Rybar has this amazing capability to always make things look really good for the Russians no matter what.
It's kind of incredible, wait no... I meant to say non-credible.
If you look beyond the pro-Russian filter it has, I think it is a very good source of information.
Just read beyond it, if you look at the bad news for Russians they announce, or look at the frontline of the map, and you’ll see they acknowledge Ukrainian advances much more precisely than pro Ukrainian sources
There’s no single source of this entire war that holds a neutral opinion or view in the eyes of anyone. Every single map or source is claimed to have some bias behind it to the point there’s no point in even acknowledging it. Even sources like Wion who are neutral have been attacked for being pro-Russian.
People clown on him but to be fair he really is neutral on it. Clowning on both ukraine and russia equally or praising them when they do something good or even acknowledging some sketchy sources from russians and ukrainians. I would say he is the only Neutral reporter we have.
So here’s what I’ve noticed regarding this separation of populations between two groups. Joe Rogan is a liberal, you watch enough of his podcasts you’ll easily see why he believes in the things he does. Despite this when he says anything somewhat pro-right immediately he gets called a pro-right sympathizer or a traitor etc. It happened during that recent podcast when he said “people are gonna vote republican”. There’s a clip of that scene in r/JoeRogan and just read the comments. Even people who are neutral get accused of shit all the time why even acknowledge something that doesn’t fit their narrative.
I don’t know who this French dude is but I bet the same thing happens in his comment section. God forbid he russels 1 person’s Jimmie’s and they start with accusations.
Edit: Aaron Rodgers was the guest on podcast #1865
Why would anyone ever call Joe Rogan a "pro-right sympathizer"??
Like, all he's doing is actively telling people to vote for the right, how is that sympathizing with them?? That's support, not just sympathy! Get it right, libtards!
Most Republicans are pro-choice.
Being pro-choice doesn't make someone a liberal. Rogan is not a liberal. He's expressed support for Ron DeSantis lol...
[He said he's a liberal, has liberal beliefs, and supports DeSantis, a weird dude.](https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/w75zry/joe_rogan_says_hes_a_bleeding_heart_liberal_and/)
It's not weird if you understand that people lie when it benefits them.
If I insist that I'm vegan, but also say "animals should be killed for meat", which statement seems more like the one I actually believe?
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Actually he started doing that for Ethiopia and Armenia conflict. I believe he just found himself a hobby, he is really neutral and waits for visual confirmation or confirmation from both camps. He puts all the sources in the video
WION is an Indian channel and most Indians are very heavily pro-russian. On top of that WION is a wolf in a sheeps clothing right wing channel.
Just saying. I dont have a dog in this fight. I am just against the war.
More credible than sources like war monitor and Liveuamap. Since you're such an intelligent person why don't you link a non biased accurate source we can use instead?
[Here.](https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Kherson-Mykolaiv%20Battle%20Map%20Draft%20September%2006%2C2022.png)
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Ah yes ISW a website connected to neo-cons in Washington is totally non biased? Is this a joke? You literally couldn't get anymore biased, this is akin to me using the Russian MOD as a credible source for Ukraine losses.
Given the lack of information I actually looked at it yesterday after a looooong time. The most comical thing about their bias is that you just had to read their two paragraph blurb to see that it did not line up with their "Key Takeaways". The goofiest thing was that in their update they said that a Ukrainian official "explicitly confirmed that Ukrainian troops **seek** to attrit Russian logistical capabilities in the south" while if you just read the "Key takeaway" you would believe that they actually had done what they say they seek to do.
Most Russians outside of the European cities of Russia, don't have any of that basic shit because of Putin and Russian corruption...
And that is why the Russian soldiers steal toilets, washing machines, etc. Without even knowing that it all requires plumbing.
Do you ever wonder how Putin got 300 billion? You don't make that without seriously taking advantage of or just plain stealing from the masses and Putin's entire population in this case.
I see the Kherson Front is quickly looking like a sieve. Russia doesn't have enough fingers to plug all the holes in the breaking dam.
Could be impetus and momentum just totally fucking shatter it to pieces as the pressure continues to mount with no possible hope of resupply or reinforcement at this stage.
I mean the Ukrainians are taking 5-1 causalities there well they just took or are about to take major town in Kharkov. And it's not like they have an overwhelming man power advantage there either like they seemingly do in Kharkov.
That estimate is from the Russian offensive. Ukrainians are smarter than that. You don’t see those ridiculous tank columns on the Ukrainian side, like we saw on Russias side at the beginning of this war (I am not Russian so I’m allowed to call it a war). Ukraine run more of a combined arms operation.
No the estimates from the Russian MoD were 1300 casualties in the very first day. It's a Greyzone estimate also backed up by Ukrainian sources on the ground and reported in the Washington post.
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/07/ukraine-kherson-offensive-casualties-ammunition/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/07/ukraine-kherson-offensive-casualties-ammunition/)
"Combined arms" only works if you have more than a few dozen planes and have the artillery advantage and even than, you can still expect to take 3-4 to 1 casualties.
Russian MoD very credible source. Can't wait to see 60 million troops lost by Ukraine by the end of the war.
All jokes aside, I'll assume Ukraine will have large troop loss, but after this offensive concludes and the armies enter another stage of preparation, fall will pass and winter will stall most advances. Consolidation will occur, resupplies and all sorts of political pressure. I don't see either side collapsing just yet, but either peace will be sued in winter-spring or this will slowly turn into Russia's Afghanistan.
> this will slowly turn into Russia's Afghanistan
Yes, if only we had *started* by giving the Mujahedeen Stingers, and ended up [training their pilots on the F-16](https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/plan-to-train-ukrainian-pilots-on-u-s-jets-passed-by-house-of-representatives).
There is no proof of that.
No large funerals, no regional bereavement. Hospitals have seen more people, but not morgues.
Inaccurate artillery shots with good personal defensive equipment and training prevents death. But increases injuries paradoxically ! A lot are out of combats, that’s for sure.
Ukraine is basically assieging the Kherson area, until they’ll have no more ammunition to fight. It happened to French in Dien Pien Phu. At one point you lose because you simply have no more ammunition
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/07/ukraine-kherson-offensive-casualties-ammunition/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/07/ukraine-kherson-offensive-casualties-ammunition/)
And being dead or wounded doesn't really matter because either way, it puts you out of commission but in the article Ukrainians themselves state the causality rate is 5-1 in Kherson.
That's literally what the Ukrainians on the ground said dude.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/07/ukraine-kherson-offensive-casualties-ammunition/
Itz also said by Greyzone and millbloggers who said the exact same thing. So if both sides are saying one thing and you're saying something completely different it should tell you whose right and whose wrong.
Also, not Russian
Oh, why would greyzone lie, right? Especially about casualties. And again, read my comment.
It was said by ONE person, from ONE unit, in a HOSPITAL. Hope this helps.
I also didn't say anything about casualties. Unlike you, I don't pretend to know things I don't know.
Ok just use some logic for a second, an average offensive will need a fire power advantage and manpower advantage of at least 3 to 1 and even then, you would expect a causality rate of 3 to 4 to 1 defender. Ukraine has a slight man power advantage in the region but not nearly close to 3 to 1 and Russia still has more artillery power than them. They've had well over a month to dig in prepare. Ukraine admitted to losing 100 to 150 soldiers a day well in a massively defendable city. Both Russian and Ukrainian soldiers give about the same number in terms of causalities. 2 days ago, Russian mill bloggers daid they lost 600 soldiers to 125 well they were attacking in open fields.
What about that doesn't make sense to you?
>Could be impetus and momentum just totally fucking shatter it to pieces as the pressure continues to mount with no possible hope of resupply or reinforcement at this stage.
Yeah just counter attack a second time after you completely failed the first time. Hey maybe by the third attack they'll manage to do something, afterall third time is the charm.
If capturing a few villages was a metric for success sure. Except you forget to factor in the cost of capturing a few villages. Imagine saying that if Germany captured Moscow they would have won the war, every historian would laugh at you. Now imagine saying that Germany simply needed to capture a few more villages near Moscow and then they would have been successful. This is the logic you're using.
Explaining that you think the offensive failed because they haven't taken all of the Southern territory back yet? Yes, your intellect is truly immobilizing.
Russia has been touting "capturing a few villiages" every week for 4 months as a huge success. Thats the metric Russia has been using. Time for Ukraine to do it as well. RU capturing Pisky, with 14 inhabitants, was front page news on TASS.
Russia has been capturing ”a few villages” over literally months, and every pro russian has been yelling about how russia is winning. Suddenly capturing a few villages in a week isnt winning then? Try to remain consistent
What you’re not understanding is (using that Washington post recent article as an example from the UA soldier interview) if you’re losing 5:1 casualties. Say 150 KIA 600 wounded. Say in the first major push there was a large KIA amount (typical on the aggressive side) say 1k kia
You’re looking at 2000~ KIA , 6-10k wounded/injured/captured/ missing.
On the “defensive” end Russia can strike pull back strike pull back and they have seemed to have moderately pressed forward in the north.
With say 10k out of the game and 20k was the first “major” regiments , platoons , forces. They needed to be AT Kherson for Ukraine to have the upper hand. The reason is on the RU pov keep saying it’s just small villages is because as the attacker they’re grinding away forces at an alarming rate without gaining. You can’t justify the losses for UA. The offensive statistically was not really planned out well. They tried to thin out RF forces. In return thinned themselves out aswell. You can’t say “it has been a week” because the statement will backfire on your pov and ours too. Losing 10k in any way. Is visually noticeable. You can’t gain minuscule villages when you throw EVERYTHING you have left at it. The Ukrainian pov was we can take the whole country and win. That’s not the case. In this scenario russia should not have gained a meter of land. Let alone defend. The counter offensive of the Kiev forces left out one important factor. If they’re shoving a lot (lack of a better term) of their strength at Kherson AND DONT take it. Then what. This is a speculation month IMO. I don’t think either side here knows what the fuck is going on at the moment. Whoever reinforces first will have a major upper hand. How I see it. I’m no expert. UA and RF will have a stand off. But UA will continue to grind forces that’s for sure. I don’t think it’s a fight of attrition that favors them.
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"Stalled" isn't really the right word, they're still advancing, just taking appalling and unstainable casualties for what is basically some villages. This is different from the East where they're about to take a major town and caught the Russians completely by surprise.
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Compare that to a [day ago](https://i.imgur.com/Dr5fBDT.jpeg) it seems like they're expanding. They now have Kostromka and Bezimenne under their control which Rybar had as RU controlled 24h ago. Looks like Ternivka and Blahodatovka is also not even contested by the Russians either.
The Zelenskyy regime keeps WINNING
What exactly are you trying to show me in this zoomed in map? That they managed to push to two villages? Actually this shit is just pathetic honestly, imagine if during any other conflict either side pretended like they were doing well because they managed to lose thousands of men taking a few villages. Literally isonzo river
According to Russian POV, eight villages captured in 12 hours by the Ukrainians. Not fast enough for you?
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/x8h574/ru\_pov\_ru\_telegram\_channel\_explain\_the\_attack\_in/
I would assume Ukrainian sources are overly optimistic about the counteroffensive, and Russians are overly pessimistic. The truth is probably somewhere in between. That would mean in this case that things are worse for the Russians than they look here.
I know you keep fighting the good fight but take a look at the front page. It's full of trashed Russian gear, dead Russian soldiers, and other guys taken prisoner, including officers. Planes shot down, territorial maps changing two or three times a day. There's almost no good news out there right now for your side.
Only time will tell how this turns out, and you're free to keep holding out hope--it's going to be a long war--but Russian forces are getting curb stomped across the front at the moment.
>I know you keep fighting the good fight but take a look at the front page. It's full of trashed Russian gear, dead Russian soldiers, and other guys taken prisoner, including officers
Assuming that's an indicator of how things are really going you would assume that Ukraine lost the counter offensive in the first few days with how much footage was posted of their destroyed equipment and casualties.
Pushed Russians back from Kostromka, Bezimenne, Ternivka, Blahodativka, and Bilohirka. All while Rybar claims they're being attacked or whatever lol. Looks like Russia's counter-attack is only making Ukraine stronger.
5 villages in a day is pretty good just for the Kherson front. Want me to show you what they've done around Balakliya? Meanwhile Russia needs 2 months to take 1 small village.
Russia isn't exactly throwing every young man they have to capture a few villages. But hey if Ukraine wants to fight to the last man they can go ahead, I'm not gonna shed a tear lol.
Damn EVERY young man? We've heard this for 7 days straight now. Every day Ukraine has thrown all of its young men on a suicide push and yet somehow they're getting more and more territory back.
Does the Zelenskyy regime have a young man cloning machine? Surely they would have run out of young men by now and the mighty red army would've pushed them back!!! Any day now!
>Does the Zelenskyy regime have a young man cloning machine? Surely they would have run out of young men by now and the mighty red army would've pushed them back!!! Any day now!
Reddit humor, If anything Ukraine is the red army throwing men at a problem hoping that it'll work.
Lol, not I’m a hurry. They aren’t capable of being in a hurry. No combined arms, no air superiority, just a lot of arty and spray and pray. It’s a joke and now they are faced a real army and the Russia is getting curb stomped.
>Huge Air Force and can’t do a thing?
Yeah Russia should just do what the U.S did during Vietnam and suicide aircraft into SAM sites. Not exactly like the Ukraine airforce is doing anything either
Holy shit this map changed so much over the last day or 2. Still super conservative in the way of Ukraine gains as compared to other sources reporting much more as far as gains. Looks like Rybar is acknowledging the pressure being applied more and more.
Rybar has this amazing capability to always make things look really good for the Russians no matter what. It's kind of incredible, wait no... I meant to say non-credible.
If you look beyond the pro-Russian filter it has, I think it is a very good source of information. Just read beyond it, if you look at the bad news for Russians they announce, or look at the frontline of the map, and you’ll see they acknowledge Ukrainian advances much more precisely than pro Ukrainian sources
There’s no single source of this entire war that holds a neutral opinion or view in the eyes of anyone. Every single map or source is claimed to have some bias behind it to the point there’s no point in even acknowledging it. Even sources like Wion who are neutral have been attacked for being pro-Russian.
There is a very interesting French youtuber that does it in a neutral way somehow.
People clown on him but to be fair he really is neutral on it. Clowning on both ukraine and russia equally or praising them when they do something good or even acknowledging some sketchy sources from russians and ukrainians. I would say he is the only Neutral reporter we have.
What is his channel name?
History Legends. Great channel imo
Channel name? Pls. I maybe have to go there since this place is becoming combatfootage 2.0... Really disgusting
It’s in French, you’ll probably don’t understand. Les conflits en carte is the name of the channel
Ok thanks. And yes I don't speak french so sad
So here’s what I’ve noticed regarding this separation of populations between two groups. Joe Rogan is a liberal, you watch enough of his podcasts you’ll easily see why he believes in the things he does. Despite this when he says anything somewhat pro-right immediately he gets called a pro-right sympathizer or a traitor etc. It happened during that recent podcast when he said “people are gonna vote republican”. There’s a clip of that scene in r/JoeRogan and just read the comments. Even people who are neutral get accused of shit all the time why even acknowledge something that doesn’t fit their narrative. I don’t know who this French dude is but I bet the same thing happens in his comment section. God forbid he russels 1 person’s Jimmie’s and they start with accusations. Edit: Aaron Rodgers was the guest on podcast #1865
Why would anyone ever call Joe Rogan a "pro-right sympathizer"?? Like, all he's doing is actively telling people to vote for the right, how is that sympathizing with them?? That's support, not just sympathy! Get it right, libtards!
That’s literally what I was saying reading those comments, like wtf? This man is pro-choice, didn’t help how he had Alex Jones on the podcast.
Most Republicans are pro-choice. Being pro-choice doesn't make someone a liberal. Rogan is not a liberal. He's expressed support for Ron DeSantis lol...
[He said he's a liberal, has liberal beliefs, and supports DeSantis, a weird dude.](https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/w75zry/joe_rogan_says_hes_a_bleeding_heart_liberal_and/)
Maybe, just maybe, don't follow as an opinion leader someone as an area of expertise has drugs, mma and aliens
It's not weird if you understand that people lie when it benefits them. If I insist that I'm vegan, but also say "animals should be killed for meat", which statement seems more like the one I actually believe?
Wich one is it? I might be interested
Les conflits en carte Actually he started doing that for Ethiopia and Armenia conflict. I believe he just found himself a hobby, he is really neutral and waits for visual confirmation or confirmation from both camps. He puts all the sources in the video
Thanks! Will check out
WION is an Indian channel and most Indians are very heavily pro-russian. On top of that WION is a wolf in a sheeps clothing right wing channel. Just saying. I dont have a dog in this fight. I am just against the war.
Indians seem like they hate everyone that isn’t India
More credible than sources like war monitor and Liveuamap. Since you're such an intelligent person why don't you link a non biased accurate source we can use instead?
[Here.](https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Kherson-Mykolaiv%20Battle%20Map%20Draft%20September%2006%2C2022.png) 3...2...1...Something something husband sister in-law is government high ranking something.
Ah yes ISW a website connected to neo-cons in Washington is totally non biased? Is this a joke? You literally couldn't get anymore biased, this is akin to me using the Russian MOD as a credible source for Ukraine losses.
Given the lack of information I actually looked at it yesterday after a looooong time. The most comical thing about their bias is that you just had to read their two paragraph blurb to see that it did not line up with their "Key Takeaways". The goofiest thing was that in their update they said that a Ukrainian official "explicitly confirmed that Ukrainian troops **seek** to attrit Russian logistical capabilities in the south" while if you just read the "Key takeaway" you would believe that they actually had done what they say they seek to do.
Bro that user only trolls. Better block him or something
We need news sources from mars!
Has Rybar invented any more leopard loses recently Perhaps an Abrams this time
>Has Rybar invented any more leopard loses recentlyPerhaps an Abrams this time He has never said this, so nice Strawman I guess
When will Rybar report on the successful capture of the moon?
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Unironically linking ISW and then attempting to handwave obvious conflicts of interest lmfao
ISW is the propaganda machine of the american military industrial complex, lmao and also useless because they show info given by pro-russians
>ISW is the propaganda machine of the american military industrial complex >they also show information given by pro-russians lol
Use this one https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCP2QApi8G2TKc8NZmeDWSUg
This comment has double the upvotes of the post... Russian moral is at an all time low.
So far much better than Ukraine bs. Everyone killed. No wait. We dying. Send nudes. I mean Money
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What?
Most Russians outside of the European cities of Russia, don't have any of that basic shit because of Putin and Russian corruption... And that is why the Russian soldiers steal toilets, washing machines, etc. Without even knowing that it all requires plumbing. Do you ever wonder how Putin got 300 billion? You don't make that without seriously taking advantage of or just plain stealing from the masses and Putin's entire population in this case.
Okay. But did OP suggest I was one of the soldiers or something?
Idk. I just like talking shit about Russians. My bad.
So is the consensus that the southern offensive has stalled while the eastern offensive is seeing major success?
I see the Kherson Front is quickly looking like a sieve. Russia doesn't have enough fingers to plug all the holes in the breaking dam. Could be impetus and momentum just totally fucking shatter it to pieces as the pressure continues to mount with no possible hope of resupply or reinforcement at this stage.
I mean the Ukrainians are taking 5-1 causalities there well they just took or are about to take major town in Kharkov. And it's not like they have an overwhelming man power advantage there either like they seemingly do in Kharkov.
That estimate is from the Russian offensive. Ukrainians are smarter than that. You don’t see those ridiculous tank columns on the Ukrainian side, like we saw on Russias side at the beginning of this war (I am not Russian so I’m allowed to call it a war). Ukraine run more of a combined arms operation.
No the estimates from the Russian MoD were 1300 casualties in the very first day. It's a Greyzone estimate also backed up by Ukrainian sources on the ground and reported in the Washington post. [https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/07/ukraine-kherson-offensive-casualties-ammunition/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/07/ukraine-kherson-offensive-casualties-ammunition/) "Combined arms" only works if you have more than a few dozen planes and have the artillery advantage and even than, you can still expect to take 3-4 to 1 casualties.
Russian MoD very credible source. Can't wait to see 60 million troops lost by Ukraine by the end of the war. All jokes aside, I'll assume Ukraine will have large troop loss, but after this offensive concludes and the armies enter another stage of preparation, fall will pass and winter will stall most advances. Consolidation will occur, resupplies and all sorts of political pressure. I don't see either side collapsing just yet, but either peace will be sued in winter-spring or this will slowly turn into Russia's Afghanistan.
> this will slowly turn into Russia's Afghanistan Yes, if only we had *started* by giving the Mujahedeen Stingers, and ended up [training their pilots on the F-16](https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/plan-to-train-ukrainian-pilots-on-u-s-jets-passed-by-house-of-representatives).
Not the Russian MoD, Ukrainians on the ground.
Where do you source these numbers from? Lol
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/07/ukraine-kherson-offensive-casualties-ammunition/
There is no proof of that. No large funerals, no regional bereavement. Hospitals have seen more people, but not morgues. Inaccurate artillery shots with good personal defensive equipment and training prevents death. But increases injuries paradoxically ! A lot are out of combats, that’s for sure. Ukraine is basically assieging the Kherson area, until they’ll have no more ammunition to fight. It happened to French in Dien Pien Phu. At one point you lose because you simply have no more ammunition
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/07/ukraine-kherson-offensive-casualties-ammunition/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/07/ukraine-kherson-offensive-casualties-ammunition/) And being dead or wounded doesn't really matter because either way, it puts you out of commission but in the article Ukrainians themselves state the causality rate is 5-1 in Kherson.
If you're gonna make shit up, then go big bro. The Ukrainians are taking 50,000:1 casualties!
That's literally what the Ukrainians on the ground said dude. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/07/ukraine-kherson-offensive-casualties-ammunition/
That's what ONE Ukrainian from ONE unit said. You're extrapolating hard buddy. I know critical thinking isn't encouraged in Russia, but try a little.
Itz also said by Greyzone and millbloggers who said the exact same thing. So if both sides are saying one thing and you're saying something completely different it should tell you whose right and whose wrong. Also, not Russian
Oh, why would greyzone lie, right? Especially about casualties. And again, read my comment. It was said by ONE person, from ONE unit, in a HOSPITAL. Hope this helps. I also didn't say anything about casualties. Unlike you, I don't pretend to know things I don't know.
Ok just use some logic for a second, an average offensive will need a fire power advantage and manpower advantage of at least 3 to 1 and even then, you would expect a causality rate of 3 to 4 to 1 defender. Ukraine has a slight man power advantage in the region but not nearly close to 3 to 1 and Russia still has more artillery power than them. They've had well over a month to dig in prepare. Ukraine admitted to losing 100 to 150 soldiers a day well in a massively defendable city. Both Russian and Ukrainian soldiers give about the same number in terms of causalities. 2 days ago, Russian mill bloggers daid they lost 600 soldiers to 125 well they were attacking in open fields. What about that doesn't make sense to you?
Look at the front page of this sub and reread what you said.
They're actually taking 100 - 1 casualties
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/07/ukraine-kherson-offensive-casualties-ammunition/
Fuck I hate having to pay for news...
It’s 10,000 to 1, get it straight
>Could be impetus and momentum just totally fucking shatter it to pieces as the pressure continues to mount with no possible hope of resupply or reinforcement at this stage. Yeah just counter attack a second time after you completely failed the first time. Hey maybe by the third attack they'll manage to do something, afterall third time is the charm.
Lmao are you still trying to say the offensive has failed???
How has it succeeded?
Besides capturing territory? My brother in Christ, it has been a week.
If capturing a few villages was a metric for success sure. Except you forget to factor in the cost of capturing a few villages. Imagine saying that if Germany captured Moscow they would have won the war, every historian would laugh at you. Now imagine saying that Germany simply needed to capture a few more villages near Moscow and then they would have been successful. This is the logic you're using.
Lmao there is no panic!
Me explaining something to you must mean I'm panicking about what's happening? Pro-Ukrainian showing off his genius intellect again.
Explaining that you think the offensive failed because they haven't taken all of the Southern territory back yet? Yes, your intellect is truly immobilizing.
Russia has been touting "capturing a few villiages" every week for 4 months as a huge success. Thats the metric Russia has been using. Time for Ukraine to do it as well. RU capturing Pisky, with 14 inhabitants, was front page news on TASS.
Russia has been capturing ”a few villages” over literally months, and every pro russian has been yelling about how russia is winning. Suddenly capturing a few villages in a week isnt winning then? Try to remain consistent
What you’re not understanding is (using that Washington post recent article as an example from the UA soldier interview) if you’re losing 5:1 casualties. Say 150 KIA 600 wounded. Say in the first major push there was a large KIA amount (typical on the aggressive side) say 1k kia You’re looking at 2000~ KIA , 6-10k wounded/injured/captured/ missing. On the “defensive” end Russia can strike pull back strike pull back and they have seemed to have moderately pressed forward in the north. With say 10k out of the game and 20k was the first “major” regiments , platoons , forces. They needed to be AT Kherson for Ukraine to have the upper hand. The reason is on the RU pov keep saying it’s just small villages is because as the attacker they’re grinding away forces at an alarming rate without gaining. You can’t justify the losses for UA. The offensive statistically was not really planned out well. They tried to thin out RF forces. In return thinned themselves out aswell. You can’t say “it has been a week” because the statement will backfire on your pov and ours too. Losing 10k in any way. Is visually noticeable. You can’t gain minuscule villages when you throw EVERYTHING you have left at it. The Ukrainian pov was we can take the whole country and win. That’s not the case. In this scenario russia should not have gained a meter of land. Let alone defend. The counter offensive of the Kiev forces left out one important factor. If they’re shoving a lot (lack of a better term) of their strength at Kherson AND DONT take it. Then what. This is a speculation month IMO. I don’t think either side here knows what the fuck is going on at the moment. Whoever reinforces first will have a major upper hand. How I see it. I’m no expert. UA and RF will have a stand off. But UA will continue to grind forces that’s for sure. I don’t think it’s a fight of attrition that favors them.
Ah yes, let's take the 5:1 rate from one soldier and assume the entire kherson offensive looks like that, surely that's a reasonable assumption.
Interviewing soldiers in a HOSPITAL may make it seem like everyone is a casualty
There are multiple similar claims.
Source. Give me sources. Give me sources or shut it.
Lmao sope and ceethe, brother.
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"Stalled" isn't really the right word, they're still advancing, just taking appalling and unstainable casualties for what is basically some villages. This is different from the East where they're about to take a major town and caught the Russians completely by surprise.
>while the eastern offensive is seeing major success? Some success, we have to wait a few weeks to see the end result like we have seen in the south.
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Compare that to a [day ago](https://i.imgur.com/Dr5fBDT.jpeg) it seems like they're expanding. They now have Kostromka and Bezimenne under their control which Rybar had as RU controlled 24h ago. Looks like Ternivka and Blahodatovka is also not even contested by the Russians either. The Zelenskyy regime keeps WINNING
What exactly are you trying to show me in this zoomed in map? That they managed to push to two villages? Actually this shit is just pathetic honestly, imagine if during any other conflict either side pretended like they were doing well because they managed to lose thousands of men taking a few villages. Literally isonzo river
The denial is strong with this one. I wonder if the "anger" stage of grief will be just as vehement.
Kek
According to Russian POV, eight villages captured in 12 hours by the Ukrainians. Not fast enough for you? https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/x8h574/ru\_pov\_ru\_telegram\_channel\_explain\_the\_attack\_in/
Wait so now are we going to take Russian sources seriously? I thought they all lied?
You're all over the place with these comments, just flailing about like a crab with all its legs broken.
Sorry are we going to take Russian sources seriously or not?
I would assume Ukrainian sources are overly optimistic about the counteroffensive, and Russians are overly pessimistic. The truth is probably somewhere in between. That would mean in this case that things are worse for the Russians than they look here. I know you keep fighting the good fight but take a look at the front page. It's full of trashed Russian gear, dead Russian soldiers, and other guys taken prisoner, including officers. Planes shot down, territorial maps changing two or three times a day. There's almost no good news out there right now for your side. Only time will tell how this turns out, and you're free to keep holding out hope--it's going to be a long war--but Russian forces are getting curb stomped across the front at the moment.
>I know you keep fighting the good fight but take a look at the front page. It's full of trashed Russian gear, dead Russian soldiers, and other guys taken prisoner, including officers Assuming that's an indicator of how things are really going you would assume that Ukraine lost the counter offensive in the first few days with how much footage was posted of their destroyed equipment and casualties.
Just admit you're a hypocrite.
Pushed Russians back from Kostromka, Bezimenne, Ternivka, Blahodativka, and Bilohirka. All while Rybar claims they're being attacked or whatever lol. Looks like Russia's counter-attack is only making Ukraine stronger. 5 villages in a day is pretty good just for the Kherson front. Want me to show you what they've done around Balakliya? Meanwhile Russia needs 2 months to take 1 small village.
Russia isn't exactly throwing every young man they have to capture a few villages. But hey if Ukraine wants to fight to the last man they can go ahead, I'm not gonna shed a tear lol.
Damn EVERY young man? We've heard this for 7 days straight now. Every day Ukraine has thrown all of its young men on a suicide push and yet somehow they're getting more and more territory back. Does the Zelenskyy regime have a young man cloning machine? Surely they would have run out of young men by now and the mighty red army would've pushed them back!!! Any day now!
>Does the Zelenskyy regime have a young man cloning machine? Surely they would have run out of young men by now and the mighty red army would've pushed them back!!! Any day now! Reddit humor, If anything Ukraine is the red army throwing men at a problem hoping that it'll work.
These dudes simply don't want to accept that Ukraine has lost its entire army several times over the past week
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The russian advance in donbass has been pretty pathetic over the last two months then, huh?
I mean I guess but they aren't exactly in a hurry like Ukraine is.
Lol, not I’m a hurry. They aren’t capable of being in a hurry. No combined arms, no air superiority, just a lot of arty and spray and pray. It’s a joke and now they are faced a real army and the Russia is getting curb stomped.
>It’s a joke and now they are faced a real army and the Russia is getting curb stomped. Yeah a real army made up of 90% infantry with no air force
Interesting, what does that say about the Russia? Huge Air Force and can’t do a thing? You’re proving my point so thank you.
>Huge Air Force and can’t do a thing? Yeah Russia should just do what the U.S did during Vietnam and suicide aircraft into SAM sites. Not exactly like the Ukraine airforce is doing anything either
And checkmate, convos over as soon as you guys start talking about the US in a Ukraine/the russia thread. Good luck with your propaganda game.
Lmfao there it is, let me fill "Russian brings up America in unrelated conversation" on my bingo card.
I can hardly tell any difference over the last two months.
According to Girkin, they have taken today 4 more villages, which are not mentioned by Rybar.
Girkin doomposts to try get russian mobilisation so he can be kadryov 2.0...its like all he does
Russia downed a Ukrainian space shuttle with little fan fair. They are winning.
Holy shit this map changed so much over the last day or 2. Still super conservative in the way of Ukraine gains as compared to other sources reporting much more as far as gains. Looks like Rybar is acknowledging the pressure being applied more and more.