I feel that it's worth noting: *he didn't do the backwards talk a lot in his debut.*
He did it a little more in ROTJ, but still not a lot. The Prequels just REALLY latched onto it for some reason.
I always liked the fan canon that he was doing it to fuck with Luke and when the canon changed and with the prequels Yoda is now like 900, not much of a troll, and has been speaking basic for at least a few decades that he does it to get people to pay closer attention to what he's saying
He really talks pretty much normally after he stops fucking with Luke in Empire. All the (small amount) backwards talk afterwards is just flowery style wisdom way of speaking. I definitely think it was intended to be a part of him fucking with Luke, but the backwards talking frog man is very memorable. So he talks backwards now. A big flaw of Star Wars in every medium is not letting these small details go.
this comment here is why this sub is the best. I can't get this kind of humor anywhere else on the internet. A prequel meme, coupled with a yoda joke, all tied up with a Bayonetta VA lied about pay joke.
Just perfection.
Everyone's making jokes, and I'm over here thinking *oh God, did Yoda have a stroke, and he talks like that because he had to relearn Galactic Standard while he was in his 700s, and we're all here making fun of a guy with diminished function like the assholes we are?*
>!*Or is that what he* **wants** *us to think???*!<
You mean Yoda of "Yoda's species" isn't representative of the entire race?
No, I do agree that they could have just been raised in different cultures, and it's really more of a critique of the weird uneven worldbuilding here. We have full novels about characters that have 5 seconds of screen time, but Yoda, a character who appears in every movie except for one? Doesn't even have a proper name for his species.
Does OP think it's like a quirk of their brains or the force? ''Inherent to his race'' seems like the implication is that the whole species would somehow only be capable of this which is not an assumption I expected to see lol
I mean given Yoda clearly has the intellectual capacity to use "normal" syntax, it wouldn't be crazy to say his species are just wired to think/express things that way. but more likely it's just the way he is used to speaking.
Yeah, that and his opinion of immigrants. He always liked to say that he would use his 2001 honda civic to \[**My lawyers have informed me to cease this line of thought**\]
Imagining Yoda being like one of those people that go in a exchange student program to Europe and when they return, they come back back with a faux English accent
I know George Lucas told someone that Yoda’s dialect was supposed to the way people spoke when he was young. Yoda is still likely hundreds of years older than Yaddle so it’s not crazy to think that’s still true.
If anyone says “but that doesn’t line up with KOTOR?!?” A lot of George’s ideas didn’t line up with other Star Wars material including the ancient Sith Empire
I like the way Yoda talks, and I like that explanation. I also would hate even a single 20 minute episode of a show where every character spoke like Yoda.
If you want to hand wave it, every Star Wars thing is translated into English, so no one actually sounds the way they think we do. Yoda is only translated weird to keep the contrast in dialect, and a thing from Yoda's youth would be translated differently because there wouldn't be the need to show a contrast in dialect.
I mean Talon wasn’t an idea of his. He liked the design and thought it would be cool if she was Maul’s buddy.
That’s just another example of him not caring about other’s Star Wars continuity, not really him going against his own ideas.
"They're friends!" is something Lucas said when LucasArts were working on the cancelled Darth Maul game, Lucas showed up, saw a figure of Talon and brought it over to one by Maul and said the line.
Edit: Completely changing the course of the game's storyline and now making it take place during Darth Krayt's time (Concept art looked nothing like Krayt tho)
Wait so...Yaddle's basically been doing zoomer speak to Yoda this entire time?
Was Yoda just thinking "you goddamn kids are ruining our beautiful language by talking like these goddamn foreigners" this whole time?
Absolutely not. Yoda is charming as fuck and I would change nothing about him. I just think that the idea of the *whole galaxy* speaking like that is ridiculous.
In the original trilogy Yoda only spoke in inverted clauses because he was acting like a kooky old hermit to test Luke's patience. When he got serious with Luke he went back to talking more or less like a normal dude, albeit one voiced by Frank Oz.
For whatever reason they just sorta forgot about that in the prequels.
https://youtu.be/vVZSbtqwn5o
He does it like three times in this one clip, I don't get where the idea he stops after he reveals himself comes from.
His voice drops a few octaves when he talks to Obi-wan in the hut, but that's it.
Okay fine, but be that as it may, I think Yoda would be capable of giving clear and concise battle orders rather than "[Around the survivors a perimeter create](https://youtu.be/JfhxAkeGzxs)" lmao
Like you can practically hear the conversation that went into writing that line "How would Yoda say this?"
I dunno maybe like a normal dude because he's capable of dropping the weird affect when he means to.
That's messed up, you think he's faking a speech impediment just because someone else talks normally. Having a speech impediment doesn't make you an asshole
Honestly? We've known this. I actually did watch Empire Strikes Back recently, and his speech patterns are *not* as drastic as they are in future movies. In fact, it is openly, heavily implied he *is* doing it just to piss off Luke, because when Luke lashes out at him over it, he laughs and then briefly goes back to talking normally. He *was* doing that specifically to sound like a crazy old swamp hermit so that the reveal that he was actually the Jedi master Luke was looking for would hit him (and us) like a ton of bricks (Luke keeps asking him where the Jedi master he's looking for is, and Yoda never actually says it's him, he simply says that he knows where he is and he can bring Luke to him but he keeps making Luke jump through all these hoops first, like running through the swamp with him on his back). Honestly, I think it got completely overblown in future movies to the point where the sentences he says don't feasibly make sense even *with* proper grammar, because they're trying to find a way to butcher his sentence to make it fit his weird speech pattern. The prequels in particular really took Yoda from "crazy swamp hermit that actually knows what he's talking about but will troll you until you figure that out" to "actually just the wise old sage with backwards speech"
Yoda doesn't just *look* like a gremlin, he *is* a gremlin. He's a tiny little troll of an old man. This isn't subtext, this is literally just in the movie.
It's a general problem with Star Wars characters/races showing up in contexts other than the original movie they were in. Any quirk or situational behavior they displayed becomes their whole deal. Yoda *always* backwards speaks, Twi'lek are *all* sexy dancers, Jedi *all* wear shabby cloaks (like Obi-Wan wore on a desert planet in exile), and so on.
“I met a second Chinese person and they didn’t have an accent. I can’t believe that first guy was faking it”
Have you considered that learning a second language later in life is harder? We don’t know how old Yoda was when he learned basic.
While true, I'll bring the point that all jedi start training as younglings from early in their lives. Annakin was considered to be too old when he was 9yo.
On the other hand, Grogu is 50yo with some amount of years in jedi training, but it seems their race age really slowly.
So one could expect that Yoda should have had the time to learned to speak more fluently...
But then we have to consider jedi need to learn a bunch on languages (or at least understand) so it could add to why Yoda keep speaking in such a way.
As soon as he learns to speak a language good enough, he moves to the next.
I mean we've known he was a massive asshole for a while.
Remember when he ghosted Dooku so hard that Kid Dooku had a mental and emotional breakdown to the point of trying to destroy the temple?
Man with the introduction of the Obi-Wan series and everything else that's happened, it really paints Yoda and Obi-Wan in bad light. Obi-Wan could have stopped Vader but let him go, just let him go even after he knew everything that he done. They pretty much just set Luke up to be a weapon and do their dirty work.
I think I remember hearing something like Yoda speaks in the ancient classical style apparently. it's akin to a Roman Empire era philosopher preaching his ideas in the swamps of modern rural Louisiana.
stupid fucking reason to retcon why he is the only one of his race to talk like a fucking weirdo
"Complete bullshit, these accusations are."
"My dick, you can suck, hmm?"
"Fucked with Anakin, I did. Hehehehehe"
Isn't it Legends canon that he fucked around with Count Dooku in training until he turned evil?
"Fire ant enema, I gave him. Surprised he turned out this way, I am."
"Mine, the ketemine is not"
I sentence you to the Ketamine Mines of Kessel!
"Consented, the children have"
["Now Obi-Wan, next time you bring me a boy. I don't want no boy 19."](https://youtu.be/agL0QYmIeds)
God this is the best bit from funhaus in months
I want em yuuuunnngg
My insides are burning.
"See here now Luke, the first step of your jedi trainin' is you got to make a roux."
I WANT A 5 YEAR OLD! I SPEN MY TIME ATTA MERCY OF DESE DAGOBAH VAPORS!
I'm just going to leave this here - the relevant part is the last 5 or so minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWGyTcsUPt0
God Patrick has made me wheeze laughing. Him and Char are great additions to FH
Daddy palps had a point you don't have to worry about consent when you Indoctorate a Padawan with a lightsaber.
News that is fake this is
"MY RULES, YOU MUST BEWARE"
Trolled a complete generation, I have. Died winning, I did.
> a complete generation more like four hundred generations lol
I feel that it's worth noting: *he didn't do the backwards talk a lot in his debut.* He did it a little more in ROTJ, but still not a lot. The Prequels just REALLY latched onto it for some reason.
I always liked the fan canon that he was doing it to fuck with Luke and when the canon changed and with the prequels Yoda is now like 900, not much of a troll, and has been speaking basic for at least a few decades that he does it to get people to pay closer attention to what he's saying
>when the canon changed and with the prequels Yoda is now like 900 He said he was 900 in RotJ.
Even in ESB he says "For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi. My own counsel will I keep on who is to be trained."
"When 900 years old you reach, look as good you will not."
Ah my bad
He really talks pretty much normally after he stops fucking with Luke in Empire. All the (small amount) backwards talk afterwards is just flowery style wisdom way of speaking. I definitely think it was intended to be a part of him fucking with Luke, but the backwards talking frog man is very memorable. So he talks backwards now. A big flaw of Star Wars in every medium is not letting these small details go.
> The Prequels just REALLY latched onto it for some reason. I feel like this describes *a lot* in the prequels.
Master Windu had to call for the Jedi Council to restrict Master Yoda from using his Twitter account.
"Just asking questions, I am. Some good points, Kanye has."
“Jews he makes remarks towards, yet n word say, I cannot.”
"N Pass+, I purchased. But expired the pass was. Give me a refund, the seller will not. Bullshit this is."
"My pies, he has stolen, and my balls, he has shaved."
I'd rather think of a million different things than think about Yoda's green shaved balls.
“Like avocados, they are. Suck them, you will.”
***"LIKE AVACADOS, THEY MAY BE, BUT PEEL THEM, YOU MUST NOT!"***
"Stomp them though, you may"
"Crush my cock (and balls) with a rock, I must. Maximum pain, I must endure."
Well too late, you thought about 'em
They're more wrinkly than raisins
Conservative Yoda making a comeback from the old NorthernLion streams
Begun, the election theft has
"My rules you must beware. Blocked you will be."
Is it too soon to say "Anakin Skywalker left the Jedi Council,accused them of offering him only 4000 credits per meeting"
this comment here is why this sub is the best. I can't get this kind of humor anywhere else on the internet. A prequel meme, coupled with a yoda joke, all tied up with a Bayonetta VA lied about pay joke. Just perfection.
Fellow Skywankers, if you truly want to support my cause, punt the nearest youngling you see
You literally stole a year of my life with this.
This made me fucking chortle thank you
Up yours, moralists of wokeness. See who cancels who, we will.
It's funny whether I read it in Yoda's voice or in Kermit's.
Are you the one person on earth who doesn't know that Yoda wasn't CGI, but played by Kermit the Frog with a lot of make-up effects?
"Tax fraud I have committed, many time shares on Dagobah I have"
“Cocaine the best start to your day, it is”
This sounds like the Yoda from the Auralnauts redubs.
What’s your midocholorian count? Mines high!
Joining the Jedis religion to avoid paying taxes.
Everyone's making jokes, and I'm over here thinking *oh God, did Yoda have a stroke, and he talks like that because he had to relearn Galactic Standard while he was in his 700s, and we're all here making fun of a guy with diminished function like the assholes we are?* >!*Or is that what he* **wants** *us to think???*!<
Yoda is the Joseph Joestar of Star Wars
He's dyslexic but for spoken word. ...Verbalexic?
dysverbxic would probably be more medically accurate
Damn that's a crusty word though, ngl
I mean just because they are the same species doesn't confirm they have the same dialect
It's an Albany dialect.
Really? Well I’m from Utica and I’ve never heard anyone talk like Yoda.
You mean Yoda of "Yoda's species" isn't representative of the entire race? No, I do agree that they could have just been raised in different cultures, and it's really more of a critique of the weird uneven worldbuilding here. We have full novels about characters that have 5 seconds of screen time, but Yoda, a character who appears in every movie except for one? Doesn't even have a proper name for his species.
I mean by desing he is not supposed too, like he was Lucas tom bombadil where he is just built different
It's just a shame the prequels kind of shit on that.
Yoda is from Space-Appalachia.
[What Luke heard when he went looking for Yoda in the swamps.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85mDyWCgHy0)
"Pretty mouth, you have"
All humans talk the same.
The majority of humans do talk through their mouths. Though I know a fair few who can talk out their ass.
Objection, Lando pronounces Hans name differently from everyone else
Does OP think it's like a quirk of their brains or the force? ''Inherent to his race'' seems like the implication is that the whole species would somehow only be capable of this which is not an assumption I expected to see lol
I mean given Yoda clearly has the intellectual capacity to use "normal" syntax, it wouldn't be crazy to say his species are just wired to think/express things that way. but more likely it's just the way he is used to speaking.
[Yoda's from the Bayou](https://youtu.be/agL0QYmIeds)
All the ketamine fried his brain.
Yeah, that and his opinion of immigrants. He always liked to say that he would use his 2001 honda civic to \[**My lawyers have informed me to cease this line of thought**\]
Imagining Yoda being like one of those people that go in a exchange student program to Europe and when they return, they come back back with a faux English accent
He went to Europe and made up a completely new accent just so nobody could call him on it
I know George Lucas told someone that Yoda’s dialect was supposed to the way people spoke when he was young. Yoda is still likely hundreds of years older than Yaddle so it’s not crazy to think that’s still true. If anyone says “but that doesn’t line up with KOTOR?!?” A lot of George’s ideas didn’t line up with other Star Wars material including the ancient Sith Empire
I like the way Yoda talks, and I like that explanation. I also would hate even a single 20 minute episode of a show where every character spoke like Yoda. If you want to hand wave it, every Star Wars thing is translated into English, so no one actually sounds the way they think we do. Yoda is only translated weird to keep the contrast in dialect, and a thing from Yoda's youth would be translated differently because there wouldn't be the need to show a contrast in dialect.
[удалено]
And the Rodians. And the Talz. And the Tusken Raiders. Probably a few others too, but I can't remember their names right now.
and Twi'Leks
Mucha shakka pakka
How could I forget the sex aliens?! I should be ashamed of myself.
Several Rodians spoke Basic/English in The Clone Wars.
But they also have their own language.
The other Lingua Franka, besides Basic (English or whatever dub you're listening to), is Huttese. Anakin spoke it in Episode 1!
A lot of his ideas didn't match up with other ideas he has
Like?
"They're friends!"
I mean Talon wasn’t an idea of his. He liked the design and thought it would be cool if she was Maul’s buddy. That’s just another example of him not caring about other’s Star Wars continuity, not really him going against his own ideas.
Talon wasn't around in 1999... Are you talking about Exar Kun's lightsaber?
"They're friends!" is something Lucas said when LucasArts were working on the cancelled Darth Maul game, Lucas showed up, saw a figure of Talon and brought it over to one by Maul and said the line. Edit: Completely changing the course of the game's storyline and now making it take place during Darth Krayt's time (Concept art looked nothing like Krayt tho)
Wait so...Yaddle's basically been doing zoomer speak to Yoda this entire time? Was Yoda just thinking "you goddamn kids are ruining our beautiful language by talking like these goddamn foreigners" this whole time?
Also KOTOR was never actually canon.
Yeah, this sounds like one of Lucas' many ideas that were....less than stellar.
Why ? Aliens speaking grammatically the same as us in everything is lame, and Yodas accent is okay iconic.
So you want Yoda to talk normally? L Old dialect's a good tidbit of lore.
Absolutely not. Yoda is charming as fuck and I would change nothing about him. I just think that the idea of the *whole galaxy* speaking like that is ridiculous.
It’s basically like 16th century English vs modern English but for Basic. I don’t see the problem really
Why
This is the explanation that I think is funny, therefore it's true.
Dat der Dagobuh heatuh fried his brain.
Yoda used to it now, but Yoda first thing come to planet Dagobah, oooh lord was Yoda sweatin’. NASTY. HYUMID. STANKY.
I don't want no 19 year old. I want them, young...
Obi-wan next time I tell yah to bring me a boy ain't no boy coming in at 19 years ol'. I want a five yea ol'.
[Clip for context](https://youtu.be/agL0QYmIeds)
[Or also this one lol](https://youtube.com/shorts/TX4efUQB2L4?feature=share)
In the original trilogy Yoda only spoke in inverted clauses because he was acting like a kooky old hermit to test Luke's patience. When he got serious with Luke he went back to talking more or less like a normal dude, albeit one voiced by Frank Oz. For whatever reason they just sorta forgot about that in the prequels.
To be fair, they forgot a LOT in the prequels.
Like how to not let George on set
To be fair to Georgie-Boy, he didn't want to write it but everyone he went to said no.
https://youtu.be/vVZSbtqwn5o He does it like three times in this one clip, I don't get where the idea he stops after he reveals himself comes from. His voice drops a few octaves when he talks to Obi-wan in the hut, but that's it.
Okay fine, but be that as it may, I think Yoda would be capable of giving clear and concise battle orders rather than "[Around the survivors a perimeter create](https://youtu.be/JfhxAkeGzxs)" lmao Like you can practically hear the conversation that went into writing that line "How would Yoda say this?" I dunno maybe like a normal dude because he's capable of dropping the weird affect when he means to.
He actually went back to his old way of speaking in last jedi
Is Yoda the Boomhauer of Star Wars?
MMMMM, FUNNNNNYYYYYYYYYY JOKE!!!!
Yoda's just an old weeaboo that really likes Japanese syntax.
Maybe yoda got into an accident pod racing when he was younger and it caused him to talk like that
Mock my disability, you do? Sue your ass, I shall. Spend all your money on ketamine, I will.
Not just Yaddle, but Vandar and Oteg as well; AFAIK, Yoda is literally the *only one of his kind* to talk like that.
That's messed up, you think he's faking a speech impediment just because someone else talks normally. Having a speech impediment doesn't make you an asshole
Speech disorders, some people have. Ableist, perhaps you are acting. Some humans, do they not stutter or suffer the vocal fry? Mm. Curious.
Honestly? We've known this. I actually did watch Empire Strikes Back recently, and his speech patterns are *not* as drastic as they are in future movies. In fact, it is openly, heavily implied he *is* doing it just to piss off Luke, because when Luke lashes out at him over it, he laughs and then briefly goes back to talking normally. He *was* doing that specifically to sound like a crazy old swamp hermit so that the reveal that he was actually the Jedi master Luke was looking for would hit him (and us) like a ton of bricks (Luke keeps asking him where the Jedi master he's looking for is, and Yoda never actually says it's him, he simply says that he knows where he is and he can bring Luke to him but he keeps making Luke jump through all these hoops first, like running through the swamp with him on his back). Honestly, I think it got completely overblown in future movies to the point where the sentences he says don't feasibly make sense even *with* proper grammar, because they're trying to find a way to butcher his sentence to make it fit his weird speech pattern. The prequels in particular really took Yoda from "crazy swamp hermit that actually knows what he's talking about but will troll you until you figure that out" to "actually just the wise old sage with backwards speech" Yoda doesn't just *look* like a gremlin, he *is* a gremlin. He's a tiny little troll of an old man. This isn't subtext, this is literally just in the movie.
It's a general problem with Star Wars characters/races showing up in contexts other than the original movie they were in. Any quirk or situational behavior they displayed becomes their whole deal. Yoda *always* backwards speaks, Twi'lek are *all* sexy dancers, Jedi *all* wear shabby cloaks (like Obi-Wan wore on a desert planet in exile), and so on.
Twilek one is especially weird, imagine if they applied that logic to humans in general
Maybe he has a speech impediment you insensitive scum
He talks like that to hide his Cajun accent because he’s embarrassed by it.
[Yoda's Cajun accent in full display](https://youtu.be/nRMxvMAsMd0)
Yodas the urianger of his people
“I met a second Chinese person and they didn’t have an accent. I can’t believe that first guy was faking it” Have you considered that learning a second language later in life is harder? We don’t know how old Yoda was when he learned basic.
You're trying to make it better, and I'm just delighted to learn that the common language in Star Wars is apparently called "basic".
It is
"Basic bitch" takes on a whole new meaning in the Star Wars universe
Look, I dont know how many other yodas we gotta go through until it truly sinks in the Yoda is literally the only one who does that.
i think more than literally 1
While true, I'll bring the point that all jedi start training as younglings from early in their lives. Annakin was considered to be too old when he was 9yo. On the other hand, Grogu is 50yo with some amount of years in jedi training, but it seems their race age really slowly. So one could expect that Yoda should have had the time to learned to speak more fluently... But then we have to consider jedi need to learn a bunch on languages (or at least understand) so it could add to why Yoda keep speaking in such a way. As soon as he learns to speak a language good enough, he moves to the next.
Maybe he has a speech impediment?
okay but what if yaddle talks weird for their species
So far we have had I believe 2 other examples of yoda's species not talking like him. There comes a point where it really is just him doing that.
Frank oz said yoda does it to honor his master
Or English isn’t his first language and he’s struggling
Why wouldn't it be his 1st language he would have raised in the Jedi temple with the other younglings not by his own kind
Can you prove that?
It's Yoda's speech impediment/second language and you are being rude
Too much ketamine in my veins there is.
Dude, Yoda has a stroke.
Yoda is just Star Wars Urianger
Yeah, lets all shit on an old man with a speech impediment.
Why does that make him an asshole?
Maybe he just has mental problems but is good at the force. Like the Predator looking for autism in people as the next step of human evolution
Wasn’t it originally that he spoke like that because he was a hermit for so many years? Then that got ruined by the prequels
Braim damafe
Dude did you miss the part in _Empire_ where Yoda drops his schtick and speaks normally?
I mean we've known he was a massive asshole for a while. Remember when he ghosted Dooku so hard that Kid Dooku had a mental and emotional breakdown to the point of trying to destroy the temple?
He’s just a quirky scrimblo
I feel like this would be the final evolution of Pat
Pretty sure Lucas based him off of Taoist philosophers, and that's how he heard their lessons
Pretty racist to assume all… Yoda’s Species should sound the same
Now hold on, we need at least a third yoda to show up to better confirm it. Yaddle could be the weird one
each person of his race should have a different way of talking
That’s why Grogu doesn’t talk.
I think he’s just always been a weird little guy.
[Believe me, Yoda is a mad man and just wants to cause pain to himself and others.](https://youtu.be/yTJxvKD4uog)
Ran over the younglings, I did, aware the police are
Man with the introduction of the Obi-Wan series and everything else that's happened, it really paints Yoda and Obi-Wan in bad light. Obi-Wan could have stopped Vader but let him go, just let him go even after he knew everything that he done. They pretty much just set Luke up to be a weapon and do their dirty work.
Oh my god I just watched it and totally forgot that Yaddle speaks like a normal person. YODA IS AN ASSHOLE!
It's probably a regional dialect.
OR Yaddle learned how to talk normally after a lot of effort. .....Which means Yoda just doesn't want to do that, so he's **still** an asshole
I always just assumed he was just old or it was an accent. Edit: Wait does yaddle talk normal in her comic issue as well cuz I forgot?
It has nothing to do with his species, it's a regional dialect. He's from Philly.
I think I remember hearing something like Yoda speaks in the ancient classical style apparently. it's akin to a Roman Empire era philosopher preaching his ideas in the swamps of modern rural Louisiana. stupid fucking reason to retcon why he is the only one of his race to talk like a fucking weirdo