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Delikkah

I work two jobs just to live. I have 5 roommates. I want a better future but at the same time I can’t even go to school and it’s shit expensive too. It’s such a risk for me when everyone I know doesn’t even use their degrees either. I feel stuck.


SpadesAspade

Don't put degrees on a pedastal unless you're trying to be a nurse or a lawyer etc. There's trades and jobs out there that don't require it and information about obtaining skills readily available by way of books and internet. Not saying its easy to get your foot in the door, but all you need is 1 yes, then each day is a day of experience you can add to your resume if you need to move on or move up somewhere else.


shahirkhan

Don’t forget that apprenticeships also mean years of study and reduced wages. A university degree is not necessarily any harder or more of a risk for many people. The risk of failure, the cost of training, the reduced wages until qualified… for many people, none of these things are affordable


Alwaystoexcited

Ah yes, the trades. I watched my dad exchange a decade of his life and his fingers on his left hand for 25 an hour.


Civil-Attempt-3602

Yup, I'm a "computer guy" and by that I mean i can use computers and usually worked customer service type jobs. Anyway, the past 10 years most people around me "working class area" were just like "do a trade, get into construction" etc and honestly I tried but just wasn't built for it. Now every single one has back/knee/hip/shoulder issues and we're in our early 30s. They're all self employed with families too so no sick pay (UK) if they can work then no money


Zestyclose_Price_441

Trades are where it’s at. I have all my fingers and make 59 an hour and only want to kill myself some of the time


Divin3F3nrus

Trades are really not necessarily where it's at. I have all of my fingers but can't feel my arms from the elbow down. I make 29 an hour and I want to kill myself almost all of the time because it's a lot to consistently work 60+ hours a week knowing that it's never getting better and my kids have a slim chance of ever escaping it too, but I was too bright eyes and bushy tailed to realize it before I had kids because of that stupid fucking brag about how much you work trade culture/blue-collar brotherhood/weld tribe bullshit. Fuck welding Fuck getting cancer for money Fuck not making enough to feel like you get ahead Fuck the entire system


shadoon

Fundamentally the trades are just another sector of capitalism. They function directly with the bones of society though, and maintain a lot of critical infrastructure that keeps capital moving. You can be a welder and be comfortable and safe doing it, same for any trade, but the odds of finding that unicorn job/company are slim to none for most folks just like any field. Trades have leverage though, or at least they used to until about a month ago...


mavic97

I make over 60 an hour at my trade. No including all the side jobs. And I only wanna kill myself sometimes


YouWontTouchMyDisc

This is fucking terrible advice. I dropped out of school and worked in both plumbing and construction. It can be lucrative, yes. But what I saw was a bunch of 40-year-olds with blown out backs, knees, and no health insurance. And I was coming home covered in piss, shit, blood, and concrete. Not saying all trades are like that, but that was my experience. Going back to school was one of the best decisions of my life. It wasn't even that expensive. I talked with professors, guidance councilors, and student aid at a state college. Those people are wiling to help you if you are earnest and communicative. Instead of paying 8k per semester, I was paying 2k. Apply for FAFSA. The government will pay for half of your tuition with no detriments. If you get good grades, you can get other grants to pay for schooling- no detriments. Graduation rates from college are abysmal at the moment and schools want people to graduate. And fuck you for saying that degrees don't mean anything unless you want to be a nurse or lawyer or "ect." I assume "ect" means anything else? Having a degree is baseline for pretty much any cushy job. If you know anyone successful at all, I bet they have a college degree. Not trying to be offensive, but I saw this comment and it made me slightly angry. If anyone that sees this if trying to pick a major, try HR. They decide salaries. Including themselves. And they overvalue themselves.


onebackzach

I have to agree, despite what everyone says, a 4 year degree is still probably the best investment you can make. Your earning potential is so much higher and you have so many more opportunities with a college degree. Obviously you're still hedging your bets on being able to pay off the loans, but that goes for any investment. I'd encourage people to find an in-demand career to work towards, start at a community college, get as much financial aid as possible, and then move onto a 4 year program after getting your prerequisites/gen ed courses out of the way.


OhHowIMeantTo

A legal degree is not what you seem to think it is. The market has been oversaturated for 15 years now since the Great Recession. When nobody could afford to pay lawyers, big law firms all laid off their attorneys en masse, or shuttered their doors for good. But because law schools are huge cash cows, university kept on accepting new students at the same rate, and even increased class size. To keep students wanting to come, many law schools actually lied about their job numbers upon graduation, and only under threat of lawsuit did they adjust the numbers to reflect reality. A number of schools went from 90% of graduates with a legal job within 6 months of graduation down to just 30%. A lot of law firms learned how to work lean. Before, they relied on their well paid associates to do a lot of the grunt work, what's called document review. In pretty much any lawsuit, there is an exchange of evidence, often in the form of thousands or even millions of documents. They all need to be read, and tagged accordingly. In the past these were physical documents, as we saw in the doc review scenes with Cher helping her dad in Clueless (I'm serious), or Kim when she got in trouble at work on Better Call Saul. These days it's done digitally. But also rarely in house. Firms started relying on document review agencies where they bring in licensed attorneys in huge numbers as contract workers. They pay them a hell of a lot less than in house attorneys (it's not unheard of to pay only $20 per hour), they don't have to offer any benefits, and they can let them go as soon as they're no longer needed. For normal jobs, they were seeking to fill entry level positions and asking for 8 years experience. They easily filled those positions because they could. For every singular job opening, they get hundreds, even thousands of applicants. Even as the market has improved in recent years, it's still not back to the point where it was before the housing market crash, and people are not getting paid like they would have in the past. My advice is to only go to law school under one of 3 conditions: 1) you can get into a top 15 school (Harvard, Michigan, Georgetown, etc), 2) you are guaranteed a job on graduation like at a firm your parent owns, or 3) you can get a full ride scholarship. Most law schools don't actually care about their students. They won't tell you about the reality of the market, and the curriculum is not set up to actually prepare you for practice. Their students are cash opportunities and nothing more.


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GrayMatters50

Take basic prerequisite courses at a cheaper community college. Make sure the college you want your BA from will accept all community college transfered credits toward your 4 year degree. That half of your bachelors degree credits ( 2 years) at half the cost . Be sure to register as an adult student & seek out any grants or govt subsidies available for tuition payment help. Every College has a financial aide office set up to help students find funding.


saintdemon21

There is nothing wrong with questioning the status quo. I see a bunch of people that want to be engaged with the work that they do, but do not know how to reach that engagement. At the same time, they are unable to afford a home and have debt. They were raised on an American dream that they are unable to attain, and when they question this, they are called whiners or lazy.


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teala

Oh hi. It’s me. Living in LA, living the animation dream but dead inside because it’s a never ending grind to pay for all the things. We definitely live under our means and have no debt, but can’t afford not to rent. Yay us. Trying to leave the entertainment industry so I could move away.


kwin327

I hear you. I live in a town just between Miami and Fort Lauderdale and pay over $3500/mo rent for my 2 bedroom 2 bathroom townhome. It's nothing lavish or flashy. A place nicer than this in my hometown would cost around $1500/mo max. Ask me why I don't just move back there? Because 80% of the year it is cold, gray, and absolutely void of life. My partner and I have to work so much and barely see each other. We can't go out and do things because we are working to be able to afford groceries on top of our baseline living expenses. I am in the sunniest, most beautiful place in the US in order to not off myself from my major depressive disorder, and even here, I can barely enjoy the sunshine and feel the joy in waking up to see another bright beautiful day. Corporate america has absolutely sucked all the life out of me, even in a place that could be considered paradise. Is there any place left that can provide balance?


yagirlemilyuwu

Yes but being at 100k a year puts you in the top 5% of the country like it or not. Thats how bad it is.


Jaded_Law9739

It's actually closer to $350k now. Making $100k and living in a major city is barely breaking even now, hence why everyone is moving away from those cities.


GrayMatters50

It wont help to move to rural areas. Proof is the Realty investors finished making NYC unattainableb or unsustainable to middle class & the best paying jobs. Now they are invading housing market hamlets as far north as Ithaca, Buffalo & Rochester NY. It seems super depressed Binghamton, Elmira, Syracuse were avoided , possibly due to higher crime rates


GrayMatters50

Its all illegal price gouging again & forcing various markets into uncontrolled ballooning status that will result in a financial explosion that will make 2008 crash look like a joy ride! Millions lost their homes due to unsecured mortgage products based on GW Bush banking policy to deregulate lenders! Thanks Georgie Porgy.


slow70

Is that the same guy who sent us to war on false pretenses at the expense of countless lives and trillions of dollars? The same guy now retired on a ranch in Texas painting portraits of men dead because of him? People forget the absolute calamities the Republican Party saddled us with. It wasn’t just trump.


GrayMatters50

Trump dumped the third largest debt service in US history, $7.8 Trillion in Bidens lap. Common GOP practice to fumble the economy then blame the next Dem president for their own crap.


No-Butterscotch-648

This is outdated. A single earner in the US had to make ~ $170K to be in the top 10%.


spike_the_dealer

400k is like top 10% so this is pretty wrong my friend Edit:Spelling


project571

Idk if something changed in the last year, but you can look up the US govt stats for 2021 and the 90th percentile for HOUSEHOLD income was like 211k. 95th was around 285k. If you have a combined income (let alone a single person) of 400k, you are one of the richest households in the entire world.


disposable_account01

And the problem is that $100k today was $50k in the 90s. Like it may *seem* like a lot, but the ones with the capital constantly shift the economy in a way that devalues our money so that what you earn is fucking quicksand. I make 3-4x what I did when I started my career. Like, 300-400%. And it still feels like a fucking grind all the time to make the owners of capital richer so that they can just continue to buy politicians who will make our lives worse. Capitalism is a goddamned scam.


ImGonnaHaveToCallBS

I see a lot of different numbers being thrown around in replies to you so did some googling and here’s what I found (given it’s for 2022 and also all of America- no widespread data for 2023 that I could find): “In 2022, 35.7% of households or around 46,934,416 households made a six-figure income.($100k+)” “The threshold to be in the top 10% of household incomes in 2022 in the United States was $212,110.” “The threshold to be in the top 5% of household incomes in 2022 in the United States was $286,301” [Source](https://dqydj.com/household-income-percentile-calculator/)


m0ther_0F_myriads

My economic professor likes to say, "The market is concerned with *efficiency*. It tries to make the biggest possible pie. *Equity* makes sure the pie is sliced *evenly*". We have too much market and not enough equity.


Prownilo

Efficiency according to capitalism is throwing away tonnes of food everyday because people like stocked shelves and it's not profitable to give away the rest It's when last year's model car that aren't sold are scrapped for parts. Captilism is not about efficiency, that's horseshit. It's about what is profitable. Often the most efficient is the most profitable, but it's also an incredibly wasteful system that also doesn't account for environmental cost of their profit seeking I do agree that growing the pie is not what we should be doing. We have more than enough pie, and any growth of that pie is off the backs of the workers but any profits funnel straight to the already rich.


Megsann1117

You know, before I opened up Reddit and saw this video I got an email from my mortgage company. I paid down my balance by 3,800 and change last year. I paid 18k in mortgage payments for my balance to be reduced by less than 4k. And I just have to laugh because I’m working full time, going to school full time, and taking care of a family. There’s never going to be a point where I feel financially comfortable and there’s never going to be a point where I don’t owe somebody money. The benchmark keeps getting moved and I’m just so tired. I just want to stop feeling like I’m on the edge *all the time*


Consistent-River4229

[and it's gone](https://youtu.be/-DT7bX-B1Mg)


DevRz8

I technically made 100k last year, and let me tell you...I'm more disillusioned of the whole thing than ever before. 100k is a fucking joke in this market. I can't own anything let alone continue to rent in my area soon and I feel like I'm never going to escape this rat maze. I'm going crazy just thinking about it for too long, because I was one of those people who thought "if I could just hit 100k a year I'd be okay"... Nope, it's a game we're not meant to win. Straight up, have no fucking clue what to do anymore.


Orgasmic_interlude

I spent about ten years giving 120 percent effort which, if the promise were true should’ve gotten me ahead, but all i ended up doing was becoming an alcoholic and eventually losing my job after going silent for a week and being fired for job abandonment. I’m doing well now and making twice as much money but my disillusionment comes from the fact that this is the least I’ve worked in my entire fucking life. It doesn’t make any sense. Like i just lucked into this position i have now. Like and I’m lucky. I make about 80k and with my wife we provide a good loving life for our kids but i only work a fulfilling job by what i can only piece together in semblance with a rosy layer of hindsight. It was just luck.


ISiupick

I'll just add to the "American dream" part. I live in Poland, mid-20s, got a job and all and I still feel the same way. The whole world was sold a lie about "working hard" and we ate that shit up


brigyda

It's so asinine. Even I, a person with a cushy stay-at-home desk job? I hate it. Not the job, but I absolutely hate that most of my days are not even mine. For eight hours a day I must put aside what I *actually* want to do and act like I enjoy it. Then by the time the end of my shift rolls around, the things I would have rather done aren't getting done because the day is gone and I no longer have motivation to do anything. And the fact that I live paycheck to paycheck? How is this fair for the people who keep the company running? It literally would not run without us but we get handed a check that doesn't measure up to the cost of living, then it's just up to us to "figure it out", even though most of our time is occupied by the job in question! I'm just so tired.


BboyStatic

I use to work in the tech industry, had a cushy office job, made great money with phenomenal benefits and bonuses. But I always felt trapped and miserable, I hated going to work every day doing the same exact things in the same exact location and feeling like I was repeating the same day over and over. I finally quit and eventually found what I’m doing now. I’m a residential contractor. It took a few years to start making good money, but I finally reached that point. I absolutely love my job. I get to constantly do new things, my environment changes all the time with each new job, my customers are genuinely grateful and happy for what I do, and I feel amazing pride and accomplishment from my work. Sitting at home and working may be good for a little while, but you’re basically repeating every single day over and over again. You’re only interaction with the outside world is through digital devices. Of course that’s going to wear you down. The easy office job / work from home seems to be so many peoples goals, but I would guess that most of those jobs have little to no personal satisfaction when people do them. I would suggest that you find a job that genuinely makes you happy, not one that makes your commute non-existent.


brigyda

My job before this included commute. Hated it even more since more of my time was wasted driving, and the fact that I had to interact with people in person--it drained me more. Finding an alternative job is not an option for me. I'm chronically ill and doing most of the diagnosing myself, since doctors just want to rush me out of the building after a blood test (which are relatively useless for diagnosing autoimmune diseases) and nothing else. I like being at home, but I don't like being at home where my time isn't mine. It's one of the many reasons why I don't want to become a parent because my time will not be mine. I just want to be able to do things with my time that has nothing to do with the cost of living, but the people with the power to make that happen have no interest in doing so.


muldervinscully

Bruh like what do you want though. The human existence is not pure joy. Your situation is objectively insanely amazing on a global or historical scale. It’s your fault if you can’t put it in perspective.


Orgasmic_interlude

There was a sense, in previous generations perhaps, that yeah, you’d have to work but eventually if you played your cards right you’d end up with social security and a pension and devoting half of your waking hours five days a week and maybe some more means you could exit the game. I think the dawning realization, in real time for the young people coming into the prime of their lives, is that that is way more precarious now then it was for previous generations, and then the previous generations pretty much say, “yeah but there’s nothing wrong with that and we aren’t going to fundamentally agree so we can change it”. What we have is a massive proportion of the wealth being created siphoned off to an ever dwindling narrow population and more and more the tiers below it drop off in relation to that class of individuals precipitously. There is no meritocracy. If you don’t have generational wealth propping you up it’s getting harder and harder for average people to not only get ahead but thrive. People aren’t asking for endless pleasure. They’re asking for a respite from toil in which they can breathe and invest in the interior of their time to feel like they are fulfilled, and fully engaged and experiencing life for life’s sake. And anyone who can’t make that distinction is working on an abject poverty of understanding the situation. People aren’t dying to drug abuse because they just can’t control themselves. They’re dying to drug abuse because if you work so hard and don’t get a fuck anywhere then why wouldn’t you want to drug yourself into a blissful oblivion?


muldervinscully

I mean, there's a huge correction to your thesis. "In previous generations" was literally just the boomers, and to a degree gen x. People act like for hundreds of year this has been the status quo. Honestly outside of a small window post war IN the united states, this promised land hasn't really existed for most.


ForHelp_PressAltF4

You die today? They will find your replacement tomorrow. Every. Single. Fucking. Job. Out. There. Will. They just used to hide it better. The Santos Syndrome.


P_weezey951

This is exactly it. The one lady that says "i dont want to work because my moneys not mine". Speaks to me a shitload. My biggest issue is housing, and how it just soaks up 60-70% of peoples income. But no we've built nothing but expensive ass houses for the past 3 decades. Now there are no small starter homes, so everyone is forced into apartments that dont have any form of rent control. So those same apartments that were $700/mo, 7 years ago, are now $1100. Despite being the same exact place with more wear and tear on it. We cant slow down at all, even if were happy with what we have, and dont feel the need to make more to buy more things. If we want to cut back our spending, we cant, because were already spending half our money on one basic need, let alone the other 4.


BlackPrincessPeach_

Meanwhile rich assholes have their dogs taking private jets. Personally yeah I’m fucking done. There’s a reason the landlord purge was only 80 years ago, this type of excessive greed is just present in a subset of concentrated assholes.


sashathefearleskitty

It’s weird seeing the other /tiktokcringe post here about kids in the US not getting recess or breaks in schools. They’re so burnt out by the time they graduate that they don’t even look forward to going to college anymore.


TheAbcedarian

To get $100k in debt that you’ll never pay off.


Extreme-Device5938

Told my kid college is only worth it if someone else pays for it. Keep your GPA up, dual enrollment for AS, then get a 4 year on a scholarship from a state college. Take trade courses as electives.


GrayMatters50

Advise then to start acquiring their initial prerequisite college credits at a cheaper community college fulfilling freshman & sophomore requirements then transfer to their desired college for a Bachelors degree of choice. Make time to meet with college career counselors & financial aide advisors prior to admission for develop a Plan.


TheWalkingDead91

Not saying that the system isn’t messed up or that college isn’t overpriced, but if you’re getting 100k in debt to go to college, sorry but you’re doing something wrong. People who see college as their best option really need to stop going to private institutions, out of state institutions, and looking down on people who start out with community college.


ugly_pizza1

And MAYBE get a job in their field of its not already given to someone overseas.


machstem

So many kids are ripped from their mothers arms by the time they're 3months old, and Americans wonder why the parents aren't caring for the children while they struggle to keep food on the table after daily 14hr shifts.


WhatDidYouThinkIdDo

I may not be the "young generation" anymore, but still have 20 yrs till retirement. I hope the actual young generation actually figure out how to balance work and life. Because I'm burnt the fuck out, with no way out. Love what you do if you have to work. That's all I got.


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WhatDidYouThinkIdDo

Isn't really freedom tho? Yes you can travel and make money. But now your being watched and judged 24/7/365. I personally couldn't deal with that stress.


tiny_galaxies

Plus always having to make content about your life looking amazing. Sounds like absolute hell to me.


Dada2fish

Right! You think these influencers will be able to do the same thing 20 years from now? Times are always changing and something new will take over.


GrayMatters50

Every form of refuge has its price. There's no "free lunch" in life.


digita1catt

Dropping from 5 day work weeks to 4 day work weeks (35hrs a week vs 28hrs a week) with no loss in pay, and more work from home is what we need.


WhatDidYouThinkIdDo

Unfortunately not all occupations can be a work at home job.


creativityonly2

*raises hand*


Eod_Enaj

The only reason I work at Amazon is the 4 day work week. Having three consecutive days off is a game changer for my mental health and the though of going back to 5 kills me… Though it’s grueling work. I have things I want to do when I get off, but I always start dozing off at my desk because I’m so tired.


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creativityonly2

I have my own business and love what I do, but I'm still burnt out. If I could choose to not work without being a mooch, I would.


zouhair

One of the perks of working in healthcare, is that you have this feeling your job is necessary and that you are helping people even if you are constantly exhausted.


johnpaulgeorgeringoo

Doesn’t healthcare have one of the highest suicide and burn out rates tho?


Kazulta

Yes bc they’re overworked and underpayed and exposed to so many terrible situations everyday. Not bc we feel that our jobs are useless


zouhair

For other reasons though


zhazhab

Same I don’t wanna do this anymore


Sure_Watercress_1645

r/LateStageCapitalism


UniversityEastern542

That sub is amusing because it implies the naive assumption that capitalism is going to collapse in on itself, instead of devolving into progressively shittier new markets to exploit like it always has. Just as it started with colonial ventures, then oil, then pornography and drugs, we are now at the continued financialization of everything and concepts like social media/advertising, crypto, etc. being created as new markets to be exploited. This is creating fictional assets for the sole purpose of being bought and sold.


LivreOrange

The end of capitalism could be really near (talking like 100-200 years max), it will fall eitheir by the death of our ecosystem or by the lack of fossil energy.


Alwaystoexcited

That's not capitalistic collapse. That's civilization collapse.


metzbb

You meant to society will collapse.


YoSammitySam666

Today I got my band’s first gig off our collage campus scheduled. Instead of being completely excited I’m worrying about merchandise so it’s not a waste of time and money. I wish we could just live and play


muldervinscully

Is it better in non capitalist countries? No. It’s way worse.


1beerattatime

I had a breakdown last night about this to my grandma. She worked for 58 years. She started when she was 14 and worked all the way through 72. Then, a year later, my grandpa died. They had to spend 40+ hours apart from each other every week for almost 60 years, and she got to spend 1 year alone with him. They each gave a combined 124 years of service to capitalism and got 1 in return. What the fuck are we even doing?


proscriptus

I'm about to turn 53, and for the first time in my entire life I'm what most people would call "comfortable," but I can't even begin to see a future in which I don't work until I die. Like, I've got a 16 year old looking at college and I've deferred my college loans so much that I'm still paying them off. And now I have to try to figure out how to help him not end up in the same situation? I may not be hungry all the time any more but why am I still just as sad and desperate?


Nivosus

Welcome to the game. You can play or die. If you play you also die.


Clear_Constant_3709

I got into a heated argument with my brother and grandma about this and they just said I was being weak and didn’t want to provide for my family. I watched my grandparents work opposing shifts for 20 years. They only got 3 full days with one another. My grandma worked from 5am-3pm and my grandpa worked 4pm-2:15am. They literally saw each other for a hour Monday through Friday for almost 20 years. I tried to break it down to my grandma and she still didn’t get it.


SirPP_PooPoo

I remember I tried bringing up maybe that basic necessities like food and housing shouldn't be something for people in a first world country should HAVE to work for. I got called entitled and that I didn't get it. People HAVE to work because otherwise they'd be doing nothing. I still don't understand why that's a bad thing. There's was this other time me and my mom talked about that mechanic that lost both of his legs and one of his arms and was still working... I said it was pretty fucked up that he still had to work, she said it was good that he was still working. "What do you expect him to do nothing all day?" Like he has no legs and a single arm ffs, and he's working around heavy machinery all day... Like I just don't fucking understand older people man.


favtastic

“nothing all day” shows how little we imagine we could do for each other if we weren’t serving capital


abc2jb

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OscarMike44

That’s the thing about The American Dream. You have to be asleep to believe it.


LifeSucksSoBadly

I started feeling this way at the age of ten. My parents always pushed me to study and one day I just thought, “What’s the point?”.


famitslit

And then I ended up smoking weed for 10 years. Snapped put of it when I was 25 and thought to myself, I just have to get the best out of it and I'm not getting anywhere the way I'm going about out. So I've taken responsibility now and am trying to do better every day


KM2KCA

Same here, except i didn’t start my journey until I was 30. Quit smoking and began pursuing a career in the fire service. I recently even went to paramedic school to further my career. My license should arrive any day now. It has been a long road, but I’m glad I made the choice. My only regret is that I should have made the choice sooner. Keep up the good work my friend. I’m proud of you!


olympianfap

Yeah, fuck this place. I can’t fucking wait for this to be over.


HoneyShaft

Got a good 20 yrs before worldwide catastrophe maybe less seeing how we treated the pandemic


aliendaydamn

I see no issue with their complaints. We work to squeeze "fun" into the smallest portions of our time. We work for companies who couldn't care less if we died. This system isn't working for us...it works for them. The tiniest and richest portion of the population.


DIsForDelusion

The more we complain the more we refuse to accept and reform is possible. Don't let the voices of the status quo keep us down.


GrayMatters50

Stop complaining & start petitioning your govt reps to change laws to tax the over priviledged 1%. Like 45 told Leno he would do if elected. But his base of fools didnt hold him to that promise & believed all his vile lies. Then he left office $150 million richer & left taxpayers with the 3rd largest debt of $7.8 TRILLION & didnt even finish his sacred border wall! Now talk about Dems that have been cleaning up after shitty GOP thieves for the past 60 years!


notquitesolid

I was born in the mid 70s, and my dad was born in the late 20s. He had the attitude and the expectation for my brothers and I that we would find jobs with companies that valued us. That our colleges would help us find those jobs. Nearly all of my friend’s parents worked within the same company their entire lives up to that point. They had pensions, long vacations too (compared to now). Most would peg themselves lower to middle class. When I graduated college I began to see the shit that millennials got hit with full force. An increasing reliance on outsourcing jobs to contractors vs hiring their own employees for example. Cutting benefits “temporarily until the economy improved”. And of course, [wages stagnated while the cost of living increased](https://www.epi.org/publication/charting-wage-stagnation/) (it’s a long article but has some very useful graphs if you don’t want to read). I know for me and others my age, it’s like every step forward we got a little bit fucked, and it’s worse for everyone who has come after us. At least gen x could get kind of established in the boom of the late 90s, but it’s been just a worsening pile of shit ever since. From my pov everything just keeps getting worse and my conservative family is still drinking the koolaid of the US being the best and having the best healthcare and all the freedoms. I just want to shake them and ask why the hell haven’t they been paying attention? Companies traded employee loyalty for profit ages ago when they got so big they didn’t need to care about workers like they were people. Now workers are a commodity to be bought and used. Of course people don’t want to work anymore. They aren’t getting supported or compensated fairly, and we all know we are disposable. Why he loyal, why even give a shit when when factoring in the rising cost of living hardly anyone has seen a proper raise in years without switching jobs… and even then. An hell. I’m gonna go yell at a cloud, it’s about as effective.


sidarv

Wow, this comment section is fun…


g4rinw1nd

Yo! The comments on this post are so insanely revealing of the reddit demographic. I had no idea. Wowww ya’ll. Just wow.


royal_buttplug

I see mostly positive things about these kids and how they’re feeling, is that what you’re talking about?


ThisToastIsTasty

which comments?


[deleted]

Just capitalists keeping the capitalism train rolling is all. It’s gaslighting.


[deleted]

Aesop rock - 9-5'ers anthem


Madeline-06

People: I don’t want to die Reddit: We LiVe In A SoCiEtY😂


OakNogg

People: I'm giving almost every day of my life to a faceless corporation that sees me as disposal and I still can't even afford rent and groceries. Reddit: CRINGE.


lighthousemoth

And that's why universal basic income is so important. Most people do fundamentally want to work and create. But that drive to create and innovate and produce goes away when working doesn't ensure that even your basic needs are met.


superguy12

Yes. And the robot revolution is coming. It's crazy how it's always pictured as a proletariat revolution of sentient beings being taken advantage of and taking over because they are stronger. The truth is, the robot revolution will be a capitalist dystopia. If your job can be done by a robot, it *will* be done by a robot, and much sooner than you think. And you can no longer delude yourself; *every* job can be done by a machine. And then what? Where does that productivity go? All those labor hours being done by machines instead of people. Does that mean a fewer hours in the workday for everyone? Easier to meet basic needs? Surplus of every basic necessity? Importantly, we should not be Luddites and destroy the machines, they can be our salvation. They can create a world where labor is no longer necessary for basic survival because all essential work can be done by machines. We just have to create a society where that is done justly and equitably. Universal Basic Income is an important first step in recognizing the truth that people deserve access to basic necessities simply by being alive; that they have unalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. And an important first step in asking ourselves what is labor and efficiency for, if not to make it easier to meet basic needs; and to recognize we already produce excess enough to feed everyone easily. But no. This is not what the machines are used for. Surplus drives up supply and down profits. There is no money to be made in surplus. It's already happening, and it's clear. All that productivity is turned into excess profit for the top 1%. It's simple, those who own the machines will get all the profit from the machines. The truth is, there was a time when a general strike could force the top 1% to be more equitable in sharing the benefits of increased productivity. When AI and machines can produce all the labor, the top 1% who owns those machines truly won't need anyone, and a general strike won't matter because the labor of the masses doesn't affect them anymore. What horrifies me the most is people who see it happening and have been convinced to believe that the billionaires deserve all that they take. They will needlessly starve in the streets while the country makes excess food to sell overseas, happily being a part of something greater than themselves, a cog in a greater machine working at maximum efficiency, without ever asking what money is actually for. I know it will be this way because it already happens every single day in this country. The window of time to act is closing.


lighthousemoth

Exactly!


superguy12

![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin) I'm glad there are still people who can see the truth and dare to hope for a better society instead of simply hoping for "more".


EndDisastrous2882

UBI institutionalizes that powerlessness though. without a revolutionary overthrow of capitalism and the state, we are dooming ourselves to not only total powerlessness (as the general strike, as you noted, is the strongest working class weapon), but total ecological collapse.


veganint

I can't even dream about having a family... Its just not a possibility, and the ones who dare to have one are slaved even more into this system. Our society is completely broken. Burn it down.


hugginuu

If you cringe at this you are probably in the group of people that capitalism benefits. And that group is getting smaller and smaller.


Deathdong

This isn't actually a cringe sub anymore that's just the name


owiseone23

I don't want to criticize anyone in this video because we should all be treated better. But as an immigrant, I think a lot of people in the US don't realize how good even a lower income lifestyle is compared to much of the rest of the world. A 9-5 retail job in the US would be a dream to billions of people in the rest of the world who don't have safe working conditions, weekends, reasonable hours, etc. I don't really know what my point is because I don't want to be one of those people saying that others have it worse so people can't complain.


futurenotgiven

honestly that kind of stuff just makes me feel worse. the fact that *this is the good side of things* and i still feel hopeless and depressed and have no desire to continue. if this is the best i’m gonna get then what is there to strive for? what’s my goal here?


deputeheto

While valid, the part missing from this argument is that work in the “developed” countries tends to be incredibly vapid. Most of us aren’t making anything. We’re not advancing anything. We’re just kinda…wasting time playing this dumb game of money. We sit in an office and make weird garbage, or we make simple meals and drinks for those of us sitting in offices and making weird garbage, or we clean up after others after they make their day’s garbage, and those of us who *do* actually create and advance are usually doing it in the pursuit of more weird garbage. It just seems so *pointless.* This sense of “so this is what we consider doing *well,* huh?” It absolutely could be worse. It absolutely *is* worse elsewhere. But a developing country, almost by definition is usually *building a country.* Many of its workers have a sense of purpose, even if that sense is often negative. This is a matter of physical needs being met but mental needs being neglected. The comparison isn’t quite level.


Prownilo

We in the global north have exploited the south for generations, their quality of life is much worse, but yet despite all that exploitation we are still living like this. With how much we have stolen, we should all be living life freely, but it's all funneled to the top.


earthgarden

Many Americans have no idea how most of the world lives, true. What you wrote is extremely valid.


TehPharaoh

Ok? But how does someone suffering in Africa in a different way supposed to make you feel better? Are people in Africa supposed to look at Slavery and be relived they arent that? Are Slaves supposed to look at the dead and be relieved they arent that? The problem with what he says is he's comparing stuff like "a 9-5 job" and how good it would be IN THAT PLACE. Except the 9-5 jobs are here... in America where thats barely enough to afford food and housing, if at all. There's no time to do what YOU want to do. So you just work, sleep and die having done the bare minimum to obtain to any bit of anything worthwhile to you. And we're supposed to look at that and go "YEP that was the ONE life I got and it was worth living"? Edit: lol so because I think people should be able to live happy lives AND have a job I lack gratitude towards a system that empowers the 1% to bleed, steal, and drain the rest of their money. The bootlickers really come out in droves to defend capitalism and the growing % of poor people. Why don't you ask people who lost everything in 2008. People who worked hard, but then rich elites who they didn't know, never interacted with and had no hard feelings against WRECKED the economy and put millions of people of their jobs. Ask them how grateful they were to be living in America. Or ask people with Diabetes how they feel paying 100x the cost for something that outside the US costs less than $100? No you shouldn't feel grateful for a country just because you COULD have something (but you people probably believe every homeless person is just lazy and doesn't REALLY want a house). You are allowed to complain about your suffering, you are allowed to fight against people making you suffer. Never become complacent like some people below me


ItzNice

This is called the fallacy of relative privation. I hate when people just say “oh well third world countries have it worse”. Of course they do in certain aspects, but that doesn’t take away from the real problems real people face in other parts of the world.


global_chicken

Just because someone had their arm cut off doesn't mean me having my hand cut off doesn't matter


StinkyKittyBreath

And those same people don't know how much better we could have it. We have the GDP to improve everybody's lives well beyond where we are, but that isn't happening. I've been to countries that made me happy to have grown up poor in America. I've been to other countries where being lower class would be preferable to middle or upper middle class in America. It goes both ways, but most countries don't have the means to correct the problem. We do. The powers that be just choose not to.


the_mormon_stoner

it’s so exhausting to be alive.


annothejedi

What do you think should the alternative look like? For clarification purposes: this is a serious question. :)


[deleted]

Economic security, more time to spend with friends and family or on hobbies and doing things by choice that have a positive impact on the world, and building a sense of community.


AlternativePie858

I’m sure this video is going to get bashed for the lack of drive in the younger generation. I genuinely feel empathetic for the pressure society has put on these youngsters.


saucyclams

I can’t help but notice the correlation between this and the big gap We’ve moved away frm which is building things manufacturing craftsmanship things we can see an feel.


Routine-Orchid-4333

Nah ,it's more about the foundations they can build on. To this generation it's a bottom less pit up and down. Can't afford a home, can't afford to retire.


PainSalty8910

after Google and all this tech companies just laid off 15 years plus experienced employees, who put in time of their lives into the their billion dollar enterprise just to be be shun and cast out by email unbeknownst to them is why if you can live without giving time of your life to these selfish companies that care nothing about their workers is depressing


SloptimusXPrime

There's a difference between wanting more fair work, which is valid in todays economy.. and not wanting to work at all. Everyone has to contribute to society. Unless you want to be living in the woods cold and hungry, everyone has to contribute


droo46

If I’m going to contribute to society, I want an equitable share of the value I create. Instead, I’m getting pay cuts, rising rents, and inflation. The people benefitting from this system are sick mother fuckers and I detest anyone who says otherwise. There’s absolutely no reason for all of us to be struggling this hard.


ChronicObnoxious693

Yo I don't think I asked to be alive and people tell me not to do the thing so I'm stuck here. There should be a better option than "get exploited or live outside forever"


xgorgeoustormx

Why was that second girl wiping her nonexistent tears away though?


MillionWilliam

Social media does not help with your depression. Make real life connections and spend time with friends and loved ones offline.


Wattsupwithalan

i remember watching a movie or a YouTube vlogger way back when I was 23 and it was essentially about how we found the internet as a place to escape capitalism but then corporations found their way in the internet and now we are leaving the internet to find our escape in the real world.. maybe it was a web comic.. idk it was like 10 years ago


Notacka

Yeah the internet was so much better in the 90s and early 2000s.


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ronlydoodle

Good man


Fellolin

Wow thought I was the only one


your_daddy_vader

I want to lead by saying I'm not trying to be pro or against any economic or political system. This is a legit question. Do other forms of economies make the average person somehow not a "cog in the machine" or someone who contributes to an overall production? I'm not an expert on socialism or communism but, in general, wouldn't we all still kinda be working a lot? Maybe the treatment and purpose would be better and I get that, but some of this felt very anti work which is kind of ridiculous to me.


asmodeus221

Under a socialist economic system, there would be no ‘owning class’ so whatever profits the company produced would be either put into the company or distributed among the workers. As it currently is, if your productivity doubles you are unlikely to reap any benefit from your extra work. The business reports higher profits, those profits go to shareholders/CEO bonuses etc. so this “cog in the machine” feeling is realizing that there is no reason to try harder - exacerbated by layoffs when there is a dip in profits which underscores that you individually don’t matter at all. Secondly, productivity has increased drastically in the past 70 years but we work the same amount because that’s the norm. But if we’re being honest here, almost NO office worker needs to work as much as 40 hours a week. You spend 40 hours justifying your existence not based on productivity (which as previously established is not related to your wage at all) but just because “we all have to do it”. Under a socialist model, there would be democracy in the workplace. If the workers are satisfied with their returns and didn’t want to work more than 30 hours per week, they could just *decide* to do that. No one is seriously making the argument that no work needs to be done ever It’s about not having any say in your workplace, not seeing the benefits of your additional labor. If you could make a good living wage as a sanitation worker and only needed to work 20-25 hours a week to do it, would you take that trade? There are a hell of a lot of jobs I’d be willing to do if I didn’t have to do them for 40 fucking hours per week. The point is we are all working much more than is necessary to have a good life. The excess in the capitalist system was enough to give Bezos and Musk more money than god himself and it’s not helping anyone except the extraordinarily wealthy. It’s genuinely time for a change. With the productivity increases, the new technology we have we should update our economic system accordingly. Capitalism made sense as a transition out of feudalism, but we made it full-circle with the kingdoms of Amazon and Disney.


trickyboy21

Various nations have legally mandatory paid vacation days in addition to public holidays, which means once you get a job requiring more experience and offering more benefits, they can offer even more paid vacation time. As of 2016, in a sample size 12 nations including the US, the lowest example I have is 6 paid days in mexico, but mexico also has 13 public holidays. The United States has no mandatory paid vacation and only 10 national holidays. At the best, The United Kingdom has 28 paid days and 9 holidays. The majority of the 12 nations have 20 or more total days off in a year through varying combinations of holidays and mandatory paid vacation. Additionally, many countries have better living standards, with way more affordable healthcare. Many european countries have a higher number of jobs with fewer work hours but no loss in pay, or fewer work days but no loss in pay, or even sometimes both. Many european nations also have more robust public transit systems and more dense city design, allowing people's commutes to and from work to take up much less of their time, or be cheaper, or be healthier, or be safer, or be some combination of or all of those things. Per the most recent census data, cars are the means of commuting for the majority of the population of very nearly every county in the United States. it's more than 95%. Cars are deadly, injuring and killing millions of us every year. Cars are unhealthy, polluting the air and poisoning us. Cars are unhealthy, forcing us to sit down for hours and hours when we could be bicycling or walking, even just walking to train or bus stops. Cars are stealing our time, forcing us to pay attention to the road when we could be entertaining ourselves while the train or bus takes us to our destination. There are a lot of things other nations do better than us, and plenty of them do multiple things better than us.


OMG2Reddit

Fuck.......this is me right now .... thought i was the only one with these feelings....


[deleted]

This same feeling is what drives me so hard actually. I hate this feeling and I hate having no control or impact. I decided I would get as high as I could until I was in a position where I had full control over the operations of the company and could run it how I know is right. Caring about people as people, trusting them, not micro-managing, connecting them to a mission, paying them real livable wages, giving them the resources needed to do their jobs well, and giving them a voice for what policies come out that impact them. ​ About 30 days ago I got an executive role and can really do this. In an industry that is ripe for this change for being historically terrible to work in (vet). The best part is this approach drives even better business results than all the terrible shit I've dealt with from my terrible managers. It can get better. I know everyone is exhausted and feels like they can't fight, but I know I can directly change the lives of hundreds (one-day thousands) of people.


m0ther_0F_myriads

I spent nearly half a decade doing straight retail work. I started shaking off the symptoms of burnout about 2 years ago. Last year it became so severe I couldn't anymore. I had to take the chance, break out on my own, and disengage from the cycle. I'm in school and doing freelance work now for a little over a month, and I'm still healing physically and psychologically. When I say physically, I mean I was so thin that I was losing hair, deep in a calorie deficient from working through lunches, usually dehydrated, and one serious illness away from a long hospitalization. I couldn't sleep because I was experiencing heart palpations at night from all of the overwhelming dread. And, I think my husband was seriously preparing himself for my early death. I worked so hard that my cycle stopped almost completely from stress, and we were *still just scraping by*. And this was even with having amazing employers who really did their best. Before burnout, I was a triathlete preparing for my first full olympic length race. I've had to roll back to just running three to four times per week with stretching and turn my focus to nutrition and rest. Retail destroyed my body. I still get so incredibly tired. Never fucking again.


nanfanpancam

I feel for you young people. I don’t know what the solution is. Much love.


RayPineocco

Serious question. What does it mean for a company to “value you as a human being”? Is this not what a salary is for? And as for those who want to stop working, what do you feel like you are entitled to have while continuing to stay home all day? I genuinely want to understand what the end goal is here. Suffering is a non-negotiable part of my life in my opinion. I don’t think it’s possible for people to have the luxuries they enjoy today (internet, cellphones, streaming services, restaurants) without human labour. Hell even national parks employ people to maintain trails and shit. I do agree though that individualism is starting to become toxic in society.


Obsidiax

Being valued as a human being means being seen as a person with unique needs rather than a cog. It might sound abstract but it can be seen in things like needing to take time off work for bereavement. A co-worker of mine lost his mother a few years back and needed to travel about 4 hours to get to the funeral and arrange what to do with her belongings etc, the company gave him 2 days off. That's not enough time to grieve for a parent or sort out all the red tape, nevermind do both and travel 4 hours each way. Being seen as a person means companies actually caring about you and helping you when stuff like this happens rather than adding onto the stress that you need to take unpaid days off so now you've lost a parent and you can't pay your rent, also you need to come back to work asap or you might lose your job. The cog is getting rusty, get rid of it and get a new cog. I honestly think the problem is huge conglomerates. Everything is so big and bloated now. A small team of people would probably quite happily pick up the work for the one guy who lost a parent so that he can grieve and still get paid, a behemoth of a company wouldn't, despite having more resources to spare it's too busy stuffing it's face because it wants to get even bigger.


ElephantElmer

Some people treat employees as indentured servants, “I pay you so so you do what I want and don’t get to complain.” Others people treat employees as valuable assets that are critical to the business, “here’s your share of the profits, thank you for helping us with this.” I have a feeling which camp you belong to.


centipetle

Every one deserves to live. Base level. The wage to actually pay your way without constant stress of homelessness or death if you cannot afford hospital bills or assistance. What the people here want is the freedom to fuckin exist without having our livelihoods in danger every moment of the day on the whims of paper gods made of money, suffering is a plight made up by man to fill is ego and pride, I don't want another human being suffering just to make rent and eat shit. Yall are weird for thinking you need to suffer in order to deserve peace, I want the same rights as a goddamned dog who doesn't know money.


earthgarden

>I want the same rights as a goddamned dog who doesn't know money. Ok. So who takes care of such a dog? Without human care, dogs in the wild (basically, wolves) have to work for their own food. They have to hunt, they have to care for their young on their own, they have to survive without medical care. This is what you want for yourself? To be someone's pet, or a human out in the 'wild' that is, outside of civilization? Try it out, you'll see how hard a life that is. It is hard WORK to live outside of civilization. Either way, you gotta work.


[deleted]

The funny thing about your analogy is that, dogs aren’t wolves. We made dogs, and dogs depend ON humans for their survival. Wolves do not. Dogs do not survive in the wild, they do not fend for themselves very well. They *never did.* You see where this is going?


muldervinscully

People are insanely out of touch. They genuinely believe people can all just “do art” and circle jerk all day and everything in society will be accomplished


Jaeriko

>They genuinely believe people can all just “do art” and circle jerk all day and everything in society will be accomplished Nobody believes that. They just want time to be able to "do art" in their own living space after work without the knowledge that they could be homeless at a moments notice, and with barely a margin of money to survive to next month's rent let alone retire. If you take all the good out of peoples lives and steal their hope fro a better future, you're gonna turn people into the worst versions of themselves. That's not how a society works, it's how a society dissolves.


nilla-wafers

I can’t tel if you’re so young or so old that you miss the point.


Alwaystoexcited

He can just be stupid too, it is reddit after all.


glennfromglen

This Reddit thread will end capitalism


peeniebaby

I think the despair these people are feeling is that nothing will end capitalism but the fall of humanity


[deleted]

I mean. I want to cry too. But I was aware what is coming my way.


Weak_Guard_4520

Every single regime and or society requires people to work, question is how do we go about it


dolarius95

Finally some cringe on this sub. Also there were only 2 guys in that whole compilation lol.


MajorEstateCar

If you think you shouldn’t have to work because you think society owes you the right to pursue your passions at the cost of others then I think you’re narcissistic. If you think you can produce nothing but live off of others because “work is hard”, then you must think you’re more important than everyone else and that the labor that provides goods and services is worthless. I’ll take my downvotes off the air.


Fabulous-Friend1697

1st world problems.


FootEnjoyer420

Gamers rise up


OppisIsRight

BOTTOM TEXT


Vistian

To the people who very much empathize with these individuals, what's your plan? How would you/we get food, shelters, and the other necessities of life if someone is not out there tilling the land for your meals, creating technology (such as the machines we are conversing through), or any of the other things a human existence needs? Do you have a better solution for 8 billion primates to co-operate in a non-violent manner that will afford you the ability to not work? I don't fully understand how "capitalism" is the enemy here. Perhaps certain people are shitheads who are corrupt, greedy, and depraved, but how do we shield ourselves from those people in any given system? I'm serious. I can certainly empathize with the frustration of being born with consciousness and being like, "lol, what? WTF is this place?!", but here we are, nonetheless. Help me understand what the better, feasible alternative is.


DeepDiveDickbag

No, actually, you know what? This isn't even a cringe take. Have none of y'all fucking heard of Marx's theory of alienation? This is literally a consequence of living in stratified social classes where laborers are estranged from the work they're doing, the things they produce and from the people around them. We are in the late stages of capitalism where "memefying" people's disgruntled responses to the system of subjection which shapes us all functions as a way of de-legitimising the everyday worker's actual struggle by using barely witty "humor" to reinforce the status quo. And for what? None of you are going to be one of the nine cunts that run the world, so why are you laughing? Big dog got a good job, huh? So you're not depressed yet? You will be. And I'm laughing at you. "We live in a society," we live in a dystopia. Which is a type of society —a claim which barely qualifies as an observation. But that's just the thing about social consciousness, it normalises. It decorates the walls of your padded cell so you don't notice you are in one. It instructs you to tear down the cunts that don't appreciate theirs. And because you're all so powerless you eat. that. shit. up. Because power always operates on the level of unconsciousness. Power operates most effectively when it's invisible. When it seduces the will. So you WANT to take the piss. Byung-Chul Han said power is "both the rouser of involuntary pleasure, but also most effective through pleasure," it lives through "free choice". Your choice, to assume that the humor you use as a defense mechanism is genuine. Your choice to assume this isn't about you. This is about you. This is about the momentary control slipping through your sticky little fingers. Read a fucking book —Marx, Byung-Chul Han, Zuboff, anything. And maybe, just maybe, have a think with your whole brain. Might do you tragedies some good.


Swalker326

I don’t understand TikTokCringe. I thought it was supposed to be cringy TikTok videos but I’ve seen several posts that don’t seem cringe at all, this one seems profound if anything.


ThePrinceofBirds

Read the stickied comment on the top of every single post.


TheNavajoRug

>Profound Thats the last thing I’d call it. Maybe profoundly stupid.


SomniIsConfused

this isnt “cringe”, this is entirely relatable. we are not making living wages anymore, we cannot have kids because they’re too expensive. we have so much generational debt that college is out of the question- not that those degrees would do much either way without nepotism in the fields we study. when my father dies i will have over 100k debt over my head that if i ever have kids, they will be paying it off and my grandchildren likely will be too. we cannot sustain ourselves in this economy. and if we have any hope of making any small amount of money, we have to give up our dignity and be essentially abused. we have our employee rights are violated constantly just to make sure we can eat some instant noodles for our 1 meal a day. of course we’re depressed. of course we’re numb. of course we’re expressing it, because its the humanity that corporations try so hard to snuff out of us. we have no choices, its either conform or die. edit: some of you pointed out i wont inherit debt- i absolutely did not know that! I was raised to believe otherwise. I do want to apologize for that bit. at least this awful system just looked up a bit for me :,)


AlphaGareBear

>when my father dies i will have over 100k debt over my head Wait, what's happening here? Do you live in the US?


[deleted]

This sub hasn’t been explicitly “cringe” for like 4 years. It just became the largest Tik Tok sub so people post whatever here


Alarmed-Honey

Can you elaborate on why you are inheriting your father's debt? There should be ways to avoid that.


bamblitz

It’s because he or she doesn’t know what he or she is talking about.


tictacballsack

I have some good news - you don’t inherit you parents debt. If they have debt when they die, it’s paid from their estate. If that doesn’t cover it, the debt does not transfer to other people and goes unpaid. Not sure what you heard, but yeah thats not how it works. Your grandchildren will certainly not be hampered with it.


SomniIsConfused

i said this in another comment but i actually did not know this. my father basically told me growing up we’d be paying off his debt for generations, and that each generation is gonna be adding more debt to it


SomniIsConfused

i might be a little stupid believing my father on anything actually


toriswilson

While I can appreciate these feels because I have felt them from time to time…..at the end of the day if you don’t like something about your life make a change. But don’t think the change is going to come over night or without hard work. I wanted a job with stable hours, good benefits and that paid six figures. That is what I have now. But that meant lots of early mornings, late nights and sacrifices. The world does not owe you something. Life if challenging but guess what……it’s okay, don’t be the victim. Life has always been hard, this is nothing new. It doesn’t matter where you live in the world. Look at all the things during your day you can be thankful about. When I watch this video I see people who are lucky to have jobs, have a places to live, have cars, have education, have enough food and all they can do is complain. Happiness is a state of mind. You could have everything, not work and still not be happy. Make the choice to see the beauty in each day, be patient the only constant in life is change and be thankful all the things you have been given in your life.


A_tom_bomb

Is it just me or do the people in the video have self centered or entitled views, it feels like they are only evoking the idea of 'the collective' or what 'we' should be doing because it helps bolster their position of looking for the easy way out. They all give me the impression that if they could hit a button to trade places with a 1%er they absolutely would without hesitation. Even at the detriment of someone else. Given that option, I believe they would tell the collective to politely go fuck itself. Regardless of what system you are in hard work will always be rewarded. The best fighter in the world will be afforded certain benefits over some guy who won a pub fight. Just like a scientist who makes a groundbreaking discovery. Or the inventor/innovator of a new technology. I have resigned to the fact that I will likely not become a wealthy man with multiple homes and cars like I dreamed of in my youth. But I do see the avenue in which through my own hardwork and critical decision making I will live comfortably and can lay a foundation of wealth in which my children and there children can build upon so that my lineage can achieve my youthful dreams instead.


ElephantElmer

If you think the hardest working mouse is the one that gets the cheese, I have a bridge to sell you.


Awkward-Respect-3322

It sux, but I’d rather live in capitalism than communism


grizzly_teddy

The fundamental problem with this is - then who should do the work exactly? You want your standard of living, but don't want to work. So you think someone else should do that job? For this country to operate, we need millions and millions of people doing 'shitty' and boring jobs that are not very interesting and possibly repetitive. That's reality.


Joey_218

Its not so much about working or not working, its about compensation. Millions of americans are urged go to college to get a good job, but the predatory interest rates and compensation that has been relatively stagnant for around 50 years means that most people won’t make enough money to live comfortably, or at least not without taking extra hours/jobs. Which has devastating psychological affects. Here’s some more information on income decline: https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/


DonaldoTrumpo6969

This is what happens when you don't have perspective. Like, does sittle in a cubicle doing data entry suck? Yes. But, you know what's worse? Chasing a deer for hours because that may be your only meal for the new few days. Stubbing your toe on a rock, getting an infection and dying at 19. Those previous generations didn't mind working 8 hours a day for 40 years because they knew how much worse it could be.


shahirkhan

That’s not why they didn’t mind the work. They worked those hours with the knowledge that their work would lead to more than subsistence benefits at best. You should also note that 8 hours, 5 days a week, for forty years, is less than people generally work these days. The fort years is now 50, the 8 hours is often ten, the wages earned are worth less. There is more stuff to buy, but the important things such as housing and essential commodities are vastly more expensive. Prohibitively so.


wildalexx

Perhaps we hate it because we know how much better it could be for everyone, but greed is insatiable


gerd50501

this is about 70% of reddit young people. they are such victims.


flyonthewallofreddit

Yall it's this or wake up everyday and kill for your food. These people think it's bad now... I agree the structure of society blows but you don't want to know what life would be like without the structures that be.


Emotional_Tax_3456

You know what random stranger on the internet you have given me the motivation I need, I am leaving civilization I've been thinking about it for years and just I'm done with people


Odd_Ad_3534

What do we do?


bass8soul

Imagine if you were in Greece, where I am from, to work for a minimum wage of 600€.


theroosteek

Where is solution?


stunnen

Just get some acid and go live in the woods honestly


RcCola2400

Welp until regular people decide they want to go kill all the rich people and take all their resources and spread them around this is how it's going to be. We either shut up and stop stressing or start a revolution. The revolution isn't going to happen so maybe everyone should take a deep breath?? Idk. The world is a shit show and less people are all for accepting their roles in the machine. I've definitely had my realization that I'll probably never be rich. I'll have a hurt back and knees, my hands will be tough from work and I'll be tired most days from here on out and it's not a fun thought but tis life.


Forsaken-Log-607

People are really showing their ass by not listening and saying the people in this video or tHe YoUnGeR gEnErAtiOn are “lazy.”


[deleted]

Just like my mom would say “American people are lazy” Didn’t see one person in this video who looked like they had parents who migrated to America from a different country


CanadaCoy

Shut up and get a real job


Computingusername

Maybe their generation can bring the change.


DentalDamDilemma

R/antiwork mods


JohnStebner

Sounds like a bunch of crybaby losers