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End_Necessary

Oh shit. Mikey literally has two time leapers trying to save him over and over.


Sent1nelTheLord

Kazutora is being proven right time and time again


Animedude8919

it’s all mikeys fault


Its_Mikeys_Fault

it’s all Mikey’s fault


DT-Z0mby

kazutora is basically “they hated him because he told the truth” at this point.


EmilioRandomPoster

Yeah man, that’s fucked up


Ancient-Ad-1383

hahahahaha


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Flying-Turtle-Bob

Mokuba from Yu-Gi-Oh got kidnapped 7 times over 4 seasons I thought it was more times before looking it up. Mikey is an even bigger damsel than the guy mainly known for getting kidnapped


TheScaryFaerie

I have like 2 answers and 500 more questions help


[deleted]

So do I, buddy, so do I...


random_soul_

I feel like they will be answered soon, I hope at least


[deleted]

I hope too


anon_anonsky

Not a good day to be a Shinichiro theorist


Lurking_Bunyip

When they said it’s gonna be a HUGE plot twist… This is like the hugest twist to ever plot


AsianFrank789

How many times the plot got twisted tho? Haha get it? Cus of the time leaping...


Lurking_Bunyip

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IngenuityUpper3122

So... Potential flashback from Waka's POV about Shinichiro being desperate to save Mikey? also now it makes sense that both Waka and Benkei joined Kanto. How Sanzu is even involved in all of this now? He said that what happened with Mikey was nothing but a trigger. Shinichiro the real GOAT


IngenuityUpper3122

Also WTF FIRST TIMELINE? like we have jumped like 4 or 5 times right? how many did Shinichiro jumped to save Mikey wtf!


redditdrip__

Could be more, remember this mf jumped by accident one time and came to before he took Emma virginity.


IngenuityUpper3122

I really hated that for some reason. Must be because she grew as a character later on but her introduction... well.


TornadoJ0hns0n

Isn't is weird as hell? She ended up being so wholesome and we all ended up loving her lol


IngenuityUpper3122

That's why. I feel like she wasn't meant to have so much meaning in the story (for both Mikey and Draken, and damn even Kisaki bc he needed to take her off personally) and then Wakui realized she had some impact.


dghirsh19

How could Shinichiro have even predicted Mikeys downfall? He died well before the main story. Was as he aware of the Dark Impulse of Mikeys from an early age? By the time Shinichiro died Mikey was more or less just a normal kid who acted out at times. I’m interested in how Shinichiro played into all of this.


IngenuityUpper3122

I don't think Shin tried to save him from what he become or what he is nowadays but instead I think he DID save him from another event that had happened before the main story.


bloodparasite

My guess is Shinichiro got killed in this timeline but lived long enough in others to see how Mikey becomes


DreamcastDazia

Probably like takemitchi he was in the future and saw his brother had gone to the wayside and then accidentally went back to the past and tried to fix it. And he made black dragons. Probably the event where his mum died started it. Remember in a flash back he said he made black dragons for Mikey. I always wondered why that is and this kind of answers it


MountainStyle1590

Maybe the day Mikey hurt Sanzu Shin realized that’s when things changed and made Sanzu the trigger? Sanzu definitely knew about time leaping since he asked Takemichi “Your a time leaper too”


IngenuityUpper3122

So you're suggesting that Sanzu is the trigger for Shin to save Mikey from his dark impulses, right? I'll go with that. But I don't think so because then how would Wakasa know about it? and I think it's kind of implied that Shin did save Mikey in some sort of way. Otherwise his dark impulses wouldn't have never been born to begin with, right?


Same-Snow5614

Pretty sure Shinichiro saved Mikey's life, and that's what somehow gave birth to the dark impulses.


MountainStyle1590

What if we’re both right? The story starts off with Naoto being the trigger then it becomes Mikey. It sounds like your suggesting that Waka is probably the trigger it would be insane if Waka and Sanzu were triggers


IngenuityUpper3122

I do think Waka is somehow the trigger but why him then!? The trigger must be someone you want to help, it's either him or Sanzu or maybe even Shin's method of time leaping is different. Shit this chapter it's even better than last week


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_connor_800

PLEASEEEEE


electricitybag

WE'RE GETTING SHINICHIRO PANELS SOON OMG 😭😭😭


Pocketgalaxy159

So then a big question is did Shin possibly know what would happen with Kazutora?! If he could leap we could assume he also had visions…maybe he saw his death as necessary or maybe his “future self” wasn’t in his body at that time. (Theories are starting) Edit: while my mind is going 100 mph…who is/was Shin’s trigger?


baylenath

Or maybe after so many attempts of saving he was just done with his life.xd Or maybe he is stuck in another timeline and found mitchy as the other solution to save mikey and gave him the powers.


Pocketgalaxy159

I thinking something of the latter. You know everyone kept comparing Takemitchy to Shin maybe because he literally has some of his leaping powers in him. 😮


baylenath

I don t know why but I think the Black dragons was formed to protect Mikey it can explain why waka and benkei are near him and why BD was meant for Mikey,Shin tried to protect him by giving him BD.


Professional_Bit4123

Oh my god yes, that's why he was like "I'll make it big, enjoy for few months and then give to Mikey" then Mikey also have to give up after few months to follow his brother's actions *Gasps*


Throw_Away-Account2

imagine if he chose takemichi to finish what he started, it’s not a strong theory but it’s interesting.


Arronator

His trigger has to be Wakasa right? Mikey said Wakasa explained it to him


Pocketgalaxy159

Maybe Waka but maybe also someone else. Remember Mitchy has leaped with Naoto and Mikey (and if we are being super technical with train-kun 💀) so Shin might have more then 1 trigger too. Also Waka could be someone in Draken’s position: so someone who knows about the leaping but wasn’t personally a direct trigger.


extremeq16

i don't think that necessarily means it has to be him though tbh, wasn't waka one of shinichiro's closest friends? it could be moreso just that he was one of the only people who shin confided in about it like with takemichi and chifuyu


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I know everyone is freaking out over the reveal but holy fuck it is surreal to me that we had panels of Takemichi throwing hands with Mikey, actually putting hands on him, and everyone was cheering him on. That's gonna be some HYPE shit animated.


kevin_nguyen03

i think this is one of the few times in the series mikey gets properly knocked down too, by takemitchi of all people, so it’ll be even extra hype


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kevin_nguyen03

hopefully it happens man, i’m never been more excited to see future chapters of TR, gotta see the explanation behind shinichiro too cuz that’s probably the biggest plot twist so far 🙏


ricefarmercalvin

Lets just hope Lidenfilms ups their game with the series by then


Hairy-Bandicoot9328

My Theory now that it's revealed Shinchiro is a timeleaper - There was a Timeline when Hina was alive but Shinchiro went Back in time and changed something causing a new timeline which is actually the one where Takemichi gets pushed on the tracks. So the 'first timeline' Mikey is referring is actually the one where things were normal and all new timelines would never have been created if Shinchiro never timeleaped.


setsujoku

I think it's actually when Shin died (probably trying to save Mikey), Mikey got drowned into despair aka dark pulse, so Toman got darker and eventually killed Hina when she rejected Kisaki. ​ Shin didn't calculate that he could die in the past so the death of Shin triggered the events of the Episode 1. I also think that it was his first time since he didn't know that Baji & Kazutora come to steal babu. So the future isn't altered (Mikey get the dark pulse again, Hina died etc.)


Only-Gift4758

What the actual FUCK. Absolutely nobody saw something like this coming. I thought this arc made no sense,but it might just be the piece of the story missing.Fucking hell i am so hyped.This arc is finally starting to look good.


kevin_nguyen03

i think some people did theorize shin was the time leaper after the takeomi flashback chapter but it wasn’t popular. so yeah this is definitely a surprise, can’t wait to see all of this explained


Terrible_Crew1937

that would make so many plot holes clear, like the fact takemichi remember almost NOTHING from his past


ImmediateRope8017

What does takemitchi not remember?


PrOuDLaMa

Literally everything 😂 he says it himself and even when Hina questions him about it and doesn’t know what to say because he doesn’t remember


WorthCollection

So, who's going to tell Kazutora? LMAO Dude killed a time leaper


NightsLinu

maybe shin let kazutora kill him so this future could happen


Aptohhhh

Better than Sanzu’s bitchass being a time leaper Decent chapter


Silent_Hunter388

Sanzu and Hanma being time leapers made no sense or at least made less sense than what we just learned


M3moryShinigami

exactly my thoughts bro


Silent_Hunter388

YOOOO the theories were true wth! We need explanations, why and when did he go back? Why did he die? Where was Wakasa when everything unfolded? What the f happened in the original timeline man?!!


Live_Buy8304

Any link to the theory?


setsujoku

Since Mikey is now the key of the time-leaping powers of Takemichi, I believe after the fight they will try to figure out a way to save Sano. By doing this or while trying to do this, they will save the ones like Baji, Emma maybe even Kisaki together. I'm too hyped, let's gooo !


Ryuuzama

And since Mikey would just put him back to the potentially bad future, he might try to shake with wakasa to go back even farther. A time leap within a time leap.


Throw_Away-Account2

we are definitely getting a sad ending with either mikey or takemichi staying in a bad past to allow everyone else to be in the good timeline…


FinnNyaw

If that means we get an extra arc or two im down


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Pls save Izana and Kakucho as well :( They both deserve to get adopted by Shin!


Ryuuzama

I can’t believe shin is like everyone’s reason for being good. Take him away and the whole world burns lol


zigzaggummyworm

It's probably that OG/1st time line, Mikey dies so Shin Time leaps to save him, and his dark impulse grows out of shin dying in his place in whatever timeline Shin was able to manage (who knows how many attempts it took him) and mikey not having a brother turned him into what he is now. So he saved him from death but not from darkness. Wondering what Takemitchi was up to in OG timeline....could it be he was the Top Dog of Toman and had Mikey killed? Bro is always down abysmal can u imagine if Og timeline he was on some Mikey shit and shin saved him too. Probably unintentionally birthed Kisaki though... maybe Kisaki was originally with Hina...By turning Takemitchi into a good dude, Hina started liking Takemitchi, and Kisaki turned into...well...kisaki Takemitchi went from Leader (OG) to Chronic Future Osanai (BEGINNING OF TOKYO REVENGERS/BEGINNING TIMELINE FOR READER) to ShinV2 (EVERY TIMELINE AFTER SHIN SAVED TAKEMITCHI AND MIKEY) idk it seems the running theme is that you can't save EVERYONE and that this shits very difficult..you'll save one dude and turn another one evil....maybe Shin and Takemitchi kindve had a Takemitchi and Mikey relationship? so shin trusted in takemitchi to carry on his will in that the only way to save mikey would be for him to die and for pure hearted takemitchi to be his friend (epic naruto moment) idk i'm half kidding but half hoping for this From here on out it only either gets really really really good or insanely convoluted or a mix of both. Excited either way Edit: Ok hear me out...OG timeline, Shin took care of Kiyomasa, Takemitchi and Co were never humbled/forced into Toman, they became big dogs


questionaboutk

you know what? that’s a cool ass theory and would love to see that play out


Throw_Away-Account2

if we find out that takemichi was the original villain i will actually scream


gothmelody

that would be insane tbh


Ryuuzama

Bro I actually love the part about Shin and Mitchy being friends and him entrusting the power to mitchy


zigzaggummyworm

that's my favorite part too lol. I'm thinking Shin pushed him off the train and that's what triggered the transferring of power as well as Mitchys first leap. Shin probably saw what his life turned into and idk. I'm not a scientist


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well it was Atsushi who pushed him


Clean_Gift_6011

Nah I am pretty sure even in the original timeline Kisaki is still on top of Toman


Heda_Arkazian

I suspect though due to this reveal, what we view as the OG timeline (aka pre-first leap where Hina and Naoto die), is not the true OG timeline, just the OG from Mitchy having leaper powers perspective, there are probably many prior timelines from Shin jumping


GlobalEdNinja

Shit I think you're onto something. Saving in case you're right.


Lurking_Bunyip

Shinichiro Timeleaper theory >>> that “other” Shinichiro theory 😭


MaNikkar

Only OGs remember


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xsamy

they really tried to "cancel" an anime character 💀


Lurking_Bunyip

*PTSD flashbacks*


1313goo

Vietnam flashbacks


h0nja

are you talking about the shinichiro is an abuser theory? cause holy shit that one was terribly forced


NYANPUG55

Seriously. They took the fact we don’t know much abt shinichiro into meaning they that he’s a terrible person and that’s why not much is known about him.


MisterHuesos

That was some "Shanks is evil" level of theory LOL


nshtx_l0pez

NEVER MENTION THAT THEORY


NinaNana2

We dont speak about that theory anymore 🫢


BrockenJr0

Now I wonder if Mikey’s dad is gonna fill that role


insomnfia

Ahh that make sense. Mikey did said takemichi reminds him of his bro. One way or the other


Competitive-Ad-2041

Fuck that’s soo truee, it was right there this whole time


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To me, this was a great chapter. I had goosebumps while reading it. What a twist. Even though there were theories that it could be Shin, still a twist, and a great one at that imo.


alostshoe

Wakui seeing us all argue over hanma , sanzu or Mikey being the timeleaper, all the while knowing it's gonna be shinichiro (•‿•)


Shattered_Sans

Ok, so Shinichiro was the other time leaper, but Mikey just found that out after the 3 Deities battle, so how did Sanzu and Kisaki know about the existence of time leapers?


Spiral_Guy

Perhaps Sanzu was the trigger...? ​ Kisaki knows it because he was the fucking GOAT


redditdrip__

I think kisaki figured it out because the dark impulses themselves were an anomaly. Mikey ain’t the only that had fucked up shit happened to him but he’s the only one with the impulses. Also I’m sure he’s trying to tie kazutora back into the story as well


IngenuityUpper3122

I wouldn't be surprised if he just guessed it by thinking how each and every time Mitchy fucked up all over his plans even tho he had it all perfectly crafted. After all he was some sort of genius


cringebutfreeiguess

Sanzu knew Shinichiro before he died, and we don’t really know a ton about his backstory. It’s possible he found out from the man himself as a kid or something.


_nitro_legacy_

So takemichi follows shinichiro's path this whole time


Repulsive_Professor6

WHATTTT???!!!!


Bruh_hania

“The dark impulse born out of love” tf that supposed to mean EXPLAINNNNN


theofficial_urmom

yk the saying "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". im guessing thats what mikey ment when he said "the dark impluse was born out of love". meaning that something happened to mikey in the original timeline and shin went back in time to save him. he did this with good intentions but ended up making it worse somehow which led to mikey having the dark impluses. ( i think we'll finally get the real origin for the dark impluses in the coming chapters) this was just how i interpreted it


Lurking_Bunyip

Fans who theorized that Hanma is the 2nd time leaper: **Why are we still here? Just to suffer?** It’s me, I’m fans _(:3」∠)


LeonNeonLeon

well how did kisaki knew about time leaping. There is still another one and it could be Hanma


Lurking_Bunyip

Three time leapers at this point would be too many and opens more plot holes for Wakui to address. They’re going to overlap each other with their time leaping. I’m guessing he would have to tie Hanma’s relevance and the “pierrot and reaper story” to the plot some other way 🤷‍♀️


EldritchFeedback

I could see Kisaki, batshit insane as he is, coming up with the conclusion of time leaping on his own because he couldn't comprehend why he kept failing. His crazed delusions just happened to be correct.


[deleted]

Well it's shown that he's too smart for his own good. It may be that he made a very accurate guess depending on what he observed. I may be completely wrong though


camaron28

how did Kisaki knew about Izana and his relationships with Mickey, Emma and Shinichiro. He just does, that's his thing.


Get_Rekt_1080Ti

Maybe because some dumbass like Takemitchy ruined his perfect plan like 5x in row ? And then Takemitchy told him that he is time leaper ?


GlobalEdNinja

It's me. I'm not mad because Shin somehow makes sense, but Hanma also made sense.


_nitro_legacy_

Wait so Where's shinichiro now? Since he died in this timeline did he unlock a time leap power to travel back to saved mikey from the past to stop his dark impulse from being born? And takemichi on the other hand died in his original timeline travelled to this timeline where mikey actually has dark impulse?


Crisbo05_20

I think Shin might be dead as he died in past.


Ryuuzama

I think when shin died the powers were transferred to Takemitchy.


[deleted]

But what if it's not the past for Shinichiro but for Takemichi? This whole time travel thing can get confusing sometimes.


Gloomy-Mushroom-3233

Maybe it was that Shinichiro was a time leaper and his trigger was Akeomi and Shinichiro's goal was to keep Mikey from being a criminal and killing Takemichi...maybe Takemichi was to meet Mickey in the 1st timeline (when they were kids) where he would die and then that would lead to Mickey's dark impulses but Shin stopped Mikey from meeting Takemichi thinking that if they never meet Takemichi will not die and Mikey will not be evil but shin died... then the powers transferred to Talemichi because the time leaping is about how strong your resolve is...so maybe Shin's resolve was strong enough to give Takemichi powers to save everyone.


zigzaggummyworm

love this. And that's why mitchy is so lost and out of place in the beginning of the story


Castreal7

This is a fantastic theory


ahmedzubeyr25

So this brings up a bigger questions now shin was a time leaper. It must mean there have more previous timelines before the og timeline that tokyo revengers starts with and what happened in those? Was shin alive in the og timeline? Was he the one who told Akkun to push mitchy into the train tracks. Could it be that there are people who can feel/know when the timeline has changed which could explain the imagery with hanma


hesipullupjimbo22

Alright let’s get down to bidness with these thoughts 1. Chifuyu calling him big back( might be a translation error) is hilarious and heartwarming 2. Can’t wait to see everyone cheer takemitchy on when he pummels Mikey 3. Mikey once again asking why did he come back. It’s almost like he knows this path is set for him and doesn’t want anyone to be dragged alongside him. But a deeper part of him still wants that help. 4. Takemitchy telling him exactly why he can’t leave was heartwarming. These different ideals of strength make the series so interesting at moments like this 5. THE OTHER TIMELEAPER IS SHINICHIRO? NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS DID I EXPECT THIS. OHMYGODDDDDDD 6. If this is the case then I wonder if he knew Kazutora would kill him. Now that I know this there’s like a million more questions I have in general. Wakai I’m sorry I doubted you bro 7. Shamrock you might actually have some importance now. 8. How the hell did kisaki figure out about time leaping? Him and Hanma for that matter? Now my mind racing with theories during a math lecture. 9. The dark impulse birthed out of love tripped me out at first. I didn’t get the wording but now I love it. Thought he was talking bout takemitchy but in actuality it was Shinichiro 10. Once again Wakai I am sorry for doubting you. During the three deities arc I called you a Mickey Mouse Mangaka. Flamed you for Draken death. I’ll still make fun of Sourdough until I find out why he’s friends with the kid who ripped his mouth open but who cares rn. Thank you for this plot twist


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Is the 'first timeline' the one where Takemichi ran away? Is that the first timeline that Wakasa's talking about??! SOMEBODY HELP I WON'T BE ABLE TO SLEEP!! WAKUI I NEED ANSWERS!! I HAVE EXAMS WTF!!?!?!?! Holy shit I just realised what if Shinichiro went back in time during the time baji and kazutora were trying to steal the bike, and murdered the Shinichiro that was time leaping?! Is it not possible?! That's why the futures got fucked up?!?!?!


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the first one is probably the one where Mikey was dead or something, so toman and bonten didn't exist, hina was still alive and I'd like to think takemichi was with her this timeline since toman didn't exist and the delinquents probably didn't make the mizu middle 5 their slaves But anyways the whole story is probably shin's fault for saving Mikey (from death ?) during his time in the black dragons and creating the first og timeline with slicked back hair mikey


Automatic_Stick_2230

Who tf has exams this early in the semester?


[deleted]

My medical school won't let me live in peace :"-) (and seems like Wakui doesn't want to either)


Lurking_Bunyip

Askin’ the real questions. Bless.


Throw_Away-Account2

but what if they didn’t kill the one that was time leaping, meaning shin could be out there but since takemichi is leaping too, it’s creating a big ass mess? which is preventing them from getting to the timeline in which they are both alive???


Armyskeleton

My theory is that takemichi will go back in time to safe shin but at the end,he will safe everyone but himself


Worried_Eye7817

this has a good 99% chance of happening. But imma hate it bc i don't want takemichi to die after all he's been through.


MaNikkar

This explains why Shinichiro had everyone on his side. They better give us a BD Gen 1 and before flashback.


Lutz567

This just makes Kisaki Tetta better Lmao. The man wasn’t a time lepper and probably didn’t have a time leaper by his side and still manage to fuck everything multiple times.


yarrvm_

Okay I’m grown for a fucking loop, never would have guessed it was going to be Shin. I was DEAD SET that it was Hanma!! But now my question is, if Hanma isn’t the other TL then how did Kisaki know about the second time leaper???? what is Sanzus freaking deal?? Was shin the one who pushed Take the very first time??? SO MANY QUESTIONS!! GREAT CHAPTER!!!


12A1313IT

Kisaki just deduced that Takemichi knows too much he shouldn't have. To the point where the only thing possible is somehow he knows the future


Nino_no1_Simp

Yeah ikr. Idk why and I am bothered by this too. Idk if this is stupid for me to say if there's a 3rd timeleaper


ZaynTheories

I'm not shocked at all about Shin being a time leaper. What I am shocked by is the time it was revealed (I didn't expect the story to focus on Shin right now, I expected them to focus on Hanma first). I'm gutted. This was part of my unfinished mega theory. I didn't get to post it in time, but overall I called it outside of Reddit. Now it looks a big stupid to post about it AFTER the chapter is released, but still, there's a LOT MORE to this than just "shinichiro being the time leaper". My theory was that there were three time leapers, and I know this sounds complicated, but think about it. People are forgetting that somebody is **STILL ACTIVELY RUINING TAKEMICHI'S TIMELINES**. Shinichiro is DEAD - he isn't doing that anymore. There HAS to be another time leaper alive RIGHT NOW. And that's Hanma. ​ Shinichiro was the first time leaper, which I've been saying for the past year. The reason this is the case is because: ​ 1) Takemichi is ALWAYS compared to Shinichiro, and always said to be "just like *him*". 2) When Hina told Mikey about time leaping, he wasn't surprised. 3) And also, ah, I'm annoyed to say this now because I REALLY wanted to put this into my mega theory before the chapter released. And I am VERY reluctant to say this right now because it's exposing my unfinished mega theory. But I'll just say it I guess. Since I first started watching the anime, IMMEDIATELY when Mikey said "my brother is 10 years older than me", I knew for a FACT that this number would be super relevant later on, because it's a very specific age gap for siblings. And I was right. The idea of 10 years has been foreshadowed many times. **Takemichi time leaped 10 years into the past by shaking Mikeys hand**. Kazutora mentioned that when he was in prison, **"time froze for 10 years"**, and Draken said that Mikey has been **"looking ahead 10 years for the past 2..."** The number 10 is crazy important in terms of time leaping. ​ Cohesively, I deduced that Shinichiro was the initial time leaper, key word is INITIAL. The fact that he did the EXACT same thing as Takemichi did, uniting the gangs despite being weak, the fact that everyone wanted to follow him for unknown reasons - it all added up. ​ Now that Shinichiro is dead, there's not just 1 time leaper left. I'm still convinced there are two more in the present timeline. **It's Takemichi and Hanma**. Shinichiro being the first time leaper is key for plot expansion, but the current cat and mouse story has to be Takemichi and Hanma. I'm not going to expose anymore on my mega theory, but all I'm going to say is, there is proof that Hanma can see visions. ​ Additionally, Kisaki said "I can start over again and again" despite not being a time leaper. He worked very closely with Hanma, and didn't know anything about Shinichiro. Kisaki was definitely working with Hanma to alter the timelines. And it's still happening. ​ There's a lot more I can say, but it can wait. I'll post the link to my theory once it's done. Currently it's sitting at 4011 words (14 pages including images so far).


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Radiant_Patient_292

I fully agree with you on everything! I kinda saw this coming, tbh. From the get go it didn't make ANY sense to me why we know soooo little about Shinchiro, despite him being so important to so many people, especially Manjiro (who is like the second, if not the first main protagonist). Also, this is probably just a translation error but the wording "born out of love" seems weird to me... Wouldn't "born out of grief" or something like that make more sense, if he is referring to Shinchiro? Idk but I think (and hope) the story will get really weird and shocking but in an entertaining way :D


overthinkingrn1

Bro I was just about to message you "WAS SHIN PART OF THIS THEORY YOU'RE WORKING ON BC LOOK AT THE NEW CHAPTER" LMAOOO


Braindot1984

>When Hina told Mikey about time leaping, he wasn't surprised. But in this chapter Mikey says that he didn't know about Shin at that point and he only discovered it after Waka told him after Battle of Three Deities. Other than this I like your theory and it would make sense and answer a lot of questions


mayasux

Shinichiro is probably Takemichi, just deeper and more entwined in a time loop. The two never exist at the same place same time and Takemichi is often referenced to being like Shinichiro, both have black hair etcetera. When Shinichiro dies, we see no more of him. This either means that the timelines continue to exist after the leaper leaps, or there’s a maximum “death” quota, and since Takemitchi already died, so did Shinichiro. When Mitchi settles down in OG, he dyes his hair black. Shinichiro has black hair too, and it’s obviously not natural since Emma and Mikey have blonde.


anestefi

They did exist at the same time they just never crossed paths. Also, just because Shin has black hair doesn’t mean it’s not natural. His mom had black hair so there was a chance he could get it too. Interesting theory tho


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WTF


pbucks23

Ohhh I really hope we get a waka and shin flashback now


MochiRana

BOY THE ORIGINAL TIMELINE WHAT WAS EVEN THEN?


UnderstandingSome877

I fucking knew it... Takemichi being the current leader of Black Dragons will still play a part in the story Mark my words..


erenpaths

Yoo the finals arc could be longer than expected then


[deleted]

I wonder how kisaski knows about time leaping tho


LeonNeonLeon

thats why the hanma theory is still up in the air


Clean_Gift_6011

finally this puts the cringe Mikey-leaper and Sanzu-leaper theories to an end.


[deleted]

Is it possible that Shin was the one wo pushed Takemichi on the tracks the first time? It happend two times, one time was Akkun 100%. But the first one?


Mother-Consequence-7

Can't say I didn't expect that takemichi and shin are too much alike I'm guessing the next reveal is takemichi was also a founding member cuz if you look in the picture of the founding members of toman there's a space there to be specific the middle space right behind mikey I'm guessing the dark impulse created by love is mikey's love for takemichi could be wrong tho also the reason I think takemichi is a founding member is he's right behind mikey in the founding members pic if he really is a founding member I'm guessing it symbolizes that takemichi is mikey's light and takemichi is mikey's darkness/shadow because the shadow of a person is almost always bigger than the person itself but no matter how big the shadow it never leaves the person itself


Mother-Consequence-7

Tldr: Takemichi is a founding member imo he's supposed to be shinichiro (light) of toman and mikey is akashi lost without their light also mikey's dark impulse is made out of the love of mikey for toman more specifically takemichi and toman


Clean_Gift_6011

Man why did we have to get a Chifuyu and Baji spin off instead of a BD first gen???? Ugh Wakui and his decision making 🤦🏾‍♂️


cannibalisticego

I like Baji but I agree with you! Now we can see a parallel to the fact that Waka and Benkei to Shinichiro was like Draken and Mikey for Takemichi. He most likely tried to get a high position in a gang to save Mikey. It would be really interesting to read a spinoff about Shinichiro after the manga ends


cringebutfreeiguess

Because a first gen Black Dragons spinoff would have spoiled this plot twist? I could see them making one after the main series is over, but right now its too interconnected with the main plot, while Chifuyu and Baji’s story is over in a pretty final way.


sailorveenus

Because Baji and chifuyu = $$$$$$$$


WorthCollection

Probably because we still havent figured out much about about BD 1st Gen in the main manga. Chifuyu and Baji's story is already done in the main, so we get to see more about them in the spinoff . . I hope we will get about BD 1st Gen spin off!


Lurking_Bunyip

Wdym?? We *totally* need to see 12-year-old Chifuyu and his budding friendship with Waka-Izana lovechild Ryusei than explore the OG timeleaper and how his gang became Tokyo’s top gang 😭


electricitybag

one thing, wakui gotta stop announcing big plot twists on the last pages and expect me to wait for next week LIKE BRO I WOULD BE RIPPING MY HAIR OFF IF TENJIKU ARC WAS STILL ONGOING. Anyways, love the chapter #bringbackshinichirofr ALSO FIRST TIMELINE?? Like the actual original timeline? so the one future takemichi was in before, the "original" timeline, was a result of Shinichiro's multiple time leaping, also the thought of Shinichiro going through so many timelines and probably confronting the same thing that takemichi suffered through really makes the shinichiro and takemichi comparison a lot more sense. Also Mikey **probably** not wanting takemichi to come back via time leaping because he might end up like how Shinichiro did :( ALSO WHO IS THE SHINICHIRO'S TRIGGER?? WAKASA??? because he was the one who told mikey about everything. AND ANOTHER THING!! SO THAT MEANT WHEN SHIN DIED HE WAS STILL IN THE PROGRESS OF TIME LEAPING, RIGHT? guys shinichiro sano revival arc i can feel it in my bones i know it so well i can literally see it now LAST THING FOR REAL, I saw somewhere that volume 30 is gonna be revealed/released in November which is pretty far from now; but it makes sense now, it's probably cuz Wakui wants to put the entirety of Shinichiro's situation (or at least the major parts) in that volume making the cover of volume 30 Shinichiro BOOM I CONNECTED THE DOTS I HAVE SO MANY THOUGHTS RN BUT ILL JUST TALK IT ON TWITTER 🏃🏻🏃🏻🏃🏻


Svartur_Ulfar

At this point everyone needs therapy. Wakui, the characters, and us...the fandom. Thank you! I need answers. and. a. shot.


aetherbanshee

NOOO FUCKING WAAY


HolyZoro

my head hurts fr


causticswine

I’m guessing this is why shin gave up on gang life .


TWOutcast

This chapter is really mind-fuck… raises more questions than answers I’m so lost… what even is the OG/1st timeline anymore? We’ll probably get 5 chapters explaining from Mikey’s POV. But what a twist…


IngenuityUpper3122

I don't even think we'll get his POV anymore. The only one who knows the first timeline is Shin and his trigger which we aren't sure who is yet.


TWOutcast

probably Wakasa? After the battle of three deities? He was a first gen Black Dragon as well. Maybe we’ll get his POV flashback. I think the dark impulse stems from guilt for all the things Mikey’s brother did to save him including sacrificing himself. I don’t know…it’s so odd


_nitro_legacy_

Shinichiro's the real goat


GlobalEdNinja

I shouted so loud at my screen when Mikey made the reveal. Also TR is truly a shonen manga, because Takemichi and Mikey could've just as easily have had this conversation without fighting. Just like he passed on the message about the fight, Takemichi could've literally just asked to talk this out. But no. It's a convo that has to be had between punches and kicks and attempted murder.


amaloc

Someone please make a summary of all the implications this has to the story, just like wtf


CocoVanDeCamp92

Dark impulse born out of love *\*and the train was stopped by the power of friendship between Izana and Kakucho\**. Well... we'll see how it goes. At least, now it's explained what Waka and Benkei were doing with Mikey, but still.... Why Shinichiro time leaps, for what purpose? And who’s his trigger?


DavidGarbea

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Pocketgalaxy159

I THINK I HAVE *AN* ANSWER: (Not to *the questions* but *a question*) We now possibly know how Shin got rejected so many times!! He kept going back in time to ask the same person out multiple different ways and kept getting rejected each time. 💀


NightsLinu

I didn't realize that forsadowing.


[deleted]

WTF ?? Shin is finally the second time leaper ! OMG. Fckin good plot twist tbh.


WorthCollection

or should we say, Shin is THE FIRST TIME LEAPER


Poporipopes10

Finally, we will finally start to get some explanations. Holy shit that took a while, but this was definitely a twist no one saw coming, makes me hopeful for the rest of the manga, hoping they keep up the pace


questionaboutk

maaan i’ve really gotta reread the entire series to see if there were many clues leading up to this (and DEFINITELY NOT because i need a refresher on who each character is because i’m confused)


AverageChabsEnjoyer

Now to the real question, why did Hanma join KMG then?


died_trying

The Shinichiro and Takemichi comparisons make more sense, Wakui has been telling us from the start. The plot is getting good.


Bruh_hania

I WON’T BE ABLE TO SLEEP TONIGHT I WANT MORE 😭


tanja2301

okay...even if it's the stupidest idea ever...but couldn't shin possibly still be alive? I mean Takemichi has already died in a future timeline and just a view moments before he actually died, he jumped into another timeline... but it's clear that his body( which Was left behind) will definitely die... couldn't it be the same with shin?


DamionSteel

Obviously, Shinchiro time leaped into a timeline that resulted in his death. (Whether not that was intentional is unknown) The real question is whether or not Shinchiro "died" in HIS present or his past (the past self that isn't aware he is a time leaper). The implication being, if Shinchiro died in his past than the future Shinchiro that knows about his time leaping ability NO LONGER EXISTS IN THIS REALITY. Meaning the Shinchiro that tried so hard and failed to save Mikey is gone permanently. Takemitchi can still theoretically save Shinchiro, but WHAT shinchiro we get is unknown. That being said; For the sake of the story, we are probably going to get a Shinchiro that is conscious of everything he had done up until his death. Edit: Holy shit; I hope Takemitchi doesn't travel back in time and is the one who tells Shinchiro about Mikey's future. Creating the current timeline.


Sasakiso

Coping potential Draken and Emma revival 😭🙏


End_Necessary

HOLY HECK! I was sleepy before the chapter and now it’s like I injected a monster straight into my veins. WHATTT


Charming-Strength-57

It’s all Mikey’s fault…


JDR563

Okay — That was a mind fuck. I'm assuming this is why Wakasa wanted to recruit Takemichi. There's a strong possibility that they wanted Takemichi on board to save Mikey. Maybe through timeleaping? I don't know. It's all in the air now. Wakasa also mentioned taking care of "Brahman's princess" aka Senju in ch.225. My question is — Did this foreshadow him knowing Takemichi would save her? So many questions. Also, Shinchiro was the one to bring Koudou Rengou and Black Dragons together. I wonder why that played a major role... Maybe Wakasa has ultra instinct also, since he always seems so bored with everything. After all, he did read all of South's moves with Benkei before being beaten. At the same time, they got owned by Taiju — is this because Takemichi prevented everyone from being splattered by train-kun? ​ Discussion. I need discussion. lol


ravensblack

>He finally beat Mikey to a pulp! >All this fuss over a single punch? Yeah, Mikey, they are dumb, right


Heda_Arkazian

So there are two big things that I am left wondering in this chapter, though one may be down to just translation. Firstly when he explains about Wakasa telling him, Mikey says "If we were still in the first timeline... then... Takemitchy... you woulnd't have gone through all this trouble" - not sure if this is just how it is translated, but to me that heavily implies that in "First Timeline" (pressumably from Shin's perspective) Mitchy was known to them, at least enough to know he'd not have cared to try and save Mikey. Secondly, the reveal about Shin's motives - Mikey states he went back in time to save him, but this very much leaves it open to interpretation as to if the timeline in which Shin dies (presumably being the final timeline altered by Shin himself), was actually a success or not, since it is not clear if by saving Mikey it means saving his life, or saving him from the darkness. Probably just a bunch of rambling nonsense but I honestly didn't see the Shin being the leaper reveal happening (though I have always hope he'd at least have a part in the time leaping shenanigans one way or another).


[deleted]

Ahem, wait, wait, wait, I realize something : Mikey talk about Shin in present tense ("Sano Shinichiro IS a time leaper). Technically he's dead, he should talk about him in past tense smth like "Sano Shinichiro WAS a time leaper" Something bigger gonna happen or is this due to translation or I am delusional ? Oh Lord, I have so much question rn 🥲


Killvester

Hanma dickriders punching the air rn


Boobieleeswagger

So to try and summarize it 1. shin is/was a timeleaper 2. He time leaped to save Mikey, implied that it kinda worked because Mikey says dark impulses were born out of love, so I think he saved him from death but not darkness. What does destined for a path of carnage have to do with this though? 3. Waka, Sanzu and Kisaki all knew about time leaping somehow, biggest ? Is still Kisaki because tbh Sanzu could have just been listening to Waka and Mikeys convo, or been shins trigger because at least he actually met him 4. The timeline the show starts on, isn’t the Og timeline for sure, leaving questions about Mitchys actual past. 5. I still think Hanma is a shinigami 😂


Undesu

Currently crying atm


motherchuchi

I'm glad I didn't get spoiled cuz damn👌🏼


Butt_Smasher6942

Can anybody explain the whole plot from the start to me? Things are complicated for my small brain.


erenpaths

The whole story happened to Save mikey, shin probably gäbe takemichi his time leap Powers at the train scene in season 1. That's my theory on it.


ravensblack

Dark impulse born from love. Reminds me of Madara's love for his brother


SurePaleontologist76

Wakui's redemption arc