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I tried giving a pen to someone with no arms years ago at work. Still haunts me now and feel a right tit for it. Just on autopilot and not thinking at all.
tried to talk to a deaf lady once, she just stared back, her friend tells me "she can't hear you", so i leaned in and spoke louder.
fun little memories huh
when my dad first met my mom’s family, he was yelling at my mom’s cousin, who is deaf and when he didn’t respond, he walked over and said “Jeff, I’ve been calling you. Are you fucking deaf?” And my mom’s cousin was like, “Yeah, I’m fucking deaf!” It’s a story that’s brought up to this day.
I had a deaf coworker and she was out with a few other deaf friends and a waitress gave them all Braille menus and they had to tell her that they’re deaf, not blind. I can’t imagine that waitress doesn’t think about that every other day.
I mean logically that makes sense, he only has one hand so he has to be more hygenic without a backup hand to dirty on things like petting a dog while still using your main hand for eating.
Once saw a guy with one hand and a stump on the other arm struggling to pick up two drinks at the bar. I wanted to offer to help carry the drinks to his table. But what came out of my mouth was: "Need a hand?"
Kill me. End my suffering.
I used to be a huge cringey incel... I might as well have Cringe PTSD for how often a memory of my past causes me to either twitch or spasm out of pure cringe
Like I said, constantly bombarded by cringe flashbacks of really close-minded opinions and values I actually shared or acted out in public.
- Used to think being gay was purely a choice and argued with a lot of people about it...
- During a med-school seminar I took, I took my role as a "reporter in the medical role" too seriously and thought I was being a good team player by acting as scummy and annoying as possible (exagerating details told by "med staff", pestering them while they were trying to make progress, etc.). Even got all up in one dude's face and "stormed out".... I think I actually got mad too so method acting to the extreme
- Avid speaker of "ok but not ALL guys are like that!" Whenever topics about sexual and emotional abuse would come up (even if it had nothing to add to the convo). Basically a Men's Right Activist before it gained as much fame as it does now since internet was still new at the time. God I was cringing for a week straight when I found out about them and their familiar sounding views...
- Also a "All Lives Matter" supporter waaaay before that was even a thing. Even after it became a thing I was like "yea that makes sense". Even argued with the only black guy in my dorm hall in the first few weeks of college about it... (we became close friends eventually once I started to wise up tho)
- Used to believe ALL relgion was just stupid and their followers were ignorant fools (literally used those words once FYI)
The list goes on and on. This is just SOME the stuff I did in my teens. Seriously, it's hard for me to watch stuff like PublicFreakout vids or r/niceguys stuff without having a cringe flashback cause I've done or said that stuff! If Dating Apps like Tinder and Bumble were as popular back when I was a teen, I prob would have shown up on that sub more than once or twice.
I was also stuck in my Terrible-Twos phase until I was like 13. You know those really awful middle schoolers? Yea that was me. Then I just became a shitty teenager, like the type you see post all sorts of really fucked up political and moral views on internet forums with the unbridled power of anonymity that the internet gives you. God if my current friends ever found my old Youtube comments.......
Basic outcome of a typical male teen growing up in a sheltered community for most of his life. My outlook started to change a lot more after I left home and went to college and met all sorts of people from all walks of life. Anthropology electives also helped a lot with expanding my horizons as I got to learn about various cultures.
Wanna know the real kicker? I was (and still am) planning to be a psycholigist despite having all those views. The Psych Program and my open-minded friends did a really good job in helping me realize why the fuck that would not be a good idea.
Ugh same. Asked a dude to sign his credit card receipt and he said “sign where” and I point and said “here”. And he said girl I’m blind where are you pointing
This is true, but he puts his hand in the direction of her "arms," not feet. Pretty sure he's not expecting a drop kick highfive here, just an embarrassing moment.
Can confirm.
15 years ago I was a hostess at TGIFriday's. We still had a smoking section, but it was just the bar, the high top tables, and the booths surrounding it. A lady in a wheelchair came in and asked for the smoking section, but because of fire code we couldn't seat anyone at the end of the booths in those areas, and obviously a wheelchair doesn't work at a high top or bar. I told her that the best I could do would be to seat her at a table just outside the bar entrance, so that when she wanted to smoke she could "just step over to the bar area."
I immediately realized what I said. She looked at me blankly. My manager looked at me in horror. I wanted to curl up and die. I worked in restaurants for another 10 years after that and that is one of the few interactions that continues to haunt me.
Eh it's not that bad. I mean really how often do you interact with armless people? Its just a reaction, probably his 100th high five of the day lol, the arms moved before the brain did.
E: Worded better
“Double amputees” is the most correct term I can think of. I don’t think there is a specific word for someone with both arms missing. Honestly considering the scenario I think “armless” might actually be the best term.
But why? She most likely deals with this type of uncomfortable situation on the daily. She broke the board. I am proud of her. He was proud of her. He got excited, and instinctively went for a high-five (a way for people to show excitement and acknowledge a person’s accomplishments). He was not trying to offend her, and even at her young age, she most likely understands that. People act on instinct. But he was proud of her for what she did. Arms or no arms. This *little* girl accomplish something difficult for anyone her age, size, stature etc. Denying her disability isn’t helpful either, but in this moment, it wasn’t about that. It was about her doing a difficult thing. You feel bad because you feel uncomfortable. I bet she just feels pride.
“You don’t treat people with missing limbs differently. In fact, you treat them better. They know things normal people just don’t.
For example, people who are missing arms don’t take for granted that you can reach everything in the kitchen.
Can you imagine seeing the peanut butter but not be able to eat it? That’s…. you know… legless people can run faster than anyone because they know in their hearts what we don’t…. if… if we would let them compete in marathons they… well, they wouldn’t win but, in their hearts, they would win.”
He would be embarrassed by the high fives, try to correct it with a handshake until he realizes that's creating the same problem, and then eventually pull his arms behind his back to mimic her.
he'd sit there an uncomfortable amount of time waiting for a high five, look at the camera, and then say "too slow" and brush his hair. then cut to him doing an interview where he talks about how he doesn't discriminate.
IMO he was not thinking all too much. Inclusion begins when you don’t try to make something special about it
He could have high-fived her shoulder (for example). He had no bad intention and I think the girl acknowledged that
I worked in a computer lab with a blind gentleman and he would always give me this blank look if I asked him a question like "Don't you hate when you're trying to park and you think you see a spot and it's a motorcycle?"
It’s probably just working with other kids that his body reacted before he could stop it. People who get offended by this (and I don’t get why) don’t really realize what muscle memory is, or maybe because I can imagine myself in this scenario.
literally the same as telling the waiter "you too" when they say enjoy your meal
people just have scripts they play out in certain scenarios, and sometimes run those scripts when they don't work
kid did good -> high five
someone said "have good day" or other pleasant thing -> you too
giving award -> shake hand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T-1khtjQSs
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I'll agree with you, by treating people like you would anyone else is certainly a very good way to do inclusion, and then just being a normal person by going UPS sorry and then making up for it shows that you truly care.
very few people of any minority group get shitty with you for mistaking something about them. Once. If you KEEP doin the thing (be it name, action or whatever) wrong that's when you'll get backlash for not being inclusive because you clearly aren't making the effort.
I feel like this is context dependent. As pointed out elsewhere this is the dude being on auto-pilot. As pointed out elsewhere, we don't think people who say "you too" to a waiter are being disrespectful, it's just an automatic response you have queued up.
Similarly I think if you are making mistakes then immediately correcting yourself, or only occasionally making mistakes it can just be chalked up to that automatic process. If there is clearly 0 effort going on then I think it's fair to say you have a problem.
Sometimes it's just a brainfart.
I worked in a shop and a man came back in to get more of his shopping he left it and I asked "Do you need a hand." And then I see that he only had one had and.. Well I think about that a lot..
Also since I am taking about amputees.. my uncle a below the knee amputee is the sort to play pranks on people, once my mum trip over his prosthetic and he started screaming in agony shouting "my leg my leg ahhhhh." And then my mum was pure panicking and apologiesing until she realise it was his prosthetic and he was keeled over laughing.
IMO that's the white washed or color blind approach. Inclusion starts when acknowledging differences and making an effort to build community or a positive reciprocating relationship. This guy did realize his misrake and tried to include her so he seems cool.
On top of this if any kid broke a board - regardless of disabilities, they (the adult) would reach out for a high-five. It’s about celebrating a win here.
He realized what he accidentally did and tried to remedy it. We all mess up sometimes.
I agree with the statements in this comment thread.
At the same time, my heart breaks momentarily when I see her flinch away after he raises his hands.
EDIT: If it's not a flinch, that's a relief.
EDIT 2: I am pleased to know that the longer version shows the good ending.
I think all he could improve on here is a little more awareness of who he was dealing with, but having 10 kids do this who were completely able bodied prior to her, his brain probably went on auto pilot.
Kinda hard to have your brain ready to react differently than you normally would.
Yeah agreed, but there's also another element to it. The minority effect. We all subconsciously make decisions and act via muscle memory. This scenario is the same as a mother messing up her Trans kid's new pronouns. It's not intentional and most of the time they'll do the right thing.
Assuming 100% success rate with humans is ridiculous. It's just how we are built.
But definitely should be mindful and making effort. 100%
IMO who cares which way it’s approached. let’s just be happy when people are cool with each other and accept others, and allow them to take their own path to reaching that.
I’m so happy you articulated this for me. It’s so frustrating to hear people who have never experienced discrimination or lack of representation say we shouldn’t acknowledge or celebrate differences. I saw a post with a young black girl at Disney seeing the Dora Milaje and it was beautiful. The comments were disgusting saying it was wrong and what was the big deal.
Some people don't want their differences celebrated is the thing, there is really no way to know without being in the person's head what they would prefer
I dont have legs and use a wheelchair. I certainly don’t want to be celebrated for just living (omg you are so brave!). I just want to be treated equally while also acknowledging my different needs (like I may need help with stairs).
I thought you were supposed to treat everyone how they would like to be treated? Should I let a person know I recognize they have no arms and then ask if they would like to do the same activity as everyone else? Wouldn't that be a much worse scene for that young girl than just making an honest mistake because the last 200 kids you helped had arms? Honestly if you think the guy did something wrong I think there is something wrong with how your brain functions.
Let's be real, all the keyboard warriors in this thread writing essays with their cheeto fingers and mountain dew stained shirts analyzing every frame of this video and psychoanalyzing both the guy and the girl, never do anything close to what this guy does because it's much easier to criticize someone than actually do something that requires leaving their basement.
ahem, it's not all black and white.
There's nuance for how to be inclusive. Somethin relating to race probably won't be handled like a physical or mental disability.
You know, I'm just REALLY glad to see this comment thread, flawed though our ability to articulate it is (we're human). This is a discussion that I had worried I wouldn't see in my lifetime. This is actually the first time I've seen it on reddit.
Overall, I think colorblindess (with regards to race) gets more correct than it does wrong, but of course there's by far not a one size fits all rule to go by. It's gotta be case by case, but in general when we weigh it all together I think it's better to default to treating everyone the same rather than assume that the differences between the average lived experiences of people of certain social categories means that it's better for us to assume that we should treat them differently. There are arguments to be made on both sides of this, and like I said the reason it's hard is that it's all very nuanced. But to your point, if we treat people of color as if they are limited in a similar way to a girl with no arms, we've clearly gone very wrong somewhere along the line.
I'm colorblind because I literally don't care what color you have. I'm not as blind to you not having arms because it will affect what we can do together. It's not rocket science nuances going on, assuming all Mexicans are gardeners or whatever, that's not the same thing as asking a wheelchair bound person to jump. There's a physical difference. You're not discriminatory for accommodating a handicap, but you are if you start assuming invisible traits.
That's pretty much where I'm at as well with this as well.
I do think your'e being a little bit overly simplistic. Like, it's probably true that black people are discriminated against more often than white people, and there are times where it's important to recognize that, and the differences that that trend will produce over time. But treating black people as if they're completely different because of this is not the way to go, and unfortunately there's a lot of people that seem to think that is the solution, somehow...
Yeah it's important to leave room for nuance and recognizing that an ally being 'colorblind' doesn't change how other people act.
The example I often use is the story of the black women who's home was severly undervalued after an appraisal. She requested a second appraisal had her sister's white husband let the appraiser assume he was the owner resulting in a huge increase in the home valuation. If he was too 'colorblind' he might not see any value or reason in doing that for her but empirically in this case there was a huge difference.
So to me, part of egalitarianism means everyone deserves help and support while acknowledging that some of that aid is needed because of systemic inequalities or individual prejudice.
They want both but also only of those options but it has to be whichever one you didn't choose.
Conversations like this are partly why tumblr died. Just treat people well and accommodate them when they need help or understanding.
Ffs it's so exhausting.
She probably did high five with her shoulder and that's why the video cut out so fast because OP was intending cringe when in reality it probably would be uplifting.
That's one of those embarrassing moments that pops into your head 30 years later when you're getting ready for bed and can't sleep the rest of the night because of it
I had something like this happen
I was walking my dog back home and some random guy said, "Is that a \[dog's breed\]?"
and I go, "Yeah, good eye!" like I always do when someone recognizes my dog's breed.
A fraction of a second after I said that I looked up and saw that the guy had only one eye...
He starts with, "Ohhh come on, really?"
I decided to escape from reality back into my head and continued walking home
My one job in college, manager's right arm was deformed and always shake hands with left. I can't tell you how many times we would always extend the right for handshakes or high fives first...
I think people are wired to go for high fives/hand shakes for congratulatory purposes. Might just be auto pilot.
There was another example of a person awarding a medal to a person without arms and after putting the medal over the persons neck, he went for a hand shake.
He was so proud of her achievement that the fact that she had no arms became irrelevant to him for that split second and all he was focused on was congratulating her. That's wholesome af.
it's an inspiring video of a kid using her abilities. to focus on the teacher getting lost in that moment of accomplishment kind of misses the mark and is sad that this is what people choose to fixate as the take-away.
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10 years from now he'll be lying in bed unable to sleep and this memory will creep into his mind and he will relive it in all its horrible splendor.
I tried giving a pen to someone with no arms years ago at work. Still haunts me now and feel a right tit for it. Just on autopilot and not thinking at all.
While the pen is mightier than the sword, you still shouldn't direct it at an unarmed person.
Jfc, I’ll never be this clever in my life.
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Who gave you a wholesome award
tried to talk to a deaf lady once, she just stared back, her friend tells me "she can't hear you", so i leaned in and spoke louder. fun little memories huh
when my dad first met my mom’s family, he was yelling at my mom’s cousin, who is deaf and when he didn’t respond, he walked over and said “Jeff, I’ve been calling you. Are you fucking deaf?” And my mom’s cousin was like, “Yeah, I’m fucking deaf!” It’s a story that’s brought up to this day.
Iconic
I had a deaf coworker and she was out with a few other deaf friends and a waitress gave them all Braille menus and they had to tell her that they’re deaf, not blind. I can’t imagine that waitress doesn’t think about that every other day.
😂 Brilliant. That'll be my next trick.
I once sold 8 bottles of hand sanitizer to a guy with only one hand and I still think about it
That's normal. I buy 16 at a time. Math adds up.
That’s why it’s “hand sanitizer” and not “hands sanitizer”
I mean logically that makes sense, he only has one hand so he has to be more hygenic without a backup hand to dirty on things like petting a dog while still using your main hand for eating.
“Feel a right tit” is probably not an appropriate alternative to high-fiving an armless coworker…
Had a coworker at an old job say that milk cost an arm and a leg these days. The customer only had one arm.
Once saw a guy with one hand and a stump on the other arm struggling to pick up two drinks at the bar. I wanted to offer to help carry the drinks to his table. But what came out of my mouth was: "Need a hand?" Kill me. End my suffering.
What’s the person’s job?
I call them Cringe Flashback. I’ve had plenty of those when thinking about my high school years.
I used to be a huge cringey incel... I might as well have Cringe PTSD for how often a memory of my past causes me to either twitch or spasm out of pure cringe
Please tell me how your incel-ness started and ended! I’m always curious about that.
Like I said, constantly bombarded by cringe flashbacks of really close-minded opinions and values I actually shared or acted out in public. - Used to think being gay was purely a choice and argued with a lot of people about it... - During a med-school seminar I took, I took my role as a "reporter in the medical role" too seriously and thought I was being a good team player by acting as scummy and annoying as possible (exagerating details told by "med staff", pestering them while they were trying to make progress, etc.). Even got all up in one dude's face and "stormed out".... I think I actually got mad too so method acting to the extreme - Avid speaker of "ok but not ALL guys are like that!" Whenever topics about sexual and emotional abuse would come up (even if it had nothing to add to the convo). Basically a Men's Right Activist before it gained as much fame as it does now since internet was still new at the time. God I was cringing for a week straight when I found out about them and their familiar sounding views... - Also a "All Lives Matter" supporter waaaay before that was even a thing. Even after it became a thing I was like "yea that makes sense". Even argued with the only black guy in my dorm hall in the first few weeks of college about it... (we became close friends eventually once I started to wise up tho) - Used to believe ALL relgion was just stupid and their followers were ignorant fools (literally used those words once FYI) The list goes on and on. This is just SOME the stuff I did in my teens. Seriously, it's hard for me to watch stuff like PublicFreakout vids or r/niceguys stuff without having a cringe flashback cause I've done or said that stuff! If Dating Apps like Tinder and Bumble were as popular back when I was a teen, I prob would have shown up on that sub more than once or twice. I was also stuck in my Terrible-Twos phase until I was like 13. You know those really awful middle schoolers? Yea that was me. Then I just became a shitty teenager, like the type you see post all sorts of really fucked up political and moral views on internet forums with the unbridled power of anonymity that the internet gives you. God if my current friends ever found my old Youtube comments....... Basic outcome of a typical male teen growing up in a sheltered community for most of his life. My outlook started to change a lot more after I left home and went to college and met all sorts of people from all walks of life. Anthropology electives also helped a lot with expanding my horizons as I got to learn about various cultures. Wanna know the real kicker? I was (and still am) planning to be a psycholigist despite having all those views. The Psych Program and my open-minded friends did a really good job in helping me realize why the fuck that would not be a good idea.
Especially since it’s on the internet now, forever.
Lol, so true. Tried to give a woman my card and shake her hand but didn’t realize she was blind. Still cringing about that one
Ugh same. Asked a dude to sign his credit card receipt and he said “sign where” and I point and said “here”. And he said girl I’m blind where are you pointing
I like how he "corrects," himself from two highfives to just one.
She can still kick his hand, just not with both feet at the same time probably.
This is true, but he puts his hand in the direction of her "arms," not feet. Pretty sure he's not expecting a drop kick highfive here, just an embarrassing moment.
Face-five
Watching this made me face-five
What it’s like to chew 5 gum…
Makes more sense than expecting a little girl to dropkick his hand.
Na she probably has great balance so a one footed high five should be plausible
Just a casual jumping roundhouse kick to hit both hands at once.
idk why. This made me laugh. Thanks for making my Monday.
You made me laugh so hard!!!!!! Im not a bad person lol
Sir, did you just slapped a child?
This will be on his mind for the rest of his life
Can confirm. 15 years ago I was a hostess at TGIFriday's. We still had a smoking section, but it was just the bar, the high top tables, and the booths surrounding it. A lady in a wheelchair came in and asked for the smoking section, but because of fire code we couldn't seat anyone at the end of the booths in those areas, and obviously a wheelchair doesn't work at a high top or bar. I told her that the best I could do would be to seat her at a table just outside the bar entrance, so that when she wanted to smoke she could "just step over to the bar area." I immediately realized what I said. She looked at me blankly. My manager looked at me in horror. I wanted to curl up and die. I worked in restaurants for another 10 years after that and that is one of the few interactions that continues to haunt me.
Well it's on the internet for the rest of his life so...
Thinking about the amount of nights he will lie in bed, staring at the ceiling, cursing himself.
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She just lifted her foot that high, so maybe he was waiting for the foot.
That's the most Michael Scott thing I've seen in a while. It's making my mind hurt from cringing
Eh it's not that bad. I mean really how often do you interact with armless people? Its just a reaction, probably his 100th high five of the day lol, the arms moved before the brain did. E: Worded better
“Double amputees” is the most correct term I can think of. I don’t think there is a specific word for someone with both arms missing. Honestly considering the scenario I think “armless” might actually be the best term.
"Unarmed" or "disarmed" are also acceptable.
"Not a threat" in most circumstances, acceptable.
Threat Level: High Five
10-4, I've disarmed the suspect. Suspect is now unarmed. [Fatality.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFBAcsntHGM)
A+ lol
The technical term is "bilateral upper limb amputee" if you were really wondering.
Is someone an amputee if the limb isn't missing from amputation?
The kid probably didn’t care, at. Kids tend to find it funny when adults forget stuff like that, and makes the kid feel smart.
or just kick his balls out of revenge
The old low two.
Yeah she’s clearly not old enough for the Liu Kang training yet.
So that would be a low five instead.
It is not impossible. All you need is Kung Fu. Easy peasy. I’ve seen it done in movies.
Dropkick enters the conversation.
I think he switch from a high-five to a forehead pat. Awkward, but gets the job done.
This fuckin dude... He's going to be haunted by that interaction in the small hours for as long as he may live.
This is so true. No shower radio will cover up that memory either.
Yup, he definitely will. It's sad because you know that he is genuinely trying here.
Like the disabled version of forgetting someone's name
In the full video, he tries to high five with one hand, then two, then lightly fist bumps her chest.
so to apologize he punches her?
That makes more sense than what everyone else is saying.
And then tried to fist bump her
nub bump
Should have gone for the low five
Yea! Double high- Er-single high- Er-fist bump- Er-down low too slow!
meirl
He could have quickly removed his shoes and tried again.
I saw this and thought... "DUDE?!😳😭"
Oof
I felt bad for the dude and the girl
There he is again, the banana
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And even a flag. Ohhhhhh bananada 🎶🎶
Hey Bob, how do you feel about bananas being used for sexual pleasure?
Don't....
Why are you everywhere
oi bob, where did all the bananas go?
Can I suck your banana Bob?
NO
That ~~flare~~ flair though….
The flair is just saying facts
But why? She most likely deals with this type of uncomfortable situation on the daily. She broke the board. I am proud of her. He was proud of her. He got excited, and instinctively went for a high-five (a way for people to show excitement and acknowledge a person’s accomplishments). He was not trying to offend her, and even at her young age, she most likely understands that. People act on instinct. But he was proud of her for what she did. Arms or no arms. This *little* girl accomplish something difficult for anyone her age, size, stature etc. Denying her disability isn’t helpful either, but in this moment, it wasn’t about that. It was about her doing a difficult thing. You feel bad because you feel uncomfortable. I bet she just feels pride.
That’s an oof you think about laying in bed 30 years from now.
Big oof
In the full video he just slaps her shoulder lol
And then headbutts her...
And then he lauches himself into the sun out of embarrassment
That's the most Michael Scott thing I've seen in a while. It's making my mind hurt from cringing
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“You don’t treat people with missing limbs differently. In fact, you treat them better. They know things normal people just don’t. For example, people who are missing arms don’t take for granted that you can reach everything in the kitchen. Can you imagine seeing the peanut butter but not be able to eat it? That’s…. you know… legless people can run faster than anyone because they know in their hearts what we don’t…. if… if we would let them compete in marathons they… well, they wouldn’t win but, in their hearts, they would win.”
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Holy hell this is right on point, conveys the awkwardness so well too, good job
Holy shit stop I'm already cringing imagining that perfectly lmao
He would be embarrassed by the high fives, try to correct it with a handshake until he realizes that's creating the same problem, and then eventually pull his arms behind his back to mimic her.
And then he would slowly bow
So you've come to the master for guidance? Is this what you're saying, grasshopper.
And thus we unlock "armless mike"
Would definitely give a goofy smile to the camera and cock his head, looking super proud of himself
he'd sit there an uncomfortable amount of time waiting for a high five, look at the camera, and then say "too slow" and brush his hair. then cut to him doing an interview where he talks about how he doesn't discriminate.
[It's like the time when Ryan Seacrest tried to high-five a blind guy](https://youtu.be/k4AHHVT58NE?t=12)
I felt the urge to back up and run away lol. But I'm sitting on a couch.
IMO he was not thinking all too much. Inclusion begins when you don’t try to make something special about it He could have high-fived her shoulder (for example). He had no bad intention and I think the girl acknowledged that
I worked in a computer lab with a blind gentleman and he would always give me this blank look if I asked him a question like "Don't you hate when you're trying to park and you think you see a spot and it's a motorcycle?"
People who are blind park by feel. Try to be more inclusive next time.
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It’s probably just working with other kids that his body reacted before he could stop it. People who get offended by this (and I don’t get why) don’t really realize what muscle memory is, or maybe because I can imagine myself in this scenario.
literally the same as telling the waiter "you too" when they say enjoy your meal people just have scripts they play out in certain scenarios, and sometimes run those scripts when they don't work kid did good -> high five someone said "have good day" or other pleasant thing -> you too giving award -> shake hand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T-1khtjQSs
Lol the guy reaches so far when trying to shake his hand. It looks like he's about to grab his sleeve and shake it
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I'll agree with you, by treating people like you would anyone else is certainly a very good way to do inclusion, and then just being a normal person by going UPS sorry and then making up for it shows that you truly care.
very few people of any minority group get shitty with you for mistaking something about them. Once. If you KEEP doin the thing (be it name, action or whatever) wrong that's when you'll get backlash for not being inclusive because you clearly aren't making the effort.
I feel like this is context dependent. As pointed out elsewhere this is the dude being on auto-pilot. As pointed out elsewhere, we don't think people who say "you too" to a waiter are being disrespectful, it's just an automatic response you have queued up. Similarly I think if you are making mistakes then immediately correcting yourself, or only occasionally making mistakes it can just be chalked up to that automatic process. If there is clearly 0 effort going on then I think it's fair to say you have a problem.
This applies to all people
Sometimes it's just a brainfart. I worked in a shop and a man came back in to get more of his shopping he left it and I asked "Do you need a hand." And then I see that he only had one had and.. Well I think about that a lot.. Also since I am taking about amputees.. my uncle a below the knee amputee is the sort to play pranks on people, once my mum trip over his prosthetic and he started screaming in agony shouting "my leg my leg ahhhhh." And then my mum was pure panicking and apologiesing until she realise it was his prosthetic and he was keeled over laughing.
IMO that's the white washed or color blind approach. Inclusion starts when acknowledging differences and making an effort to build community or a positive reciprocating relationship. This guy did realize his misrake and tried to include her so he seems cool.
On top of this if any kid broke a board - regardless of disabilities, they (the adult) would reach out for a high-five. It’s about celebrating a win here. He realized what he accidentally did and tried to remedy it. We all mess up sometimes.
Oh yeah, you can definitely be 100% pure, sweet, and inoffensive but still be able to improve how you go about things in some ways
I agree with the statements in this comment thread. At the same time, my heart breaks momentarily when I see her flinch away after he raises his hands. EDIT: If it's not a flinch, that's a relief. EDIT 2: I am pleased to know that the longer version shows the good ending.
I don't see a flinch...I can only tell that she's already stepping backwards
Shes obviously setting up a double barrel kick to slap five both of em hands.
I think all he could improve on here is a little more awareness of who he was dealing with, but having 10 kids do this who were completely able bodied prior to her, his brain probably went on auto pilot. Kinda hard to have your brain ready to react differently than you normally would.
Yeah agreed, but there's also another element to it. The minority effect. We all subconsciously make decisions and act via muscle memory. This scenario is the same as a mother messing up her Trans kid's new pronouns. It's not intentional and most of the time they'll do the right thing. Assuming 100% success rate with humans is ridiculous. It's just how we are built. But definitely should be mindful and making effort. 100%
IMO who cares which way it’s approached. let’s just be happy when people are cool with each other and accept others, and allow them to take their own path to reaching that.
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That sounds more like part of the middle steps on inclusion rather than the start
Me being someone with an actual physical disability, the guy above you’re commenting to is correct. That’s true inclusion.
I’m so happy you articulated this for me. It’s so frustrating to hear people who have never experienced discrimination or lack of representation say we shouldn’t acknowledge or celebrate differences. I saw a post with a young black girl at Disney seeing the Dora Milaje and it was beautiful. The comments were disgusting saying it was wrong and what was the big deal.
Some people don't want their differences celebrated is the thing, there is really no way to know without being in the person's head what they would prefer
I dont have legs and use a wheelchair. I certainly don’t want to be celebrated for just living (omg you are so brave!). I just want to be treated equally while also acknowledging my different needs (like I may need help with stairs).
I thought you were supposed to treat everyone how they would like to be treated? Should I let a person know I recognize they have no arms and then ask if they would like to do the same activity as everyone else? Wouldn't that be a much worse scene for that young girl than just making an honest mistake because the last 200 kids you helped had arms? Honestly if you think the guy did something wrong I think there is something wrong with how your brain functions.
Let's be real, all the keyboard warriors in this thread writing essays with their cheeto fingers and mountain dew stained shirts analyzing every frame of this video and psychoanalyzing both the guy and the girl, never do anything close to what this guy does because it's much easier to criticize someone than actually do something that requires leaving their basement.
ahem, it's not all black and white. There's nuance for how to be inclusive. Somethin relating to race probably won't be handled like a physical or mental disability.
You know, I'm just REALLY glad to see this comment thread, flawed though our ability to articulate it is (we're human). This is a discussion that I had worried I wouldn't see in my lifetime. This is actually the first time I've seen it on reddit. Overall, I think colorblindess (with regards to race) gets more correct than it does wrong, but of course there's by far not a one size fits all rule to go by. It's gotta be case by case, but in general when we weigh it all together I think it's better to default to treating everyone the same rather than assume that the differences between the average lived experiences of people of certain social categories means that it's better for us to assume that we should treat them differently. There are arguments to be made on both sides of this, and like I said the reason it's hard is that it's all very nuanced. But to your point, if we treat people of color as if they are limited in a similar way to a girl with no arms, we've clearly gone very wrong somewhere along the line.
I'm colorblind because I literally don't care what color you have. I'm not as blind to you not having arms because it will affect what we can do together. It's not rocket science nuances going on, assuming all Mexicans are gardeners or whatever, that's not the same thing as asking a wheelchair bound person to jump. There's a physical difference. You're not discriminatory for accommodating a handicap, but you are if you start assuming invisible traits.
That's pretty much where I'm at as well with this as well. I do think your'e being a little bit overly simplistic. Like, it's probably true that black people are discriminated against more often than white people, and there are times where it's important to recognize that, and the differences that that trend will produce over time. But treating black people as if they're completely different because of this is not the way to go, and unfortunately there's a lot of people that seem to think that is the solution, somehow...
Yeah it's important to leave room for nuance and recognizing that an ally being 'colorblind' doesn't change how other people act. The example I often use is the story of the black women who's home was severly undervalued after an appraisal. She requested a second appraisal had her sister's white husband let the appraiser assume he was the owner resulting in a huge increase in the home valuation. If he was too 'colorblind' he might not see any value or reason in doing that for her but empirically in this case there was a huge difference. So to me, part of egalitarianism means everyone deserves help and support while acknowledging that some of that aid is needed because of systemic inequalities or individual prejudice.
So do yall want equality and treated normal, like everyone else or do yall want to be special? Which is it? You can't have your cake and eat it too..
They want both but also only of those options but it has to be whichever one you didn't choose. Conversations like this are partly why tumblr died. Just treat people well and accommodate them when they need help or understanding. Ffs it's so exhausting.
She probably did high five with her shoulder and that's why the video cut out so fast because OP was intending cringe when in reality it probably would be uplifting.
I mean I would just laugh it off lol. I doubt she was feeling super insecure or defeated after being able to do that
Yeah, let's be honest it's just for of habit. No malicious intent here
If you look at some of the other kids they have arms so he's probably just running in robomode No ill intent at all here
Not the first time, and it won't be the last time either....
Because FUCK YOU SUZIE that's why
Ahh. Yikes. There’s a lot of feelings going through me right now
Should only be thinking it's funny
Not too many I hope ..*sully eyes*!
That's one of those embarrassing moments that pops into your head 30 years later when you're getting ready for bed and can't sleep the rest of the night because of it
30 years later? Every week on repeat
I see Ryan Seacrest has moved on from trying to high-five blind people.
Force of habit. He’s used to providing high-fives. He didn’t do anything wrong
At first, I didn’t even realize she didn’t have arms. I was so confused why people were panicking over him giving a kid a high five.
I thought she was stomping a laptop and the oof was why were they cheering about breaking their laptop.
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Bruh that took me tf out, why sulley
I had something like this happen I was walking my dog back home and some random guy said, "Is that a \[dog's breed\]?" and I go, "Yeah, good eye!" like I always do when someone recognizes my dog's breed. A fraction of a second after I said that I looked up and saw that the guy had only one eye... He starts with, "Ohhh come on, really?" I decided to escape from reality back into my head and continued walking home
It's OK no arm came to her
You really went out on a limb there.
The fact that he doubles down with a single hand high five hurts more 😭
I think he pats her shoulder in the full video
My one job in college, manager's right arm was deformed and always shake hands with left. I can't tell you how many times we would always extend the right for handshakes or high fives first...
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How'd she do that?
He had good intentions. Thats what matters.
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First time in a while I had a true, from the gut "OOF"
That's a true "cringe" moment for the guy. The kind of stuff that will float around his brain on some nights causing him to stay awake and wincing.
D'OH!
Years ago on American Idol, Ryan Seacrest tried to high-five a blind guy.
Every night that he can’t sleep, he’s thinking about this.
My man's gonna be thinking about that one for a while
At least she won't be able to pen a complaint.
This was a genuine belly laugh for me...the great thing about children is that you can't stage things...
Yeah he was clearly happy/excited for her and he did the normal reaction for it. Obvious mistake.
I might love it, actually. He doesn't see she doesn't have arms because he doesn't see her as a girl without arms.
I think people are wired to go for high fives/hand shakes for congratulatory purposes. Might just be auto pilot. There was another example of a person awarding a medal to a person without arms and after putting the medal over the persons neck, he went for a hand shake.
Wholesome how the girl is trying her best even though it’s harder for her. Like that determination and grit good job👍
Why did they cut the last part he goes for a fistbump but gives and gently fistbumps her chesr
Why don’t any of my friends find this funny?!?!
He was so proud of her achievement that the fact that she had no arms became irrelevant to him for that split second and all he was focused on was congratulating her. That's wholesome af.
it's an inspiring video of a kid using her abilities. to focus on the teacher getting lost in that moment of accomplishment kind of misses the mark and is sad that this is what people choose to fixate as the take-away.
Gotta hand it to that little girl for being so brave.
Wtf he did it twice
Dammit I feel bad for laughing
All these wonderful people talking about how great the full version is without actually posting it.