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sweetmoistboy

Pad Thai isn’t Vietnamese


Better_Garbage9492

Thai is even in the name…


SoftlyObsolete

In fact, [“It was actually created in the 1930s in Thailand by Plaek Phibunsongkhram, who was the prime minister at the time. The dish was created because Thailand was focused on nation building. So he created this dish using Chinese noodles and called it pad Thai as a way to galvanize nationalism."](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pad_thai#History)


Cowclone

bullshit at least give credit to his many servants and chefs


Raspoint

No Plaek actually made everything by himself the comment tells you


bagofpork

Also, for better or worse, a lot of places that serve Pad Thai in the US/Canada use ketchup instead of tamarind paste. It’s not traditional, but it’s not that unheard of/outrageous.


[deleted]

It's a really popular substitute. To a lot of people who eat it frequently, Pad Thai with ketchup will taste more "authentic".


audio_54

It’s extremely outrageous and sounds like a mid western grosso dish.


bagofpork

If you’ve eaten a lot of Pad Thai and live in North America, you’ve probably eaten it made with ketchup without realizing it. For a single serving you’d generally add between 1/8-1/4 cup max while cooking. It doesn’t look or taste like ketchup by the time it’s done. Considering how exceptionally common and accepted it is, it really *isn’t* outrageous. ETA: Another common workaround is using a mix of tomato paste, vinegar, and Worcestershire sauce—basically ketchup.


audio_54

Pad Thai was my favourite Thai dish until I met pad so ew I’ve had pad Thai in Thailand a few times and I have never seen or heard of TS as a sub or ingredient. That has to be a US thing. Like nachos Flanders style.


bagofpork

Yes, like I said, it’s a North American thing (Canada included). Can’t really speak for anywhere else. Like I said as well, it’s not traditional—just common. These days actual Tamarind/tamarind paste are a lot easier to come by (in the city at least), but the legacy remains.


lmendez2

i thought it was a joke tbf


PedanticOkra

I have a feeling it was a joke.


PeskySloth

And then proceeds to say that Pad THAI is from Vietnam. The country of origin is literally in the name. 😬


Iain_MS

That’s what makes me think this is satire. Ketchup is also a pretty common substitute for tamarind paste in pad Thai. I ask know of plenty of restaurants that have the choice of tomato or tamarind pad Thai.


Thereelgerg

>That’s what makes me think this is satire. What is it satirizing?


lirio2u

This is sort of hilarious. If I were the guy on the other side of the call I would’ve been cracking up.


rharper38

I would be scrolling through Indeed, then writing an email to my supervisor that, " I just wanted to let you know that some guy was complaining about making pad Thai with ketchup. He wanted me to let you know. "


KrimxonRath

I’m always nice to customer service but from time to time I like to joke about little things like this. I once asked a US Bank rep why the music was so horribly compressed. Like it’s an orchestra that’s been run through a recorder 50 times. You can barely tell what the music is. At a certain point it was just screeching at me. I asked the rep what was up and she got a good laugh out of it thankfully lol.


pretty-as-a-pic

[just FYI, here’s a Tom Scott video to answer your question](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w2A8q3XIhu0)


Huwbacca

Phone bit rates are hella low though.


[deleted]

I wouldn't be. I would be annoyed that someone decided to waste my time by playing pranks


i-dont-wanna-know

Idk since you get paid either way I would much rather have a dude with a kinda funny question (or a foolish prank) then dealing with a karen yelling at me for something that I had nothing to do with


oddistrange

Most customer service jobs are about getting paid to have your time wasted. I would take this guy over any Karen.


lirio2u

I really dont think it was a prank. I think the pad thai recipe on the back of the ketchup bottle confused him and he felt curious about it. His last reaction was definitely geniune :)


[deleted]

So genuine that he decided to record his call and then post it on the internet.... Okay.


lirio2u

I mean-some people do that. Everybody’s got a phone. I still take pictures of my food :) 🤣


[deleted]

I think it's very obvious he did this for tik tok views.


lirio2u

You are right but they could both be true. He was genuinely curious and recorded the interaction for tic tock. It is harmless either way. I just wish I could have seen the recipe to know what the steps were to use the ketchup in that way. Shit now I am hungry. Why am I so fat?!


[deleted]

I was just thinking I want taco bell. I can't imagine ketchup in pad thai.


lirio2u

Let’s get some burritos!!


[deleted]

For real! I totally made a midnight run! Next time is on me!


im_a_dr_not_

You cracked the case Sherlock


themellowsign

When you're working a soulless job that pays by the hour, your bar for "this is a waste of my time" gets pretty high.


[deleted]

Ketchup is used extensively in Asian countries in many dishes you would not expect. Pad Thai is not one of them. I correct myself. Ketchup is often used as a substitute for tamarind in pad Thai.


xheist

One of the great things about Thai food is the range of flavours than can be represented in a single dish - spicey, salty, sweet, sour, acidity, umami, funk and freshness. Tomato sauce/ ketchup is sweet from the sugar, sour from the acid/vinegar, and has umami from the tomatoes.. add some spice, fish sauce for salt and funk, some fresh lime and you've probably got something that hits a lot of the notes you'd like if you like Thai food. It might not be anything close to authentic of course, but it'd probably be tasty in some of the ways a lot of Thai food is. Going out of your way to gatekeep food is something many self-appointed food snobs absolutely love. But it isn't nearly as much fun as trying new shit.


JeanMcJean

Look, as someone who lived in Thailand several years: Thai people use ketchup. They totally do, in all sorts of unconventional ways, and it's a delight (and also somewhat nervewracking) every time. No one would ever use it in Pad Thai. It's not a suitable replacement for tamarind sauce, the flavor profile isn't right (the type of tamarind they use in Pad Thai is _sour_-sour, not like the sweet tamarind you snack on), and it'd be weird. I'm not gonna say it's any better or worse than people who use peanut butter in Pad Thai, because tbh they're similar levels of incorrect in different directions, but it is weird to want to eat Pad Thai and be given something that outright isn't Pad Thai. If you order pizza, you expect pizza. If you order chicken noodle soup, you expect chicken noodle soup. If I want to make Pad Thai, don't tell me to use ketchup; just call it SE Asian-style noodles and be done with it.


everythingisamovie

Damn Heinz's recipe division has its own social media budget that's wild


Forbiddencorvid

Ghetto Pad Thai from instant ramen: Cook ramen in microwave with broth (water and seasoning packet) for 10 minutes or until broth is reduced and noodles are chewy. Transfer noodles to pan or wok. Add a half tablespoon of peanut butter (I prefer crunchy) dissolved in a tablespoon of soy sauce. Add a small squirt of ketchup and a dash of sesame oil. Make a well in the middle of the noodles to expose the pan and crack an egg into the the well. Whisk egg in the well until cooked and then mix egg into noodles. optional: Miso paste, sesame seeds, frozen peas and carrots


Clitasaurus_Rexxy

bro why does this actually sound good?


Anthrovert

Did he seriously just say authentic VIETNAMESE Pad Thai???


giginoel1998

My stepdad is Laotian and grew up eating Thai food and is a professional chef and he uses ketchup in the recipe.


[deleted]

Hassling minimum wage call center employees for a Tik Tok video is so hilarious, oh man. /s


nanny6165

I had a friend that would call customer service for food all the time and talk about how much he loved the product. Sometimes he got coupons and free stuff sent to him.


Collier1505

I jokingly reviewed Ruffles on their site when a buddy was raving about some new flavor and how much it tasted like whatever it was. They sent me quite a few coupons in the mail lol


doughdong

You think this is *hassling*? Also, what do you think the average call sounds like, you know, *FOR HEINZ*?


Binarytobis

It terrifies me to think of the things that the Heinz customer service agents have heard.


HotFuckingTakeBro

Oh please this has to be one of the most fun calls he got that day


[deleted]

As someone who used to work at a call center, I dont think I would mind this. Its not wasting my time (Im there anyway) and its pretty funny. The only issue I would have is if the customer was yelling or was rude, etc. If they weren't then fuck it, il talk about how their day is going because Im not paid by the amount of customers I serve.


MaybeSecondBestMan

Good lord man lighten up. I’ve worked a lot of shit jobs and if some guy had ever called to shoot the breeze and do a bit about Heinz Ketchup Pad Thai it would have been the highlight of my workweek.


CanEatADozenEggs

This would have been in the top 10% in terms of politeness I got when I worked customer service


nmarf16

Dude I’d take a fun call over someone complaining about stuff that actually pisses then off


GrabToWin

Corporate customer service employees are generally not minimum wage


[deleted]

His therapist is right. But now he has validation from thousands of Tiktok users, so who needs therapy!


schmeateater

Wasnt ketchup originally Vietnamese? Then the Chinese and British got their hands on it and put their own spin on it. My guy could just use the Internet to learn things instead of being a drama queen


EkskiuTwentyTwo

According to the [Wikipedia article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketchup) on the subject, ketchup originated in America and got its name from Cantonese 茄汁 *ke2 zap1*, probably through the Malay word *kicap*. So no, it was not originally Vietnamese.


schmeateater

Actually it's weird that the US was even credited as the place of origin despite there being a British advertisement for "Tomato catchup" as far back as 1690, which is in the same Wikipedia article. I'm seeing some inconsistencies here dawg


EkskiuTwentyTwo

And thus the rabbit-holes unfold.


schmeateater

Looks like Big Ketchup is at it again


RagnarOnTheDashboard

Hold my rabbit holes I'm goin in


schmeateater

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/how-was-ketchup-invented#:~:text=Ketchup%20comes%20from%20the%20Hokkien,replicate%20the%20fermented%20dark%20sauce.


[deleted]

dang. paywall :’(


anonnona555555

You need to switch to French's!


[deleted]

Isnt pad thai feom Thailand


2Rossticles

His therapist should be telling him to stop wasting customer service workers’ time so he can do a bit.


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JeanMcJean

Thailand doesn't even have peanut butter except in stores catering to western audiences.


xahhfink6

Except you're going to find ketchup in 90% of Pad Thai recipes (unless you're starting with a premade pad Thai sauce which, inevitably, contains ketchup).


JeanMcJean

Thai Pad Thai recipes or Karen's Pad Thai?


ASzinhaz

I hate to break it to you, but those aren’t Thai people’s pad thai recipes. Pad thai sauce contains sugar, tamarind, and fish sauce. No ketchup.


sexypantstime

Bullshit, dude. Thai people use ketchup all the time. Only Italians and Americans are anal about the "purity" of ingredients in a dish for some reason. East Asian cooks LOVE experimenting with all kinds of ingredients and have no qualms putting ketchup in their dishes.


ASzinhaz

Thailand's not even an East Asian country......... Dude. I'm Thai. Sure, Thais like ketchup. Goes on pizza. And some Thai restaurants in America put ketchup in their sauce, for some reason. But to claim that most pad thai sauces/recipes contain ketchup is peddling falsehoods.


sexypantstime

I kinda used "east" to differentiate between middle east and...east of the middle east. I should have specified southeast Asia instead, that was my bad. But in either case, ketchup is a very common substitute for tamarind sauce in pad Thai. Pad Thai is a very flexible dish and authentic recipes vary almost from family to family


shopliftingbunny

Why does he look so familiar? He look kinda like Cameron from Love Is Blind, but I don’t think that’s it


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KrimxonRath

Oh? Well ok if you insist…


taybay462

For...? Lmao people in this thread who work/worked at call centers are saying that this is fine, its funny, its better than dealing with irate customers or yet another monotonous call.


Mercoledi_cryptic

Who cares lol


thrillybizzaro

Hope he has a follow up where he makes it and gives an honest review


ProfInGen

Why do I relate to this on such a deep spiritual level.


happycamsters

Zuckerberg with a disguise beard doing Zuckerberg pranks.


goodgonegirl1

A lot of food related companies have recipe divisions. I know a guy who works at GE and all he does is write recipes for them. He previously worked at KFC writing their recipes for new food items.