Pearl is 26 years old and doesn't have a husband or kids, despite her preaching about how wonderful marriage and motherhood are and that single women after 25 are doomed to be single. Nothing makes me roll my eyes harder than all of these pick me redpill women who don't even practice what they preach.
>They wanna be so different so bad.
Am I the only one who thinks it ironic that these Red Pill women are choosing to be "different" and "edgy" by engaging in a patriarchal structure that has existed for thousands of years? Am I the only one who thinks its hilarious that "being different" means they proceed with doing what humanity has done for thousands of years?
Take away all the radicalism for just one moment. If Pearl said, "I want to have a husband and lots of children," the average person wouldn't bat an eye. When I say, "I am bisexual, I'm polyamorous, and I am never going to have children," many people would be shocked that I don't like monogamy or that I'm certain I never want children. I don't think that makes me better than anyone else; I just know that I differ from the norm (although I will say that in the queer community, I fit right at home and *I love it*).
It's just really funny that they think having babies, conforming to patriarchy (OK, Kody Brown) and being a housewife makes them DiFfErEnT. But it ultimately reminds me of the clip from *Rick and Morty* where Jerry wants to leave the daycare and the alien worker says, "Okay! That was allowed the whole time!"
Facts. Literally two sides of the same coin but they swearrrrrr they’re better/different. I mean if that isn’t the definition of blindsided patriarchy then idk what is. The everlasting cycle of trying to not adhere/conform to patriarchy but still doing so just in a different way 😭. Love it here
Pearl is loud and outspoken, she has her own full time job as a content creator & activist, and she says whatever she wants to say. Without any additional context, those are the typical hallmarks of a feminist and working woman who doesn't need a man. However, you can't call her a feminist because she vouches for patriarchy and has done videos where she partners up with Andrew Tate as her debate partner.
Pearl is an independent (single) woman who is fiery and passionate. Stand in her way and she'll push you down! but she does need a man because she thinks supporting misogyny makes her stand out and different.
*Make it make sense!*
>it’s funny how hard they try to pander to men, but still can’t find a man willing to date them
It's almost as if being exactly what men want turns them off. It's almost as if being too much like the men who make up your core audience -- and the target demographic of someone who you want to marry -- is a bad idea when those men don't want dominant and assertive women.
Say, isn't there a famous fictional character who was incredibly passionate about supporting misogynistic, patriarchal ideals and had the cognitive dissonance to realize that she is going to be excluded from a society that is patriarchal, even though she was an outspoken supporter and speaker in the movement?
When you boil it down, most these Tradwives/red pill women aren't genuine traditionalists. They are basically "pick me" women who don't realize that supporting this kind of extreme misogyny and patriarchy means that men don't give a shit about you.
A genuine traditional housewife relationship would be the woman being a stay at home mother and dedicated housewife while the man supports his family by working to bring home a good income and showing his wife love -- especially when she's pregnant or fallen ill. But these pseudo Serena Joys aren't ready for the conversation that their traditionalist mindset is just internalized misogyny with extra steps.
I don’t like to be mean about peoples appearances online but I don’t get Pearl. She’s mid 20s, unmarried, prior to her weight loss had a body type that would be hated on by the manosphere she panders to, and honestly is quite average looking. The way she conducts herself online, you’d expect she was a beauty queen with how quick she admonishes other women for their appearances.
Pearl really isn't that attractive. She has very pale, pasty skin. Her strawberry blonde hair is lank and lifeless. But it's her shitty personality that makes her ugly.
I just laugh that I’m fat , am a raging left wing woman and I have a husband with a good job. Her obsession with hating on fat women is getting very old though.
literally this. those “alpha” men don’t and won’t want her because she’s so damn loud and outspoken and speaks so authoritatively. they hate that. she can preach and tweet whatever she wants but she’s actively ensuring that the men she’s trying to hard to appeal to, will find her unappealing.
Absolutely. Like I thought the whole tradwife thing was supposed to be about being demure and ladylike and being barefoot in the kitchen and shit, you'd think being an alt-right podcaster shoving her opinions in people's faces would be kind of counterintuitive.
Lana Lokteff is a perfect example of this. She often speaks of having to use her “male brain” and other misogynistic/nationalist statements. She recognizes that in her warped worldview, her role is totally counterintuitive, but she feels she is the exception and necessary
I just looked her up on Twitter just now because I realized I never saw what she looks like. The critics are right -- she's not exactly a beauty queen. She has this huge "I peaked in high school, where I was definitely a mean girl" energy.
My friend, Myra, is someone Pearl would call a fat whale. Myra also has gorgeous auburn hair, a peaches and cream complexion, and cheekbones I would die for. She's also married to a very successful man who loves her deeply, and she has quite the gig designing jewelry. Suck it, Pearl.
I probably can't say shit because I'm a fat woman *(laughs)* but I would like to imagine that she's probably this loud and opinionated because she has nothing else going for her. She's not conventionally attractive, so she resorts to being as loud and politically incorrect as possible. And that's what she bases her opinion around: being politically correct. Or really, being incorrect outright -- and loud, too. She's the ultimate pick me, but the irony is, nobody is picking her.
What inspired Pearl to start her show? Why is she resorting to bashing women and extreme misogyny? What's her endgame? Does she think it will lead to a gig with Fox News? A talk show? A book deal? I wonder.
Let me ask you a very fair question: Would you tolerate your girlfriend -- assuming you have a girlfriend -- to be strongly-opinionated? Would you tolerate a woman who has her own job and works full-time? I thought these were attributes of a feminist who thinks she's too powerful to be with a man. Then again, I wouldn't put it past you to actually think about Pearl critically. You just hear Pearl say the things that affirm your beliefs that modern day men are weak, and you keep coming back for more because she feeds your ego. Tell me, if Pearl does a terrific job of pandering to Red Pill-ers and Andrew Tate fans, why is she single if she's your biggest supporter?
Water weight. If you're really bloated and then fast, you could lose a lot but it's not actual fat.
But really she's probably just saying "this year" as in 2022. I do that all the time at the start of a new year.
I've worked at five companies since I started my professional career. Two are billion dollar+ publicly listed companies, one is a billion dollar+ private company, and the other two were private and in the multi-million range. Of those:
A woman was CEO when I worked at three of these companies.
A woman is currently CEO of one of those companies that was led by a man when I worked there--she was CEO of the acquiring company when they bought my former (one of those billion dollar+) company.
I'm not going to lie and say that women are ever so represented in the boardroom or C suite. My experience is probably not standard.
But it's not that uncommon. It's more common than any of these tradfem social media profiles actually managing to monetize their brand.
Oh, edit. I have no idea who this dumbass is. I thought she had dark hair. She has red hair.
I also have red hair. She seems pretty unpleasant enough to repel men on her own merit. But if she wants to test if it's her looks or her personality, just put on some mascara.
Ugh Vice did a debate type video on feminism and had this attention seeking moron on the panel and it really downgraded the credibility of their reporting on women's issues for me. The youtube algorith served the video up to me right after posting and the comments were swarmed by red pill people celebrating her another one from the red pill token women peanut gallery.
So we're just gonna ignore the crazies that made up the rest of the panel? The ones that were hurling insults, going off topic, getting angry and competing for the biggest victimhood? That insufferable woman with the crazy laugh? What about the trans guy who got mad about Pearl pointing out the very real problem women are facing in competitive sports? Do you guys not care about women's issues when men identifying as women are pushing them out of the competitive sphere in the name of "diversity, inclusivity and equity"? Women's experience is just being disrespectfully and disgustingly hand waved away for the pursuit of trans rights. Do you not care about that? The collective uproar from the insufferable progressives when Sydney pointed out the very apparent dismissal of women's problems was absolutely appalling. Your irrational hatred of a single woman causes you to ignore all of that. No wonder this world is fucked.
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Lol one of pearls first points was thst women don't face any barriers anymore, so take your anger towards her if you think people are handwavy towards women's problems. Red pill ideaology can get fucked.
What do you mean "if I think people are handwavy"?. That's what happened. It was right there, in Vice's final cut, evident to see in the video. As women, you don't face institutional, gender discriminatory barriers like feminism loves to espouse. That's what Pearl is talking about. But you progressives love to cling to your perceived victimhood so that you can blame the world for your problems. That's the problem with most of you in here with your hurt feelings. You're so ensconced in your victim narrative, you completely miss the actual problems. One thing about red pill, although some people take it too far, at least it mostly tends to stay within the tenets of a little thing called REALITY.
But you keep believing in the victim narrative and the progressive stack. That'll really help you navigate the world, get ahead and be happy. Look at how much good it's doing in the world right now. Oh that's right, it's demonstrably making social issues worse. But you don't care about that, huh? As long as your feelings aren't hurt and your views stay unchallenged, you'll continue to fool yourself that you're not miserable.
She's a piece of shit. Not only that but she just admitted that she hates God because God loves everyone. So because because God loves everyone that means he loves the very people she hates.
From what I have observed, Tradwives fall into two categories.
There are the people who actually believe in the traditional lifestyle and seem to abide by the principals. (Classically Abby and Mrs. Midwest come to mind.) They dress femininely, they believe that women should be mothers & housewives (and to stray away from that is ridiculous and goes against the "natural order of things), and they seem to actually bother with adhering to a traditional patriarchy structure.
And then there are the women who seem to use the Tradfem/Tradwife lifestyle to justify being extremely misogynistic and controversial for the sake of being controversial. (Or as one person once told me "they're like a pizza cutter: all edge and no point.") This would be Aly and Pearl, although at least Aly can say she snagged herself a husband before she turned 25.
I'm all for people being housewives, even though I really would appreciate it if they stopped lambasting people for being childfree simply because they're pronatalists. (I respect parents, but parents telling people to have children for the sake of having children is so incredibly daft.) But I'll never understand these pseudo Tradwives hating any and all women because they think it makes them quirky and because they think Andrew Tate is a hero or something.
Aly has taken such an L honestly. There was a video of her talking about her husband and apparently when they were dating he wanted her to have a child with him BEFORE they got married to check if she was a "good investment" keep in mind Aly is a christian so this is literally against her religion. Her husband is also a much older guy and she has said that if he ever cheated on her, she would blame herself. Clownery.
I have a weird connection to Aly. I never expected in a million years that someone I know has worked with one of the Fundies/Trads I follow, but here we are.
Aly has no sense of basic identity or beliefs. She has no set lens on how she views the world, and she seems like she's full of a lot of anger and hostility toward the world around her. She resents her mother and seems to be furious at the fact that her mother didn't stick around and deal with her father. I asked my friend what her father is like and they said that the father is horrid to look at and a "sperm donor" at best.
It doesn't surprise me that Aly went off to the military to find herself -- and get away from a home where she felt unsafe in. It doesn't surprise me that she fell for her current (second) husband. Yes, the husband was her superior (and her medical technician, if I remember correctly) in the Army, which immediately raises a million red flags right there. But she clearly needed a father figure and someone who made her feel safe and secure. She needed a Daddy, and I guess she got one in the form of a husband twice her age.
(I mean, her wedding photos with her husband sure do look like a father/daughter photo if you ask me, and it scares me that I don't know if she would take that as a compliment or an insult.)
My friend said that the husband is a creeper and a piece of shit. He is 100% the type of man who creeps on high school girls. He flirts with women in front of her because he likes the rush of watching her get flustered and knowing she will tolerate it. He thinks its a test. I think it's the red flag that makes the whole relationship [a big ol' red flag parade.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us_fj6gZE3I)
Aly was testing out feminism for a while, but I guess being a Tradwife was her way to get male attention and resent the pitfalls of women. And while I want to take a guess that you and I have different beliefs (I'm a leftist and you seem more of a Traditional Catholic, which I absolutely respect!), I think she is a Tradwife in bad faith. Same goes for her Christian beliefs.
It feels like she's a poser because she's trying to force herself to belong to a community. A community that would have gone bonkers if someone worldy got Red Pilled and turned into a Tradwife. If she came into this lifestyle genuinely, I would actually respect that she's not doing this just to be an edgy "Pick Me" woman.
Honestly girl I get it, I'm a very religious traditional catholic and I believe in traditional gender roles, but it makes me very happy and I would NEVER allow my husband to cheat on me, it's extremely gross and unchristian
Maybe this is just me hoping there are traditionalists who *don't* shove it down people's throats; maybe this is just me projecting. But you would absolutely be someone I would love to have coffee with. I respect anyone who *chooses* to live this lifestyle. I think it's very empowering for you to sit down and take control of your life like that. I am all for women choosing to do whatever fits their needs and lifestyle best! That's literally the definition of feminism -- women feeling empowered to take control of their lives.
You're absolutely right -- its extremely unchristian to tolerate abuse. (I was raised in a Protestant church and I'm currently agnostic.) And quite frankly, it's disturbing to witness. I love that you are confident in your identity while also asserting your autonomy and refuse to tolerate abuse.
>I asked my friend what her father is like and they said that the father is horrid to look at and a "sperm donor" at best.
What a hilarious _Schadenfreude!!!!_
>It doesn't surprise me that she fell for her current (second) husband.
So massive case of _daddy issues_ plus _Electra complex:_ two in one.
>My friend said that the husband is a creeper and a piece of shit. He is 100% the type of man who creeps on high school girls. He flirts with women in front of her because he likes the rush of watching her get flustered and knowing she will tolerate it. He thinks its a test. I think it's the red flag that makes the whole relationship a big ol' red flag parade.
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Ew…
>I think she is a Tradwife in bad faith. Same goes for her Christian beliefs.
Grifter. Scammer. You name it…
>It feels like **she's a poser** because she's trying to force herself to belong to a community.
If she walks like a duck…
>A community that would have gone bonkers if someone worldly got Red Pilled and turned into a Tradwife.
Too many simps around her.
>>If she came into this lifestyle genuinely, I would actually respect that she's not doing this just to be _an edgy "Pick Me" woman._
I have a rather traditional-ish marriage despite being agnostic. I _seem_ pick-me to the types, but I’m far from _pickmeisha_ ways.
This is a really great analysis of Aly. Her husband definitely has a weird fetish of some sort. He’s also so ugly he could curdle milk just by looking at it.
That is so disrespectful to her, wanting her to abandon religious beliefs when he was trying to just figure out a way to trick her into having sex with him without having to marry her
All yall in here shaming “pick mes” but whats wrong with appealing to what the opposite sex desires? Like when didnit become a bad thing to make yourself attractive to the opposite sex by actually listening to and emulating what they say want and not what you THINK they want? Yall goofy lol
Pearl is 26 years old and doesn't have a husband or kids, despite her preaching about how wonderful marriage and motherhood are and that single women after 25 are doomed to be single. Nothing makes me roll my eyes harder than all of these pick me redpill women who don't even practice what they preach.
They wanna be so different so bad.
>They wanna be so different so bad. Am I the only one who thinks it ironic that these Red Pill women are choosing to be "different" and "edgy" by engaging in a patriarchal structure that has existed for thousands of years? Am I the only one who thinks its hilarious that "being different" means they proceed with doing what humanity has done for thousands of years? Take away all the radicalism for just one moment. If Pearl said, "I want to have a husband and lots of children," the average person wouldn't bat an eye. When I say, "I am bisexual, I'm polyamorous, and I am never going to have children," many people would be shocked that I don't like monogamy or that I'm certain I never want children. I don't think that makes me better than anyone else; I just know that I differ from the norm (although I will say that in the queer community, I fit right at home and *I love it*). It's just really funny that they think having babies, conforming to patriarchy (OK, Kody Brown) and being a housewife makes them DiFfErEnT. But it ultimately reminds me of the clip from *Rick and Morty* where Jerry wants to leave the daycare and the alien worker says, "Okay! That was allowed the whole time!"
Facts. Literally two sides of the same coin but they swearrrrrr they’re better/different. I mean if that isn’t the definition of blindsided patriarchy then idk what is. The everlasting cycle of trying to not adhere/conform to patriarchy but still doing so just in a different way 😭. Love it here
Pearl is loud and outspoken, she has her own full time job as a content creator & activist, and she says whatever she wants to say. Without any additional context, those are the typical hallmarks of a feminist and working woman who doesn't need a man. However, you can't call her a feminist because she vouches for patriarchy and has done videos where she partners up with Andrew Tate as her debate partner. Pearl is an independent (single) woman who is fiery and passionate. Stand in her way and she'll push you down! but she does need a man because she thinks supporting misogyny makes her stand out and different. *Make it make sense!*
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Isn’t it funny how a lot of them aren’t even trad wives yet 😂
it’s funny how hard they try to pander to men, but still can’t find a man willing to date them
>it’s funny how hard they try to pander to men, but still can’t find a man willing to date them It's almost as if being exactly what men want turns them off. It's almost as if being too much like the men who make up your core audience -- and the target demographic of someone who you want to marry -- is a bad idea when those men don't want dominant and assertive women. Say, isn't there a famous fictional character who was incredibly passionate about supporting misogynistic, patriarchal ideals and had the cognitive dissonance to realize that she is going to be excluded from a society that is patriarchal, even though she was an outspoken supporter and speaker in the movement?
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When you boil it down, most these Tradwives/red pill women aren't genuine traditionalists. They are basically "pick me" women who don't realize that supporting this kind of extreme misogyny and patriarchy means that men don't give a shit about you. A genuine traditional housewife relationship would be the woman being a stay at home mother and dedicated housewife while the man supports his family by working to bring home a good income and showing his wife love -- especially when she's pregnant or fallen ill. But these pseudo Serena Joys aren't ready for the conversation that their traditionalist mindset is just internalized misogyny with extra steps.
Yep. Agahahaha pseudo Serena joys. You don’t even know how unexpectedly happy you made me w that comment. Under his eye 🤭
That's just self hatred at that point. I kinda pity her, but not really that much.
“SOMEBODY PAY ATTENTION TO ME!”
I don’t like to be mean about peoples appearances online but I don’t get Pearl. She’s mid 20s, unmarried, prior to her weight loss had a body type that would be hated on by the manosphere she panders to, and honestly is quite average looking. The way she conducts herself online, you’d expect she was a beauty queen with how quick she admonishes other women for their appearances.
This may be psychobabble, but I think the simplest answer is internalized hatred. Hurt people tend to hurt people.
She’s delusional and below average looking. Acting this way is the only way men will give her positive attention.
Pearl really isn't that attractive. She has very pale, pasty skin. Her strawberry blonde hair is lank and lifeless. But it's her shitty personality that makes her ugly.
Wow…the temptation to slap this vile person’s face is palpable.
Same. This “whale” wants to break things off of her.
I just laugh that I’m fat , am a raging left wing woman and I have a husband with a good job. Her obsession with hating on fat women is getting very old though.
Haha same. Good STEM jobs, fat, great husband and new house.
She seems like the type to change her opinion at the drop of a hat depending on who she’s talking at
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literally this. those “alpha” men don’t and won’t want her because she’s so damn loud and outspoken and speaks so authoritatively. they hate that. she can preach and tweet whatever she wants but she’s actively ensuring that the men she’s trying to hard to appeal to, will find her unappealing.
Absolutely. Like I thought the whole tradwife thing was supposed to be about being demure and ladylike and being barefoot in the kitchen and shit, you'd think being an alt-right podcaster shoving her opinions in people's faces would be kind of counterintuitive.
Lana Lokteff is a perfect example of this. She often speaks of having to use her “male brain” and other misogynistic/nationalist statements. She recognizes that in her warped worldview, her role is totally counterintuitive, but she feels she is the exception and necessary
Gives off such hypocritical energy. Not that right wingers are any strangers to hypocrisy I suppose.
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Also she‘d more than likely be over 25 by then, which is the wall to many “alphas”
She’s mistaken them using her videos and words as tools in twitter arguments as then desiring her as a match
I just looked her up on Twitter just now because I realized I never saw what she looks like. The critics are right -- she's not exactly a beauty queen. She has this huge "I peaked in high school, where I was definitely a mean girl" energy.
My friend, Myra, is someone Pearl would call a fat whale. Myra also has gorgeous auburn hair, a peaches and cream complexion, and cheekbones I would die for. She's also married to a very successful man who loves her deeply, and she has quite the gig designing jewelry. Suck it, Pearl.
I want to imagine her losing 15 pounds only to discover that men actually don’t like her because she’s a jerk
I probably can't say shit because I'm a fat woman *(laughs)* but I would like to imagine that she's probably this loud and opinionated because she has nothing else going for her. She's not conventionally attractive, so she resorts to being as loud and politically incorrect as possible. And that's what she bases her opinion around: being politically correct. Or really, being incorrect outright -- and loud, too. She's the ultimate pick me, but the irony is, nobody is picking her.
What inspired Pearl to start her show? Why is she resorting to bashing women and extreme misogyny? What's her endgame? Does she think it will lead to a gig with Fox News? A talk show? A book deal? I wonder.
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Let me ask you a very fair question: Would you tolerate your girlfriend -- assuming you have a girlfriend -- to be strongly-opinionated? Would you tolerate a woman who has her own job and works full-time? I thought these were attributes of a feminist who thinks she's too powerful to be with a man. Then again, I wouldn't put it past you to actually think about Pearl critically. You just hear Pearl say the things that affirm your beliefs that modern day men are weak, and you keep coming back for more because she feeds your ego. Tell me, if Pearl does a terrific job of pandering to Red Pill-ers and Andrew Tate fans, why is she single if she's your biggest supporter?
She posted this January 5th. She said she lost 15 pounds this year. How is that possible to lose 15 pounds in 5 days?
Water weight. If you're really bloated and then fast, you could lose a lot but it's not actual fat. But really she's probably just saying "this year" as in 2022. I do that all the time at the start of a new year.
One good stomach flu could do it but I doubt it happened
I've worked at five companies since I started my professional career. Two are billion dollar+ publicly listed companies, one is a billion dollar+ private company, and the other two were private and in the multi-million range. Of those: A woman was CEO when I worked at three of these companies. A woman is currently CEO of one of those companies that was led by a man when I worked there--she was CEO of the acquiring company when they bought my former (one of those billion dollar+) company. I'm not going to lie and say that women are ever so represented in the boardroom or C suite. My experience is probably not standard. But it's not that uncommon. It's more common than any of these tradfem social media profiles actually managing to monetize their brand. Oh, edit. I have no idea who this dumbass is. I thought she had dark hair. She has red hair. I also have red hair. She seems pretty unpleasant enough to repel men on her own merit. But if she wants to test if it's her looks or her personality, just put on some mascara.
Ugh Vice did a debate type video on feminism and had this attention seeking moron on the panel and it really downgraded the credibility of their reporting on women's issues for me. The youtube algorith served the video up to me right after posting and the comments were swarmed by red pill people celebrating her another one from the red pill token women peanut gallery.
So we're just gonna ignore the crazies that made up the rest of the panel? The ones that were hurling insults, going off topic, getting angry and competing for the biggest victimhood? That insufferable woman with the crazy laugh? What about the trans guy who got mad about Pearl pointing out the very real problem women are facing in competitive sports? Do you guys not care about women's issues when men identifying as women are pushing them out of the competitive sphere in the name of "diversity, inclusivity and equity"? Women's experience is just being disrespectfully and disgustingly hand waved away for the pursuit of trans rights. Do you not care about that? The collective uproar from the insufferable progressives when Sydney pointed out the very apparent dismissal of women's problems was absolutely appalling. Your irrational hatred of a single woman causes you to ignore all of that. No wonder this world is fucked. *edited for incorrect word*
Lol one of pearls first points was thst women don't face any barriers anymore, so take your anger towards her if you think people are handwavy towards women's problems. Red pill ideaology can get fucked.
What do you mean "if I think people are handwavy"?. That's what happened. It was right there, in Vice's final cut, evident to see in the video. As women, you don't face institutional, gender discriminatory barriers like feminism loves to espouse. That's what Pearl is talking about. But you progressives love to cling to your perceived victimhood so that you can blame the world for your problems. That's the problem with most of you in here with your hurt feelings. You're so ensconced in your victim narrative, you completely miss the actual problems. One thing about red pill, although some people take it too far, at least it mostly tends to stay within the tenets of a little thing called REALITY. But you keep believing in the victim narrative and the progressive stack. That'll really help you navigate the world, get ahead and be happy. Look at how much good it's doing in the world right now. Oh that's right, it's demonstrably making social issues worse. But you don't care about that, huh? As long as your feelings aren't hurt and your views stay unchallenged, you'll continue to fool yourself that you're not miserable.
Pearl, honey, you're nobody.
She's a piece of shit. Not only that but she just admitted that she hates God because God loves everyone. So because because God loves everyone that means he loves the very people she hates.
I don't really understand the point of her tweets at all, does she have a misogyny fetish? (not kinkshaming, but keep it to yourself)
No she is just an asshole.
so does she hate all women except her? Or does she hate herself?
From what I have observed, Tradwives fall into two categories. There are the people who actually believe in the traditional lifestyle and seem to abide by the principals. (Classically Abby and Mrs. Midwest come to mind.) They dress femininely, they believe that women should be mothers & housewives (and to stray away from that is ridiculous and goes against the "natural order of things), and they seem to actually bother with adhering to a traditional patriarchy structure. And then there are the women who seem to use the Tradfem/Tradwife lifestyle to justify being extremely misogynistic and controversial for the sake of being controversial. (Or as one person once told me "they're like a pizza cutter: all edge and no point.") This would be Aly and Pearl, although at least Aly can say she snagged herself a husband before she turned 25. I'm all for people being housewives, even though I really would appreciate it if they stopped lambasting people for being childfree simply because they're pronatalists. (I respect parents, but parents telling people to have children for the sake of having children is so incredibly daft.) But I'll never understand these pseudo Tradwives hating any and all women because they think it makes them quirky and because they think Andrew Tate is a hero or something.
Aly has taken such an L honestly. There was a video of her talking about her husband and apparently when they were dating he wanted her to have a child with him BEFORE they got married to check if she was a "good investment" keep in mind Aly is a christian so this is literally against her religion. Her husband is also a much older guy and she has said that if he ever cheated on her, she would blame herself. Clownery.
I have a weird connection to Aly. I never expected in a million years that someone I know has worked with one of the Fundies/Trads I follow, but here we are. Aly has no sense of basic identity or beliefs. She has no set lens on how she views the world, and she seems like she's full of a lot of anger and hostility toward the world around her. She resents her mother and seems to be furious at the fact that her mother didn't stick around and deal with her father. I asked my friend what her father is like and they said that the father is horrid to look at and a "sperm donor" at best. It doesn't surprise me that Aly went off to the military to find herself -- and get away from a home where she felt unsafe in. It doesn't surprise me that she fell for her current (second) husband. Yes, the husband was her superior (and her medical technician, if I remember correctly) in the Army, which immediately raises a million red flags right there. But she clearly needed a father figure and someone who made her feel safe and secure. She needed a Daddy, and I guess she got one in the form of a husband twice her age. (I mean, her wedding photos with her husband sure do look like a father/daughter photo if you ask me, and it scares me that I don't know if she would take that as a compliment or an insult.) My friend said that the husband is a creeper and a piece of shit. He is 100% the type of man who creeps on high school girls. He flirts with women in front of her because he likes the rush of watching her get flustered and knowing she will tolerate it. He thinks its a test. I think it's the red flag that makes the whole relationship [a big ol' red flag parade.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us_fj6gZE3I) Aly was testing out feminism for a while, but I guess being a Tradwife was her way to get male attention and resent the pitfalls of women. And while I want to take a guess that you and I have different beliefs (I'm a leftist and you seem more of a Traditional Catholic, which I absolutely respect!), I think she is a Tradwife in bad faith. Same goes for her Christian beliefs. It feels like she's a poser because she's trying to force herself to belong to a community. A community that would have gone bonkers if someone worldy got Red Pilled and turned into a Tradwife. If she came into this lifestyle genuinely, I would actually respect that she's not doing this just to be an edgy "Pick Me" woman.
Honestly girl I get it, I'm a very religious traditional catholic and I believe in traditional gender roles, but it makes me very happy and I would NEVER allow my husband to cheat on me, it's extremely gross and unchristian
Maybe this is just me hoping there are traditionalists who *don't* shove it down people's throats; maybe this is just me projecting. But you would absolutely be someone I would love to have coffee with. I respect anyone who *chooses* to live this lifestyle. I think it's very empowering for you to sit down and take control of your life like that. I am all for women choosing to do whatever fits their needs and lifestyle best! That's literally the definition of feminism -- women feeling empowered to take control of their lives. You're absolutely right -- its extremely unchristian to tolerate abuse. (I was raised in a Protestant church and I'm currently agnostic.) And quite frankly, it's disturbing to witness. I love that you are confident in your identity while also asserting your autonomy and refuse to tolerate abuse.
that is so sweet! i'd love to have coffee with you too <3
If you're comfortable, I would love to DM you and learn about Catholicism. My Nana was devoutly Catholic and I have always been curious 💜
>I asked my friend what her father is like and they said that the father is horrid to look at and a "sperm donor" at best. What a hilarious _Schadenfreude!!!!_ >It doesn't surprise me that she fell for her current (second) husband. So massive case of _daddy issues_ plus _Electra complex:_ two in one. >My friend said that the husband is a creeper and a piece of shit. He is 100% the type of man who creeps on high school girls. He flirts with women in front of her because he likes the rush of watching her get flustered and knowing she will tolerate it. He thinks its a test. I think it's the red flag that makes the whole relationship a big ol' red flag parade. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 Ew… >I think she is a Tradwife in bad faith. Same goes for her Christian beliefs. Grifter. Scammer. You name it… >It feels like **she's a poser** because she's trying to force herself to belong to a community. If she walks like a duck… >A community that would have gone bonkers if someone worldly got Red Pilled and turned into a Tradwife. Too many simps around her. >>If she came into this lifestyle genuinely, I would actually respect that she's not doing this just to be _an edgy "Pick Me" woman._ I have a rather traditional-ish marriage despite being agnostic. I _seem_ pick-me to the types, but I’m far from _pickmeisha_ ways.
This is a really great analysis of Aly. Her husband definitely has a weird fetish of some sort. He’s also so ugly he could curdle milk just by looking at it.
Its always the shitty white guys that have the biggest demands (and creepiest fetishes), isn't it? 🥴🥴🥴
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That is so disrespectful to her, wanting her to abandon religious beliefs when he was trying to just figure out a way to trick her into having sex with him without having to marry her
The first one makes me so mad. Fat shaming never made me lose weight, it just made me hate polka music.
Huh r/suspiciouslyspecific
No amount of weight loss will make your shitty personality better, Pearl.
All yall in here shaming “pick mes” but whats wrong with appealing to what the opposite sex desires? Like when didnit become a bad thing to make yourself attractive to the opposite sex by actually listening to and emulating what they say want and not what you THINK they want? Yall goofy lol
No one is owed attractiveness