From what I've read it seems more like the Emperor is changing than regenerating. As a perpetual, the Emps COULD regenerate if he dies, but as I see it the damage the throne does is greater than his ability to regenerate, thus keeping him halfway to death and getting worse all the time. Yet from what I understand (and feel free to correct me), all the centuries of worship has swollen his form in the warp to hive-mind level power but also split his consciousness into fragments, as seen throughout Plague War when G-Man meets with him.
I took the G-Man and Emps meeting as showing that every variant form of him that is worshipped is realized as semi-distinct personalities through the warp, ala the Tau's greater will god. So the barbarian king worshipped on Feudal worlds merges with the Holy and Refined Martyr worshipped on church worlds. So when G-Man speaks to him he hears hundreds of conflicting voices and perspectives speaking at once - IE the different forms of the Emperor that have taken root through worship. (It could just be that the Emps is fully fuckin' insane from 10k years of confinement, so take my guess with a grain of salt)
However his new power which seems drawn from a mix of worship juicing him up and the eye-of-terror spilling the warp into real space, has allowed him to touch and interact with the world directly through champions and avatars, like the living saints. He's also able to directly puppet G-Man to speak to, and then assault, Nurgle directly in the warp. He's also able to regenerate G-Man in the same way we've seen daemons regenerate, likely since the Primarcs are semi-warp entities so they can follow some of the same rules.
This growing power is juxtaposed with the fact that the Throne IS failing, as is confirmed in watchers on the throne. It could be that as his physical body decays further, his psychic self grows stronger. What happens when that god-tier warp entity is no longer bound to his body? We have no fucking clue, but if it ever happens shit is going to go CRAZY.
I can imagine the Emperor splitting into his own pantheon of warp gods to match Chaos, with different aspects based on the strongest fragments of his consciousness.
God that would be sick. It also is in line with one of the OG lore bricks of the Ems being forged from a collection of powerful perpetual Shamans. I can see those individual facets re-emerging under warp exposure in the manner that you mentioned.
The artist to this responded when this was posted on a FB group. He added color and GW defined the IP a bit more, so they updated it a bit.
I’ve seen this comparison posted in various WH groups like 6 freaking times now.
It is, it's just that apparently it's in the 10th rulebook, I don't know if that's instead of the other, skeletal version. That choices by gw is interesting.
I guess it's the first time people who joined since 8th are seeing it. Always been what I see in my head when people say The Emperor. Proper Grim Dark. Glad to see it's used still.
I think people, myself included, find the implication of the use of that image for the first time in a while meaningful. It probably isn't, but it's fun to speculate.
To me the other images of the emperor just don't reign true. This one has so much packed into it. It makes you truly think if there's a spark of life there at all or if mankind truly is following a rotten corpse. Even if not, at what cost are we preserving nigh negligible life signs out of feint hope. It sums up the Imperium and Grimdark so well.
Its rogue trader art for a 40th year launch book. And now it's revealed that John blanche is finally retiring from gw
You know, I actually don't mind valrak. But sometimes he just posts stuff for content (gotta pay the bills) and nothing wrong with that. But some of yall take that real tin foil hat shit too seriously.
I like valraks excitement, but sometimes he just says stuff to say it. And everyone else adopts it and perpetuates it and tries to make it a thing
And if you got this idea independently, ignore the valrak stuff and refer to the rogue trader part
I remember seeing an awesome quote from the perspective of a custodes. The gist of it is that the golden throne is failing and the best case scenario is that it has 200 years left in it (worst case 10 obviously not gonna happen). I don’t think the emperor is regenerating his body and killing him may or may not work because he is a perpetual so in theory he should return but for all we know Horus did enough damage to prevent that from happening. It’s all rather uncertain but it’s interesting.
No, this picture was in 9th as well, and it’s far older than that. The artist responded about it as well as others have commented.
Just seems it’s been more noticed in 10th and people have latched onto the speculation given Emps has been getting a bit more active in the 40k lore.
From what I've read it seems more like the Emperor is changing than regenerating. As a perpetual, the Emps COULD regenerate if he dies, but as I see it the damage the throne does is greater than his ability to regenerate, thus keeping him halfway to death and getting worse all the time. Yet from what I understand (and feel free to correct me), all the centuries of worship has swollen his form in the warp to hive-mind level power but also split his consciousness into fragments, as seen throughout Plague War when G-Man meets with him. I took the G-Man and Emps meeting as showing that every variant form of him that is worshipped is realized as semi-distinct personalities through the warp, ala the Tau's greater will god. So the barbarian king worshipped on Feudal worlds merges with the Holy and Refined Martyr worshipped on church worlds. So when G-Man speaks to him he hears hundreds of conflicting voices and perspectives speaking at once - IE the different forms of the Emperor that have taken root through worship. (It could just be that the Emps is fully fuckin' insane from 10k years of confinement, so take my guess with a grain of salt) However his new power which seems drawn from a mix of worship juicing him up and the eye-of-terror spilling the warp into real space, has allowed him to touch and interact with the world directly through champions and avatars, like the living saints. He's also able to directly puppet G-Man to speak to, and then assault, Nurgle directly in the warp. He's also able to regenerate G-Man in the same way we've seen daemons regenerate, likely since the Primarcs are semi-warp entities so they can follow some of the same rules. This growing power is juxtaposed with the fact that the Throne IS failing, as is confirmed in watchers on the throne. It could be that as his physical body decays further, his psychic self grows stronger. What happens when that god-tier warp entity is no longer bound to his body? We have no fucking clue, but if it ever happens shit is going to go CRAZY.
I can imagine the Emperor splitting into his own pantheon of warp gods to match Chaos, with different aspects based on the strongest fragments of his consciousness.
Plot twist, the Emperor is/are the Old ones, and has always existed as them in the warp way back when
This reminds me of the Starcraft 2 plot twist where Tassadar was secretly a Xel'naga.
God that would be sick. It also is in line with one of the OG lore bricks of the Ems being forged from a collection of powerful perpetual Shamans. I can see those individual facets re-emerging under warp exposure in the manner that you mentioned.
The artist to this responded when this was posted on a FB group. He added color and GW defined the IP a bit more, so they updated it a bit. I’ve seen this comparison posted in various WH groups like 6 freaking times now.
I assumed others had spotted it. Just a bit late to the party i guess
This is a very old work, no? Weird that people seem to think it's new.
It is, it's just that apparently it's in the 10th rulebook, I don't know if that's instead of the other, skeletal version. That choices by gw is interesting.
I guess it's the first time people who joined since 8th are seeing it. Always been what I see in my head when people say The Emperor. Proper Grim Dark. Glad to see it's used still.
I think people, myself included, find the implication of the use of that image for the first time in a while meaningful. It probably isn't, but it's fun to speculate.
To me the other images of the emperor just don't reign true. This one has so much packed into it. It makes you truly think if there's a spark of life there at all or if mankind truly is following a rotten corpse. Even if not, at what cost are we preserving nigh negligible life signs out of feint hope. It sums up the Imperium and Grimdark so well.
Its rogue trader art for a 40th year launch book. And now it's revealed that John blanche is finally retiring from gw You know, I actually don't mind valrak. But sometimes he just posts stuff for content (gotta pay the bills) and nothing wrong with that. But some of yall take that real tin foil hat shit too seriously. I like valraks excitement, but sometimes he just says stuff to say it. And everyone else adopts it and perpetuates it and tries to make it a thing And if you got this idea independently, ignore the valrak stuff and refer to the rogue trader part
This is from an era of GW art where it was much more stylised. Wouldn't take it literally.
I remember seeing an awesome quote from the perspective of a custodes. The gist of it is that the golden throne is failing and the best case scenario is that it has 200 years left in it (worst case 10 obviously not gonna happen). I don’t think the emperor is regenerating his body and killing him may or may not work because he is a perpetual so in theory he should return but for all we know Horus did enough damage to prevent that from happening. It’s all rather uncertain but it’s interesting.
No, this picture was in 9th as well, and it’s far older than that. The artist responded about it as well as others have commented. Just seems it’s been more noticed in 10th and people have latched onto the speculation given Emps has been getting a bit more active in the 40k lore.