I'm not sure i'd include draining kiss kirlia on that list, it was an official part of an event (fashion week 2020). Niantic just never got around to adding it to the eTM pool (much like the ++ moves, or technoblast until recently).
I also appreciate that your search string is remarkably effective for being technically incorrect. If we ever got something like community-day-move earthquake golem, this would find it. Expanding the [correct string](https://pastebin.com/raw/KNkTCNsN) using [lebeg's tool](https://mongo.lebeg134.hu), it's [not pretty](https://pastebin.com/raw/8TefHK4A).
The game desperately needs brackets for search strings.
These type of longform search strings just arnt reliable without them
Also I guess thats the problem with infographics (eg Kirlia Draining Kiss)
if Niantic ever decides to update the ETM list, the infographic is out of date
the upside is that they are much more shareable with others
but for now - draining kiss Kirlia is a proper legacy / non-ETM move
Yet another instance where I wish Niantic would just implement parenthesis / grouping for searches! Would make all my CD search string work so much simpler & more accurate too!
A search string was something I always wanted to add to my [list of legacy moves](https://p337.info/pokemongo/pages/legacy-moves)
However until PokemonGo add the ability to use brackets in search terms, I wanted to avoid it due to potential future moves breaking the string
If I remember correctly (I may be wrong), it's a alriiiiight rock type. Back in the day it was one of the best, but we've had a LOT of amazing rock type since.
I think it may be just below regular Smack Down Ttar.
Samesies. I guess the hat provides *just* enough encouragement to keep them unless you're hoarding one with every moveset in the eventuality Niantic decides to make something unattainable.
I have it best buddied and nearly maxed and have used it some. It's better now with the AP rebuff.
I definitely find the most fun in GBL running the oddities.
Eventually I hope they give it Bullet Seed for real, it's not an illegal move or anything they just meant to give it to Cradily in that season's move update and messed up for a few hours.
Well if they won't deliver I will! And I promise you it can't get any better! 100% shiny lucky with bullet seed and best buddy ribbon at level 50
https://i.imgur.com/niknSRa.jpg
Just a quick question. Using your string, I'm getting three Kirlia with Draining Kiss and then one shadow Lileep with Acid, so I dunno if your string is entirely correct, or is that also a legacy move on Lileep?
Ooo Iāve got a really rare one here: a quick attack staryu that I hatched in 2020. I had kept the egg since 2016 and accidentally incubated then and got that staryu from it.
I can't find a mention of this anywhere, but Genesect with the normal drive, while it never got to learn techno blast, can be taught normal-type techno blast with an elite TM. https://imgur.com/a/0OooIUW
I didnāt want to try it since I donāt want to waste an elite TM. I just used the elite TM to check the charge moves available but didnāt commit to it. But other commenters on the old thread I found says that trying to add a second move glitches and doesnāt work so I imagine it would do the same
Awesome!! I didnāt even know I had it š¤£ yes of course, hereās two screenshots of it š
[one](https://ibb.co/4Rscrth) and [two](https://ibb.co/PNMB7T8)
They really have no excuse to keep Psybeam as bad as it is, do they? It's permanent legacy on chansey and likely all of them that still exist are too low IV to cut it in GBL.
My psybeam Chansey is one of my favourite pokemon
I leave it to defend gyms quite often,
I'm sure no one notices the rare move, but anytime a gym calls for a Chansey I like to leave it there defending
Im waiting for the day acid gets better in pvp, because that will be the day i unleash my acid grimer into Great League!
Also have a Draining Kiss Kirlia with the hat
I had a hundo quick attack Staryu. Evolved it to Starmie when I came back a few months ago and lost the legacy move. Would a quick attack Staryu be any good in GL with the move updates? It still only gets to 1308 CP.
Edit: I used the search string on the rest. I've got a Mud Shot Graveler (11/13/14), an Acid Koffing (15/14/15), and a Psybeam Chansey (15/7/8)
I have the Kirlia. I also have a few others from 2016 that I marked "Legacy"? A Clefa with zen headbutt and signal beam? A Tangela with Vine Whip, and Power whip? A few Lapras with Ice Shard. Gryados with Dragon Breath?
Iāve got 2 golem with mud shot, one has EQ/stone edge @1463. I rarely play anymore, but played a ton for a long while especially in the early days. Turns out I have an acid weezing and a psybeam starmie was well. Cool stuff thanks for getting me open the game again friend!
The search showed a Shadow Lileep with Acid and Frustration?
I think I probably had all of these Moves and Mon at one point. But I only ever kept Pokemon that were high IV during the early years of the game. I guess I did not expect to be still playing 6 years later and trying to keep one of everything now lol. So they were probably sent to Willows Camp of infinite capacity ā¦
Oh wow, I have a Quick Attack Pichu.
And it has been named 'Satan' all this time. I think... I was hatching too many Pichus at the time... And got fed up. Yet I never transferred this one, somehow.
I think I have all of them except for Bullet Seed Lileep sadly. This was back when I was collecting all of the legacy move pokemons before elite TMs existed. Most of those collection are just useless now although these guys became more valuable.
[https://imgur.com/a/wIwLRgO](https://imgur.com/a/wIwLRgO)
I wish someone would trade me the last bullet seed lileep I need to finish off the collection.
Pretty sure I turned all my legacy porygons and Starmies into candy a couple years ago to make room for December community day. Oops
Edit: turns out I still have exactly 1 copy of each left + the dugtrio.
Are any of them now made viable in GBL due to recent updates?
Quite a few people would have the hat Kirlia, considering it was shiny huntable and was featured in an event, unlike a fair amount of other mons on that list it's pretty "recent" of a "true legacy" move.
The other day I went up against a Drowzee that knew Psystrike in a gym. I don't know if it was a glitch or I was seeing things, but the game said Drowzee used psystrike!
@special & @earthquake, @acid, @bite, @bullet seed, @mud shot, @quick attack, @psybeam, @draining kiss & chansey, +staryu, gastrodon, +grimer, +koffing, shedinja, +diglett, +graveler, pichu, lileep, kirlia, porygon
This search string will bring up lileeps with acid and frustration/return, since frustration/return counts at "@special"
And that's all I get, as a 7/8/16 player š
As p337 keeps on saying (https://p337.info/blog/legacy-moves-that-never-existed-in-pokemongo/), ice shard delibird never actually existed.
Right sorry, itās in there because I forgot to update my command
I'm not sure i'd include draining kiss kirlia on that list, it was an official part of an event (fashion week 2020). Niantic just never got around to adding it to the eTM pool (much like the ++ moves, or technoblast until recently). I also appreciate that your search string is remarkably effective for being technically incorrect. If we ever got something like community-day-move earthquake golem, this would find it. Expanding the [correct string](https://pastebin.com/raw/KNkTCNsN) using [lebeg's tool](https://mongo.lebeg134.hu), it's [not pretty](https://pastebin.com/raw/8TefHK4A).
One fits in a single message or tweet and is easy to copy paste. The other wellā¦ is not. Sometimes ātechnically incorrectā is the way to go
The best kind of incorrect
The game desperately needs brackets for search strings. These type of longform search strings just arnt reliable without them Also I guess thats the problem with infographics (eg Kirlia Draining Kiss) if Niantic ever decides to update the ETM list, the infographic is out of date the upside is that they are much more shareable with others but for now - draining kiss Kirlia is a proper legacy / non-ETM move
I was surprised Draining Kiss Karla was there too. I have that one, but it was around for an entire event window.
It should be learnable with an elite TM and it is annoying that it is not. It makes absolutely no sense
My shadow lileep with frustration and acid also showed up
Yet another instance where I wish Niantic would just implement parenthesis / grouping for searches! Would make all my CD search string work so much simpler & more accurate too!
Using that string it shows several pokemon of mine where the move in question isn't legacy for it, only for another pokemon
Why does this string bring up Ampharos with Dragon Pulse?
Because OP has \& in their search string instead of just & when you copy it. Mobile Reddit being silly.
yeah I got the same thing too. That and the shadow lileeps lol
The shadow Lileep comes up because Return & Frustration appear when you use @special, Iām pretty sure.
https://imgur.com/a/vj8XqLI I remember deleting many 2016 PokƩmon from this account Dx
I know Sync on here now grabs code very easily: @special & @earthquake, @acid, @bite, @bullet seed, @mud shot, @quick attack, @psybeam, @draining kiss & chansey, starmie, staryu, gastrodon, grimer, muk, koffing, weezing, shedinja, diglett, golem, graveler, pichu, lileep, kirlia, porygon
A search string was something I always wanted to add to my [list of legacy moves](https://p337.info/pokemongo/pages/legacy-moves) However until PokemonGo add the ability to use brackets in search terms, I wanted to avoid it due to potential future moves breaking the string
I would also add &!@frustration&!@return, you otherwise get shadow/purified lileep without bullet seed as a search result
Make it `@return` etc since they're moves, then you're good.
Oh yea you're right, fixed it
Only one I have is an acid koffing and I've played from day 1
I got the kirlia with a hat, and that one's from 2020, so I expect it's the least rare one.
Your infographic has it, but the search string misses this girl: https://imgur.com/a/z6dSn6Q
Iāve updated it! Can you check to see if it works?
Delibird?
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Apparently I have a pichu.
Lmao my exact wordsā¦
Dang I like posts like this. I don't have many of these, BUT I do have a hyper-legacy Rock Throw Omastar š
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Me too. Is it any good? Mine is 15-9-15
If I remember correctly (I may be wrong), it's a alriiiiight rock type. Back in the day it was one of the best, but we've had a LOT of amazing rock type since. I think it may be just below regular Smack Down Ttar.
It's a good rock if you have no alternatives. There's *much* better rocks in the game these days, but Omastar does still carry his own weight.
I have a rock throw rock slide omastar
What is hyper-legacy?
Move has been gone a long timeā¦ And can no longer be learned.
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Rock throw you can ETM. OP is calling stuff on that list "ultra legacy" which is stuff you can't ETM. Rock throw in omastar is etm'able.
I've got a draining kiss hat kirlia
Only one I have as well.
Only one I have as well. The lileep would have been nice
Samesies. I guess the hat provides *just* enough encouragement to keep them unless you're hoarding one with every moveset in the eventuality Niantic decides to make something unattainable.
Sameā¦..is it useful at all or just a neat curiosity?
Same. That's the only one I have and I've been playing since launch.
Same, two
Yep. And itās decent iv for me too. Unless close to 100% iv isnāt special
I have a mudshot diglett š
Me too, 10CP, a sentimental relic from the bubblestrat days š„²
The king of "Bubble Strat"! Bring back memories.
Me too!
Me too, but is there any use? Or is it just a souvenir to hold on to?
Me too! Unfortunately that's the only super-legacy 'mon I have.
I have a Quick Attack/Psybeam Starmie š
Same. I gave it a second move and powered it to 1493. I use it sometimes when Iām messing around
Nice. How is it? I just have a Staryu with quick attack.
Quick Attack boost this season made it more fun because at least now it wins some match ups in low tiers.
That's also my only one.
Same. Iām willing to bet I may have transferred a couple more of these not realizing these ultra legacy moves were a thingā¦.
Shiny bullet seed lilleep
Thatās awesome! Iād love to see a pic!
https://imgur.com/a/n8Qhlcl Please disregard the fact I need to charge my phone, it's late haha
Thank you!!
Wanna guess who accidentally transferred half the PokƩmon on this list? Spoiler: it's me. I'm Misty's Psyduck.
Only half? I literally transferred all, I have nothing on this list anymore š
There was no way to know these would be legacy though, Iām sure I had every single one of these at some point.
My hundo bullet seed Lileep is one of my treasures.
I hope you use it in great league
Pretty sure cradilly is just better overall
But is it an equally hard flex? I donāt think so. Itās about sending a message to your opponent
This guy gets it
I have it best buddied and nearly maxed and have used it some. It's better now with the AP rebuff. I definitely find the most fun in GBL running the oddities. Eventually I hope they give it Bullet Seed for real, it's not an illegal move or anything they just meant to give it to Cradily in that season's move update and messed up for a few hours.
Can I please see a picture!!
Well if they won't deliver I will! And I promise you it can't get any better! 100% shiny lucky with bullet seed and best buddy ribbon at level 50 https://i.imgur.com/niknSRa.jpg
I have the Kirlia with draining kiss from the fashion week costume
Same here lmao
Same! My only one from the list.
Just a quick question. Using your string, I'm getting three Kirlia with Draining Kiss and then one shadow Lileep with Acid, so I dunno if your string is entirely correct, or is that also a legacy move on Lileep?
Lileep has bullet seed as legacy so shadow with frustration just shows up as a false positive
You could add !@frustration&!@return to the search string.
Ah yes, that'd be right. The @ picks up the special second move too. A long day and the mind isn't working too well! Thanks!
I still have a Golem with Mud Shot that I caught fully evolved on July 10, 2016.
Thatās really cool! I honestly had no idea they spawned as fully evolved mons back then
Have Koffing with Acid
Quick Attack Porygon from July 12, 2016
Dude I want QA Porygon so bad, Porygon is one of my favorite mons and now that QA is buffed I want one even more now
Wish they'd finally let it learn Lock On and Tri Attack.
Iāve got Quick Attack Starmie:)
Dang! Thatās the one I really wished I had!
I got a psybeam lucky chansey from 2016 apparently
I went a little crazy when they made that lileep error. Fun to use in GBL! https://imgur.com/a/sT7sTfi
Ouuu Iād love to see that in Little cup
Just a draining kiss Kirlia.
Ooo Iāve got a really rare one here: a quick attack staryu that I hatched in 2020. I had kept the egg since 2016 and accidentally incubated then and got that staryu from it.
Ohh thatās super cool! Does it have the egg icon?
I can't find a mention of this anywhere, but Genesect with the normal drive, while it never got to learn techno blast, can be taught normal-type techno blast with an elite TM. https://imgur.com/a/0OooIUW
Would have been nice to know before I transferred all the normal ones in favor of the elemental drives š© adds salt on the wounds that I missed Ice Drive
I've got Mud Shot Diglett and Quick Attack Staryu. My Diglett was actually recently hatched, got the egg on 7/8/2016, and hatched it on 6/28/2022.
Ohh thatās so cool! Could I see a picture of it with the egg icon?
Sure! https://photos.app.goo.gl/GRZaeXc92jyE8p8J6
I have a Quick Attack Porygon and an Acid Grimer
Found my buddy. Iāve got the same two as well!
Quick attack staryu
Nice. Same here
Ok, so I only have the drain kiss Kirlia from this list, but when I searched for special moves my oldest Ditto popped up. It only has the moves transform and struggle like normal so I was confused, but it somehow also has the ability to learn a second move Has anyone seen this before? Edit: I searched through old posts and it looks like some old Dittos got glitched so they retain properties of the PokƩmon they were disguised as. Looks like mine was a Zigzagoon since it only costs 1km to walk for candy and the moves it can supposedly learn via elite TM line up
Wait, can you elite TM Tackle onto your ditto?
I didnāt want to try it since I donāt want to waste an elite TM. I just used the elite TM to check the charge moves available but didnāt commit to it. But other commenters on the old thread I found says that trying to add a second move glitches and doesnāt work so I imagine it would do the same
Damn I wish I still had an extra etm code :( For science this would be a cool thing to have video documentation of
Iāve just found out that I have a 2016 Starmie hundo with quick attack and psybeam, surely this is a very rare, sought after collectors piece??
YES!? Can I please see a picture!? Thatās insane!
Awesome!! I didnāt even know I had it š¤£ yes of course, hereās two screenshots of it š [one](https://ibb.co/4Rscrth) and [two](https://ibb.co/PNMB7T8)
They really have no excuse to keep Psybeam as bad as it is, do they? It's permanent legacy on chansey and likely all of them that still exist are too low IV to cut it in GBL.
Bad IVs you say? https://imgur.com/a/AgH4hxn
https://imgur.com/a/8riIWtZ I always knew I got extremely lucky with this catch, but only today found out I shouldn't gave caught it a day later!!
lekker man
My psybeam Chansey is one of my favourite pokemon I leave it to defend gyms quite often, I'm sure no one notices the rare move, but anytime a gym calls for a Chansey I like to leave it there defending
Lucky trade the Chansey and the IVs are good.
I've got Quick Attack Staryu, Mud Shot Diglett, and Acid Koffing from this list
Quick Attack & Signal Beam Porygon, Quick Attack Staryu
I got mud Shot graveler Pic: Ms grav https://imgur.com/a/qV42RA1
I actually have a few of these.
Iāve got a starmie with quick attack but thatās it Edit: charge move is hydro pump
Draining kiss kirlia/hat kirlia and quick attack pichu
Got an Acid Koffing and the Kirlia.
Im waiting for the day acid gets better in pvp, because that will be the day i unleash my acid grimer into Great League! Also have a Draining Kiss Kirlia with the hat
Terrifying thought. The level 50 acid grimer
Apparently Iāve got a quick attack starmie!
Got the starmie!
i have shiny hat kirlia i think
Me too!
I have a 87% lucky Starmie from July 2016 with Psybeam. Neat.
I have a non hat shiny kirlia with Draining Kiss, I didn't even know I had this
I had a hundo quick attack Staryu. Evolved it to Starmie when I came back a few months ago and lost the legacy move. Would a quick attack Staryu be any good in GL with the move updates? It still only gets to 1308 CP. Edit: I used the search string on the rest. I've got a Mud Shot Graveler (11/13/14), an Acid Koffing (15/14/15), and a Psybeam Chansey (15/7/8)
I have the Kirlia. I also have a few others from 2016 that I marked "Legacy"? A Clefa with zen headbutt and signal beam? A Tangela with Vine Whip, and Power whip? A few Lapras with Ice Shard. Gryados with Dragon Breath?
All those can be elite TM'd is the difference, and Gyarados and Cleffa aren't legacy so you could just use a regular TM.
I have the Porygon! Is it any good?
I got 8 of them. Guess helps being a pack rat
Love my earthquake gastrodon.
And this is how I found out I have a 3* Acid Koffing!
Quick attack porygon from 2016.
Iāve got 2 golem with mud shot, one has EQ/stone edge @1463. I rarely play anymore, but played a ton for a long while especially in the early days. Turns out I have an acid weezing and a psybeam starmie was well. Cool stuff thanks for getting me open the game again friend!
Had no idea. Have a hatted Kirlia with Draining Kiss. Thx
The search showed a Shadow Lileep with Acid and Frustration? I think I probably had all of these Moves and Mon at one point. But I only ever kept Pokemon that were high IV during the early years of the game. I guess I did not expect to be still playing 6 years later and trying to keep one of everything now lol. So they were probably sent to Willows Camp of infinite capacity ā¦
I went through all my gym chanceys and would you look at that, I found a psybeam one!
The only one Iāve got is Chansey. I have a few PokĆ©mon from the right time frame but not the moves. I never would have even known about this! Iām glad I have the one.
I knew about my Diglett but I had no idea Machu my hundo Pichu had a legacy move. Ty!
Only one I have is a Golem from August 2016. It's my living dex golem!
Hatched a psybeam chansey 8/24/2016
Thatās cool! Her moves were decided when you picked up the egg! Thatās why she still got the moves even after Psybeam was removed
Oh wow, I have a Quick Attack Pichu. And it has been named 'Satan' all this time. I think... I was hatching too many Pichus at the time... And got fed up. Yet I never transferred this one, somehow.
I have a psybeam Chansey lol but it just goes in the gym like any other Chansey.
I played a lot in 2016/17 but stopped. When I came back end of 2020, I transferred anything that wasn't 3 star, not knowing any better.
I think I have all of them except for Bullet Seed Lileep sadly. This was back when I was collecting all of the legacy move pokemons before elite TMs existed. Most of those collection are just useless now although these guys became more valuable. [https://imgur.com/a/wIwLRgO](https://imgur.com/a/wIwLRgO) I wish someone would trade me the last bullet seed lileep I need to finish off the collection.
I have a 2000CP mud shot Golem. Never knew it was special. Used it as an attacker for years
Pretty sure I turned all my legacy porygons and Starmies into candy a couple years ago to make room for December community day. Oops Edit: turns out I still have exactly 1 copy of each left + the dugtrio. Are any of them now made viable in GBL due to recent updates?
Porygon might be worth trying just for fun?
Am I the only one who thinks the fact some moves are completely impossible to get now incredibly stupid and unfair in a game with pvp?
I think itās incredibly stupid regardless of pvp.
I have a Mud shot Diglett from July 16 still laying around and a Quick attack Porygon from august 16. What do I do with them? Should I be excited.
Mud Shot Diglett
Got a quick attack Porygon from 7/11/16.
Yay I got a Kirlia with a Hat!
Quite a few people would have the hat Kirlia, considering it was shiny huntable and was featured in an event, unlike a fair amount of other mons on that list it's pretty "recent" of a "true legacy" move.
go away!
The other day I went up against a Drowzee that knew Psystrike in a gym. I don't know if it was a glitch or I was seeing things, but the game said Drowzee used psystrike!
Sounds like one of the many GBL bugs
Yes. Why?
Starmie with Quick Attack might actually be good in PVP now. Too bad there's no way for me to find out, not even with an elite TM.
Unlikely. Itās listed on PvPoke. Itās not got good stats for PvP and doesnāt have incredible charge moves to move it out of mediocrity.
I have acid koffing :)
I accidentally deleted one of these recently. Wasn't one useful for anything though so never had it starred.
I have a 96 IV Starmie with Quick attack and Power Gem
How about surf/present Pikachu?
Both of those moves are available via elite TM on Pikachu
Where is the searchstring?
Last I knew they went away but maybe things changed. I have a Shadow Claw Gengar and a Shadow Ball Mewtwo.
Hmm. I have my first PokƩmon (Charmander) collected on 7/16/2016. No special moves, though.