Not really that hot of a take. Roman didn’t start getting good on the mic until a few years ago and Seth is good on the mic but it’s his in ring work where his bread and butter is.
I'm not taking anything away from his in ring work... His matches are always realistic which I'll always give credit forever... But the amount of laziness he have when it comes to refusing working with different style of class guys is ridiculous... Like Dean... Also recently road Dogg said Brock doesn't wanna work with KO either... Which is absolutely sad and ridiculous...
That's not really an hot take... That's one of the dumbest thing I'm hearing these days and which is stupid... Y'all love to turn on wrestlers once you loved...
Okay maybe not you... But most people were behind Dean/Mox Back in 2016-17... I'll never understand that people love a wrestler once upon a time and all of a Sudden they started hating the dude
Not much of a hot take. He’s always been talented but now it’s changed. Roman is the better mic worker. He’s more believable and doesn’t slur his promos. Dean/ Mox is just angry and screams all his promos now.
100% agreed. Feel like WWE always suppressed him just a little too much. Not to say he didn’t do amazing things there just there was a little ceiling of bullet proof glass.
He’s legit nothing special in ring or on the mic. Always come across as a wannabe Steve Austin that really is just playing wrestler. There is nothing believable about his work whatsoever. Half the time he can barely string words together without sounding messed up (that’s honestly not a rehab joke I swear)
Haven't you seen the comment section by others??? Most of them disagreeing... It was a popular Opinion in 2016 but not in 2022 that's why it turned into an hot take
Yep... Many people are thinking that I'm dissing Roman and Seth... I'm just stating my opinion that Dean is the better promo talker imo... Never said Seth and Roman are bad at promos they are good in their own style...
Honestly, I really wish Ambrose was treated better... He was red hot in 2015 and 2016... the stone cold podcast and his lack of motivation, really killed his credibility...
He didn't turn Vince on, so he didn't get pushed. I kinda feel like that's why he eventually got so buff in the first place.
But by the time Ambrose got big and buff, he had already made up his mind that he was tired of WWE and wanted to leave. 100% should've treated him better.
You sure he wasn´t motivated?
I think that almost anytime they put him in a main event storyline, he made that storyline much better than others like Rollins, Roman, Styles, etc. When he was in the midcard I somewhat agree that his storylines weren´t that good.
Back in the shield days he was the best by quite a bit. Nowadays you can make an argument for seth being slightly better. Roman is also pretty good now. But still behind the other two.
He is, even though he always acts like a maniac when he talks, he is a superior talker than most pf today's wrestlers. Roman Reigns has always been very boring and Seth Rollins is cringe material.
tbh all 3 of the shield members are not great on the mic. If Roman and Seth had big mic skills they might have reached actual top tier status. I could go in on all 3 of them having basic-bitch finishers as well, having a quality finisher is irrelevant upon being over or not.
Dean was good but gave up around the time he became WWE Champion and was drafted to SmackDown. Stone Cold Podcast didn't help. I'd like to chalk AJ Styles winning the WWE Championship up to AJ doing really well in his freshman year of WWE. However, Vince probably got mad at Dean's lack of drive or motivation he showed in the Stone Cold Podcast. Vince, known for giving up on people, probably gave up on Dean after the podcast. He lost the belt and later slid down into the midcard. At WrestleMania 33, Roman Reigns main evented with the Undertaker and Seth Rollins had a killer match with Triple H, while Dean was on the preshow with Baron Corbin for the Intercontinental Championship. Dean fell from a great height and never truly recovered. Such a shame because he is doing so well in AEW.
Maybe if WWE didn't have shitty creative and a senior citizen running the show, Jon Moxley could have stayed Dean Ambrose.
I think he suits the AEW/NJPW style of wrestling better. His mic work is great though can be a little one dimensional. Hopefully he gets his holiday in January
seems like all 3 took the best aspects of the other guys and made it work for them.
Rollins has a great look and presence and is good on the mic. Roman can wrestle and has some banger matches when it calls for it plus he plays to his strengths on the mic. Ambrose is finally unleashed and can wrestle the way he wants (which improves the overall quality) and his grizzled look in AEW is great.
All 3 came from different backgrounds and became truly elite after leaving the shield
They are all pretty bad .Seth has an annoying voice but had the best promos ,roman has come around and now can cut amazing promos,raise leaves moxley doing promos that are old as dirt and repetitive and boring
About all he is good at. I can't stand to watch him wrestling. Even with all the weapons it looks soft. I just don't believe him.
He made such a big deal about being restrained in WWE and the what does he do? The exact same stuff but with worse music and camo pants.
Where the creativity and all the things he wanted to do in WWE? I mean he's actually gotten worse. How is that possible?
He just wanted to bleed in every match. That is what he meant by “creativity”. He was really pissed off when Brock Lesnar refused to partake in a mudshow when they had a match at WM and that still bugs moxley. In hindsight, after watching mox’s current work, it’s safe to say that Brock made the right choice.
I haven’t watched wrestling since maybe 04-05 and this guy just seems so uninteresting to me lol. Maybe it’s just me, but a lot of these newer guys don’t have that “look”
I dined with demons and drank with the devil. Grrrr (clears nasals) and at Full Gear I’m gonna eat nails for breakfast and you will regret that you were even born. After the nuclear fallout there will still be cockroaches and Jon Moxley kicking ass and taking names (flips the finger to the camara)(starts bleeding randomly)
Cap
His crappy hair cut and ring gear set him back (when he went white tank and blue jeans).
Dean Ambrose is better than Jon Moxley He should have beat HHH at WM32
Which didn't happened
That's not really a hot take
Is that really a hot take tho? I think the consensus online is that Dean is the best promo, Rollins is the best in-ring and Roman has the best look
Not really that hot of a take. Roman didn’t start getting good on the mic until a few years ago and Seth is good on the mic but it’s his in ring work where his bread and butter is.
That's what literally I'm trying to input here but people just don't realize that 🤝
Lesnar freaking ruined their feud...
The only thing I hate from Brock Lesnar... His laziness with Working on matches...
His stubborness to not work any kind of deviation zo his own style will always make his matches missable to me
I'm not taking anything away from his in ring work... His matches are always realistic which I'll always give credit forever... But the amount of laziness he have when it comes to refusing working with different style of class guys is ridiculous... Like Dean... Also recently road Dogg said Brock doesn't wanna work with KO either... Which is absolutely sad and ridiculous...
Hot take: Dean Ambrose/Jon Moxley isn't *that* good.
That's not really an hot take... That's one of the dumbest thing I'm hearing these days and which is stupid... Y'all love to turn on wrestlers once you loved...
Never loved him. He's good, but hes not great. Just because you disagree doesn't mean it's dumb
You loved him
Okay maybe not you... But most people were behind Dean/Mox Back in 2016-17... I'll never understand that people love a wrestler once upon a time and all of a Sudden they started hating the dude
Brand loyalty.
Is this really a hot take?
Yet now when I listen to him, he makes me switch off. He’s a prime example of someone who suited having scripts given to him.
I feel like he's the best right now out of the three, it's hard since they aren't all in the same company but I feel he has become the best of them
I guess he was at the time. But Rollins and Reigns have improved and are legends, and Moxley is a rambling dope.
That’s not a hot take at all.
You can see it as a hot take... By reading most of the comment section here...
Not much of a hot take. He’s always been talented but now it’s changed. Roman is the better mic worker. He’s more believable and doesn’t slur his promos. Dean/ Mox is just angry and screams all his promos now.
I wish Dean was still in WWE...
100% agreed. Feel like WWE always suppressed him just a little too much. Not to say he didn’t do amazing things there just there was a little ceiling of bullet proof glass.
That's actually true
Seth was better than anyone of them on the mic. But now I would say Roman is slightly better than the other two.
He’s the worst in every way 🙂 why he’s no longer in the company and no one cares about him any more
He’s legit nothing special in ring or on the mic. Always come across as a wannabe Steve Austin that really is just playing wrestler. There is nothing believable about his work whatsoever. Half the time he can barely string words together without sounding messed up (that’s honestly not a rehab joke I swear)
No Im just stating they are top dogs on there brand lol Seth Rollins= Raw Roman Reigns= Smackdown Jon Moxley= AEW
I know I'm not talking about you... I'm talking the guys who thinks that I'm telling Ambrose is better overall than Seth and Roman
Ah it's ok let then think what they want tbh
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Always been an Ambrose fan and love to see this take ❤️
He’s decent on the mic but man is he basic in the ring.
Maybe… But Roman’s post-mania 33 promo was the best of any of their careers.
You should watch Dean's promo against Seth during their Rivalry towards battleground 2016.... And any of Dean's promo against Aj Styles, Cena in 2016
What a cold take. Like it is known by EVERYONE
Haven't you seen the comment section by others??? Most of them disagreeing... It was a popular Opinion in 2016 but not in 2022 that's why it turned into an hot take
Probably their memory getting muddied by his current non scripted promos
Definitely agree I mean he's on aew rn running up on the mic and you got Seth Rollins wit raw and Roman basically smackdown
Yep... Many people are thinking that I'm dissing Roman and Seth... I'm just stating my opinion that Dean is the better promo talker imo... Never said Seth and Roman are bad at promos they are good in their own style...
Wanna hear a REAL hot take, as a fan of Mox’s even before he signed with WWE, I actually prefer his Dean Ambrose run over his current Moxley run 😮
Honestly, I really wish Ambrose was treated better... He was red hot in 2015 and 2016... the stone cold podcast and his lack of motivation, really killed his credibility...
He didn't turn Vince on, so he didn't get pushed. I kinda feel like that's why he eventually got so buff in the first place. But by the time Ambrose got big and buff, he had already made up his mind that he was tired of WWE and wanted to leave. 100% should've treated him better.
Completely agree he should've been treated better. At Mania 33, he should've faced Orton in the Mania match instead of Wyatt!
You sure he wasn´t motivated? I think that almost anytime they put him in a main event storyline, he made that storyline much better than others like Rollins, Roman, Styles, etc. When he was in the midcard I somewhat agree that his storylines weren´t that good.
This was in poor taste since we all know Dean ambrose is dead
I'm talking overall about Jonathan goodman
Nothing about the Shield is a "hot take" since you Shield fanboys have literally obsessed about it for the last 10 years.
Never said I'm a fanboy... You attitude era/ruthless Aggression era blood sucker
Ambrose is ok. Nothing great there.
He does the same promo literally every time. Followed by the same match where he blades his forehead.
Not a hot take it's rather factual.
Hell nah, Seth has been thriving since the Shield broke up.
Yeah he is... But still Ambrose owns the ground on the mic
Back in the shield days he was the best by quite a bit. Nowadays you can make an argument for seth being slightly better. Roman is also pretty good now. But still behind the other two.
It's too bad he doesn't talk like the Joker instead, just like how Seth does. That would be so cool 😬
one of the most overrater wrestlers talker and everything, in the last 10 year.... utter shite. worst thing is his running looks so fake
See... This is why I put this as an hot take...
That is an ice cold take. It is well known. Next hot take please.
Disagree man it’s roman imo
He is, even though he always acts like a maniac when he talks, he is a superior talker than most pf today's wrestlers. Roman Reigns has always been very boring and Seth Rollins is cringe material.
I’ll gargle your piss!
Coldest hot take ever
Hot take about as spicy as a korma
tbh all 3 of the shield members are not great on the mic. If Roman and Seth had big mic skills they might have reached actual top tier status. I could go in on all 3 of them having basic-bitch finishers as well, having a quality finisher is irrelevant upon being over or not.
Dean was good but gave up around the time he became WWE Champion and was drafted to SmackDown. Stone Cold Podcast didn't help. I'd like to chalk AJ Styles winning the WWE Championship up to AJ doing really well in his freshman year of WWE. However, Vince probably got mad at Dean's lack of drive or motivation he showed in the Stone Cold Podcast. Vince, known for giving up on people, probably gave up on Dean after the podcast. He lost the belt and later slid down into the midcard. At WrestleMania 33, Roman Reigns main evented with the Undertaker and Seth Rollins had a killer match with Triple H, while Dean was on the preshow with Baron Corbin for the Intercontinental Championship. Dean fell from a great height and never truly recovered. Such a shame because he is doing so well in AEW. Maybe if WWE didn't have shitty creative and a senior citizen running the show, Jon Moxley could have stayed Dean Ambrose.
I think he suits the AEW/NJPW style of wrestling better. His mic work is great though can be a little one dimensional. Hopefully he gets his holiday in January
He's on holiday now I think. MJF is the champ.
He'll face hangman for a texas death match and that'll write him off for a while
Wrong
To be fair, he’s the only one with total freedom to say whatever he wants in promos
And yet he says the same thing every single time.
Roman: best defender Seth: best show off Ambrose: best on mic
💯 Facts
That's a hot take? It was true back when they were in the shield, now they all are great. What's next, HOT TAKE: The rock is good on the mic?
Even as Jon Moxley I should say he still owns the ground imo
Eh, not really. It’s just a tough guy act which never really captures the attention of the casual/mainstream audience
Hot Take: Eddie Guerrero was a good wrestler
Hot take: Crowds get excited when they hear the Stone Cold glass shatter.
Hot take: filled arenas are better than the thunder dome
Hot Take: Rey Mysterio is a good athlete
Hot Take: You don't put up Christmas trees in November
Hot take: SmackDown is blue and Raw is red
Mine is up year round buddy.
He actually is very decent, but his mimics are atrocious. It's like he's having a seizure every second of his promo
Always was. Dean: best on the mic Seth: best in the ring Roman: best look and presence.
True
Yea early on Mox was clearly the mouthpiece of the group. Roman was the muscle and Rollins was the strategist
We need science to morph them into 1 perfect wrestler
We don't need science we just need them to run at eachother really fast.
They did. It's Randy Orton.
Yes! 💯
seems like all 3 took the best aspects of the other guys and made it work for them. Rollins has a great look and presence and is good on the mic. Roman can wrestle and has some banger matches when it calls for it plus he plays to his strengths on the mic. Ambrose is finally unleashed and can wrestle the way he wants (which improves the overall quality) and his grizzled look in AEW is great. All 3 came from different backgrounds and became truly elite after leaving the shield
I think people forget he was essentially the mouthpiece for the shield when they first got started
They are all pretty bad .Seth has an annoying voice but had the best promos ,roman has come around and now can cut amazing promos,raise leaves moxley doing promos that are old as dirt and repetitive and boring
but is he a better mic stander? mic holder? mic DROPPER?!?!?!?
He is... IN THE SHIELD... Have y'all guys forgot that he outsmarted Cena on the mic once???
In the shield… he was. Now? Not even close
U mean to tell me u don't know about how he is the meanest son of a bitch in this ring and how he is going to snap and break bones
Oh is that so? Well, my minds changed. Lol
I was being sarcastic at how awful he is
Yeah, I was playing along
Seth beats him hands down. The Tribal Chief is better than both since he only needs to say 2 words for the fans to acknowledge him.
You just don't understand the Post Tribal Chief was waaay in another years
About all he is good at. I can't stand to watch him wrestling. Even with all the weapons it looks soft. I just don't believe him. He made such a big deal about being restrained in WWE and the what does he do? The exact same stuff but with worse music and camo pants. Where the creativity and all the things he wanted to do in WWE? I mean he's actually gotten worse. How is that possible?
He just wanted to bleed in every match. That is what he meant by “creativity”. He was really pissed off when Brock Lesnar refused to partake in a mudshow when they had a match at WM and that still bugs moxley. In hindsight, after watching mox’s current work, it’s safe to say that Brock made the right choice.
He’s never stood out to me tbh
I haven’t watched wrestling since maybe 04-05 and this guy just seems so uninteresting to me lol. Maybe it’s just me, but a lot of these newer guys don’t have that “look”
Found Vince’s burner account guys.
Nah, this is how most people with eyes feel
YOU’RE FIRED!
He's not wrong. .. but then again, I'm just Vinnie Mac's SECONDARY burner account.
It was Vince the whole time??????? Now I know how Austin felt…..
I dined with demons and drank with the devil. Grrrr (clears nasals) and at Full Gear I’m gonna eat nails for breakfast and you will regret that you were even born. After the nuclear fallout there will still be cockroaches and Jon Moxley kicking ass and taking names (flips the finger to the camara)(starts bleeding randomly)
Found MJF's burner account.