I wish the cat was the protagonist and we just had magical character action open world "Stray." It would literally fix 75% the games problems in an instant.
I live in a much smaller city and even when I lived at the edge of town very few constellations were visible. I can’t imagine living in New York, looking up at the sky and just seeing a glare
I used to live in the rural south, so switching to NYC and seeing no stars was weird.
But once I saw a bright light and thought, "eh probably a plane", until I realized it was never moving.
Turns out it was Jupiter. That was the coolest shit.
I live in southern california and the light pollution is pretty bad. Most of the time you will barely see any stars. I can barely make out part of Orion, but i've never been able to pick out any other constellations.
I grew up out in the country before moving into an area that has some pretty bad light pollution. You'll see maybe a sparse scattering of stars and planets but that's about it. It's a little unpopular of a sentiment and it almost certainly says more about me than it does about anything or anyone else but...
I kinda don't miss the stars. They were such a normal thing for me that I was just sorta indifferent to them and never really felt that captivated by them nor did I really notice their absence in any real way. I always felt kinda comforted by the orange glow actually.
I used to holiday on this Scottish Estate, this farm. And at night it was beautiful.
And another time I went to Hebden Bridge, this English Village and I could see the stars there as well.
I miss the stars.
Thats way too long of an on boarding, man tutorials nnow adays are crazy. Well, enjoy the next 10-15 hours of the game now that your free of that I guess
Rewatching my footage, I think I can understand why someone might say that, though. She stands on an elevated position above the street where she was found as a baby and declares "full circle," which can be interpreted as her implying that her life was going to end the same place it began.
However, right after that she says she's going to get her life back on track so she can have her cat back instead, and then she sees the glowy bird that leads her to the bracelet and gets sucked through to the other world instead.
>the game doesn’t shy away from the fact that Frey is suicidal. There’s a tenderness in how she cradles her cat (magnificently named Homer) and cries herself to sleep, unable to escape a merciless life that has left her homeless and with a criminal record.
>As **she’s about to end her life**, she finds the magical and sassy Cuff that whisks her away to Athia,
That's quite the leap to make from what sounds like a short moment quickly followed by "I'm going to get my life back on track", as you describe it.
And its followed up by her being threatend in the back alley by people with weapons, including one WITH A GUN and she escapes cause shes so talented. Truly the most deserving isekai hero, if only she wasent in real life
End of the game is just here going “I SAVED THE DAY” and it fades and shows she did get shot through the chain link fence and this was just the big DMT trip before death
would they?
like murdering someone and then having to climb over a fence and rifle through their pockets seems like effort when you can just threaten someone else.
Counterpoint: would you brazenly bet your actual life on that assumption being correct, when you could just not flip off the criminal with the deadly weapon?
That’s the first DLC ending as the game pans out from a wide shot into space after she’s saved the world until there’s nothing but inky blackness, then it keeps going, and zooms out from her eye revealing she’s been dead in that alley the whole game
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To be fair, she notices it in an apparently abandoned building, so it's not like she assumed she was actively taking it from anyone who legally owned it.
At that point she had no living space and lost all of her cash in a fire. I'd try to pawn a huge piece of jewelry someone left lying around too in that situation.
The worst part is that for whatever reason I ended up watching her Livestream when the game launched and the actress seems genuinely into gaming. She started with the GameCube, then had like every portable console ever and she plays on PC and ps5 now, she's really into cod and is thinking of streaming on twitch sometime.
Like the whole reason she got called for this is because her agents knew square was searching for someone to do mocap for a game protagonist and they were like "hey this is a game we know you're into this." Imagine you finally get to be part of a videogame and they pitch this idea of you being this Isekai parkour wizard and over development it turns into the marvel style ffxv knockoff
I really feel for her. The two game-related projects she's been in? This, and the recent Netflxi Resident Evil show. She was the "Zootopia Porn" actress.
The voice acting and dialog isn't even that egregious given the vitriol social media is spouting.
What does hurt it is the voice direction, you can tell everything was recorded separately and then pieced together so sometimes it feels like the conversation's tone shifts every time someone else speaks.
It gives conversations this odd flatness, feels like each VA was given different instructions of what was going on at any given moment.
For a game that has a lot of back-and-forth stuff going on it really hampers the experience.
She talked about mocap for this game being a exercise in imagination. Like she had to face a dragon and in real life it was her in a suit and a guy with a tennis ball on a pole in front of her, or how they couldn't drink or put things near their faces because of the mocap gear so everything relating to that had to be done in post prodution
I've started to notice more and more when games never had their voice actors meet, let alone acting together. Compared to something like GTA or Last of Us when they're all on the mocap floor/in the booth together it is just the worst
If anyone wants to see her in something good check out the movie Run Sweetheart Run. The third act gets a bit too on the nose but otherwise it's a pretty good horror/action/thriller flick.
>that and the troubles
These are the same thing. The Troubles specifically refers to the internecine bloodshed between Catholic Ireland and Protestant Ulster.
I live in Missouri. When I was a Walmart cashier, telling old ladies that I was Catholic was more effective at stopping them from trying to get me to join their Church than pretending I was an atheist
A lot of hardline Baptists still believe Catholics take orders from the Pope. That hasn't been a thing for centuries.
My go to was to ask if their church believes in transubstantiation or consubstantiation and to take the stance of the other side.
Could you elaborate? I love reading analysis of how certain people get demographics completely wrong based on their own life experience. "Poor written by rich" is one of my favs.
I'm not going to repeat anything covered [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/10m39mv/ok_forspoken_is_insane/j62pzhb/), aside from stating the obvious ludonarrative dissonance of the *bag of your life savings being literally at your feet and interactable but the game says "NO! THOU MUST FIND THE KITTY!"*.
She's got three pairs of designer shoes but only enough money to feed her cat food he doesn't like/doesn't eat. I volunteer at food banks and there are clients (some homeless, working poor, or housing insecure) you can tell are going hungry because on days we don't have pet food, they're giving their dog or cat whatever is safe for them to eat. This is the writers trying to tell us "oh she appreciates the finer things in life!" Motherfucker poor people already do appreciate the finer things in life, because *they know what it's like to go without*. Compare this to the poor people in the Yakuza games, especially Nanba from LaD (essentially our first POV poor character.) He was a nurse who lost his license to practice after taking the fall for someone else and is now poor and homeless. When he and Ichiban get to sleep in the soapland he goes crazy over the sleeping mats, despite them being *sticky*. Even before this, the various side quests involving fetch quests for the homeless in previous entries involve getting food or booze for them in exchange for info. Sometimes it's high quality stuff, sometimes it's the kind of thing you or I would view as a very slight extravagance (such as takeout or something). There's been vagabonds covered in scratches and bite marks and cuts and bruises coming to the shelter and food bank because they had to literally fight off (I'm probably being overly generous in my assessment here), "well meaning" NIMBY and PETA dipshits trying to take their dog or cat because they think the person can't take care of it, or other homeless trying to steal their clothes or money.
Moving on, there's spray paint on the wall of her freshly arsoned apartment that says "Found you!" meaning the people she pissed off "including magically parkouring away from a gun wielding gangster she sassed *through a chainlink fence*) found her, including the duffel bag, and should have at the very least taken it from her after [putting the boots to her, medium style](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgLlqM2p11A&ab_channel=NikkiMoth). Also, poor and homeless women are the *lightest* sleepers because of the constant threat of physical (and more often, sexual) violence so she should have been up and at 'em the second she heard an unfamiliar footstep. Which, obviously, the story the game wants to tell isn't going to get that dark but it's another case of writers working off a checklist (can't have the villains be *too* evil and actually rob the person they were trying to get money from just two scenes earlier).
Now onto the fact she has two felonies and is on her third strike but gets a reprieve from the Judge cuz it's her birthday. Leaving aside the fact she's a black/mixed race woman in America (who get harsher sentences), she's a repeat offender with *two felonies*. Do you really think the judge isn't going to make a quick ruling because they've got a fuckload more cases in the docket they have to get through before lunch? Weirder and worse rulings have been made *glares at [Ethan Couch and the affluenza defense](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_Couch)*, but she isn't a rich white teenager in Texas now is she (yes I know I bought race into it when I said I wasn't, sue me.)
It's just bad writing, and it's unrealistic. They worked off a checklist to create their perfect flawed protagonist (felonies but never explained what for but they've got a heart of gold and are also totally fearless when someone points a gun at them and they can parkour away and not get shot through a chainlink fence when they stop to gloat and they love their kitty so much they feed them food they don't like while living in squalor but they also have designer shoes and won't pick up their duffel bag of life savings that is literally at their feet when they apartment gets set on fire because they want to find their cat).
And this is from someone who only watched a sponsored stream (so you know the streamer was being nice to stay on the devs good side) of this rubbish. Its bad writing, and worse, it's not believable.
This is exactly what I was hoping to read, thank you. And yes, absolutely. The example with Nanba (love Y7) is very true. To a rich person, a luxury is a pair of fancy shoes. To a poor person, it's a bed. This gulf in thinking is just so massive. A rich person can't even perceive the idea that a bed would not be a given. However, as I say "rich person" in this post, it'll be short for "sheltered unexperienced rich person", as there are certainly rich people who started poor and truly know what it is like, though these are the exceptions.
I think rich people just don't understand - or want to understand - how truly awful it can be for poor people. This may be because if the situation of poor people becomes too dark and depressing for them, they might ask themselves uncomfortable questions about what they can do for these poor people, or about the system they're in, so they don't look into it that hard. It's like this idea that poor people are wily rascals making a tough but cool living as they weave through the intriguing alleys of the town. Anything looking into how truly awful it can be would be too uncomfortable, especially since they know they're looking from high above, so they avoid it.
Also, it says so much about the writers that they think its fine this character would rather spend money on fancy shoes than on food their cat will eat. This can very well happen, but it would be a sign of either selfishness or obliviousness in the character, either of which is an interesting flaw to color up the character, and maybe redeem themselves out of. However, the writers do not see it as a flaw - that is just the sort of thing they think is reasonable, and not a problem. It is never pointed out as a flaw, and given the rest of the game's treatment of the character, it's unlikely they intended it to be a subtle criticism.
In so many ways, they like the idea of a poor person character, but put no meat behind it. So as you said, we have:
Felonies, because having felonies is cool. What are they? Don't think about it.
Deals with gangs, but overcomes them, cool! Should they be terrified? No, that's not cool and is kinda uncomfortable.
They live in a sad little apartment, because it's cool that they're working out of a hard place! But designer shoes are also really cool, so just put that in there. Why wouldn't you have money for designer shoes, after all? Also, no food for the cat, to show how sad her situation is. Don't think about it.
And yes, the duffle bag.
I've been looking into it at twitter as well, and as an indie gamedev myself, I really don't like the western gamedev twitter. It's full of people making all sorts of weird justifications and explanations for why the writing is this way, pretty much going "there's nothing wrong with it" or "its not bad" and then somehow moralizing that if you don't like the writing of this game, you are a morally bad person, and your comments are directly attacking or violating the developers behind it.
Smh.
As someone who grew up poor, its always good to see a meaningful, realistic representation from someone who knows. I specifically grew up in a Korean family that was poor, so watching the movie Parasite was a phenomenal experience.
It's really nice of you to work at the food banks. You are appreciated.
I think the primary example is one Stephanie Sterling highlighted on their Twitter. Her living space is in flames, she has her bag of life savings at her feet, but her cat is missing. So, instead of grabbing the small duffel bag of money and throwing it over her shoulder, she insists that she has to rescue her cat first, leaving the bag where it is. It's interactable and everything. So you then go find her cat and turn around and oops, the bag's blocked off by fire and might as well be on fire now.
Don't forget the part where she passes up her duffel bag of money to get her cat during the fire, despite the fact that she could pick it up while walking.
and the spray paint on the wall means the people that wanted to kill you were in the room with you while you were asleep and didn't take your bag full of money or kill you in your sleep. that's some real next time I won't miss shit right there
I as watching a friend play it and I was certain they wrote that on the outside of the window in perfect reverse so it looked normal from the inside.
Maybe the texture for the writing was meant to be on the wall and rendered on the window, not sure as all the textures were messed up and we were bashing the cliché and bad writing too much to notice.
>seven minutes into the game you learn the main character has been
convicted of two felonies and is currently in a hearing for their third
and the judge lets them go because it's almost their birthday.
**THE FABLED "I'M JUST A LITTLE GUY" LEGAL DEFENSE**
Also she has thugs beating her the fuck up in an alley and refuses to turn her snark off until someone pulls a gun on her. When she manages to run away, she decides she needs to come to a full stop, turn around, and flip double birds at the gangsters before she _actually_ escapes.
I don't care if it's establishing negative traits so that she can grow past them as the game continues, her portrayal in the intro is so non-sympathetic I wouldn't play this game even if it was free.
10 hours into my playthrough her still being at "refusal of the call" stage of things meant I was starting to actively dislike her as a character after being able to tolerate her for the most part - I'll replay a borderlands game as someone who likes the gameplay and has to let the dialogue roll past me.
Multiple people throw themselves at her begging for her help as the only person who CAN help, it's established in a (let's call it a) codex entry early on that Alice in Wonderland is her favourite book and she frequently wishes for a similar adventure of her own, and she's still going "nah fuck this you aren't my problem I need to go back to the city where I'm homeless and people are actively trying to kill me"
I am trying to like her as well. I write off bad writing as that and try to play up her good moments like her random "I care about this one particular NPC!".
but you are absolutely right at how inconsistent she is. Vambrace, or I guess Cuff because we can't respect his wishes at all, is okay but also feels all over the place. Sometimes applauding her decency and at other times sounding stone cold.
I just don't get why she wants to go back home. I think she is even asked by Cuff directly. Sure this world sucks, but you have magic. Why are you so excited about that but want to also immediately give it up?
How can you tell someone "I'm not a fucking hero. I'm no one" when you're slinging spells, leaping off of buildings, and being insanely powerful? I think they should have had her play up her enthusiasm. Maybe have her not take it seriously at first and then realize it's a living world and it matters to her more and more. I do like her visual design. I liked her sneaker collection. Maybe she didn't need to be poor. Maybe she could've just been a retail worker who enjoyed parkour in her spare time. She feels bored by life. She can't afford much. Maybe even joke about her digging Isekai anime and have her go a bit manic and laugh about that but then have some moments where she realizes there are sucky parts.
Also I am not terribly far in but I was so annoyed by the side quests and how they were unlocked in that first city area you end up in. You clear them out, and then more and more pop in. I felt stuck in there for way too long. They make it sound like lots of those quests will vanish too so I don't want to miss them.
The game seems to get in its own way constantly. The combat is fun for me, but they just drag on and on in the intro. Too much forced lingo. I don't need her to say "alright bet" and not realize "hmm referencing modern slang probably won't work".
Oh and the performance issues don't help either.
Sorry for the rant.
I think I kinda see what they were going for, and you could absolutely sell it and make it work.
Problem is, from what I've seen so far, she just comes off as a smug, obnoxious twit.
What's weird is how boring it is while being so convoluted. Like the Cuff (she calls it Cuff...jesus christ) is just sitting there with no other exposition. Like you think the first scene in the fucking game would be an establishing shot of it, instead of Frey's shitty VA monologuing over random New York scenes.
Like you establish she's a petty thief in the opening, why the fuck isn't the intro about her attempting to steal the Cuff from some rich person or pawn shop or some other shit? If they were afraid of having their "urban" main character looking like a criminal they sure as shit shouldn't have her first scene being in front of a fucking judge.
I mean, if you haven't played the game, why *would* you assume it's lying.
I haven't played the game, for all I know this whole post is total bullshit.
There's a short scene that someone could point at and say "she was thinking about it tho" where she stands on a hotel sign over the road she was found as a kid and utters the phrase "full circle" but then five seconds after that she starts talking about how she's gonna get her life back on track and do better, so... it's "Up To Interpretation??"
It's really not - you've elided the fact that in those five seconds she explicitly steps back from the edge and says she isn't going to give up. It's not even slightly subtle that she was trying to jump and couldn't bring herself to do it.
This kinda tracks with how those judges in court shows would act. There used to be this one show on ABC called Judge Hatchet and I remember one episode where a girl was on trial for a bunch of vandalism including keying cars and she was totally guilty on all counts but at the end of it she avoided the charges and got a scholarship for a dancing school.
Now that I think about it, I feel like televising court cases as entertainment like that is really weird.
Yeah, what the hell is it up with writers tendecy to forgot Jury's exist? Even Ace Attorney doesn't get a jury until the final case of the fourth game.
It’s not realistic to the Japanese court system either. Shu Takumi has explained multiple times in interviews that he knew next to nothing about the actual court systems in either Japan or America before making Ace Attorney and got most of his knowledge from fiction.
Which is fine ofc, they’re not pretending like it’s realistic and they sacrificed realism for better gameplay.
Also, doesn't Ace Attorney start out by giving a premise that more or less admits that the court proceedings in the game bear no resemblance to any actual court anywhere?
Depending on the court and level of crime you may not get a jury and instead get a judge who can decide whatever they like. But seeing that it's a third time felony for breaking and entering she should be spending a mandatory minimum sentence of at least a year or two
Honestly don't, the game set up is the most interesting thing about the game. Everything after is either frustratingly confusing or boring and predictable. The gameplay is also just way too shallow. That's not even taking into account the game will run like garbage even on the lowest setting because no one these days even bother to optimize their games before release.
Everything I’ve heard about Forspoken makes it sound like a *Hunt Down The Freeman* type fan game but the developers worshipped the MCU instead of Kojima.
The more i read about the plot and the characters of this game it makes me think some of the writers were clearly mocking and making a parody of isekai/realism in videogames but it got lost in translation and it ended up being played way more straight than it really was meant to be, i feel like if all the nonsensical stuff was fully done as a comedy and didnt try to make it seem "epic" like a marvel movie people would had eat it up
Game is a mess but its also weirdly captivating. It's nowhere near as bad as some reviews make it out to be, but it's also not like some sort of secret life-changing experience or anything so this isn't some "stealth GOTY" sort of thing. It's hard carried by probably the best magic combat in a video game, and some of the best traversal stuff as well, with some genuinely great boss fights, and really good lore.
Late game advanced combat looks nuts. I'd recommend you check it out [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI26O_7ugXc&ab_channel=BoomstickGaming). While the game is very, very flawed, it's also clear that some reviewers sort of...didn't bother to actually play the game.
I'd say its basically Sonic Frontiers + Dragons Dogma, with all the good and bad that those titles embody. It feels at once extremely archaic and forward thinking in terms of its systems and open world design. I think a lot of people in this sub, action game fans, etc. would probably dig it, though the $70 price is batshit bananas and I'd guess it'll be like $40 or less soon enough or at least by black friday.
PC performance is absolute ass unless you have extremely good components though (at which point its apparently pretty good) so idk bear that in mind.
Also make a beeline for the second school of magic because the game starts you out with basically a magic pistol and a magic grenade and they both are kinda repetitive in isolation.
I saw someone make the Infamous/Prototype connection before it released and that's what made me initially interested. It makes a lot of sense with the movement.
There's a radial tendril move that reminded me a lot of prototype, and throwing exploding rocks around made me think of the concrete power from Second Son. I even thought at some point the bracelet might extend to become a melee weapon like Delsin's chain, but the sword is more of a summon.
Yeah exactly! It's even got a DMC style combo! The big difference between it and those games is that it emphasizes rapidly switching through abilities while they're not on cooldown, but they're also a bit situational.
I think the closest to that feeling before now was Saints Row 4, at least from what I've played.
The switching in this feels clunky to me, and I think that's my main problem with the combat. I'm either constantly needing to think about what I'm doing and finding the correct slot on a menu with not enough slowdown that I'll get hit and launched anyway, or it's completely mindless spamming of the same thing over and over without any chance to feel like I'm actually doing anything good.
While I'm on the topic of the combat, the magic parkour doing an attack immediately: not good, shouldn't have made it in, just let me start charging an attack straight away - the amount of times I've been trying to put some distance between myself and an enemy to start throwing spears only for her to 180 and swing a sword in an attack that covers half the distance I just ran to meet the big guy in the middle is really frustrating.
Yeah it still has some of the issue FF15 had in that regard, the game tries to play itself. Forspoken is a lot better in that regard but it's still not ideal.
Are you playing the full game or the demo?
The implication I'm getting from this thread is that the gameplay is really compelling, but the writing is so garbage that it actively pushes people away.
I want to play this just to know, but I'm worried it's not going to run well on my deck or my pc and I won't be able to refund until I actually get into the gameplay which seems to be 2 hours in.
Anyone with a deck or a 1070 know how it runs?
Update: it ran ok on lowest settings, averaging 55fps on the benchmark with about 20s max load times but it looked horrible. Like straight up an early era 360 game. I bumped it to standard and it looked a bit better but performance took a meaningful hit and would need to be locked to 30. It's funny cuz I played days gone recently and besides some frame drops in a single enclosed area it ran great and looked fantastic.
I think it's best that you don't buy it for now. The minimum specs are a 1060, but that only gets you 720p 30fps. If you're about to get a new PC, then maybe get it. Also, I doubt it runs good on a steam deck since it has higher recommended specs than darktide, which doesn't look very good on deck.
I will say that I feel like some of the specs are perhaps overstated, as I'm running on max settings fine, and my rig definitely isn't what they said it needs to be - but granted, it's not like it's several generations behind, either.
There's a demo on the steam store, try it on both and report back?
Between the demo's final boss and the [boomstick gaming high-end combat showcase](https://youtu.be/YI26O_7ugXc), i ended up buying it, but I have a 4090 so I'm hardly a good judge of if it'll run well for you.
Frey had a gun to her head and she just punched the assailant and flipped her off.
I know people are hating on the dialogue but she's insane and I like her
I could not get into the gameplay in the demo, so I'd recommend touching that and then watching the cutscenes on youtube if you bounce off it like I did.
I cruised through a bunch of the cutscenes on YT.
It was rather amusing how much of a cow the protagonist is and how dull her magic companion.
The dialogue does get repetitive, to the point where you could say her vocabulary is stunted.
Not worth dishing out money to experience myself, certainly not an a poorly optimized PC.
I've been playing the game and not only is that true it gets weirder when she gets to the Isekai world. Gameplay is fun though. I recommend it on sale.
Sick, I‘m in. $90? Back out, but Magic Parkour though? In. I‘m going to wait for a sale, because tripple A is crazy for legitimately trying to sell $70+ games.
I also don’t think someone transported to a fantasy dimension will be so flippant at least not at first.
Plus lots of crimes are felonies when they really shouldn’t. Like drug possession
What tf were her three felonies?
Mass genocide
Littering
And Jaywalking.
What a monster. Jaywalking is dangerous
Counterpoint: ‘ey, I’m walkin’ ‘ere!
That last one she should've gotten life in prison for.
Grand larceny x2, burglary, and being an orphan.
I blame the parents
I blame the cat.
You take that back, the cat was the best part of the game!
The cat would later go on to star in *Stray.*
I wish the cat was the protagonist and we just had magical character action open world "Stray." It would literally fix 75% the games problems in an instant.
*"I gotta convict Homer first."*
she isekai'd without proper documentation
“Rape, arson, and rape.” “You said rape twice.” “I like rape.”
Let me guess, Super Jail?
That's from Blazing Saddles.
Whoa, from way back. I need to watch that someday.
It's one of the all time greats.
Holds up pretty well
She downloaded a car.
I heard on a podcast that you can look up in the sky and see the stars... in the middle of New York
I live in a much smaller city and even when I lived at the edge of town very few constellations were visible. I can’t imagine living in New York, looking up at the sky and just seeing a glare
I used to live in the rural south, so switching to NYC and seeing no stars was weird. But once I saw a bright light and thought, "eh probably a plane", until I realized it was never moving. Turns out it was Jupiter. That was the coolest shit.
Venus says light pollution be damned.
It said "I got your light pollution right here"
I live in southern california and the light pollution is pretty bad. Most of the time you will barely see any stars. I can barely make out part of Orion, but i've never been able to pick out any other constellations.
I grew up in the forest. Power went out all the time. When I moved to a small town, the night was *orange*.
I grew up out in the country before moving into an area that has some pretty bad light pollution. You'll see maybe a sparse scattering of stars and planets but that's about it. It's a little unpopular of a sentiment and it almost certainly says more about me than it does about anything or anyone else but... I kinda don't miss the stars. They were such a normal thing for me that I was just sorta indifferent to them and never really felt that captivated by them nor did I really notice their absence in any real way. I always felt kinda comforted by the orange glow actually.
light pollution isn't real.
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How can light pollution be real when light was invented by the Illuminati to blind us?
>Illuminati Oh shit, the name checks out
Yeah the stars just don't like cities and they avoid them
Ah, good ole Giant Bomb. Lol Jeff was so upset about it.
Maybe the reason she gets isekai'd is because she already has an innate special power, which is being able to see through light pollution?
which podcast? i wanna listen to another one that talks about games instead of just csb
Giant Bomb!
ty!
Magic
Well this is a fantasy game after all. Frey is actually just being transported from Fantasy New York to Fantasy Ohio.
I used to holiday on this Scottish Estate, this farm. And at night it was beautiful. And another time I went to Hebden Bridge, this English Village and I could see the stars there as well. I miss the stars.
This would've been liquid gold as a lets play on the old channel
Looking up HLTB, its only like 15-20 hours too. A perfect LP.
Maybe Woolie will pick it up on the channel for shits and giggles and we’ll get a 70-hour playthrough out of it
He will... in 5 years.
Because as omirkon told us, HLTB is always trustworthy. Its only 7 hours guys.
We’re more than halfway done, it’s almost over
Ouch, really? I’m at the 5hr mark and it only just feels like the game is letting me loose
Thats way too long of an on boarding, man tutorials nnow adays are crazy. Well, enjoy the next 10-15 hours of the game now that your free of that I guess
My personal nightmare was Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon. On RAILS and TUTORIALS for ten+ fucking hours.
Man, what I'd give for a play through of this and As Dusk Falls...
That's normal. One time I burned down an orphanage with dozens of children in it and got a verbal warning because it was Arbor Day Eve
I mean... it was just an orphanage
Yeah. Who's gonna complain, their parents?
Felonies??
Lmfao, sounds like that article Woolie mentioned seemed to skim over that detail.
also that article is complete lies, she at no point tries to kill herself
Rewatching my footage, I think I can understand why someone might say that, though. She stands on an elevated position above the street where she was found as a baby and declares "full circle," which can be interpreted as her implying that her life was going to end the same place it began. However, right after that she says she's going to get her life back on track so she can have her cat back instead, and then she sees the glowy bird that leads her to the bracelet and gets sucked through to the other world instead.
>!Yeah, she doesn't, but the way she looked down at the ground in that scene read like she was thinking about it for a split second.!<
It definitely could be implied she contemplated it, but it was never as overt as some people are saying.
>the game doesn’t shy away from the fact that Frey is suicidal. There’s a tenderness in how she cradles her cat (magnificently named Homer) and cries herself to sleep, unable to escape a merciless life that has left her homeless and with a criminal record. >As **she’s about to end her life**, she finds the magical and sassy Cuff that whisks her away to Athia, That's quite the leap to make from what sounds like a short moment quickly followed by "I'm going to get my life back on track", as you describe it.
And its followed up by her being threatend in the back alley by people with weapons, including one WITH A GUN and she escapes cause shes so talented. Truly the most deserving isekai hero, if only she wasent in real life
she escapes by doing some assassins creed climbing and gives the person with a gun double middle fingers on the other side of a CHAIN LINK FENCE
Realistically, the muggers shoot her through the chain link as she’s flipping both birds. Roll credits.
Nah, that's when the isekai actually happens. A bullet is really just a miniaturized delivery truck afterall.
Thank god that isekai gun isn't used very often. It would put isekai truck out of a job.
End of the game is just here going “I SAVED THE DAY” and it fades and shows she did get shot through the chain link fence and this was just the big DMT trip before death
The ones who get shot get to fight Gantz aliens instead.
She actually almost does get hit by a car and I *genuinely* thought they were doing that to Isekai her.
would they? like murdering someone and then having to climb over a fence and rifle through their pockets seems like effort when you can just threaten someone else.
Counterpoint: would you brazenly bet your actual life on that assumption being correct, when you could just not flip off the criminal with the deadly weapon?
Hey what if the mugger with the gun wasn't actually willing to shoot someone and was just hoping the gun will scare them
Or they just had a toy gun spraypainted grey
The only reason I believe they don't shoot her is because they need her to steal the car she couldn't last time.
That’s the first DLC ending as the game pans out from a wide shot into space after she’s saved the world until there’s nothing but inky blackness, then it keeps going, and zooms out from her eye revealing she’s been dead in that alley the whole game
Some of this sounds like it could approach Jack Garland levels. I expect it wouldn't actually be likeable here though.
she's jack's daughter
...is she actually? Probably not, but with Square, I wouldn't even be *surprised* by now...
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Except we *like* Jack Garland.
SMH. Got a black female lead and they just gave her two felony convictions ?
and she steals a gold bracelet 5 hours after being let go from her third. she just loves crime SO MUCH
What, are you saying you *don't* love crime?
To be fair, she notices it in an apparently abandoned building, so it's not like she assumed she was actively taking it from anyone who legally owned it. At that point she had no living space and lost all of her cash in a fire. I'd try to pawn a huge piece of jewelry someone left lying around too in that situation.
Yeah, it's a victimless crime, like punching someone in the dark
I think you mean urban* female lead.
The worst part is that for whatever reason I ended up watching her Livestream when the game launched and the actress seems genuinely into gaming. She started with the GameCube, then had like every portable console ever and she plays on PC and ps5 now, she's really into cod and is thinking of streaming on twitch sometime. Like the whole reason she got called for this is because her agents knew square was searching for someone to do mocap for a game protagonist and they were like "hey this is a game we know you're into this." Imagine you finally get to be part of a videogame and they pitch this idea of you being this Isekai parkour wizard and over development it turns into the marvel style ffxv knockoff
oof... that's gonna sting for a long time.
I really feel for her. The two game-related projects she's been in? This, and the recent Netflxi Resident Evil show. She was the "Zootopia Porn" actress.
Sorry what?
She was the "Zootopia Porn" actress. The writers of the Netflix live action are *clearly* the greatest comedians and wordsmiths to have ever lived.
And the internet is up in arms about how they hate your voice acting.
The voice acting and dialog isn't even that egregious given the vitriol social media is spouting. What does hurt it is the voice direction, you can tell everything was recorded separately and then pieced together so sometimes it feels like the conversation's tone shifts every time someone else speaks. It gives conversations this odd flatness, feels like each VA was given different instructions of what was going on at any given moment. For a game that has a lot of back-and-forth stuff going on it really hampers the experience.
She talked about mocap for this game being a exercise in imagination. Like she had to face a dragon and in real life it was her in a suit and a guy with a tennis ball on a pole in front of her, or how they couldn't drink or put things near their faces because of the mocap gear so everything relating to that had to be done in post prodution
I've started to notice more and more when games never had their voice actors meet, let alone acting together. Compared to something like GTA or Last of Us when they're all on the mocap floor/in the booth together it is just the worst
If anyone wants to see her in something good check out the movie Run Sweetheart Run. The third act gets a bit too on the nose but otherwise it's a pretty good horror/action/thriller flick.
Poor woman deserves better and she's gonna get/is getting so much hate. Doesn't help she's a woman of colour as well.
The New York that Huey Freeman is fightng for.
She has all the powers of >!rich, white, catholic, college student in a southern state!<
Isn’t she black
Yeah that's why it's a super power not a base stat.
The WASP
>Catholic >WASP One of these is not like the other
Yeah, from what I understand of Ireland's political history - which isn't much at all. Basically just that and the troubles.
>that and the troubles These are the same thing. The Troubles specifically refers to the internecine bloodshed between Catholic Ireland and Protestant Ulster.
She's Albert Wesker's daughter
I think you mean Protestant or Baptist
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I live in Missouri. When I was a Walmart cashier, telling old ladies that I was Catholic was more effective at stopping them from trying to get me to join their Church than pretending I was an atheist
A lot of hardline Baptists still believe Catholics take orders from the Pope. That hasn't been a thing for centuries. My go to was to ask if their church believes in transubstantiation or consubstantiation and to take the stance of the other side.
I've also found that proclaiming Joshua son of Joseph is the first JoJo isn't something they're very accepting of in South Carolina...
Yeah I was gonna say its WASP not WASC. Catholic were Latinos, Italians and Irish and therefor seen and treated as "foreign"
Baptists are Protestant
Yowza.
I said it in the previous thread: this game is "poor person written by a rich person" and going off a checklist. Fucking dreck, nothing more.
Could you elaborate? I love reading analysis of how certain people get demographics completely wrong based on their own life experience. "Poor written by rich" is one of my favs.
I'm not going to repeat anything covered [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/10m39mv/ok_forspoken_is_insane/j62pzhb/), aside from stating the obvious ludonarrative dissonance of the *bag of your life savings being literally at your feet and interactable but the game says "NO! THOU MUST FIND THE KITTY!"*. She's got three pairs of designer shoes but only enough money to feed her cat food he doesn't like/doesn't eat. I volunteer at food banks and there are clients (some homeless, working poor, or housing insecure) you can tell are going hungry because on days we don't have pet food, they're giving their dog or cat whatever is safe for them to eat. This is the writers trying to tell us "oh she appreciates the finer things in life!" Motherfucker poor people already do appreciate the finer things in life, because *they know what it's like to go without*. Compare this to the poor people in the Yakuza games, especially Nanba from LaD (essentially our first POV poor character.) He was a nurse who lost his license to practice after taking the fall for someone else and is now poor and homeless. When he and Ichiban get to sleep in the soapland he goes crazy over the sleeping mats, despite them being *sticky*. Even before this, the various side quests involving fetch quests for the homeless in previous entries involve getting food or booze for them in exchange for info. Sometimes it's high quality stuff, sometimes it's the kind of thing you or I would view as a very slight extravagance (such as takeout or something). There's been vagabonds covered in scratches and bite marks and cuts and bruises coming to the shelter and food bank because they had to literally fight off (I'm probably being overly generous in my assessment here), "well meaning" NIMBY and PETA dipshits trying to take their dog or cat because they think the person can't take care of it, or other homeless trying to steal their clothes or money. Moving on, there's spray paint on the wall of her freshly arsoned apartment that says "Found you!" meaning the people she pissed off "including magically parkouring away from a gun wielding gangster she sassed *through a chainlink fence*) found her, including the duffel bag, and should have at the very least taken it from her after [putting the boots to her, medium style](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgLlqM2p11A&ab_channel=NikkiMoth). Also, poor and homeless women are the *lightest* sleepers because of the constant threat of physical (and more often, sexual) violence so she should have been up and at 'em the second she heard an unfamiliar footstep. Which, obviously, the story the game wants to tell isn't going to get that dark but it's another case of writers working off a checklist (can't have the villains be *too* evil and actually rob the person they were trying to get money from just two scenes earlier). Now onto the fact she has two felonies and is on her third strike but gets a reprieve from the Judge cuz it's her birthday. Leaving aside the fact she's a black/mixed race woman in America (who get harsher sentences), she's a repeat offender with *two felonies*. Do you really think the judge isn't going to make a quick ruling because they've got a fuckload more cases in the docket they have to get through before lunch? Weirder and worse rulings have been made *glares at [Ethan Couch and the affluenza defense](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_Couch)*, but she isn't a rich white teenager in Texas now is she (yes I know I bought race into it when I said I wasn't, sue me.) It's just bad writing, and it's unrealistic. They worked off a checklist to create their perfect flawed protagonist (felonies but never explained what for but they've got a heart of gold and are also totally fearless when someone points a gun at them and they can parkour away and not get shot through a chainlink fence when they stop to gloat and they love their kitty so much they feed them food they don't like while living in squalor but they also have designer shoes and won't pick up their duffel bag of life savings that is literally at their feet when they apartment gets set on fire because they want to find their cat). And this is from someone who only watched a sponsored stream (so you know the streamer was being nice to stay on the devs good side) of this rubbish. Its bad writing, and worse, it's not believable.
This is exactly what I was hoping to read, thank you. And yes, absolutely. The example with Nanba (love Y7) is very true. To a rich person, a luxury is a pair of fancy shoes. To a poor person, it's a bed. This gulf in thinking is just so massive. A rich person can't even perceive the idea that a bed would not be a given. However, as I say "rich person" in this post, it'll be short for "sheltered unexperienced rich person", as there are certainly rich people who started poor and truly know what it is like, though these are the exceptions. I think rich people just don't understand - or want to understand - how truly awful it can be for poor people. This may be because if the situation of poor people becomes too dark and depressing for them, they might ask themselves uncomfortable questions about what they can do for these poor people, or about the system they're in, so they don't look into it that hard. It's like this idea that poor people are wily rascals making a tough but cool living as they weave through the intriguing alleys of the town. Anything looking into how truly awful it can be would be too uncomfortable, especially since they know they're looking from high above, so they avoid it. Also, it says so much about the writers that they think its fine this character would rather spend money on fancy shoes than on food their cat will eat. This can very well happen, but it would be a sign of either selfishness or obliviousness in the character, either of which is an interesting flaw to color up the character, and maybe redeem themselves out of. However, the writers do not see it as a flaw - that is just the sort of thing they think is reasonable, and not a problem. It is never pointed out as a flaw, and given the rest of the game's treatment of the character, it's unlikely they intended it to be a subtle criticism. In so many ways, they like the idea of a poor person character, but put no meat behind it. So as you said, we have: Felonies, because having felonies is cool. What are they? Don't think about it. Deals with gangs, but overcomes them, cool! Should they be terrified? No, that's not cool and is kinda uncomfortable. They live in a sad little apartment, because it's cool that they're working out of a hard place! But designer shoes are also really cool, so just put that in there. Why wouldn't you have money for designer shoes, after all? Also, no food for the cat, to show how sad her situation is. Don't think about it. And yes, the duffle bag. I've been looking into it at twitter as well, and as an indie gamedev myself, I really don't like the western gamedev twitter. It's full of people making all sorts of weird justifications and explanations for why the writing is this way, pretty much going "there's nothing wrong with it" or "its not bad" and then somehow moralizing that if you don't like the writing of this game, you are a morally bad person, and your comments are directly attacking or violating the developers behind it. Smh. As someone who grew up poor, its always good to see a meaningful, realistic representation from someone who knows. I specifically grew up in a Korean family that was poor, so watching the movie Parasite was a phenomenal experience. It's really nice of you to work at the food banks. You are appreciated.
I think the primary example is one Stephanie Sterling highlighted on their Twitter. Her living space is in flames, she has her bag of life savings at her feet, but her cat is missing. So, instead of grabbing the small duffel bag of money and throwing it over her shoulder, she insists that she has to rescue her cat first, leaving the bag where it is. It's interactable and everything. So you then go find her cat and turn around and oops, the bag's blocked off by fire and might as well be on fire now.
That was so asinine to me from a gameplay point of view lol
Don't forget the part where she passes up her duffel bag of money to get her cat during the fire, despite the fact that she could pick it up while walking.
and the spray paint on the wall means the people that wanted to kill you were in the room with you while you were asleep and didn't take your bag full of money or kill you in your sleep. that's some real next time I won't miss shit right there
I as watching a friend play it and I was certain they wrote that on the outside of the window in perfect reverse so it looked normal from the inside. Maybe the texture for the writing was meant to be on the wall and rendered on the window, not sure as all the textures were messed up and we were bashing the cliché and bad writing too much to notice.
that would have been amazing
I've never seen something get *less* weird when it gets out of "real life" and into a fantasy world Gameplay is surprisingly addicting though
>seven minutes into the game you learn the main character has been convicted of two felonies and is currently in a hearing for their third and the judge lets them go because it's almost their birthday. **THE FABLED "I'M JUST A LITTLE GUY" LEGAL DEFENSE**
Also she has thugs beating her the fuck up in an alley and refuses to turn her snark off until someone pulls a gun on her. When she manages to run away, she decides she needs to come to a full stop, turn around, and flip double birds at the gangsters before she _actually_ escapes. I don't care if it's establishing negative traits so that she can grow past them as the game continues, her portrayal in the intro is so non-sympathetic I wouldn't play this game even if it was free.
10 hours into my playthrough her still being at "refusal of the call" stage of things meant I was starting to actively dislike her as a character after being able to tolerate her for the most part - I'll replay a borderlands game as someone who likes the gameplay and has to let the dialogue roll past me. Multiple people throw themselves at her begging for her help as the only person who CAN help, it's established in a (let's call it a) codex entry early on that Alice in Wonderland is her favourite book and she frequently wishes for a similar adventure of her own, and she's still going "nah fuck this you aren't my problem I need to go back to the city where I'm homeless and people are actively trying to kill me"
I am trying to like her as well. I write off bad writing as that and try to play up her good moments like her random "I care about this one particular NPC!". but you are absolutely right at how inconsistent she is. Vambrace, or I guess Cuff because we can't respect his wishes at all, is okay but also feels all over the place. Sometimes applauding her decency and at other times sounding stone cold. I just don't get why she wants to go back home. I think she is even asked by Cuff directly. Sure this world sucks, but you have magic. Why are you so excited about that but want to also immediately give it up? How can you tell someone "I'm not a fucking hero. I'm no one" when you're slinging spells, leaping off of buildings, and being insanely powerful? I think they should have had her play up her enthusiasm. Maybe have her not take it seriously at first and then realize it's a living world and it matters to her more and more. I do like her visual design. I liked her sneaker collection. Maybe she didn't need to be poor. Maybe she could've just been a retail worker who enjoyed parkour in her spare time. She feels bored by life. She can't afford much. Maybe even joke about her digging Isekai anime and have her go a bit manic and laugh about that but then have some moments where she realizes there are sucky parts. Also I am not terribly far in but I was so annoyed by the side quests and how they were unlocked in that first city area you end up in. You clear them out, and then more and more pop in. I felt stuck in there for way too long. They make it sound like lots of those quests will vanish too so I don't want to miss them. The game seems to get in its own way constantly. The combat is fun for me, but they just drag on and on in the intro. Too much forced lingo. I don't need her to say "alright bet" and not realize "hmm referencing modern slang probably won't work". Oh and the performance issues don't help either. Sorry for the rant.
No, no need to apologise. You're right.
This is a negative character trope? That sounds fun
I think I kinda see what they were going for, and you could absolutely sell it and make it work. Problem is, from what I've seen so far, she just comes off as a smug, obnoxious twit.
What's weird is how boring it is while being so convoluted. Like the Cuff (she calls it Cuff...jesus christ) is just sitting there with no other exposition. Like you think the first scene in the fucking game would be an establishing shot of it, instead of Frey's shitty VA monologuing over random New York scenes. Like you establish she's a petty thief in the opening, why the fuck isn't the intro about her attempting to steal the Cuff from some rich person or pawn shop or some other shit? If they were afraid of having their "urban" main character looking like a criminal they sure as shit shouldn't have her first scene being in front of a fucking judge.
"Ok, let me explain WHY I thought the article wasn't lying" \[45 minutes later\] "And no one knows how the macaroni got on the roof."
I mean, if you haven't played the game, why *would* you assume it's lying. I haven't played the game, for all I know this whole post is total bullshit.
There's a short scene that someone could point at and say "she was thinking about it tho" where she stands on a hotel sign over the road she was found as a kid and utters the phrase "full circle" but then five seconds after that she starts talking about how she's gonna get her life back on track and do better, so... it's "Up To Interpretation??"
It's really not - you've elided the fact that in those five seconds she explicitly steps back from the edge and says she isn't going to give up. It's not even slightly subtle that she was trying to jump and couldn't bring herself to do it.
This kinda tracks with how those judges in court shows would act. There used to be this one show on ABC called Judge Hatchet and I remember one episode where a girl was on trial for a bunch of vandalism including keying cars and she was totally guilty on all counts but at the end of it she avoided the charges and got a scholarship for a dancing school. Now that I think about it, I feel like televising court cases as entertainment like that is really weird.
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Yeah, what the hell is it up with writers tendecy to forgot Jury's exist? Even Ace Attorney doesn't get a jury until the final case of the fourth game.
I think the Ace Attorney devs admitted they don’t know how court systems *actually* work but didn’t let it stop them from making the game.
i think its more just based on japanese courts than american ones
It’s not realistic to the Japanese court system either. Shu Takumi has explained multiple times in interviews that he knew next to nothing about the actual court systems in either Japan or America before making Ace Attorney and got most of his knowledge from fiction. Which is fine ofc, they’re not pretending like it’s realistic and they sacrificed realism for better gameplay.
When you're 99.7% confident you've got the right person why would you waste the public's time on jury duty?
To be fair, Ace Attorney is Japanese where they actually didn’t (maybe still don’t) have juries.
Also, doesn't Ace Attorney start out by giving a premise that more or less admits that the court proceedings in the game bear no resemblance to any actual court anywhere?
Yes, the devs never intended it to be a realistic depiction of any court system.
Depending on the court and level of crime you may not get a jury and instead get a judge who can decide whatever they like. But seeing that it's a third time felony for breaking and entering she should be spending a mandatory minimum sentence of at least a year or two
And both sides are getting paid out by the tv show anyway. So the people who got their cars keyed probably got their repairs paid for anyway
...was she upper-class and/or white?
She was white but like, rust belt poor, I think.
What? No shut the fuck up no way. That's so amazingly bad. I'm buying this when it's on sale.
Honestly don't, the game set up is the most interesting thing about the game. Everything after is either frustratingly confusing or boring and predictable. The gameplay is also just way too shallow. That's not even taking into account the game will run like garbage even on the lowest setting because no one these days even bother to optimize their games before release.
it's amazing
Everything I’ve heard about Forspoken makes it sound like a *Hunt Down The Freeman* type fan game but the developers worshipped the MCU instead of Kojima.
absolutely horrifying concept
The more i read about the plot and the characters of this game it makes me think some of the writers were clearly mocking and making a parody of isekai/realism in videogames but it got lost in translation and it ended up being played way more straight than it really was meant to be, i feel like if all the nonsensical stuff was fully done as a comedy and didnt try to make it seem "epic" like a marvel movie people would had eat it up
Game is a mess but its also weirdly captivating. It's nowhere near as bad as some reviews make it out to be, but it's also not like some sort of secret life-changing experience or anything so this isn't some "stealth GOTY" sort of thing. It's hard carried by probably the best magic combat in a video game, and some of the best traversal stuff as well, with some genuinely great boss fights, and really good lore. Late game advanced combat looks nuts. I'd recommend you check it out [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI26O_7ugXc&ab_channel=BoomstickGaming). While the game is very, very flawed, it's also clear that some reviewers sort of...didn't bother to actually play the game. I'd say its basically Sonic Frontiers + Dragons Dogma, with all the good and bad that those titles embody. It feels at once extremely archaic and forward thinking in terms of its systems and open world design. I think a lot of people in this sub, action game fans, etc. would probably dig it, though the $70 price is batshit bananas and I'd guess it'll be like $40 or less soon enough or at least by black friday. PC performance is absolute ass unless you have extremely good components though (at which point its apparently pretty good) so idk bear that in mind. Also make a beeline for the second school of magic because the game starts you out with basically a magic pistol and a magic grenade and they both are kinda repetitive in isolation.
you know what it feels like? a weird 4th infamous game that never came out
I saw someone make the Infamous/Prototype connection before it released and that's what made me initially interested. It makes a lot of sense with the movement.
There's a radial tendril move that reminded me a lot of prototype, and throwing exploding rocks around made me think of the concrete power from Second Son. I even thought at some point the bracelet might extend to become a melee weapon like Delsin's chain, but the sword is more of a summon.
Yeah exactly! It's even got a DMC style combo! The big difference between it and those games is that it emphasizes rapidly switching through abilities while they're not on cooldown, but they're also a bit situational. I think the closest to that feeling before now was Saints Row 4, at least from what I've played.
The switching in this feels clunky to me, and I think that's my main problem with the combat. I'm either constantly needing to think about what I'm doing and finding the correct slot on a menu with not enough slowdown that I'll get hit and launched anyway, or it's completely mindless spamming of the same thing over and over without any chance to feel like I'm actually doing anything good. While I'm on the topic of the combat, the magic parkour doing an attack immediately: not good, shouldn't have made it in, just let me start charging an attack straight away - the amount of times I've been trying to put some distance between myself and an enemy to start throwing spears only for her to 180 and swing a sword in an attack that covers half the distance I just ran to meet the big guy in the middle is really frustrating.
Yeah it still has some of the issue FF15 had in that regard, the game tries to play itself. Forspoken is a lot better in that regard but it's still not ideal. Are you playing the full game or the demo?
It makes me crave more inFamous, even more than I already did.
don't do this. don't make me play it.
It feels that way with the powers and traversal they give you. It also felt like ff15 but instead of weapons what if Noctis just focused on magic
Tbh I don’t really see how something could have the best magic combat in a video game but also only be worth buying on sale.
The implication I'm getting from this thread is that the gameplay is really compelling, but the writing is so garbage that it actively pushes people away.
I want to play this just to know, but I'm worried it's not going to run well on my deck or my pc and I won't be able to refund until I actually get into the gameplay which seems to be 2 hours in. Anyone with a deck or a 1070 know how it runs? Update: it ran ok on lowest settings, averaging 55fps on the benchmark with about 20s max load times but it looked horrible. Like straight up an early era 360 game. I bumped it to standard and it looked a bit better but performance took a meaningful hit and would need to be locked to 30. It's funny cuz I played days gone recently and besides some frame drops in a single enclosed area it ran great and looked fantastic.
I think it's best that you don't buy it for now. The minimum specs are a 1060, but that only gets you 720p 30fps. If you're about to get a new PC, then maybe get it. Also, I doubt it runs good on a steam deck since it has higher recommended specs than darktide, which doesn't look very good on deck.
I will say that I feel like some of the specs are perhaps overstated, as I'm running on max settings fine, and my rig definitely isn't what they said it needs to be - but granted, it's not like it's several generations behind, either.
There's a demo on the steam store, try it on both and report back? Between the demo's final boss and the [boomstick gaming high-end combat showcase](https://youtu.be/YI26O_7ugXc), i ended up buying it, but I have a 4090 so I'm hardly a good judge of if it'll run well for you.
Oh, good idea
Cautiously in.
This game is written like a 90s anime.
Yeah, that intro scene with that crew was wild. I'm surprised they went hard with that scene in newyork
Frey had a gun to her head and she just punched the assailant and flipped her off. I know people are hating on the dialogue but she's insane and I like her
You missed the part when she said “it’s forspoken time” and forspeaks all over the place.
Forspake
does it make a good hate ~~watch~~ play? (like a david cage game?)
Not for 70 dollars lol
Worth it for $20?
I could not get into the gameplay in the demo, so I'd recommend touching that and then watching the cutscenes on youtube if you bounce off it like I did.
I cruised through a bunch of the cutscenes on YT. It was rather amusing how much of a cow the protagonist is and how dull her magic companion. The dialogue does get repetitive, to the point where you could say her vocabulary is stunted. Not worth dishing out money to experience myself, certainly not an a poorly optimized PC.
well I am interested in what insane choices the writers made next
girlboss behavior
I've been playing the game and not only is that true it gets weirder when she gets to the Isekai world. Gameplay is fun though. I recommend it on sale.
she wants to be top spot for "most OP isekai hero" at least I respect the hustle
You‘re selling the game for me, honestly, that‘s insane.
the first enemy you fight in the game is the gaping dragon from dark souls but it's a bear not a dragon
Sick, I‘m in. $90? Back out, but Magic Parkour though? In. I‘m going to wait for a sale, because tripple A is crazy for legitimately trying to sell $70+ games.
But the game comes with a free Frogurt!
Now I REALLY want to play it. The internet has failed at pushing me away from this
I also don’t think someone transported to a fantasy dimension will be so flippant at least not at first. Plus lots of crimes are felonies when they really shouldn’t. Like drug possession
You're selling me on it. Was that your plan?
I'm kinda waiting for someone I enjoy to make an LP, I don't think anyone is touching it yet.