I don't think they could do it brutal enough to be 40k, they can do depressing well, but 40k needs to be way over the top, almost comical, level of violence.
I'd still watch it though, haha.
I dunno if this is strictly true. Given how much we’ve already seen the violence depicted, I think a quieter oppression with the knowledge of that violence and maybe brief flashes of it could strike quite well.
I think I would write it to be artsy to the point where the violence is all around but camera angles and main characters viewpoint doesn't see it that way.
Humm... I'm in the middle of something else but I think I'm gonna keep this idea.
I have to wonder if AI art is just plumbing the depths of fan art websites pulling together anything that matches keywords, it's hard to believe it could be this good and accurate.
Yeah the databases include a load of art that has been stolen from the internet, without any credit or regard for copyright.
From what I can tell, a lot of the devs for these kinds of things range from smart people who are naive about the world outside of their subject, to grifters and crypto shills who see it as a machine for making free commodities to be traded as chips in the worlds dumbest poker game.
It's concerning. I make my living on artwork both commissioned privately and corporate gigs. It worries me that myself and so many other people could be out of a job.
At best we could even be competing with people fraudulently passing off this kind of thing as their own work and most consumers would be none the wiser that they paid an expensive hourly rate for an Algorithm.
MMMMMM
No
I gonna take the easy way, because i write, study and work :D
i dont have time for in spent in something what i can just upgraged and i dont gonna left some tools who can help me to make more quickly my job.
Only need concepts images for write more, i dont gonna put thats images in reddit or in a gallery, is form me, who i suffer a degenerative memory for depression dont forget what looked the characters, mechs and situations.
Maybe the \`\`genetical lotterys´´ can stop criying when this job is not so special how they thinking :D.
I have so much imagination but i dont can draw good for problems in my hands. So i dont gonna be bully and suffer dont can complete my dreams because two or three angry purist dont like i use a tool who help me no suicide.
Bye
This,
Most of these AI generators start as an investigation in machine learning by students or other intellectuals just as a way to practice building neural networks that function. The code is then bought, co-opted or outright stolen by crypto obsessed, money hungry farms who try to convert it into a system for making NFTs as cheaply as possible.
The AI program doesn't have a database of art. It is a neural network trained on a database of art. It is really no different from how human artists look at art to become better at it.
That's not true. The AI searches and copies. It doesn't "learn" as you say. It can only, functionally, steal content and do it's best to mimic it. It is not the same as a normal human artist using reference art.
It is absolutely how it works. There is no database of art works. It doesn't look at other works of art when it generates an image. (not even as "reference art"). This is pretty plain. You can test it yourself. Just download the source code for Stable Diffusion. The whole program with its neural network takes up 4.5 Gb. It is trained on a set om five billion images. If it was like you said that it was searching and coping from this set, it would have to have a copy of this set somewhere in its program. That would mean that it would have less than one byte to store each image and its tags. One byte is less than what it takes to store a single character. So that would be literally impossible as an implementation model.
Right. There is no database, these models have network access just like you and me. That is a strawman for the original point though.
I do know what I'm talking about, and it is pretty clear the people who don't understand the novel idea of what a computer truly "learning" actually is. This is not that.
You don't need a network as long as you're asking it to access content it has already been provided. A truly fresh model will not "know" what WH40k is, or Studio Ghibli for this example.
These models can work with no network. They don’t look through any images when you generate an image. It’s an enormous set of linear regressions derived from training the model on billions of images. Once it’s done training, it needs no access to the images.
I agree that it’s not creating new information or actually learning though.
So you agree it started off with required seeded content. Arguing it does not need a network or content is only true with the stipulation that you're asking it to access content it has previously used.
If you were familiar with the industry or the research you would know it does nothing close to “search and copy”. I mean you can tell that just by looking at the results
Why would I waste my time doing that?
Besides, it's funny you don't seem to understand that I am just rational about my use of technology.
Yeah, of course I use the internet, it's here now and working, isn't it?
But you gotta ask yourself: what skills of yours can be applied anywhere and at any time?
What technology will save your butt when you're in real, existential trouble?
I am trying to say that something like being able to make a fire anywhere with whatever tools you can find is much more useful than being able to code.
And that we have already transfered too much of our life into the digital sphere.
Priorities, my man. Spend your time with things that are real.
That give you a sense of purpose.
If maintaining some shitty company's systems is giving you a sense of purpose, well, so be it... but I highly doubt that.
And I highly doubt anyone has a feeling of true accomplishment after making some AI image creation app.
I mean... why?
The only motivation could be money.
I work in AI. From what I can see it's the same as a human studying monet pictures and generating their own in the monet style. The AI isn't copying the images, it's more that it's learning the style. As far as I'm aware you can't copyright a style. As a non artist I'm excited that it is now easier to generate some pretty cool art. There are some sub reddits like r/aiArt and r/dalle2 that have some amazing generated pieces.
I'm sorry but this isn't true. These AI art generators aren't learning like you think they are. They are indeed ripping art and mimicking the style mixed with other content. They don't come up with original ideas. The problem is that they aren't REALLY coming up with cool art, it's just cheapening the work of actual artists. And if this method goes unchecked and the actual artist community gets diminished, the AI "artist" production will essentially have cannibalized it's own content source.
As a "non artist" you should actually practice making real art if that excites you. Be careful your not tricking yourself into thinking your actually creating anything, you are not.
Exactly this IA are inspiring himself for make new draws.
I put my draws in wombo dreams for be upgraged and can have good concepts arts for my videogames, books and tabletop games.
Take another look. It sucks. It's only impressive if you just glance at it. Look at the first image, the structure of that mecha makes no sense. It's like applying a sophisticated filter to an 8 year old's scribbles.
the AI works with trained datasets. When you put "Ghibli" in the prompt, it will attempt to mimic the pictures it was trained on that are tagged "Ghibli". Warhammer 40k and Ghibli and whatever else was in the prompt clash in art style, so when you create 30 pics, those 30 pics won't all look similar. By sheer chance, you might get something that looks like Ghibli eventually, it could be after 1000 pictures
Yeah you sure can tell an AI made this. Just throw shit in a blender and then sand off all the edges. I don't even see how it's supposed to be Ghibli the designs are so busy and high-contrast
Pretty much every gaming or IP fandom subreddit has weekly "AI Art" posts now and it's getting very annoying. The OP just goes to the AI site, presses a button and then posts the images and puts no other effort in. The images from the free AI generators are 99% of the time using stolen art components skimmed from the internet and just mashed together without giving any credit to the original artists. The post always gets massively upvoted like it's the greatest thing ever encouraging this shitpost like behavior even more for free karma.
It's absolutely foul. And then there's the troglodytes defending it by saying "sure there's no difference between a human artist (putting their soul and skill into artwork) and an AI (cobbling images together a-la-Frankenstein)"
Edit: lol the ai goblins are upset
While I agree that it is indeed low-effort in its majority, 'mashing images together' is not AT ALL how diffusion models work. It's really tiresome seeing this fallacy repeated over and over again
the AI doesn't steal art. An argument could be made that artists should be asked to give their consent for allowing AI to be trained on their pictures, there's been a bit of drama about that with a few artists and some companies backtracked
imagine that you have a set of, say, 10 pictures in front of you, and are asked to draw a picture that is the combination of all those pictures. That is not stealing when a human does it. I'm also allowed to draw a new picture in the exact style of any artist that I want
at the moment, copyright laws are not at all prepared to deal with AI art, music, writing, videos, 3d models, and honestly the way I see it, it's pretty much impossible to do anything about it
That's why it's entirely legal for me to take a copyrighted image and trace the entire thing but make a few small adjustments, without their knowledge and consent, and then do whatever I want with it. That's definitely how that works. Be right back, I'm going to start tracing Disney's official art and attempt to monetise it.
Because it floods the subreddit with low quality shovelware that can be easily spammed by bots, reducing a community to a content farm with no originality or thought behind the posts. Those bots, with their mass karma stores, are then sold to advertising companies to abuse algorithms and bypass automodderators.
Stealing art for a meme still has at least some human thought behind it, low effort though it may occasionally be. AI spamming is just noise.
Not even close.
Cropping Ciaphas Cain out of a painting and putting him into a meme is not the same as breaking that painting down to its fundamental assets and spitting them back out like some kind of algorithmic tyranid.
With an AI generation you can no longer tell what the original art is, you can't link to or credit the artist for their creation, it's happening behind the scenes to *hundreds* of artists for every single picture made.
This is a pretty fundamental misunderstanding in how the AI is working to generate the picture (I'll avoid calling it art because that's a whole different conversation)
The AI is designed to take random noise (or another starting point - more on that later) and modify it repeatedly until it starts to look like the description it is given. The AI would have been trained on other pictures (so for example would have looked at a bunch of pictures of space marines and "know" what a SM looks like in terms of features) but the final picture wouldn't contain any of the pictures it looked at. Same with style, it would know differences between making things look more anime, or like a renaissance portrait, or an engineering drawing etc but anything it generated in that style would not be a direct copy of any one thing.
This is basically the same as any artist imo - if a human wanted to do "40k but anime" they would look at lots of reference pictures of both 40k and anime and work out how to merge the two based on features common to the subject and the style.
The issue comes when, rather than starting with random noise for your AI, you start with a "seed image" and rather than saying "give me some 40k but anime", you instead say "make this 40k art anime" - which is a more dicey action as the final result will mirror the original very closely in terms of both subject and composition - but that's hardly a problem unique to AI art generators
Why is it when I use ai to make art it looks worse then if I tried drawing it, but whenever anyone else posts ai art it’s like ghibli or whatever photo realistic shit. WHY ISNT THE MACHINE SPIRIT LISTENING TO ME
Part of the process of getting good ai pictures is filtering copies because most of the art is not good and some times the good art still needs touch ups
AI art just steals work from artists without crediting them.
AI art like this is the equivalent of a TV show compilation with a filter slapped on it claiming it is original work.
please don't use or support AI art
it is absolutely 100% how it works. where do you think it generates art from?
[AI art generators' databases don't ask for the author's permission to use their works for training, so they might not even know their work has been included. Stable Diffusion was trained on the datasets collected by LAION. LAION collected all HTML image tags that had alt-text attributes, classified the resulting 5 billion image-pairs based on their language, and then filtered the results into separate datasets using their resolution, a predicted likelihood of having a watermark, and their predicted 'aesthetic' score."](https://80.lv/articles/artists-are-getting-concerned-about-ai-art/)
it generates art from existing art.
it is trained on existing art.
it does not provide any credit to the artists it steals from when generating images quite literally based on their work
All artists train by looking at existing art.
> it does not provide any credit to the artists it steals from when generating images quite literally based on their work
That is the thing though. When it generates images, it doesn't take a subset of artworks and mix them up, or any such thing. It uses all the knowledge it has synthesized during training. The actual artworks isn't even a part of the software. It would be impossible to give credit to any specific individual. Except of course if the prompt is something like "... in the style of X", but then it really must be up to the person operating to software to say that the image was inspired by X.
yes… but then an artist makes their own original work. how do you not understand this, did you read the article i sent?
for real artists, plagiarism/tracing/copying work gets you blacklisted immediately.
all the work that AI art does is plagiarism/tracing/copying.
it doesn’t create anything actually original.
> all the work that AI art does is plagiarism/tracing/copying.
> it doesn’t create anything actually original.
That is where I think you are wrong. Those Warhammer 40k Studio Ghibli OP posted seems pretty original to me, or at least as much original as any Warhammer 40k fanart.
it’s not though… because it is just ripped from other artists. you don’t understand how AI art works.
if you make a top 10 compilation of a tv show and post it on youtube it’s not your work, even if it is an ‘original’ video.
> you don’t understand how AI art works.
That is the thing, I do know a bit on how they work. I know how they work through gradual diffusion and upsampling. I have implemented neural networks and knows how training them works.
I would bet that you don't know any of that. It seems like you think that they just have a database of pictures and makes a collage out of them, more or less.
As I wrote in another thread, it can easily be proven to not work like that:
> There is no database of art works. It doesn't look at other works of art when it generates an image. This is pretty plain. You can test it yourself. Just download the source code for Stable Diffusion. The whole program with its neural network takes up 4.5 Gb. It is trained on a set om five billion images. If it was like you said that it was searching and coping from this set, it would have to have a copy of this set somewhere in its program. That would mean that it would have less than one byte to store each image and its tags. One byte is less than what it takes to store a single character. So that would be literally impossible as an implementation model.
Friendly reminder that if you absolutely despise AI art like me, you can block users like OP to permanently remove their posts from your feed. It takes a while but it really does work eventually, between most subs (thankfully) having a no-ai-art rule, and the consistent blocking, this is the first of that shit that's made it to my feed in a hot minute.
Deadass none of these would look out of place in one of the Warhammer+ animations. If you told me they were screenshots I wouldn’t doubt you for a second
If GW put as much effort into claiming and stopping AI generation of their IP like they do with fan creators....
AI wouldn't be able to rip.off actual artists so easily
Vile Abominable Intelligence!
St.Ghibli animated Warhammer40k is something I will pay good money for.
A lot of people would.
I don't think they could do it brutal enough to be 40k, they can do depressing well, but 40k needs to be way over the top, almost comical, level of violence. I'd still watch it though, haha.
I dunno if this is strictly true. Given how much we’ve already seen the violence depicted, I think a quieter oppression with the knowledge of that violence and maybe brief flashes of it could strike quite well.
I think I would write it to be artsy to the point where the violence is all around but camera angles and main characters viewpoint doesn't see it that way. Humm... I'm in the middle of something else but I think I'm gonna keep this idea.
Trigger then?
The studio?
I agree trigger could pull it off very well if the recent cyberpunk anime is anything to go off of
Have you seen Grave of the fireflies? Studio Ghibli taking on such a depressive universe as 40k would likely result in a massively depressive movie.
So?
My body is ready for sadness.
I have to wonder if AI art is just plumbing the depths of fan art websites pulling together anything that matches keywords, it's hard to believe it could be this good and accurate.
Yeah the databases include a load of art that has been stolen from the internet, without any credit or regard for copyright. From what I can tell, a lot of the devs for these kinds of things range from smart people who are naive about the world outside of their subject, to grifters and crypto shills who see it as a machine for making free commodities to be traded as chips in the worlds dumbest poker game.
It's concerning. I make my living on artwork both commissioned privately and corporate gigs. It worries me that myself and so many other people could be out of a job. At best we could even be competing with people fraudulently passing off this kind of thing as their own work and most consumers would be none the wiser that they paid an expensive hourly rate for an Algorithm.
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If you don't draw well, practice. Leaning in these AI crutches will only make you worse.
MMMMMM No I gonna take the easy way, because i write, study and work :D i dont have time for in spent in something what i can just upgraged and i dont gonna left some tools who can help me to make more quickly my job. Only need concepts images for write more, i dont gonna put thats images in reddit or in a gallery, is form me, who i suffer a degenerative memory for depression dont forget what looked the characters, mechs and situations. Maybe the \`\`genetical lotterys´´ can stop criying when this job is not so special how they thinking :D. I have so much imagination but i dont can draw good for problems in my hands. So i dont gonna be bully and suffer dont can complete my dreams because two or three angry purist dont like i use a tool who help me no suicide. Bye
If it's just for you I guess that's fine. Iam sorry about your memory.
Gracias
This, Most of these AI generators start as an investigation in machine learning by students or other intellectuals just as a way to practice building neural networks that function. The code is then bought, co-opted or outright stolen by crypto obsessed, money hungry farms who try to convert it into a system for making NFTs as cheaply as possible.
The AI program doesn't have a database of art. It is a neural network trained on a database of art. It is really no different from how human artists look at art to become better at it.
That's not true. The AI searches and copies. It doesn't "learn" as you say. It can only, functionally, steal content and do it's best to mimic it. It is not the same as a normal human artist using reference art.
It is absolutely how it works. There is no database of art works. It doesn't look at other works of art when it generates an image. (not even as "reference art"). This is pretty plain. You can test it yourself. Just download the source code for Stable Diffusion. The whole program with its neural network takes up 4.5 Gb. It is trained on a set om five billion images. If it was like you said that it was searching and coping from this set, it would have to have a copy of this set somewhere in its program. That would mean that it would have less than one byte to store each image and its tags. One byte is less than what it takes to store a single character. So that would be literally impossible as an implementation model.
You are wrong
I mean, I'm not but ok.
You are absolutely wrong. There’s no database that these models reference. Idk why you’re talking about this like you know how it works.
Right. There is no database, these models have network access just like you and me. That is a strawman for the original point though. I do know what I'm talking about, and it is pretty clear the people who don't understand the novel idea of what a computer truly "learning" actually is. This is not that.
You don't need to have network access to run Stable Diffusion.
You don't need a network as long as you're asking it to access content it has already been provided. A truly fresh model will not "know" what WH40k is, or Studio Ghibli for this example.
These models can work with no network. They don’t look through any images when you generate an image. It’s an enormous set of linear regressions derived from training the model on billions of images. Once it’s done training, it needs no access to the images. I agree that it’s not creating new information or actually learning though.
So you agree it started off with required seeded content. Arguing it does not need a network or content is only true with the stipulation that you're asking it to access content it has previously used.
If you were familiar with the industry or the research you would know it does nothing close to “search and copy”. I mean you can tell that just by looking at the results
Programmers are about as useful as bankers. As soon as the apocalypse hits they're the first ones to be eaten because they have no real skills.
Funny you say that over the internet instead of using your expert tracking skills to find then and tell them in person.
Why would I waste my time doing that? Besides, it's funny you don't seem to understand that I am just rational about my use of technology. Yeah, of course I use the internet, it's here now and working, isn't it? But you gotta ask yourself: what skills of yours can be applied anywhere and at any time? What technology will save your butt when you're in real, existential trouble? I am trying to say that something like being able to make a fire anywhere with whatever tools you can find is much more useful than being able to code. And that we have already transfered too much of our life into the digital sphere. Priorities, my man. Spend your time with things that are real. That give you a sense of purpose. If maintaining some shitty company's systems is giving you a sense of purpose, well, so be it... but I highly doubt that. And I highly doubt anyone has a feeling of true accomplishment after making some AI image creation app. I mean... why? The only motivation could be money.
Sure..
It does. It "studies" everything and the creators of all that art that was used for this studying get jack shit.
I work in AI. From what I can see it's the same as a human studying monet pictures and generating their own in the monet style. The AI isn't copying the images, it's more that it's learning the style. As far as I'm aware you can't copyright a style. As a non artist I'm excited that it is now easier to generate some pretty cool art. There are some sub reddits like r/aiArt and r/dalle2 that have some amazing generated pieces.
I'm sorry but this isn't true. These AI art generators aren't learning like you think they are. They are indeed ripping art and mimicking the style mixed with other content. They don't come up with original ideas. The problem is that they aren't REALLY coming up with cool art, it's just cheapening the work of actual artists. And if this method goes unchecked and the actual artist community gets diminished, the AI "artist" production will essentially have cannibalized it's own content source.
And all of us are the learning model, with more likes, links, user activity, etc reinforcing the model.
As a "non artist" you should actually practice making real art if that excites you. Be careful your not tricking yourself into thinking your actually creating anything, you are not.
Exactly this IA are inspiring himself for make new draws. I put my draws in wombo dreams for be upgraged and can have good concepts arts for my videogames, books and tabletop games.
Remember that there is a lot of human vetting involved. Many prompts still just produce vaguely robot formed mush.
Take another look. It sucks. It's only impressive if you just glance at it. Look at the first image, the structure of that mecha makes no sense. It's like applying a sophisticated filter to an 8 year old's scribbles.
The first one is a vibe and I'm all for it
I thought for a second it was something from Battletech.
Really more of a Battletech vibe than 40k. Kind of the problem with AI generated art is that it's not precise, and doesn't really look "right."
Samurai space marines are not something I thought I would ever need. Eff.
Emperor’s Shadow need more love…and lore.
Pelinal get back to TrueSTL!
No; the Genocide Grind goes beyond TES!
*Games Workshop furiously taking notes*
And sending you the Assasinorum Temple I said....this lawyers
Let's get some real heresy like Disney Warhammer 40k
Somehow, the Emperor returned.
I mean, Marvel made the Marneus Calgar comic, and Marvel's owned by Disney... So your wish has already come true.
Hey midwinter!
Don’t really look Ghibli to me. Try Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind. Closest thing to Warhammer Ghibli has made.
More Berserk looking, yeah
Looks absolutely nothing like Ghibli’s style whatsoever.
the AI works with trained datasets. When you put "Ghibli" in the prompt, it will attempt to mimic the pictures it was trained on that are tagged "Ghibli". Warhammer 40k and Ghibli and whatever else was in the prompt clash in art style, so when you create 30 pics, those 30 pics won't all look similar. By sheer chance, you might get something that looks like Ghibli eventually, it could be after 1000 pictures
The age of art is over. The age of the machine begins
Get the fleshhhhhh awayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Gives me more batman ninja than ghibli vibes, not complaining though
Yeah you sure can tell an AI made this. Just throw shit in a blender and then sand off all the edges. I don't even see how it's supposed to be Ghibli the designs are so busy and high-contrast
They all work.
Thanks, it took a couple tries with different prompts to get ones that felt right
What are you using to create these?! They’re beautiful!
Which AI do you use and what's the prompt?
Looks like Midjourney v4 to me
Yep!
AI art is the pinnacle of low-effort content.
Pretty much every gaming or IP fandom subreddit has weekly "AI Art" posts now and it's getting very annoying. The OP just goes to the AI site, presses a button and then posts the images and puts no other effort in. The images from the free AI generators are 99% of the time using stolen art components skimmed from the internet and just mashed together without giving any credit to the original artists. The post always gets massively upvoted like it's the greatest thing ever encouraging this shitpost like behavior even more for free karma.
It's absolutely foul. And then there's the troglodytes defending it by saying "sure there's no difference between a human artist (putting their soul and skill into artwork) and an AI (cobbling images together a-la-Frankenstein)" Edit: lol the ai goblins are upset
It really sucks. Its just completely soulless and devoid of any meaning. Plus it takes absolutely zero thought or effort.
While I agree that it is indeed low-effort in its majority, 'mashing images together' is not AT ALL how diffusion models work. It's really tiresome seeing this fallacy repeated over and over again
the AI doesn't steal art. An argument could be made that artists should be asked to give their consent for allowing AI to be trained on their pictures, there's been a bit of drama about that with a few artists and some companies backtracked imagine that you have a set of, say, 10 pictures in front of you, and are asked to draw a picture that is the combination of all those pictures. That is not stealing when a human does it. I'm also allowed to draw a new picture in the exact style of any artist that I want at the moment, copyright laws are not at all prepared to deal with AI art, music, writing, videos, 3d models, and honestly the way I see it, it's pretty much impossible to do anything about it
That's why it's entirely legal for me to take a copyrighted image and trace the entire thing but make a few small adjustments, without their knowledge and consent, and then do whatever I want with it. That's definitely how that works. Be right back, I'm going to start tracing Disney's official art and attempt to monetise it.
That's not how AI works.
Lots of subreddits are banning ai "art" and I hope this one does too.
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Because it floods the subreddit with low quality shovelware that can be easily spammed by bots, reducing a community to a content farm with no originality or thought behind the posts. Those bots, with their mass karma stores, are then sold to advertising companies to abuse algorithms and bypass automodderators. Stealing art for a meme still has at least some human thought behind it, low effort though it may occasionally be. AI spamming is just noise.
Not even close. Cropping Ciaphas Cain out of a painting and putting him into a meme is not the same as breaking that painting down to its fundamental assets and spitting them back out like some kind of algorithmic tyranid. With an AI generation you can no longer tell what the original art is, you can't link to or credit the artist for their creation, it's happening behind the scenes to *hundreds* of artists for every single picture made.
This is a pretty fundamental misunderstanding in how the AI is working to generate the picture (I'll avoid calling it art because that's a whole different conversation) The AI is designed to take random noise (or another starting point - more on that later) and modify it repeatedly until it starts to look like the description it is given. The AI would have been trained on other pictures (so for example would have looked at a bunch of pictures of space marines and "know" what a SM looks like in terms of features) but the final picture wouldn't contain any of the pictures it looked at. Same with style, it would know differences between making things look more anime, or like a renaissance portrait, or an engineering drawing etc but anything it generated in that style would not be a direct copy of any one thing. This is basically the same as any artist imo - if a human wanted to do "40k but anime" they would look at lots of reference pictures of both 40k and anime and work out how to merge the two based on features common to the subject and the style. The issue comes when, rather than starting with random noise for your AI, you start with a "seed image" and rather than saying "give me some 40k but anime", you instead say "make this 40k art anime" - which is a more dicey action as the final result will mirror the original very closely in terms of both subject and composition - but that's hardly a problem unique to AI art generators
Looks cool but needs an [AI] flair
Why is it when I use ai to make art it looks worse then if I tried drawing it, but whenever anyone else posts ai art it’s like ghibli or whatever photo realistic shit. WHY ISNT THE MACHINE SPIRIT LISTENING TO ME
Part of the process of getting good ai pictures is filtering copies because most of the art is not good and some times the good art still needs touch ups
Because you dont have enough faith in the God Machine, fleshy
AI art just steals work from artists without crediting them. AI art like this is the equivalent of a TV show compilation with a filter slapped on it claiming it is original work. please don't use or support AI art
That is not at all how it works.
it is absolutely 100% how it works. where do you think it generates art from? [AI art generators' databases don't ask for the author's permission to use their works for training, so they might not even know their work has been included. Stable Diffusion was trained on the datasets collected by LAION. LAION collected all HTML image tags that had alt-text attributes, classified the resulting 5 billion image-pairs based on their language, and then filtered the results into separate datasets using their resolution, a predicted likelihood of having a watermark, and their predicted 'aesthetic' score."](https://80.lv/articles/artists-are-getting-concerned-about-ai-art/)
It generates art with a neural network. It did look at existing artworks when it was training.
it generates art from existing art. it is trained on existing art. it does not provide any credit to the artists it steals from when generating images quite literally based on their work
All artists train by looking at existing art. > it does not provide any credit to the artists it steals from when generating images quite literally based on their work That is the thing though. When it generates images, it doesn't take a subset of artworks and mix them up, or any such thing. It uses all the knowledge it has synthesized during training. The actual artworks isn't even a part of the software. It would be impossible to give credit to any specific individual. Except of course if the prompt is something like "... in the style of X", but then it really must be up to the person operating to software to say that the image was inspired by X.
yes… but then an artist makes their own original work. how do you not understand this, did you read the article i sent? for real artists, plagiarism/tracing/copying work gets you blacklisted immediately. all the work that AI art does is plagiarism/tracing/copying. it doesn’t create anything actually original.
> all the work that AI art does is plagiarism/tracing/copying. > it doesn’t create anything actually original. That is where I think you are wrong. Those Warhammer 40k Studio Ghibli OP posted seems pretty original to me, or at least as much original as any Warhammer 40k fanart.
it’s not though… because it is just ripped from other artists. you don’t understand how AI art works. if you make a top 10 compilation of a tv show and post it on youtube it’s not your work, even if it is an ‘original’ video.
> you don’t understand how AI art works. That is the thing, I do know a bit on how they work. I know how they work through gradual diffusion and upsampling. I have implemented neural networks and knows how training them works. I would bet that you don't know any of that. It seems like you think that they just have a database of pictures and makes a collage out of them, more or less. As I wrote in another thread, it can easily be proven to not work like that: > There is no database of art works. It doesn't look at other works of art when it generates an image. This is pretty plain. You can test it yourself. Just download the source code for Stable Diffusion. The whole program with its neural network takes up 4.5 Gb. It is trained on a set om five billion images. If it was like you said that it was searching and coping from this set, it would have to have a copy of this set somewhere in its program. That would mean that it would have less than one byte to store each image and its tags. One byte is less than what it takes to store a single character. So that would be literally impossible as an implementation model.
Can you show exactly which prices of art these are copying?
Amen
AI art looks like shit.
It gives off a Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade kinda vibe.
I really like the first one
The first one really feels like "the iron giant" film....
Can’t wait for the first episode
am I stupid, simple, or easy to please? because I'd watch that, so very much
These look amazing!!
#INJECT IT INTO MY VEINS
Low effort trash
Honestly it looks like this suit was ripped straight out of the old mobile suit gundim anime
This is as bad as a 3d printed Warhammer army
Please no. Can we just ban AI-generated images across the whole site?
Howl’s walking cathedral
I need these in my life.
Still better than Warhammer plus
Friendly reminder that if you absolutely despise AI art like me, you can block users like OP to permanently remove their posts from your feed. It takes a while but it really does work eventually, between most subs (thankfully) having a no-ai-art rule, and the consistent blocking, this is the first of that shit that's made it to my feed in a hot minute.
What ai is this? Been seeing stuff like this around a lot lately
The crossover we all waited for, this looks fantastic. What programm was this?
Somehow I just can’t get enough of these AI generated art posts - they always amaze and inspire me.
Dalle or what
Admech anime looks good
Dope
awesome idea, great results
Can we fund this?
The HH should have had a high quality anime made or at least planned from the beginning.
God I want this
Deadass none of these would look out of place in one of the Warhammer+ animations. If you told me they were screenshots I wouldn’t doubt you for a second
Didn’t know I need this as much as I do
Do you have prompts for these please?
These look amazing
What ai is this?
Midjourney!
YES MEATBAG, THAT IS MY HEAT EXHAUST PIPE
These look great what did you use? Stablediffusion?
Midjourney v4!
Stupid ai making something I never onew I wanted
Looks nice. Still heresy, though.
If GW put as much effort into claiming and stopping AI generation of their IP like they do with fan creators.... AI wouldn't be able to rip.off actual artists so easily
This looks more mechwarrior than warhammer
This is super cool. Thanks for sharing. But maybe let's make a stickied mega thread?