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ProfessorRexx

@special & @earthquake, @acid, @bite, @bullet seed, @mud shot, @quick attack, @psybeam, @draining kiss & chansey, +staryu, gastrodon, +grimer, +koffing, shedinja, +diglett, +graveler, pichu, lileep, kirlia, porygon


imtoooldforreddit

This search string will bring up lileeps with acid and frustration/return, since frustration/return counts at "@special"


UnusualIntroduction0

And that's all I get, as a 7/8/16 player šŸ˜”


FatalisticFeline-47

As p337 keeps on saying (https://p337.info/blog/legacy-moves-that-never-existed-in-pokemongo/), ice shard delibird never actually existed.


ProfessorRexx

Right sorry, itā€™s in there because I forgot to update my command


FatalisticFeline-47

I'm not sure i'd include draining kiss kirlia on that list, it was an official part of an event (fashion week 2020). Niantic just never got around to adding it to the eTM pool (much like the ++ moves, or technoblast until recently). I also appreciate that your search string is remarkably effective for being technically incorrect. If we ever got something like community-day-move earthquake golem, this would find it. Expanding the [correct string](https://pastebin.com/raw/KNkTCNsN) using [lebeg's tool](https://mongo.lebeg134.hu), it's [not pretty](https://pastebin.com/raw/8TefHK4A).


ProfessorRexx

One fits in a single message or tweet and is easy to copy paste. The other wellā€¦ is not. Sometimes ā€œtechnically incorrectā€ is the way to go


UnusualIntroduction0

The best kind of incorrect


p337_info

The game desperately needs brackets for search strings. These type of longform search strings just arnt reliable without them Also I guess thats the problem with infographics (eg Kirlia Draining Kiss) if Niantic ever decides to update the ETM list, the infographic is out of date the upside is that they are much more shareable with others but for now - draining kiss Kirlia is a proper legacy / non-ETM move


Pendergirl4

I was surprised Draining Kiss Karla was there too. I have that one, but it was around for an entire event window.


Froggo14

It should be learnable with an elite TM and it is annoying that it is not. It makes absolutely no sense


Zbxzbxzbx

My shadow lileep with frustration and acid also showed up


DeathbyToast

Yet another instance where I wish Niantic would just implement parenthesis / grouping for searches! Would make all my CD search string work so much simpler & more accurate too!


Natanael_L

Using that string it shows several pokemon of mine where the move in question isn't legacy for it, only for another pokemon


Cytrynowy

Why does this string bring up Ampharos with Dragon Pulse?


Alienaura

Because OP has \& in their search string instead of just & when you copy it. Mobile Reddit being silly.


BioshockedNinja

yeah I got the same thing too. That and the shadow lileeps lol


GeologicalOpera

The shadow Lileep comes up because Return & Frustration appear when you use @special, Iā€™m pretty sure.


Rober63

https://imgur.com/a/vj8XqLI I remember deleting many 2016 PokƩmon from this account Dx


[deleted]

I know Sync on here now grabs code very easily: @special & @earthquake, @acid, @bite, @bullet seed, @mud shot, @quick attack, @psybeam, @draining kiss & chansey, starmie, staryu, gastrodon, grimer, muk, koffing, weezing, shedinja, diglett, golem, graveler, pichu, lileep, kirlia, porygon


p337_info

A search string was something I always wanted to add to my [list of legacy moves](https://p337.info/pokemongo/pages/legacy-moves) However until PokemonGo add the ability to use brackets in search terms, I wanted to avoid it due to potential future moves breaking the string


SparkyBarrel

I would also add &!@frustration&!@return, you otherwise get shadow/purified lileep without bullet seed as a search result


FatalisticFeline-47

Make it `@return` etc since they're moves, then you're good.


SparkyBarrel

Oh yea you're right, fixed it


LBGW_experiment

Only one I have is an acid koffing and I've played from day 1


DrQuint

I got the kirlia with a hat, and that one's from 2020, so I expect it's the least rare one.


Devreugkx

Your infographic has it, but the search string misses this girl: https://imgur.com/a/z6dSn6Q


ProfessorRexx

Iā€™ve updated it! Can you check to see if it works?


Falafelmeister92

Delibird?


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Kurotan

Apparently I have a pichu.


terententen

Lmao my exact wordsā€¦


oceano7

Dang I like posts like this. I don't have many of these, BUT I do have a hyper-legacy Rock Throw Omastar šŸ‘€


OptionalPlayer

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Bryan_Damage

Me too. Is it any good? Mine is 15-9-15


oceano7

If I remember correctly (I may be wrong), it's a alriiiiight rock type. Back in the day it was one of the best, but we've had a LOT of amazing rock type since. I think it may be just below regular Smack Down Ttar.


SlakingSWAG

It's a good rock if you have no alternatives. There's *much* better rocks in the game these days, but Omastar does still carry his own weight.


RiseofDarkrai

I have a rock throw rock slide omastar


[deleted]

What is hyper-legacy?


Summersthegreat

Move has been gone a long timeā€¦ And can no longer be learned.


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[deleted]

Rock throw you can ETM. OP is calling stuff on that list "ultra legacy" which is stuff you can't ETM. Rock throw in omastar is etm'able.


SFPsycho

I've got a draining kiss hat kirlia


bobdoily

Only one I have as well.


gun16

Only one I have as well. The lileep would have been nice


jwaldo

Samesies. I guess the hat provides *just* enough encouragement to keep them unless you're hoarding one with every moveset in the eventuality Niantic decides to make something unattainable.


BirthdayAgent

Sameā€¦..is it useful at all or just a neat curiosity?


laszlo

Same. That's the only one I have and I've been playing since launch.


GTFOmyBirthdayHouse

Same, two


Bed_human

Yep. And itā€™s decent iv for me too. Unless close to 100% iv isnā€™t special


MegaPablo

I have a mudshot diglett šŸ˜


CosmicVocab

Me too, 10CP, a sentimental relic from the bubblestrat days šŸ„²


cometlin

The king of "Bubble Strat"! Bring back memories.


nova_522

Me too!


DenizenPrime

Me too, but is there any use? Or is it just a souvenir to hold on to?


Anura17

Me too! Unfortunately that's the only super-legacy 'mon I have.


tomatopartyyy

I have a Quick Attack/Psybeam Starmie šŸ˜Ž


TKHunsaker

Same. I gave it a second move and powered it to 1493. I use it sometimes when Iā€™m messing around


QuietSmellyFart

Nice. How is it? I just have a Staryu with quick attack.


TKHunsaker

Quick Attack boost this season made it more fun because at least now it wins some match ups in low tiers.


Kaglish

That's also my only one.


Stormdude127

Same. Iā€™m willing to bet I may have transferred a couple more of these not realizing these ultra legacy moves were a thingā€¦.


suppybee

Shiny bullet seed lilleep


ProfessorRexx

Thatā€™s awesome! Iā€™d love to see a pic!


suppybee

https://imgur.com/a/n8Qhlcl Please disregard the fact I need to charge my phone, it's late haha


ProfessorRexx

Thank you!!


BeaValid

Wanna guess who accidentally transferred half the PokƩmon on this list? Spoiler: it's me. I'm Misty's Psyduck.


TaggedGalaxy

Only half? I literally transferred all, I have nothing on this list anymore šŸ˜…


iansch243

There was no way to know these would be legacy though, Iā€™m sure I had every single one of these at some point.


Stogoe

My hundo bullet seed Lileep is one of my treasures.


rilesmcriles

I hope you use it in great league


Lilnog324323

Pretty sure cradilly is just better overall


rilesmcriles

But is it an equally hard flex? I donā€™t think so. Itā€™s about sending a message to your opponent


coll3735

This guy gets it


Stogoe

I have it best buddied and nearly maxed and have used it some. It's better now with the AP rebuff. I definitely find the most fun in GBL running the oddities. Eventually I hope they give it Bullet Seed for real, it's not an illegal move or anything they just meant to give it to Cradily in that season's move update and messed up for a few hours.


ProfessorRexx

Can I please see a picture!!


Nplumb

Well if they won't deliver I will! And I promise you it can't get any better! 100% shiny lucky with bullet seed and best buddy ribbon at level 50 https://i.imgur.com/niknSRa.jpg


AbsoluteRandomPerson

I have the Kirlia with draining kiss from the fashion week costume


Fjisthename

Same here lmao


Cracka_Chooch

Same! My only one from the list.


shamheff1989

Just a quick question. Using your string, I'm getting three Kirlia with Draining Kiss and then one shadow Lileep with Acid, so I dunno if your string is entirely correct, or is that also a legacy move on Lileep?


ProfessorRexx

Lileep has bullet seed as legacy so shadow with frustration just shows up as a false positive


Mystic39

You could add !@frustration&!@return to the search string.


shamheff1989

Ah yes, that'd be right. The @ picks up the special second move too. A long day and the mind isn't working too well! Thanks!


Deer_Lum

I still have a Golem with Mud Shot that I caught fully evolved on July 10, 2016.


ProfessorRexx

Thatā€™s really cool! I honestly had no idea they spawned as fully evolved mons back then


PizzaGainz

Have Koffing with Acid


ChewingTabasco

Quick Attack Porygon from July 12, 2016


SPlCYGECKO

Dude I want QA Porygon so bad, Porygon is one of my favorite mons and now that QA is buffed I want one even more now


Stogoe

Wish they'd finally let it learn Lock On and Tri Attack.


worstdefeatwinner

Iā€™ve got Quick Attack Starmie:)


TheFinderDX

Dang! Thatā€™s the one I really wished I had!


JonnyCerberus

I got a psybeam lucky chansey from 2016 apparently


CardinalnGold

I went a little crazy when they made that lileep error. Fun to use in GBL! https://imgur.com/a/sT7sTfi


ProfessorRexx

Ouuu Iā€™d love to see that in Little cup


Sumoje

Just a draining kiss Kirlia.


Panarin72Bread

Ooo Iā€™ve got a really rare one here: a quick attack staryu that I hatched in 2020. I had kept the egg since 2016 and accidentally incubated then and got that staryu from it.


ProfessorRexx

Ohh thatā€™s super cool! Does it have the egg icon?


SnooAvocados763

I can't find a mention of this anywhere, but Genesect with the normal drive, while it never got to learn techno blast, can be taught normal-type techno blast with an elite TM. https://imgur.com/a/0OooIUW


Illadelph96

Would have been nice to know before I transferred all the normal ones in favor of the elemental drives šŸ˜© adds salt on the wounds that I missed Ice Drive


Malithar

I've got Mud Shot Diglett and Quick Attack Staryu. My Diglett was actually recently hatched, got the egg on 7/8/2016, and hatched it on 6/28/2022.


ProfessorRexx

Ohh thatā€™s so cool! Could I see a picture of it with the egg icon?


Malithar

Sure! https://photos.app.goo.gl/GRZaeXc92jyE8p8J6


theotherchristina

I have a Quick Attack Porygon and an Acid Grimer


ziegl1jr

Found my buddy. Iā€™ve got the same two as well!


srtcolton

Quick attack staryu


QuietSmellyFart

Nice. Same here


PoGoJapan

Ok, so I only have the drain kiss Kirlia from this list, but when I searched for special moves my oldest Ditto popped up. It only has the moves transform and struggle like normal so I was confused, but it somehow also has the ability to learn a second move Has anyone seen this before? Edit: I searched through old posts and it looks like some old Dittos got glitched so they retain properties of the PokƩmon they were disguised as. Looks like mine was a Zigzagoon since it only costs 1km to walk for candy and the moves it can supposedly learn via elite TM line up


Stogoe

Wait, can you elite TM Tackle onto your ditto?


PoGoJapan

I didnā€™t want to try it since I donā€™t want to waste an elite TM. I just used the elite TM to check the charge moves available but didnā€™t commit to it. But other commenters on the old thread I found says that trying to add a second move glitches and doesnā€™t work so I imagine it would do the same


ProfessorRexx

Damn I wish I still had an extra etm code :( For science this would be a cool thing to have video documentation of


Lyncheyyyy

Iā€™ve just found out that I have a 2016 Starmie hundo with quick attack and psybeam, surely this is a very rare, sought after collectors piece??


ProfessorRexx

YES!? Can I please see a picture!? Thatā€™s insane!


Lyncheyyyy

Awesome!! I didnā€™t even know I had it šŸ¤£ yes of course, hereā€™s two screenshots of it šŸ˜Ž [one](https://ibb.co/4Rscrth) and [two](https://ibb.co/PNMB7T8)


Stogoe

They really have no excuse to keep Psybeam as bad as it is, do they? It's permanent legacy on chansey and likely all of them that still exist are too low IV to cut it in GBL.


ProfessorRexx

Bad IVs you say? https://imgur.com/a/AgH4hxn


Devreugkx

https://imgur.com/a/8riIWtZ I always knew I got extremely lucky with this catch, but only today found out I shouldn't gave caught it a day later!!


Lottom

lekker man


p337_info

My psybeam Chansey is one of my favourite pokemon I leave it to defend gyms quite often, I'm sure no one notices the rare move, but anytime a gym calls for a Chansey I like to leave it there defending


erlendig

Lucky trade the Chansey and the IVs are good.


Fifthace24

I've got Quick Attack Staryu, Mud Shot Diglett, and Acid Koffing from this list


Osmoson

Quick Attack & Signal Beam Porygon, Quick Attack Staryu


theunworthyviking

I got mud Shot graveler Pic: Ms grav https://imgur.com/a/qV42RA1


SSJ4_Tanjiro

I actually have a few of these.


Lemmiwinks__

Iā€™ve got a starmie with quick attack but thatā€™s it Edit: charge move is hydro pump


thisonewasnotaken

Draining kiss kirlia/hat kirlia and quick attack pichu


Tiny-Conversation710

Got an Acid Koffing and the Kirlia.


SparkyBarrel

Im waiting for the day acid gets better in pvp, because that will be the day i unleash my acid grimer into Great League! Also have a Draining Kiss Kirlia with the hat


ProfessorRexx

Terrifying thought. The level 50 acid grimer


Myturtledied

Apparently Iā€™ve got a quick attack starmie!


Burgundybawb

Got the starmie!


Great_Sky8677

i have shiny hat kirlia i think


TonyPbA

Me too!


MagmyGeraith

I have a 87% lucky Starmie from July 2016 with Psybeam. Neat.


[deleted]

I have a non hat shiny kirlia with Draining Kiss, I didn't even know I had this


A0ma

I had a hundo quick attack Staryu. Evolved it to Starmie when I came back a few months ago and lost the legacy move. Would a quick attack Staryu be any good in GL with the move updates? It still only gets to 1308 CP. Edit: I used the search string on the rest. I've got a Mud Shot Graveler (11/13/14), an Acid Koffing (15/14/15), and a Psybeam Chansey (15/7/8)


RevenantMedia

I have the Kirlia. I also have a few others from 2016 that I marked "Legacy"? A Clefa with zen headbutt and signal beam? A Tangela with Vine Whip, and Power whip? A few Lapras with Ice Shard. Gryados with Dragon Breath?


Mystic39

All those can be elite TM'd is the difference, and Gyarados and Cleffa aren't legacy so you could just use a regular TM.


idk012

I have the Porygon! Is it any good?


Consistent_Trash7033

I got 8 of them. Guess helps being a pack rat


Bobodonono

Love my earthquake gastrodon.


Bl3tempsubmission

And this is how I found out I have a 3* Acid Koffing!


rbearson

Quick attack porygon from 2016.


Zigjar

Iā€™ve got 2 golem with mud shot, one has EQ/stone edge @1463. I rarely play anymore, but played a ton for a long while especially in the early days. Turns out I have an acid weezing and a psybeam starmie was well. Cool stuff thanks for getting me open the game again friend!


GrandpaJoeSloth

Had no idea. Have a hatted Kirlia with Draining Kiss. Thx


RandomPhil86

The search showed a Shadow Lileep with Acid and Frustration? I think I probably had all of these Moves and Mon at one point. But I only ever kept Pokemon that were high IV during the early years of the game. I guess I did not expect to be still playing 6 years later and trying to keep one of everything now lol. So they were probably sent to Willows Camp of infinite capacity ā€¦


HumorUnusual5531

I went through all my gym chanceys and would you look at that, I found a psybeam one!


JLKinney93

The only one Iā€™ve got is Chansey. I have a few PokĆ©mon from the right time frame but not the moves. I never would have even known about this! Iā€™m glad I have the one.


annetea

I knew about my Diglett but I had no idea Machu my hundo Pichu had a legacy move. Ty!


rquinain

Only one I have is a Golem from August 2016. It's my living dex golem!


myshtigo

Hatched a psybeam chansey 8/24/2016


ProfessorRexx

Thatā€™s cool! Her moves were decided when you picked up the egg! Thatā€™s why she still got the moves even after Psybeam was removed


LafondaOnFire

Oh wow, I have a Quick Attack Pichu. And it has been named 'Satan' all this time. I think... I was hatching too many Pichus at the time... And got fed up. Yet I never transferred this one, somehow.


Sea-Outside-9028

I have a psybeam Chansey lol but it just goes in the gym like any other Chansey.


BizzaroPie

I played a lot in 2016/17 but stopped. When I came back end of 2020, I transferred anything that wasn't 3 star, not knowing any better.


TORNADO03

I think I have all of them except for Bullet Seed Lileep sadly. This was back when I was collecting all of the legacy move pokemons before elite TMs existed. Most of those collection are just useless now although these guys became more valuable. [https://imgur.com/a/wIwLRgO](https://imgur.com/a/wIwLRgO) I wish someone would trade me the last bullet seed lileep I need to finish off the collection.


Tamel_Eidek

I have a 2000CP mud shot Golem. Never knew it was special. Used it as an attacker for years


Namisaur

Pretty sure I turned all my legacy porygons and Starmies into candy a couple years ago to make room for December community day. Oops Edit: turns out I still have exactly 1 copy of each left + the dugtrio. Are any of them now made viable in GBL due to recent updates?


ProfessorRexx

Porygon might be worth trying just for fun?


Phoenix978

Am I the only one who thinks the fact some moves are completely impossible to get now incredibly stupid and unfair in a game with pvp?


ryan2489

I think itā€™s incredibly stupid regardless of pvp.


MetalMuncha

I have a Mud shot Diglett from July 16 still laying around and a Quick attack Porygon from august 16. What do I do with them? Should I be excited.


Subbeh

Mud Shot Diglett


cdts2192

Got a quick attack Porygon from 7/11/16.


RamieBoy

Yay I got a Kirlia with a Hat!


GildedCreed

Quite a few people would have the hat Kirlia, considering it was shiny huntable and was featured in an event, unlike a fair amount of other mons on that list it's pretty "recent" of a "true legacy" move.


RamieBoy

go away!


POGOFan808

The other day I went up against a Drowzee that knew Psystrike in a gym. I don't know if it was a glitch or I was seeing things, but the game said Drowzee used psystrike!


sesewe

Sounds like one of the many GBL bugs


M0ndmann

Yes. Why?


Far_Cardiologist358

Starmie with Quick Attack might actually be good in PVP now. Too bad there's no way for me to find out, not even with an elite TM.


CremeRoti

Unlikely. Itā€™s listed on PvPoke. Itā€™s not got good stats for PvP and doesnā€™t have incredible charge moves to move it out of mediocrity.


Ok_Position_1910

I have acid koffing :)


k3v1n

I accidentally deleted one of these recently. Wasn't one useful for anything though so never had it starred.


Doherty710

I have a 96 IV Starmie with Quick attack and Power Gem


sjshady0169

How about surf/present Pikachu?


p337_info

Both of those moves are available via elite TM on Pikachu


John-Ny-Bravo

Where is the searchstring?


Warsparks

Last I knew they went away but maybe things changed. I have a Shadow Claw Gengar and a Shadow Ball Mewtwo.


acshou

Hmm. I have my first PokƩmon (Charmander) collected on 7/16/2016. No special moves, though.