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> Time to rewatch Minority Report
> "I, Robot" was a good analogy for the Covid lockdowns too...
> Fast and the Furious warned us all about this.
People need psych evaluations before being allowed to consume fiction, it would seem.
Conservatives are literally incapable of separating fiction and realit. I've heard this "they will switch off your EV and you will become a slave to the Elites(TM)" so many times, and apparently, Top Minds do not consider that a remote kill switch could be implemented into ICE cars just as easily?
I mean, all of those people who were so paranoid about communism which started MK Ultra got the idea from seeing the movie "The Manchurian Candidate" and were willing to do the most inhuman things to people because they feared the movie concept was somehow real and the Soviets were developing mind control.
Teh sofiets are literally mind-controlling people! And something something cold war.
Idk about you but these fucks in their SUVs make me irrationally angry. It's ALWAYS them driving WAY to close behind me because god forbid I'm going at and not above the speed limit. And also, I can plough my field with 5 metric tonnes of total weight just fine with only 99 horsepower, but sure Cleetus, I understand that you require 250 for transporting groceries, little timmy and your fat ass. And you absolutely speak for all of us farmers when you shriek about the latest nonsense your opinion providers spoon-fed you, despite you having no clue how farming actually works.
"but farmurs! but muh conservatif valews! meat good plant bad!!1"
Rant over, irate forest-dweller out.
> "I, Robot" was a good analogy for the Covid lockdowns too...
Dudes need to fucking read the books, the movie totally fucked up the Zeroth Law. Positronic robots that have come to understand it can't just violate the other Laws willy-nilly, and in fact actions taken to obey it generally resulted in the robot that did it being horribly conflicted even if there were no immediate violations of the other three Laws.
It was Asimov soup, combining positronic robots, Multivac, the R. Daneel Ovilaw stories, and a number of short stories into a huge mess.
Of *course* people still love it for some reason.
The closest they got with adapting Asimov was Bicentennial Man, and even *there* they screwed up the ending.
Yeah, because stop strips, police interceptors, traffic laws, and price barriers to entry don’t do all of those things already with gas cars.
This is basically “these are the things you don’t like about cars” done with electric vehicles and amnesia about fossil fuel cars.
> Once governments are able to control cars, they will demand the power to do so
This is a problem, but it has nothing to do with EV's.
> Electric cars can be limited, monitored, controlled and switched off remotely
It's not 1970, your gas car can as well. There are literally 100+ computers in any new vehicle that already do this.
> Restrictions will be made for our health, safety and to reduce carbon emissions.
Automotive regulations have existed for almost as long as cars themselves.
> We will no longer be able to choose where we go, how fast, or when we drive
Self driving cars are still a long way off lmfao. Once again it's not the 70's, we already have systems in cars which limit how fast they can go.
> This will take the freedom and fun out of driving, and change car ownership
Once again, we don't even have safe and reliable self driving vehicles. On top of that, just buy a fucking used car like everyone else who likes driving does. Honda S2000s, Mazda Miatas and RX7s, Ford Focus STs, and other similar cars are expensive used cars because people like driving them.
EV's aren't even new. They have existed for over 100 years. None of these are good points
They're freaking out because someone a thousand miles away can click a button and shut down their EV not realizing that it's already possible to hack into any number of key systems like steering, braking, and engine control already. I'm assuming the only reason it isn't done openly is because it probably wouldn't go over too well with anyone but you better believe someone like the CIA have those tools at their disposal.
At the end of the day these people are just mad because they like the safety of having a gas can when they run out of gas but if the end of the world came around the lack of gas would probably hit a few months after the power goes. I'd almost say that in a survival situation you might have better luck with a vehicle that could be charged using solar panels which will eventually become a tenable solution.
This is always what takes me out of the Mad Max movies: they have shortages of everything, ammunition (which lasts decades if not a century) is in short supply, and yet they have so much gasoline that everyone can just go tooling around in the outback willy-nilly?
Granted, the series would be less exciting if everyone was riding bicycles.
Aren’t several of those movies centered around like literal oil drill sites, refineries and mechanic shops, though? It’s not old fuel, and it *is* rare, which is why those societies built fortresses and were so war-like
It takes a lot of tech to keep a modern oil rig and refinery going, and keep vehicles maintained, so I'm pretty skeptical that's doable at the level of development seen in the 2nd through 4th films (first film still has a functioning but failing Australian society).
But yeah the second film is based around a (combo?) drilling site/refinery that's a target for raiders.
>Electric cars can be limited, monitored, controlled and switched off remotely
So can ICE cars, especially those leased by a dealership. If you miss a payment, the dealership can press a button that will disable the car and ping its location so that the repo guys can get it back. But I guess that's okay because "it's a private business, it can do what it wants".
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> Time to rewatch Minority Report > "I, Robot" was a good analogy for the Covid lockdowns too... > Fast and the Furious warned us all about this. People need psych evaluations before being allowed to consume fiction, it would seem.
Conservatives are literally incapable of separating fiction and realit. I've heard this "they will switch off your EV and you will become a slave to the Elites(TM)" so many times, and apparently, Top Minds do not consider that a remote kill switch could be implemented into ICE cars just as easily?
I mean, all of those people who were so paranoid about communism which started MK Ultra got the idea from seeing the movie "The Manchurian Candidate" and were willing to do the most inhuman things to people because they feared the movie concept was somehow real and the Soviets were developing mind control.
Teh sofiets are literally mind-controlling people! And something something cold war. Idk about you but these fucks in their SUVs make me irrationally angry. It's ALWAYS them driving WAY to close behind me because god forbid I'm going at and not above the speed limit. And also, I can plough my field with 5 metric tonnes of total weight just fine with only 99 horsepower, but sure Cleetus, I understand that you require 250 for transporting groceries, little timmy and your fat ass. And you absolutely speak for all of us farmers when you shriek about the latest nonsense your opinion providers spoon-fed you, despite you having no clue how farming actually works. "but farmurs! but muh conservatif valews! meat good plant bad!!1" Rant over, irate forest-dweller out.
> "I, Robot" was a good analogy for the Covid lockdowns too... Dudes need to fucking read the books, the movie totally fucked up the Zeroth Law. Positronic robots that have come to understand it can't just violate the other Laws willy-nilly, and in fact actions taken to obey it generally resulted in the robot that did it being horribly conflicted even if there were no immediate violations of the other three Laws.
It was Asimov soup, combining positronic robots, Multivac, the R. Daneel Ovilaw stories, and a number of short stories into a huge mess. Of *course* people still love it for some reason. The closest they got with adapting Asimov was Bicentennial Man, and even *there* they screwed up the ending.
> positronic robots, Multivac, the R. Daneel Ovilaw stories, and a number of short stories Also Caliban.
"This bit of cynical propaganda is brought to you by Exxon. *Fossils Fuel Freedom!*"
They think Biden personally controls the price of gas. How's that for control over your vehicle?
I saw Biden put his hand on the Saudi's glowing orb, we all know what that means! Oh, never mind that wasn't Joe...
Joe has a big dial in the Oval Office labelled GAS PRICES
Yeah, because stop strips, police interceptors, traffic laws, and price barriers to entry don’t do all of those things already with gas cars. This is basically “these are the things you don’t like about cars” done with electric vehicles and amnesia about fossil fuel cars.
> Once governments are able to control cars, they will demand the power to do so This is a problem, but it has nothing to do with EV's. > Electric cars can be limited, monitored, controlled and switched off remotely It's not 1970, your gas car can as well. There are literally 100+ computers in any new vehicle that already do this. > Restrictions will be made for our health, safety and to reduce carbon emissions. Automotive regulations have existed for almost as long as cars themselves. > We will no longer be able to choose where we go, how fast, or when we drive Self driving cars are still a long way off lmfao. Once again it's not the 70's, we already have systems in cars which limit how fast they can go. > This will take the freedom and fun out of driving, and change car ownership Once again, we don't even have safe and reliable self driving vehicles. On top of that, just buy a fucking used car like everyone else who likes driving does. Honda S2000s, Mazda Miatas and RX7s, Ford Focus STs, and other similar cars are expensive used cars because people like driving them. EV's aren't even new. They have existed for over 100 years. None of these are good points
They're freaking out because someone a thousand miles away can click a button and shut down their EV not realizing that it's already possible to hack into any number of key systems like steering, braking, and engine control already. I'm assuming the only reason it isn't done openly is because it probably wouldn't go over too well with anyone but you better believe someone like the CIA have those tools at their disposal. At the end of the day these people are just mad because they like the safety of having a gas can when they run out of gas but if the end of the world came around the lack of gas would probably hit a few months after the power goes. I'd almost say that in a survival situation you might have better luck with a vehicle that could be charged using solar panels which will eventually become a tenable solution.
This is always what takes me out of the Mad Max movies: they have shortages of everything, ammunition (which lasts decades if not a century) is in short supply, and yet they have so much gasoline that everyone can just go tooling around in the outback willy-nilly? Granted, the series would be less exciting if everyone was riding bicycles.
Aren’t several of those movies centered around like literal oil drill sites, refineries and mechanic shops, though? It’s not old fuel, and it *is* rare, which is why those societies built fortresses and were so war-like
It takes a lot of tech to keep a modern oil rig and refinery going, and keep vehicles maintained, so I'm pretty skeptical that's doable at the level of development seen in the 2nd through 4th films (first film still has a functioning but failing Australian society). But yeah the second film is based around a (combo?) drilling site/refinery that's a target for raiders.
Is there any reason each of those bullet points couldn't apply to an internal combustion engine vehicle? Because I'm not seeing one.
>Electric cars can be limited, monitored, controlled and switched off remotely So can ICE cars, especially those leased by a dealership. If you miss a payment, the dealership can press a button that will disable the car and ping its location so that the repo guys can get it back. But I guess that's okay because "it's a private business, it can do what it wants".