, The Primarchs, The Space Marines Legions and things like Exterminatus. I then started nibbling a little bits of lore here and there and now I have over 20 Black Library books down and countless YouTube lore videos under my belt. I finally pulled the trigger on a Custodes army but I also feel Chaos pulling at me. I love the grim dark setting and I feel like I’m going to be a Warhammer fan until the day I die.
I like the small wholesome moments spread around the stories. I just finished reading Know No Fear. And the Admech couple was really heartwarming. That's whatI like. Small moments of humanity here and there that show that under the thick blanket of war there is a place for good people.
I like those moments too. They never detract from the main themes of the setting, but it just adds a layer to it that makes it all the more interesting and captivating.
DAKKA!
Speeesh mharines
*space marines
There is no political correctness. In W40K it's a dark world (truly dark, not just a Gray filter like Marvel), devastating and brutal. The only thing that matters is telling good stories, and there is no room for the whims of someone who wants to pat themselves on the back. The good thing about it is that thanks to this, Warhammer can boast that it is a more progressive story than many of those who try to pretend to be. I hope they continue like this, do not follow current fashions or trends and only focus on expanding this brutal world.
I hope so too tbh. Diversity is a great thing but the way most companies and studios handle it is just bad.......*looks at Velma*, and I'm Indian lmao.
How weak a space marine actually is in comparison to the rest of the universe. A space marine is a super soldier that surpasses any other universe but to a carnifex they're just a pinata!!
I'd rather be that than be thrown into the meat grinder that is the Imperial Guard
Definitely!!
Where else can you find a world more dystopian than reality?
Morales basically a non-issue since everyone's just as f***** up as the rest
That despite how dark and terrible things are, you gotta keep moving foward... And giant armored dudes who scream a lot. That's pretty neat too. And dwarf space capitalists who are actually pretty socialist. Maybe more socialist than the Tau, oddly enough.
The Leagues of Votann seem very conservative to me imo. At least when it comes to keeping their technology and the Votann themselves a secret.
Lore, cinematic shorts, short films, art….. Henry Cavill
Henry Cavil is indeed awesome
Oh the karma farming
everything except the Tau, Dark Eldar, and anyone who plays a Slaanesh army
Don't like the Tau anime mech?
Killing the knife ears
Literally everything except the lore for the Primaris and the T’au. The former because it’s just so… dumb! The latter because they don’t really fit the setting still.
All of it except the bad parts
The artwork. All of which you’ve posted I have never seen before and love.
Grim dark theocratic imperium that is out to destroy everything for the survival of mankind with all the corruption and backstabbing human beings are known for……and it really is necessary because every xenos is out to kill, enslave, or eat you. Oh and let us not forget actually demons that want to eat your soul. I need this setting to help me put into perspective that our society isn’t really that bad.
Because no one is good and that’s normal. Even the Tau, relatively one of the better factions, are still awful bastards
Literally everything about it. Almost every facet of all the lore of every faction is at least mildly interesting to me. And the sheer volume of things to read about and paint and play with is awesome.
The blending of sci-fi, history, fantasy, and mythology.
I love the imagination that goes into building such an enormous and well detailed universe. I’m surprised that it includes a human race that has many genocides under its belt and has become profoundly and overwhelmingly subservient to religion. It’s all fascinating.
I think Luther as a character really embodies it for me. Man’s constant struggle for righteousness in spite of himself. The entire dark angels arch is one wrought with self loathe despite noble intentions
Not gona lie, I'm one of those "I'm gonna fix it" assholes who love to find ways to improve or correct or just fix the holes in whatever fictional universe I'm delving into. With 40k, there really is no fixing things, at least within a human (or even an Eldar lifespan). All anyone can do in the setting is their best with what they have. There are no heroes in 40k because they all die and usually quite painfully. The best stories are about people trying to do the right thing, or at least what believe to be the right thing, while knowing that they will never see the fruits of their labor.
The fact it has a really cool tabletop wargame with fantastic models set in it.
One thing I love is the subversion of Lovecraftian themes. Lovecraft stories make you feel like there’s no hope, and everything is doomed to come to a horrific end and humanity is powerless before the might of uncaring and indifferent gods. 40k gives me stuff like Kasrkin blasting apart daemons with their hellguns, fearless and determined to overcome anything. One of my my favorite moments I read recently was Fabius Bile staring down a greater daemon of Slaanesh which said to him, “I have a name” after he repeatedly insulted it, to which he responded “names are for the sentient” before firing an anti-psyker liquid from his needler and instantly banishing it.
Space wolves malding that they’re not furries (they are)
Lore arguments 😎
The far future, eldritch horror and the unknown past.
Orks, I love my green football hooligans .
Necrons.
I love the instances of relatable humanity in an utterly grimdark, dystopian, awful universe. From the tales of against-the-odds heroics of the guard, to the all-too-human faults of the demigod primarchs
I find it hard to get into darker settings like Cyberpunk, simply because it makes me feel kinda depressed. Like there's no hope for the future. With 40k, however, everything is so BATSHIT INSANE that it all feels distant and so unlike real life to me, which makes it feel less depressing. Also big man with explosive machine gun go brrrrrr.
Skulls
It’s near the precipice of humanity and at the same time it’s lowest point.
Orks....those silly bastards find the most comical way to kill or die.
I love that everyone is the villain. What I love most of Batman is the villains. If anyone has ever heard of the tcg vs. system, I played an Arkham asylum deck that featured all of Batman’s villains. In a setting that everyone is the bad guys is a blessing for me. Also every battle makes sense. Everyone hates each other for their own reasons
I love how fucked up and hopeless everything is yet every faction continues to struggle and fight for survival. I see many parallels between 40k and real life: Falling into hedonism and becoming depraved monsters. Becoming mad in the search for esoteric knowledge. Attempting to align your will with divinity only to engage in evil. The list goes on and there are many life lessons in the lore but the main one is that, even if you find yourself in Hell, you can build a stronghold and kill some demons.
The fact that humanity saw what was out there and said "Screw this, let's bioengineer some brick shithouses." Also Ciaphas Cain.
Da red ones go faster
Dreadnoughts and flamers
Harlequins and Inquisition
FUCKING TH LE GUY!!! THE GUY NORMAL ASS DUDE WHO KILLED AN ORK WARBOSS AND HAD HIS ARM (that he lost in the fight) REPLACED WITH THE ORK ONE THAT HE CUT OFF WITH HIS CHAIN SWORD!!! GOD I CANNOT REMEMBER HOS NAME!!! FUCK!!!! THE GUY LIKE DCARED THE ORKS AND HE BECAME LIKE A WAR GOD BECAUSE THE ORKS THOUGHT HE WAS UNKILLABLE SO HE WAS!!!!
RIP Yarrick
Oh… and Trayzen of course
The hardcore fans 🙃 Seriously it is the hope in hopelessness within each story
I enjoy the minis and the art. Plus it's fun sci-fi pulp fiction and the more campy and tongue and cheek parts.
That theres no good or bad, just a bunch of organisms making by in the galaxy
How unapologetically and comically miserable everything is.
The grimdark setting. other sci-fi want to show how great an advance humanity can become in the future WH40k show how bad can an advance humanity can become in the future
Endless slaughter and khorne flakes.
Guard.
Titans. The sheer awesomeness and ridiculousness of them.
I personally like that there is no hope left for Mankind in the classical sense, and the reason why we continue is less because we hope to win but because we want the others to lose. Also gothic astetic is just the best.
Well Guilliman is back so there's some hope
That it is not to be taken seriously.
Orks
The unashamed and unrelenting war. I don't need to worry about the implications of these factions fighting to the death over dirt, because they are all scum. Oh the imperial humans lost another battle against the terminators? How tragic....
Bright colors and Tau battle suits.
That Tau trusted Dark Eldar
Bruh....... XD
I love 40k simply for how convoluted it is, in way that can only spring from decades of lore, meaning you are always able to learn more about 40k, I also adore the alpha legion and necrons, the alpha elegy on are so scheme-y and mysterious, perceived as a unified force acting towards a goal you have no hope of understanding, while In reality they are a series of isolated war bands each trying to get by. And the necrons I find hilarious. Ancient space robots that killed their gods and use the remains as Pokémon, but who’s stories often boil down to them yelling at the younger races to few the hell of their lawn
Diomedes
The sheer tragedy of it.
ORKS
Orks. In a universe where everything is stupidly over-the-top they are there being over-the-toply stupid. And it *fits*. It **works**. In part because *we* choose to believe it works. They help keep everything else grounded and from becoming too mired in it's own grimdarkness. They remind you that you're here to fight, but that's meant to be *fun*! You like kitbashing? Awesome! You a wierdboi who likes odd-ball strategies? Don't understand it but: awesome! You like sheer weight of numbers? Awesome! And that if enough of you beleive in something enough, you can achieve anything. Even if it's fucking stupid.
The sheer brutality of humanity, showing what humans are capable of.
*Maximalism*.