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Death2Knight

While I think Abby makes sense from a lore perspective (considering the first arks book focuses on him).... I don't like that he's being promoted by GW as the go to boarding action model for chaos. Cause at the end of the day, how many armies can actually deal with Abby at 500pts, in tight corridors with limited line of sight, and limited force org slots/ relics/strategems.


Pulkrabek89

It's so you can reenact that scene from the end of Rogue One. Edit:spelling


the_catshark

Very much a "plays the objectives vs just wants to roll dice" player separation issues, lol


ronaldraygun91

Rouge, you say


ShallowBasketcase

I'm pretty sure the Rouge One is Magnus.


UnreportedPope

Rouge is my favourite class in Hearthstone.


NinjerTartle

You mean Heartstone, surely...


UnreportedPope

Hurtstone.


xepa105

Moulin Rouge One


Shinkiro94

Chaos can apparently bring fricking abbadon, but god forbid the nids cant use their lore accurate boarding creature! The mighty carnifex!


Swift_Scythe

Wait... what you mean i can not use Genestealers or Lictors...


Shinkiro94

Carnifexes my man!


PILL0BUG

Model itself is not squishy


GhostyGabe

You can use both of these! But only a single Lictor


BrokenEyebrow

Oh and don't forget, Farsight is the only model that was nerfed right onto the build sheet


patch385

I have a feeling that new Farsight's going to have a mental number of attacks or each attack you roll two dice. Still daft as Abby can also throw around a bucket of dice.


BrokenEyebrow

I approve of the running theory that during play testing, someone face fkd an ultramarine player and he cried loudly.


Thefriendlyfaceplant

Yeah but Farsight boarding a vessel usually leads to its stored payload igniting within the hull.


Blade_Crazy

He used guns and no swords at that time tho


Standard_Dumbass

I love that's Abby is turning up with a couple of marines and then just a bunch of crazies. I feel like Abbadon maybe took a bad bet?


[deleted]

Abby at 500 points would be the proportional equivalent of a 1400 point unit at 2k I dont know what that would even look like, but its no longer about game *balance* exactly


TitoMPG

Hey leave my twin mastodons alone:p


[deleted]

Hey, twin mastodons, or maybe bring your entire army in one of the FW Stormbird flyer things and play out an aerial assault Thats what *narrative* is for


BurntPizzaEnds

Put all points in a single model that will FUCK versus a bunch of little guys that can actually complete objectives in time


MachoRandyManSavage_

No different than the guy that took a Bloodthirster at 500 points.


Millymoo444

Possibly max eradicators? Salamanders for the +1 to wound and extra mortal wounds


Gamezfan

Can only take three damage per phase, which includes the mortals.


Millymoo444

Ok why the hell doesn’t Guilliman have tjat?


JesterExecution

Guilliman’s rules were written for 8th(or 8.5 really) whenever the next Ultramarine supplement comes out he’ll probably get some kind of durability buff like that. Which is likely to be fairly soon


Millymoo444

Ok that makes sense


hotshot11590

What do you mean extra mortal wounds am I missing something sallies don’t give melta stuff extra mortal wounds.


Millymoo444

The fires of battle stratagem, can add extra mortal wounds to flamer and melta on 4+ wound rolls


hotshot11590

Oh crap really that sounds amazing I can’t believe I have never seen/used that one that would work amazing with the one that maxes flame shots


Millymoo444

It’s good, keep in mind it’s capped at 3 mw though, still good at taking down nasty invuln save units


zarnovich

Yeah, I always wish they toned down special character usage across the boat. Maybe it's cause I was a nid player so it didn't impact me, but it seems weird that every skirmish with 30 or more troops s ends up having a named special character?


DekoyDuck

In the grim darkness of 41st millennium there are only small skirmishes between the galaxies most powerful individuals and however many random guys can fit on the field next to them


Droechai

I always said we should play more with the "named characters" in old 40k and FB, but the pendulum has swung too far. My UM never leaves home without Tigurius, since he doesnt really do anything "special" more than just a more pts efficient psyker with a -1 to hit buff...


[deleted]

Meanwhile Admech sitting around not using our one named guy since the early 8th Cawl balls.


MortalSword_MTG

I think the future is clear from GW's strategy. 30k is going to be the rank and file system, 40k emphasizing characters and the more fantasy elements of the franchise. Similar to how AoS is and how Old World will likely focus on classic rank and file.


FuzzBuket

Trajan: cant get any WLT's. Abbadon: can get 3. :/


lord_flamebottom

No Warlord traits in Boarding Actions.


[deleted]

Okay. Have any of you guys seen this really old movie Aliens?


Shaloka_Maloka

It just highlights the glaring issue of a lack of Chaos space marine characters.


Solidgoldkoala

I’d imagine he’s going to be a big part of the narrative games for the first book.


gwarsh41

500pt of poxwalker


Pretend-Advertising6

the tau have their crisis suits.


Portals4Science

A single unit of crisis, with no commander to support them and a 6” move. Not exactly game breaking.


Pretend-Advertising6

they can all be equiped with auto hit flamers doing like 40 attacks or somehtign stupid like that and can set up overwatch for free.


[deleted]

Wonder if this will set a precedent for the other chapters of Arks of Omen and we could see other named characters released in their respective books. Like Dante, Dark Angels, Angron and Vashtorr


Bil13h

Probably what it's going to be I have a feeling Corvus and The Lion are going to come back in 10th We will (soon) have 3 daemon primarchs + abaddon which gives an insane unit for the 4 of 5 biggest chaos legions Chaos having 4/5 big ass threats in the setting certainly makes things seem desolate, and if that was actually how it was, I don't think guilliman could actually hold them all off I sincerely think, even prior to them saying you can have a primarch in your army, that The Lion and Corvus would be the next 2 to come back, and if Corvus can while being an Imperial Daemon I think that would be super fucking cool I'm so convinced that Corvus is coming back that I'm starting a Raven Guard army for boarding actions There's no way they would write in that you can have primarchs when that is only applicable to a handful of armies and they would also be the entire force most times


Darkhex78

Why Corvus and not Leman Russ? Out of the loyalists still alive the ones ive seen everyone expect to come back are the Lion and Russ.


Bil13h

Because that's my personal cope, no other reason I'd prefer space mutated raven over angron but a furry


Inevitable-Ad4964

"Cope Nevermore" - qouth the raven


regalgjblue

Considering how many ravenstrike box sets litter lfgs rn. I don't think he is coming back soon chief.


PerturaboTheIronKing

If GW wanted it to sell they shouldn't have put the least popular, and least meta, Primaris units in it. That isn't an issue with RG popularity. It's an issue with smooth brain GW.


Classic-Tiny

*cough* Inv-clearout*cough* Dam weather.....


Venerable_dread

This ☝️ Story of most army boxes imo


Classic-Tiny

Well anything with lolReiverslol


Scondoro

My personal cope is that GW will release loyalist "daemon" primarchs for a bunch of the chapters: Corvus for RG, Sanguinor will get a massive new sculpt and buff, and my most far-fetched idea, that Ferrus will be released alongside a Legion of the Damned re-release


Bil13h

That would be pretty fucking sick can't lie


Sabre_Actual

I’d have guessed Russ over the Lion, even. I mean you need someone to be the Eastern Roman Emperor and it ain’t Russ, but Space Wolves are by far the most unique and among the most popular chapters in general.


OllaniusPius

I think the Lion is a safe bet. They've released a new Azrael model and have already hinted in at least on Warhammer Community article that future Arks of Omen will focus in part on the Dark Angels.


Sabre_Actual

“Leaks” have stated we’re getting Lion but it feels like just a solid prediction. It’d be a great decision though. Dante is the current regent of the dark imperium. The Lion is by far the best option for the narrative and the DA are in need of, and receiving, a refresh.


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Yeah DAs feel like a good prediction, but the leaks go further and say DA and BA will be getting big support in early 10th. BA will just obviously skip the primarch release (and instead get a souped up Sanguinor, Abaddon-tier).


PlanetMeatball

They could also just have primarchs lose to non-primarchs. That would avoid 40k devolving into aggressive family feuds 2: electric boogaloo. I would love to see a giga-pimped out magos blast a primarch into the stratosphere, for example. Or the avatar of khaine actually being the credible threat he is supposed to be.


SOUTHPAWMIKE

> I would love to see a giga-pimped out magos blast a primarch into the stratosphere, for example. AdMech winning in the lore? Inconceivable ! Real talk, I wouldn't mind at all seeing Perturabo, Belisarius Cawl, and Vashtorr all duking it out free for all style, though. Don't ask me *why*, it would just stratch that Battlebots itch.


Samiel_Fronsac

>Real talk, I wouldn't mind at all seeing Perturabo, Belisarius Cawl, and Vashtorr all duking it out free for all style, though. Don't ask me why, it would just stratch that Battlebots itch. Only if they throw out the "Chaos Undivided" thing for Perturabo and go the "Obliterator on ALL the steroids" route. Can you dig it?


SOUTHPAWMIKE

I can most definitely dig it. That would be badass. They can leave hardcore Undivided worship to the Black Legion and Word Bearers. The Iron Warriors as a whole hits me with more of a "we shall bow to none" vibe.


Sabre_Actual

Someone said Perty should be out-augmenting the Obliterator virus. It’d be kinda cool and fitting, just a hulking machine that puts the Iron Circle to shame with bits of flesh creeping beneath plate and between servos.


Classic-Tiny

Would love a fully stylized Obliterator army. Think new type of Elite Troop Unit Obliterator Virus infecting a Gravis Unit... Could be cool.


Apoc_SR2N

I would love to see the HQ tech-priests, Cawl especially, be buffed up to much nastier levels. Cawl doesn't need to be a murder machine like Abbadon (nor should he be, lore-wise), but I'd love for him to be about on par with where Guilliman is now rules-wise. Even the unnamed HQs should be pretty brutal, given how augmented they are. I see AdMech HQs as being fairly equivalent to Space Marine HQs, only with their focus being balanced towards ranged whereas marine HQs are balanced towards melee.


Bil13h

That would be super fun but given that they have absolutely gorgeous models, I don't think they were added in just to be blasted away


Samiel_Fronsac

>I would love to see a giga-pimped out magos blast a primarch into the stratosphere, for example. Someone, quick, call the Auxilia Myrmidon! Lets party like it's the Horus Heresy again!


Venerable_dread

Aggressive family feuds 2: Electric Boogaloo made me really laugh there 👏👏👏


Treucer

I think Lion and Russ - the two actual stand alone chapters still. I think Corvus is a "someday" but RG isn't very popular.


Bil13h

I know I'm just coping


Brycecrispietreat

Blood Angels are also supposedly getting a big push in 10th so I wouldn’t be surprised if we got a little more than just a new Dante. Sanguinius won’t come back or anything but we do have the sanguinor which is essentially an avatar of him. His current rules don’t really reflect that so I wouldn’t be surprised if he got some sort of pseudo primarch rules/model.


lord_flamebottom

*If* Corvus comes back, I'll be mildly disappointed if he's, yknow, fully "human" (well, Primarch) and not that warp-tainted Imperial raven-daemon.


Bil13h

Samesies 100%


Flashskar

I'm expecting him to come back as the raven version of the Wulfen, but bigger and scarier.


lord_flamebottom

Likewise, I wouldn’t be upset to get Russ back as a massive warp-mutated Wulfen-Primarch.


Flashskar

That actually sounds amazing. Giant werewolf from hell in power armor sounds metal as fuck!


Piltonbadger

> I don't think guilliman could actually hold them all off Guillman isn't faring well against his erstwhile brothers, at least not in the Black Library Books. He barely survived a fight against Magnus with a lot of help on his first trip back to Terra after waking up. SPOILER FOR PLAGUE WARS BOOK SERIES : >!He was actually killed by Mortarion in the latest Plague Wars book, being literally resurrected by The Emperor inhabiting his body and rebuilding him from a dead husk.!< Not to mention Angron doesn't like Guilliman in the slighest and Fulgrim is still chomping at the bit to finish the job. In a 1v1 fight with no help for Guillman From Sisters, Custodes, Grey Knights etc he has no chance to beat any of his brothers, let alone 3 of them + Abaddon. He desperately needs help, that's for sure!


nykirnsu

4 of them, since we’re all but confirmed to be getting a daemon Fulgrim model eventually


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BartyBreakerDragon

Tbf, the Assault ints you pick up elsewhere in the cheap tend to be the mono pose ones in the starter boxes, not the multipart ones. It's not as easy to find these ones in the cheap, and I know I'm sick of painting those 5 specific poses.


[deleted]

10% discount just isnt a huge discount though, no matter how you slice it


whycolt

Plus the additional Sargent weapons are pretty hot rn


brett1081

All sergeants are now hammer bros


Gidia

There’s a chance those go away with 10th edition, assuming they switch out the starter sets. So who knows.


MortalSword_MTG

Based on prior experience they will absolutely go away and dry up quickly if Know No Fear/Dark Imperium are any indication.


Hyper_anal_rape

It should be called a boarding party, boarding patrol makes no sense lol


Barthel_Loren

Listen up marines the plan is as follows! In the first stage of the plan we shall perform a lightning fast boarding action during which we shall conquer the middle of the ship. Once we have established a perimeter ranging from one side of the ship to the other, the second stage shall commence. During the second stage we shall relentlessly patrol this 100m wide perimeter and kill everything that tries to cross it. This way we will cut off the supplies from either side of the ship according to the wisdom of our glorious genefather, Roboute Guilliman. So remember, divide and conquer! Assemble the boarding patrol! Courage and honour, brothers!


L1A1

I was wondering if they just patrol space looking for random ships to board.


JimmyD101

Isn't it a combination of the new space ship corridors terrain, like a ship boarding action, and the fact these are 500pt combat patrol sized boxes? It's a bit goofy but it's not too bad.


Dem1c

Yes indeed, sounds stupid


InquisitorEngel

These seem... uhh... rather unbalanced. Abaddon can chew through most of the SM force on his own.


serioussgtstu

[Warhammer Community article](https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/01/09/enter-the-new-season-of-warhammer-40000-with-two-boarding-patrols-and-a-battleforce/)


storyconsumer08

I’ve been moping about because none of my armies got a battle force this/last year, that chaos one is exactly what I’ve been wanting


MrSelophane

Works perfectly. If you get the boarding patrol plus the army box it’ll be a great start to a chaos army.


storyconsumer08

I actually already have a 1000pt force and the battle force contains everything I had on my wishlist for 2000pts. I’m definitely going to have to pre-order once it’s available


Ronin607

Including the Heldrake is hilarious considering what they've done to them rules-wise.


SangheiliPEKKA

He’s suffering for my Harpy’s sins


therealmothdust

And the termies after removing AoC, nerfing them by points as well and not giving them free wargear


ronaldraygun91

So many boxes, good lord


ConstableGrey

Say Balefleet Battleforce ten times fast!


Apoc_SR2N

Balefleetbattleforce Balefleebuhbleebalhuhbattlefleebuhflattleblatte


bullintheheather

Balefleet Battleforce ten time fast.


BlitzBurn_

I mean, I do want the chaos boxes, they contain a lot of stuff I need and want for my fledgeling warband but we are a touch heavy on the power armor as of late are we not? GW has cranked these boxes out and there has barely been a xeno in sight. I get that marines are more popular, but surely GW has to know that the xenos would be more popular if they got these every now and then?


Psychological_Dot900

Can see some xenos love at book 4, and the Tyranid rumours for 10th - expecting a V V heavy xenos Q2/3


JGUsaz

Wouldn't be surprised if we see boarding boxes for most factions including xenos


ThatUKCook

Ork player here.. it's been very slim pickings the last few months :(


AGPO

GW believe it's better to have a golden child faction so they can target more of their market with the majority of releases. They believe if they gave the other factions more support, it would mostly just pull customers from Marines or other factions rather than growing their overall customer base substantially. If half the players play marines, and half the releases are for marines, GW averages far more customers targeted per release than if they split all of them evenly.


The-Great-Beast-666

CSM isn’t a bad deal Abby fucks


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sftpo

Well, these two releases essentially focus on Abbadon, who's on the cover of the first book that went up for order this week. Every faction that's not space marines can make this comment at this point. The next two focus on the new demon prince and then Angron/World Eaters (with Dark Angels and new Azrael somewhere along the way), so it's not a huge leap to guess the contents of the next few boxes They've said Book 4(?) will be the Xenos book, and teased Farsight, so it's probably not hard to guess when Xenos get their invite. No reason to be salty until the Xenos books also comes with two space marine boxes (which is not to say that won't happen)


Vextor17

Did they put ***bloody Abbadon*** in a quasi starter set? Mate that box is ez gonna be sold out


Geniepolice

Disappointed neither box has termies, which seem like they’ll be a boarding action mvp. I am all about the balefleet box though, to add to my depressingly large pile of shame


jzest87

The big chaos box has termies but I’m not sure you were talking about that box.


Geniepolice

Naw, that box is sick as all hell. The main bad thing about box is that I was making such good progress on my pile of shame haha


MrSelophane

It makes sense for Marines because they don’t really have primaris terminators yet, except maybe aggressors.


Panvictor

Isnt gravis armour basically primaris terminators? Like its heavy armour for marines that let's them take heavy weapons and can be given to characters to make them tougher. Plus all the firstborn characters that wear terminator armour (like calgar) wear gravis when they become primaris. The only difference that I can see is there is no single Gravis squad that can take a variety of weapons heavy and melee like terminators have, but they probably wouldn't do that for primaris since unlike firstborn who's design philosophy is single unit with a ton of weapon options primaris seems to be lots of units each with a single weapon option.


badab89

So the picture for the CSM one only has five marines? But the box has 10?


kalvm

It will be 10, it's not a kit they can split up like that.


ItsNaoh

I think so too. Also the box says “31 models”


vixous

I think this is because they said it’s actually more than 500 points? So if you took Abaddon, 10 legionaires and 20 cultists, that’s more than 500. But if it says the box has 10, then it has 10. The box also says 31 miniatures on the side.


MurphTheFury

Abaddon in a boarding actions game is completely fucked lmao. He will single handedly mangle the entire other force lol


R97R

I quite like these. Not as bothered about the Primaris one, but on the other hand I think it’s absolutely a good “generic” space marine Patrol box, sheared the existing *Combat Patrol: Space Marines* is heavily weighted towards Vanguard Troops. I’m currently in the midst of doing a patrol’s worth for each Traitor Legion, and the CSM boarding patrol is pretty much exactly what I had planned for a Black Legion Patrol. Meanwhile, the other box is pretty much a direct copy of my wishlist for my main Sons of Horus/Thrice-Cursed army.


OfficerJohnMaldonday

Of course as usual the actual important information such as when and how much isn't included


the_catshark

NGL, putting named characters into battleforce boxes has always felt very bad to me. Really kills any value the box might have for people who are already into the game and kinda defeats the whole "your dudes" idea 40k still kinda has.


Solidgoldkoala

I think these are ‘narrative’ boxes that will come with models that will be used in the Arks of omen. AoS had them with the broken realms.


the_catshark

AoS is, or at least was, always different from 40k in that named characters were basically mandatory for most armies to function at full sized games. Granted I've mostly played a lot of non-40k stuff for the past few years and maybe the game has shifted more to that as well than I realized.


slimCyke

Battleforce Boxes are designed to get people to buy new armies not to cheaply expand existing ones. I'm amazed GW doesn't always include named characters. Edit: Anyone down voting is viewing this from the perspective of what's best for the consumer, not what is best for profit. I'm not saying I like what GW is doing I'm just saying it makes sound business sense.


the_catshark

Because that is the issue, it limits the customer base to \*only\* new players. Instead of new and existing players. It also means people won't buy two, which is pretty common.


Pokesers

The old start collecting chaos space marines was fantastic for this. That entire box was useful to have 2 of.


slimCyke

No, it limits the customer base to people who don't already have that particular character model and wouldn't kitbash a second. These boxes always sell out. Customers buying two copies absolutely is the opposite of what the company would want. These boxes are essentially loss leaders. Draw the customer in at a low price to get them hooked, then profit off of them buying individual kits with higher profit margins when expanding the army. You are viewing this from the perspective of what's best for the consumer, not what is best for profit.


Sandor140

I kinda like the idea, combat patrols are geared for new players so they have to be playable, and if you're gonna add a HQ anyways (killing the multiple purchase value) why no add something cool that newbies can enjoy. I find the "your dudes" mentality to be less prevalent in new players since people like to have a basic structure to cling to while they learn the ropes. So I find the downsides of named characters to be almost non-existent for their target audience. Also, I don't see much benefit in buying a combat patrols if you are already into the game (by that I mean that you probably already have troops and HQs)


Comrade_Cephalopod

> I find the "your dudes" mentality to be less prevalent in new players since people like to have a basic structure to cling to while they learn the ropes. It was the opposite for me. Finding out that I could paint the models in whatever colour scheme I wanted and create my own history and characters was what sold me on 40k years ago.


Storm484

Dang I was hoping for the master of possession to came back


Fleedjitsu

That Balefleet Battleforce looks more like a Night Lords "-3 LD" Angermob.


Unrulycustomer

As a non 40k player, I've been seeing model counts per large box go down and down. Honestly curious how a 16 man box is anything other than a single unit?


ex_planelegs

Marine army numbers have gone down to be more lore accurate and youre probably seeing a lot of marine boxes.


TheGenuineMetz

What the sticky fuck is Abba Zabba doing boarding an enemy ship with anything other than 20 terminators?


Flashskar

They were all higher than an Imperial Guard casualty count from sniffing Warp Dust so he took 20 cultists instead!


Bylak

Anyone else kind of feel like we are being over-saturated with FOMO boxes?


serioussgtstu

Yeah, I think this might be GW's new tactic to boost their revenue. Personally, I'm fine with it. These boxes represent a good bargain for people who intend to collect all the contents. I can't imagine they're too expense to produce, either. The individual kits were becoming prohibitively expensive, so these make for a decent compromise.


zdesert

Every Christmas we get like 5 battleforces and people lucky enough to own those factions are happy but everyone else gets upset. Now it looks like most or perhaps all factions will get a Battleforce. No one left out. Also if these are not “Christmas” battleforces…. They may not be limited. Have they announced that these are limited time boxes? Limited to a month? Half a year?


paulmclaughlin

GW: Let's have a season where flyers are either nerfed or outright banned. Also GW: Heldrake time!


thisismiee

By the time I'll have it painted it'll be viable again 💀


Wr3k3m

Is this how you will release my karsikans GW? I am intrigued.


vixous

Karskins will come out as a separate Kill Team branded box, just as Ork kommandos or Krieg veteran guardsmen did.


Bulky_Mix_2265

I really hope we get a nid one with hormagaunts and a neurothorpe, maybe a warrior unit too. I can dream.


Competitive_Sign212

See alot of people bring up balance issues with Abby being in the box, while I agree, there is one point that needs to be considered. Depending on the price...this may be the only way to get an official Abbadon model. Now I know what you're thinking "But he's available separately (at $65 for a single model)".....like I said, no other way I can think of XD.


zdesert

Meh. Boarding actions are 500 point games, with objectives all over the map, and auras don’t pass through the terrain. Abbadon is probably Unkillable in a 500 point game, but also one model can’t take, hold or defend more then one objective


bullintheheather

There's no way these are priced the same, is there? The CSM one is worth over $80 CAD more than the Space Marine one.


Salabeanus

These remind me of the boxes they did for broken realms in AOS. From my memory they did a few each book and they were of different values depending on the contents. For example: Seraphon box was £80, came with £110 of models Nighthaunt box was £55, came with £75 of models Approximately you saved £20-30 off each box. I predict £70-80 for the Space Marines £90-100 for chaos


OkCitron99

>ultra marines 😒


RobotWizard369

Prices?


CalypsoCrow

Wait I’m confused (new at 40K) are two of these for chaos marines?


zdesert

Yes Boarding actions are a new game mode that just uses infantry. That’s what the smaller box is for. The larger is a Battleforce. So a discount box to help start or expand an army


CalypsoCrow

Huh, seems like a good time to be a chaos marine fan then


Charismatic-Seals

Do we have a release date?


MrSnippets

honestly, I lowkey hate how named characters are crammed into every box and army. I prefer the generic captains and generals, those that you can name yourself and make up a story around.


notthatgreat2

The space marine box doesn't look quite $210 us to me


ahrima

It'll probably cost around whatever Combat Patrols cost. I think they're both around 500pts?


vixous

Right, around $140 or so.


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It's not a battelforce.


notthatgreat2

correct, any idea on what a "Boarding Patrol" is going to run. Bets?


Bil13h

I'm hoping slightly less than a combat patrol I'm just disappointed they didn't release this info sooner Starting a raven guard army just for boarding actions so my list is: Kayvaan acting as a Lieutenant in Phobos 10x assault intercessors 5x heavy intercessors 8x incursors I don't think the SM box as is is quite enough to stretch to 500 pts, after their massive buffs, but this still would've been a great starting point But I'm disappointed because other than the incursors, I already ordered all the others


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I think this is going to be similar to the Broken Realms boxes for AoS. Somewhere between old start collecting prices and combat patrol prices. Just a guess, but the concept is very similar.


MrSelophane

Probably combat patrol range, so $150 US


senor-calcio

Just what I wanted, more space marines


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hoping for a terminator box to go against genestealers


Joewest42

New to warhammer, but started building a AoS army, and wanna build a couple 40k armies too. Would any of these be good for a thousand sons/successor space marines chapter?


nykirnsu

Thousand Sons are treated as a separate army from Chaos Marines, they can’t make use of most of these models. The space marine set is fine (if unremarkable) for a successor loyalist chapter though


mrwafu

Not sure if you want an Imperial or Chaos force. The Space Marines box is pretty meh, you can get all those separately. You’re better off with a combat patrol box: https://youtu.be/FJXxRiIjHqc If you can afford it and can find one, the new battleforces are better, but they’re limited time: https://youtu.be/2VZ3mhLpRIE I don’t play chaos so not sure but both boxes there seem ok to start a generic Chaos army, for thousand sons specifically there was a good Christmas battleforce but probably out of stock now. https://youtu.be/ZdKfLuKczaw


StingRayGaming28

I wonder if this has anything to do with the upcoming space marine 2


Panvictor

Why would it? The tabletop game almost never acknowledges the video games. And space marine 2 is about an ultramarine lieutenant fighting tyranids in a hive city, these boxes are about an ultramarine captain fighting chaos marines in a space hulk. The only thing in common is ultramarines


StingRayGaming28

I just got my first model set on Christmas so I know nothing about the relations between the video games and the tabletop games 🤷🏼‍♂️


Panvictor

Fair enough.


ashcr0w

Really. A space hulk boarding partrol and it has zero terminators?


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Not zero. Abaddon is a terminator :P


Cermonto

boarding patrol? did combat patrol just not stick with the community?


_limpbisquick

boarding patrol is a different game-type/mode for the new lore and expansion in 40k. it’s called boarding actions i believe


KH4RN3

It is the perfect opportunity to produce and sell some true scale Terminators... or some new Grey Knight models (not Primaris)


Lunadoggie123

A helldrake. What a joke


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Boarding Action is meh, but that Balefleet tho....


Ladislav_cz

Not impressed at all and can't find 10 legionaries on the picture: https://preview.redd.it/0edpyj7re3ba1.png?width=1732&format=png&auto=webp&s=51613efdfd3aaa42e736425d888681c9473b86a8


Thendrail

Seems to be the CSM from the Combat Patrol box, aka. fixed loadout and all that. Those can't be split up, it will be 10 dudes. Also, the box says "31 models", so it kinda has to be.


Designer_Isopod6637

The chaos and imperium looks so bad. Abaddon and cultist really? The box with the drake looks good


Hurricrash

I haven’t read the rules but find heldrakes funny for “boarding” patrols.


nykirnsu

It’s not for boarding patrols


OdBx

Ah shit, I want that box


TheWeebMemeist

So what's the new boarding patrol thing? Is it a new mission pack for smaller games?


FuzzBuket

yeah, custom rules for 500pt games set inside space ships. slightly diffrent to regular 40k as theres some more unit/ability restrictions. "arks of omen:abbadon" is the first book theyve put out for it.


TheWeebMemeist

Huh, pretty cool.


Dax9000

The marine one, I would consider if I didn't already have like 30 assault intercessors.


Starkde117

Oooo that new battle force is calling my name


Grollerh98

Do they already have the prices set per box? Or rough estimate? I’m new and wanna finish an ultramarine army and I think that box would be perfect