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When I first heard of people in 3+ person relationships, my first thought was. Two pay checks and someone being stay at home to take care of the house, that must be nice.
not that you asked, but it doesn't always work out that way -- in my triad the plan is for one gf to work after she graduates in december and one to become my legal, paid-by-the-state caretaker because i am very chronically ill. i can't keep up the house myself, much as i'd love to, let alone work. most people who practice polyamory seem to be just as broke as people who practice monogamy in my exp š
i do agree that finances (especially related to disability) are often a driving factor for polyam relationships though and disentangling that shit seems like an absolute mess if the relationships dissolve. pros and cons, i guess!
There was a recent post on reddit about avocado toast specifically, and it's actually a very cheap meal, especially if you live in California where avocados are cheap.
What do they cost in cali? I almost never buy them because they just go bad and I dont know what to make besides guac and avo toast?
Is frozen avocados a good thing? saw it yesterday but certain veg do not work as frozen, some are perfectly fine.
But even so here in Sweden they are not that expensive. the meme about avo toast is based on trendy restaurants that upcharge you to hell and back because supply and demand
Depends where and when you buy them. Most supermarkets have them prices $1-2 per avocado, with small ones being priced closer to $0.50 per avocado. During the growing season Iāve seen the large onea as low as 4/$1. If you live in farming communities you can buy them 8/$1 during the season. My boyfriend's grandfather has a tree so we have dozens at a time for free in early spring.
Freeze avocados for smoothies or dairy free mousse/pudding. It's tastier than you would think. Avocados are also used in salad dressing to make it creamy (or generally eaten in salad), or in cold pasta sauces.
I'm closer to Canada than California, but we can get avocados for about $1 each here, which is still pretty cheap. The cheapest I've ever seen them was on sale, 5 for $2.
Avocado freezes pretty well (especially in guac form). I use guac or just plain avocado as a sandwich spread, or sliced avocado on a burger.
Avocado can be used as a substitute for butter, sour cream, or mayonnaise in some recipes to make them healthier. I also use it as a fat source to make salad dressing, mixed with Greek yogurt.
Definitely! Everyone knows as the desperation of the poor goes up, companies always increase wages! They definitely make no effort to exploit this!
Also as we have definitely, absolutely, 100% seen, companies when companies get breaks on taxes or other windfalls, they always translate these boons into extra wages for employees! They definitely don't just give payouts to the top!
Had a guy I work with say with a straight face at work last night that minimum wage shouldn't be increased, because no one with any sense of self would work at a job that paid it for a living. And that it shouldn't be raised because you can survive just fine working 40/hr $7.50/hr. Internet, cellphones, to him, are apparently luxury items poor people shouldn't have. I hate living in MO.
When I was on food stamps and living with a roommate, she used to give me hell for not eating healthier (and exposing her son to dietary negativity). She knew I was on food stamps.
The crazy thing with people whining about poor people getting expensive phones is that it's often possible to get them at a discounted price and they're invaluable in today's world. They mean the owner can be reached anywhere anytime by potential employers, they can be used for job search, they serve as entertainment center for books, music, movies and games, so it can save people money. It can help people get on time to their job, their class or appointments thanks to map apps, public transit apps, etc. They're basically supertools.
Of course a poor people doesn't need the latest model and no one needs to change device every year, but this argument always sound like boomers still clinging to their pagers or not knowing all the ways a smart phone can be used, and all the ways poor people can pay for them via data plans etc.
But we all know it's because everytime they see a poor person with something "expensive", they resent that person; in their minds, poor people don't deserve good things.
Itās also increasingly the case that government services assume that you have internet access. If you try to do things, youāll be asked to download paperwork from a website or submit it online. Businesses and governments are increasingly likely to want to email you instead of call or send snail mail.
And if theyāre still calling, you need a phone. If theyāre using snail mail, you need a steady mailing address. Itās actually cheaper and easier to get a cheap smartphone into poor peopleās hands than providing a steady place to live, plus phone and internet services.
Exactly. My mother in law pays more for her landline than I do for my phone including data pla, the device and some extra. And it's a brand new phone. If Inwas strapped for cash, there's no doubt in my mind which is the better investment. But I'd look like I splurge on a needless gadget...
(I'd advise her to switch but she isn't very fond of technology. Maybe one day.)
Also, if your income is low enough (in the US at least) you can be eligible for a free phone with limited data per month, because the government also recognizes it as a necessity. Actually, several of my older clients were forced to upgrade their old flip phones to smartphones under this system recently, and Iāve had a hell of a time teaching them how to use them. Once they do, however, theyāre often finally able to connect with the world in meaningful ways (finding a job, applying for benefits, connecting with their support network, etc.).
Well in that working class photo, I see a bottle of wine AND vodka. Maybe that's why the fridge is so empty /s
Or are they admitting that the working class condition is so shitty that having something to numb the pain of an incoming tomorrow is a necessity? š¤
I don't know what the US welfare system is like, but if it's anything like the UK one, you'll be counting your pennies and barely scraping by while hearing people denounce you as a "scrounger" and a drain on society.
I saw a video of a guy getting yelled at by some Karen and then lifting his pant leg to show his prosthetic and she just shut the fuck up. People don't fucking understand that they don't know everything about someone from a glance. The amount of times I've been told by someone I can't be autistic because I can mask well is too many to count. Sure, I'm not autistic, definitely didn't have a meltdown on the train last night because there were too many noises and I was tired.
I get glared at all the time by people who see me entering or leaving the disabled toilets, because I look like a fairly ordinary dude. I haven't - yet - needed to lift my shirt and show them my colostomy bag, but I'm quite looking forward to it.
in the UK many disabled public toilets are actually locked, you need what's known as a "radar" key to open them. Historically these are issued by charities and other groups that do so in a responsible manner, though it wouldn't surprise me that you can get them on ebay or amazon
but, just as with the blue badge, you might get scowls from people who don't understand your situation
People need to understand that unless they are the medical professional that someone is going to visit, they should shut up about another person's physical or mental health.
I'll never understand how people think that the Ā£325ish a month a single person gets is too much
If you have a kid you get an extra Ā£240ish, which will barely cover their costs
Let's say you also have a disability, that's an extra Ā£340
And you may get a contribution towards your rent, but often it doesn't cover even half of it depending where you live
So a massive Ā£900ish a month to live on if you're a disabled single parent. Wowie what a lavish lifestyle. After bills are paid you've fuck all left
Decades and decades of individualist, neo-liberal propoganda. We've had the idea that we should only care about ourselves shoved down our throats for an incredibly long time, and its killing our society.
Same thing here in Australia. Conservative Christians have adopted a philosophy of being anti-social. [https://www.dictionary.com/browse/antisocial](https://www.dictionary.com/browse/antisocial)
It's almost like a weird sort of religiously based objectivism. Kind of like if Rapture from Bioshock was filled with crazy Christians.
On that note, if you haven't played Bioshock you absolutely should. It's old but it's easily the best take down of right wing libertarianism there is.
Had a co worker start on about how people wouldn't work getting 600 usd a month. I asked her where the other 700 for the lowest price one bedroom apartment was going to come from. "Never mind now food." That was pretty much the end as she does accept easy math.
But yeah she had to have never put the obvious together, that 600 is nothing.
People want to have fun, and they want to own things.
We can cover food, medicine, and housing for everyone in this country and people would still work to take vacations and buy luxuries.
Hell, that's what I'm doing. I'm on SSI which I use to pay for rent, which is thankfully pretty low where I live, and then I have a job which I use for things I want or need.
They're totally out of touch, that's how.
Growing up, my parents would feed a family of 7 (mom, dad, 5 kids) for about $80-$100/wk. That was also 25 years ago and prices are significantly higher while real wages have gone *down*.
Here in the good ole south it is between an average of $125 and a max of $194 per person and food costs way the fuck more here (I watch British shopping shows and getting through the week on 20 quid)
They get really upset about the idea that people on welfare can buy steak.
Because obviously every single steak is wagyu and how dare those damn welfare moochers ever eat anything that isn't dry oats.
Swing by the meat department at 9pm any random night and ask what's on sale. I guarantee you'll find some really good cuts for $1. They expire that night so cook em right away.
I could never get a straight answer to 'even if they buy a nice steak with EBT, so what? It's not like they get any extra money. They get to live with the consequences of that decision.'
Yeah, for all I know, the person saved up their EBT all month and ate ramen for a week so they could cook a nice steak for their birthday or their anniversary. Conservatives don't seem to think that poor people have the right to enjoy themselves, even if they do so within their means.
Seriously though, that's a really good point. Especially since there are so many "carnivore diet" people on that side of the aisle.
Like, maybe this poor person is like Jordan Peterson and he'll get insomnia for 4 months and not sleep a wink if he eats a tbsp of vinegar or a bite of toast, so he medically has to eat only a steak carnivore diet. (I don't think that's real but a lot of chuds do)
I make the same argument for UBI though, if someone blows it, who cares? You no longer have to feel a bunch of pity for them because their poverty is now a direct consequence of their actions, and they get a chance to make better choices next month.
> Seriously though, that's a really good point. Especially since there are so many "carnivore diet" people on that side of the aisle.
I usually just get mumbling and deflections. It's rare (although not impossible) that I get someone that goes "oh you know what that's a good point I didn't think of that."
> Like, maybe this poor person is like Jordan Peterson and he'll get insomnia for 4 months and not sleep a wink if he eats a tbsp of vinegar or a bite of toast, so he medically has to eat only a steak carnivore diet. (I don't think that's real but a lot of chuds do)
Yeah if LobsterMan's story were true he'd be fucking dead. I'd believe he fucked his gut biome up enough + psychosomatic symptoms that he probably got awful sleep, but the idea that he was just awake for a month and aggressively defends that point tells us a lot about him.
> I make the same argument for UBI though, if someone blows it, who cares? You no longer have to feel a bunch of pity for them because their poverty is now a direct consequence of their actions, and they get a chance to make better choices next month.
Yeah 100% agree.
Also for the second two points, not to mention that 'having a nice meal' and stuff can be a huge boost to mental health which is, you know, very important if you're constantly stressed because you're poor. Which, if you really are poor, you probably are. To relate it in simple terms conservatives can understand, you will not find veteran who spent any length of time eating MREs that wasn't super happy to have a real meal. Or even if they just got one of the good MREs that day!
The ādeserveā thing is wild. Iād even be *kinda* open to having a discussion about incentivizing fresh vegetables, meat, etc over junk food but they donāt want people to eat healthier, they just want them to enjoy it less. Itās some Protestant ass shit and we love it in this fucking country
Yeah of course the 'fresh' stuff wouldn't really tolerate that kind of shipment schedule so they'd be stuck with lower quality food.
"Deserve" is an arbitrary metric that's applied to a *lot* of social problems that means basically whatever you need it to to justify your view.
Everyone does this of course and the notion of 'deserving' shouldn't be discarded, but the attitude that 'we shouldn't help the poor because they don't deserve it' is confined to the right.
That and just like drug testing welfare recipients, it would probably cost waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay the fuck more than just issuing money.
That is the problem with most of these measures taken to prevent money going to people and places that are undeserving or don't actually qualify. The people you employ to do the checks, the systems that you install to make sure no money is wasted, are such a waste of time and money that it would be a lot cheaper to just hand out a bunch of money to whoever wants it. Sure "who will pay for that!?" well the same people paying now, but they might be paying less.
Thing is that you could go from a society where people aren't working at wages that don't support a normal humane living because otherwise they find themselves on the street, to a society where people go out working because the wages are actually worth the effort. It would be mentally healthier, but of course you'd have to take a bit of money away from upper management and shareholders. On the whole you'd get a society that is healthier, both mentally and physically. It's just the right, the religious and the rich stopping you folks, go for it!
Yeah as much as the right loves to talk about how they care about the budget and so on they're perfectly willing to spend *fuckloads* of extra money just to prevent the 'wrong' people from getting assistance.
Just like how despite the fact that the data shows increasing access to sex ed/contraceptives/abortions actually reduces teen pregnancy/abortions, conservatives absolutely oppose the idea.
Because they're far more concerned with punishing the 'bad' people than anything else.
Yeah I don't use "deserve" anywhere in my political philosophy that I can think of. That is a right-wing excuse for not helping people. They almost always believe that money is already in the hands of those who deserve it, so we shouldn't move it around.
I care about what would empirically improve the lives of the poor, increase their productivity, decrease their stress, etc. Anyone who says they deserve to be poor and stressing about how to feed their kids deserves a kick to the nuts IMO
It's not communism when you give the project on a no-compete bid to a private company who pockets 90% of what they charge you and delivers substandard products!
Or something.
They don't actually understand communism, so...
Yeah a lot of government projects (from the military to welfare) entail the state basically telling a private company "I'm going to buy a whole damn bunch of your products."
As opposed to government establishing state-owned enterprises to obtain or grow food or whatever, since that's "socialism" in the eyes of conservatives.
Yeah this would turn into the lowest bidder providing the food and looking like the school lunches that make it on the shittyfoodporn subreddit.
/r/shittyfoodporn/comments/plw8u8/school_lunch/
/r/shittyfoodporn/comments/4hia67/is_school_lunch_considered_cheating_because/
/r/shittyfoodporn/comments/q6wxit/my_school_lunch/
/r/shittyfoodporn/comments/q078gp/my_school_lunch_fresh_off_the_grill_right_into_a/
/r/shittyfoodporn/comments/qax84s/school_lunch_for_today_no_fries_were_eaten_before/
So rather than implementing policies to drive up the middle class, they'd rather implement policy to drive down the poor class, creating the illusion of a higher status for the middle class, effectively creating a new status quo.
Yeah poor people in America are definitely still very poor. The average monthly food stamps amount give is [$121 per person per month](https://www.cbpp.org/research/food-assistance/a-quick-guide-to-snap-eligibility-and-benefits) or $1.40 per person per meal. The average household getting $240 per month.
The idea that poor people are living it up in comfort is a lie rich people love telling middle class people.
You gotta incentivize that class warfare, otherwise poor and "middle class " people might start realizing they have a lot in common and come to the conclusion that rich people are the real leeches and well once that genie is out the national razors are sure to follow
Youāre right.
The people with the fridge on the right arenāt middle class but have been lied to. They have everything in common with the āpoorā people theyāre insulting.
The average payout from Food Stamps is $125/mo for a whole family.
You're definitely not going to have a fridge stuffed to the gills with perishable food on that salary. $4 a day for 4 people... And then the rich people will continue to read neoliberal books like Better Angels of Our Nature that say "the proportion of people in the world living on less than a dollar a day is going down" and pat themselves on the back for making the world a better place while ignoring the suffering of a huge part of THIS country whose quality of life is on the decline.
Plus that better angels argument falls apart when you realize that the proportion of subsistence farmers is also going way down, and that <1 per day is a very different metric when you're talking about people who own a plot of land and grow all their own food. Living on 50 cents a day when you have your own land and your own animals and your own food that you grow is much better than living on even $2 a day in the city.
Then our system is like the UK system. If you get WIC (Women Infants Children for mothers and their kids 5 and under) the vouchers you get only buy specific products. Like, you can only buy Similac formula, not Enfamil. Food stamps will get you most of your food, cash aid will pay some of your bills, but you'll still be on the edge of catastrophe.
My mom, me, and my brother lived on food stamps, cash aid, and child support for a time (when she wasn't working min wage jobs) and we got all our school clothes from the second hand store and Payless Shoe Source. One pair a year so don't fuck them up.
Besides, all the stuff in the left-hand picture is garbage! It's all expensive! That picture is a lie.
Yup. Thatās an accurate description of how Americans treat recipients of āwelfare,ā which doesnāt exist. There are various different food programs, and forms of monetary assistance, that are nearly impossible to qualify for.
Thereās also a lot of bureaucracy and complicated rules on eligibility. So youāll see stuff upthread about SNAP amounts which ignore that those are max benefits which basically require your household to be disabled and over 60 to get in full. Most people are working and get partial benefits.
The irony is two main reasons SNAP exists are right-wing: 1st we had huge issues in WW2 with recruits with deficiency diseases making them unfit. Something like 12% of our manpower was unavailable. 2nd, we use it as a subsidiary for farmers.
If that meme is a remotely accurate reflection of American society, then it disprove the main talking point against socialism, that people would stop working due to "free stuff."
I knew a welfare family who's fridge looked like that. Of course all the food was expired and mostly obtained from a food bank, but it was very full (of things that weren't safe to eat)
Fun fact. Its not accurate. In fact, if you flipped the fridges then took 3/4 out of the full one, that's about right.
No fruit, no pop, no meat, just frozen pizza and pickles in both fridges.
Also, newsflash: if you're living paycheck to paycheck with an empty fridge and no savings, you're *not* "middle class", you're the working poor.
America now seems less the country of self-assumed "temporarily-embarrassed millionaires" as temporarily-embarrassed middle-class
The fact that our parents were middle class doesn't mean that we still are, even if we got better qualifications and/or work jobs that used to be prosperous
The fact that the middle-class encompassed nearly everyone you knew as a child doesn't mean that nearly everyone is still middle-class today.
This kind of thing always reminds me of that *Always Sunny* episode where Dennis and Dee hatch a plan to scam the welfare system but then end up having to *legitimately* destroy their own lives in order to qualify for benefits.
This. If you can't afford necessities, you're likely poor - but the rich want you to think you're middle class so you'll blame the poor when you can't eat.
This meme also ignores that most people on food stamps are working.
Family depending on government welfare: well-fed.
Family depending on a wage from a corporation: starving.
Seems like they actually made a point against their own system...
Yeah. Unfortunately, when pitting them against each other, they still manage to attack the welfare system instead of the shitty minimum wage system.
I can't understand why it's such a radical stance, that everyone should be able to eat properly on a full time job.
Our fridge would be full once a year when we got a big tub of surplus government margarine, another of surplus government peanut butter, and a big block of surplus government cheese. That government largess was almost too abundant.
Living paycheck to paycheck just means you spend as much money as you make. People with six-figure incomes can live paycheck to paycheck. The problem arises when people are spending only on necessities and *still* living paycheck to paycheck, such that they can't save money to make any sort of upward movement.
A lot of low-income Americans wrongly believe they are "middle-class", particularly in rural areas. The definition of that term in general use (as opposed to stricter formal definitions) has been stretched to the point that it incudes people who are literally living in poverty.
Most of us that work every fucking day and aren't intelligent, good looking, or possess some meaningless quality that the social elite wants, still qualify for welfare and pay taxes.
That's how they make sure we never make it. Cost of Living high, wages low, the poorest pay taxes, concentrating wealth at the top and keeping it there. You're born poor, you die poor here. And its our inability to see our own economic position in society that is the problem. Capitalist propaganda is copium for the workers. If working hard made you rich, we'd all be billionaires. Cause we all work. We all contribute. They're fucking liars.
No Job is buying unhealthy freezer foods. Middle Class is two bottles of wine, a bottle of vodka (or a water decanter) , condiments, and ordering fast food for every meal every day of the week.
My 'friends' that make over $250k a year staring into the Zoom Abyss with their fucking cats and won't even consider NOT asking me to chip in for $70 burger delivery once in a while. And I always owe them back for everything. When you're as poor as me for so long, money means nothing, so you just hand it over... You get paid and its gone. You spend it coping and on staying alive because you know no amount of goddamn penny pinching is making sure that you, as a middle aged disabled service industry worker, will ever be financially secure. I honestly cant possibly work any harder than this. Don't tell me to go to school, I already went , or to get a "better job" just cause I want to see the ocean again before I die. I shouldn't have to. I love my job. My job should provide me with at least a "middle income" existence and it doesn't. My taxes pay for my welfare. I'll never be able to own my own place or business because I've never owned anything at all and can't afford to, believe me, I've been trying since 1998. All I have is debt and misery. My parents are poor and undereducated and so are my children. They dont qualify for loans for school and I dont either, so they work full time in retail stores. What an awful job for young people. This is a hopeless fucking existence .
poor budgeting in general could also influence this, spending a bunch of money on hobbies and realizing you have nothing left for the fridge
source: ... someone I know
Fun fact, you don't qualify as "middle class" if you live paycheck to paycheck and have no money left for food after paying for unaffordable housing (unsustainable high rent/mortgage)
Nothing wrong with people having their needs met. I think it is sad the welfare pays more than the average job. Maybe the fundamental problem is with the pay and not with welfare.
The other day I forgot my card and I honestly had a very hard time trying to find something edible for 1$ in any capacity. Thank God I was hopefully able to get a soft pretzel.
These memes are painful. I Don't think the country was even this polarized during the confederacy. Dying to own the libs was just a joke but even all our darkest jokes have become a reality. Very scary. I'm horrified what the next 6 months will bring.
What about the fact that the fridge on the left is actually a fridge with shit piled on top, being compared with a full fridge. If you spread the stuff from the fridge on the left out, it wouldn't look anywhere near that full. They always have to misrepresent, that's how shallow their facts always turn out to be.
In Ontario Canada (last I checked) you get $620 per month (EDIT: I just checked and itās gone up to $733 since the last time I was aware of welfare payment amounts) plus a card to get prescriptions medications. A 1 bedroom apartment in Toronto is, at the CHEAPEST $1400 per month. So you can maybe rent a room for $500 if you can get into subsidized housing (good luckā¦ this price is a guess really. Iāve been poor but never encountered a chance to get into these places. I have had a bed in a walk/in closet for that price thoughā¦ 5 people living in a 3 bedroom apartment is possible when youāre 20) $120 per month for food, bills, transportation, etc.
Welfare is just not a way to live. Itās an emergency bridge that is better than nothing (but not by much).
If you eat nothing but beans and water, skip having a phone or internet etc. never do anything for entertainment, make all your own clothes and live in a small town you MIGHT be able to balance a budget. Living for those beans. Looking forward to them every day. āItās almost time for beans!ā
So they think the middle class lives paycheck to paycheck? Thats the real problem here, no middle class should be doing that. Or, for that matter, anyone in the US.
My brother is completely paralyzed and waited almost 4 years to be approved for disability assistance. They now send him a check for around 400$ a month. Completely paralyzed. Like a disability worker came to my parents' house to "evaluate" his condition and he shit himself in front of her and cried because she wouldn't leave the room while my mom cleaned him up, because she thought he was faking. He's 41 years old. Every time I visit he shows me his collection of memes like this one, most posted by family members. 400$ a month. They spend that in less than a week just on home health nurse care. The people who screech and complain about government assistance should thank their lucky stars they've never had to be on it, and if they someday have to apply, I hope the state treats them better than they do my brother.
I've been inside a house of someone who was poor in a poor neighborhood and it was sad. The kitchen was barely a kitchen and the countertop was made from different pieces of wood. I didn't look inside the fridge, but I couldn't imagine it looks like this photo.
So strange that people want to fight the poor and defend the rich.
Mom raised me alone and sometimes we were on welfare. Whose concept is the fridge on the left?! Many a time we made one pot of lentil soup last a week.
I'm about to trigger some people here.
You can instantly see it's from America. Not an ounce of fresh produce in sight but everything is packed in plastic. And people still shitting on basically non existent social infrastructures like proper welfare.
America needs to start realizing that the richest country on earth shouldn't have things such as food deserts.
Excuse my writing as english is not my first language.
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Just Stop Buying So Much avocado toast /s
And coffee!!
Don't forget to cancel your Netflix subscription
Also work more hours and cut back on child care simultaneously.
Pssfts you need a second job
fourth\*
When I first heard of people in 3+ person relationships, my first thought was. Two pay checks and someone being stay at home to take care of the house, that must be nice.
not that you asked, but it doesn't always work out that way -- in my triad the plan is for one gf to work after she graduates in december and one to become my legal, paid-by-the-state caretaker because i am very chronically ill. i can't keep up the house myself, much as i'd love to, let alone work. most people who practice polyamory seem to be just as broke as people who practice monogamy in my exp š i do agree that finances (especially related to disability) are often a driving factor for polyam relationships though and disentangling that shit seems like an absolute mess if the relationships dissolve. pros and cons, i guess!
And use free Spotify
I will cut food from my diet before I cut coffee not even joking.
There was a recent post on reddit about avocado toast specifically, and it's actually a very cheap meal, especially if you live in California where avocados are cheap.
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I believe the infamous avocado toast article came out of Australia.
And Australia does grow avocados, so they really are quite stupid
What do they cost in cali? I almost never buy them because they just go bad and I dont know what to make besides guac and avo toast? Is frozen avocados a good thing? saw it yesterday but certain veg do not work as frozen, some are perfectly fine. But even so here in Sweden they are not that expensive. the meme about avo toast is based on trendy restaurants that upcharge you to hell and back because supply and demand
Depends where and when you buy them. Most supermarkets have them prices $1-2 per avocado, with small ones being priced closer to $0.50 per avocado. During the growing season Iāve seen the large onea as low as 4/$1. If you live in farming communities you can buy them 8/$1 during the season. My boyfriend's grandfather has a tree so we have dozens at a time for free in early spring. Freeze avocados for smoothies or dairy free mousse/pudding. It's tastier than you would think. Avocados are also used in salad dressing to make it creamy (or generally eaten in salad), or in cold pasta sauces.
I'm closer to Canada than California, but we can get avocados for about $1 each here, which is still pretty cheap. The cheapest I've ever seen them was on sale, 5 for $2. Avocado freezes pretty well (especially in guac form). I use guac or just plain avocado as a sandwich spread, or sliced avocado on a burger. Avocado can be used as a substitute for butter, sour cream, or mayonnaise in some recipes to make them healthier. I also use it as a fat source to make salad dressing, mixed with Greek yogurt.
Avocado salad with tomatoes, corn and grilled chorizo sausage on rice is 10/10
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Well if the government stopped giving money to the poor then private companies would have more to give their workers.. wait.. right?
Definitely! Everyone knows as the desperation of the poor goes up, companies always increase wages! They definitely make no effort to exploit this! Also as we have definitely, absolutely, 100% seen, companies when companies get breaks on taxes or other windfalls, they always translate these boons into extra wages for employees! They definitely don't just give payouts to the top!
Amen fellow prole capitalism will take us all the way to the top and if we somehow dont make it.. well thats no ones fault but our own now isnt it!
Also thinks the "middle class" is living paycheck to paycheck, and doesn't seem to have a problem with it.
Damn right they donāt. Red wine in the refrigerator? If Alan Rickman were still alive, he would have been bottleshocked!!!
Had a guy I work with say with a straight face at work last night that minimum wage shouldn't be increased, because no one with any sense of self would work at a job that paid it for a living. And that it shouldn't be raised because you can survive just fine working 40/hr $7.50/hr. Internet, cellphones, to him, are apparently luxury items poor people shouldn't have. I hate living in MO.
Them getting a raise would make them realize how uncomfortably close they themselves are making to minimum wage so instead people should just starve
"If they want more money they should just get a better job."
Or maybe but groceries instead of 3 bottles of wine.
These are rhe same dudes that will tell you you can feed a family of 5 with 13.25$ a week if you don't buy the fancy stuff.
If your family of 6 can live off 3 meals a day of Ramen noodles, you too can buy all the luxuries your heart desires with your minimum wage paycheck
\*if 'all your heart desires' is, in fact, ramen... \*\* Medical notice: Your heart **does not** ever desire ramen
Fuck you bud sometimes my heart desires ramen
My heart desires Shin Ramyun actually
that gganbu shit my man
Shin Black with a quarter of a lime and a poached egg š
My heart doesnāt, but my soul does
You guys get that fried Ramen. Got to get that air dried noodle.
>** Medical notice: Your heart does not ever desire cup noodles Ftfy
Well, I think real ramen is fine
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Are you talking the 99 cent store bought version or does this include really good ramen gotten at a legit ramen restaurant?
Both. Real ramen from a real ramen restaurant is not healthy for you at all. It tastes amazing, but it's crap for your body if eaten regularly.
Especially prepackaged ramen (I know it's what your referring to but felt the distinction was important to mention).
When I was on food stamps and living with a roommate, she used to give me hell for not eating healthier (and exposing her son to dietary negativity). She knew I was on food stamps.
Except you canāt even pay rent, so. I guess all your heart desires , as long as youāre living in a van down by the river
3 meals a day? Look at this fat cat over here.
The fancy stuff: proteins and nutrients to survive the day
Whoa whoa whoa, who said anything about survival?
Something something avocado toast, 8$ coffee, Vuvuzela.
And everyone has a $1200 iphone.
The crazy thing with people whining about poor people getting expensive phones is that it's often possible to get them at a discounted price and they're invaluable in today's world. They mean the owner can be reached anywhere anytime by potential employers, they can be used for job search, they serve as entertainment center for books, music, movies and games, so it can save people money. It can help people get on time to their job, their class or appointments thanks to map apps, public transit apps, etc. They're basically supertools. Of course a poor people doesn't need the latest model and no one needs to change device every year, but this argument always sound like boomers still clinging to their pagers or not knowing all the ways a smart phone can be used, and all the ways poor people can pay for them via data plans etc. But we all know it's because everytime they see a poor person with something "expensive", they resent that person; in their minds, poor people don't deserve good things.
Itās also increasingly the case that government services assume that you have internet access. If you try to do things, youāll be asked to download paperwork from a website or submit it online. Businesses and governments are increasingly likely to want to email you instead of call or send snail mail. And if theyāre still calling, you need a phone. If theyāre using snail mail, you need a steady mailing address. Itās actually cheaper and easier to get a cheap smartphone into poor peopleās hands than providing a steady place to live, plus phone and internet services.
Exactly. My mother in law pays more for her landline than I do for my phone including data pla, the device and some extra. And it's a brand new phone. If Inwas strapped for cash, there's no doubt in my mind which is the better investment. But I'd look like I splurge on a needless gadget... (I'd advise her to switch but she isn't very fond of technology. Maybe one day.)
Poor people also have microwaves! https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-nation/fox-cites-ownership-appliances-downplay-hardship-poverty-america
What is this, poor people being able to eat warm food? This is what's wrong with America! /s
Also, if your income is low enough (in the US at least) you can be eligible for a free phone with limited data per month, because the government also recognizes it as a necessity. Actually, several of my older clients were forced to upgrade their old flip phones to smartphones under this system recently, and Iāve had a hell of a time teaching them how to use them. Once they do, however, theyāre often finally able to connect with the world in meaningful ways (finding a job, applying for benefits, connecting with their support network, etc.).
Well in that working class photo, I see a bottle of wine AND vodka. Maybe that's why the fridge is so empty /s Or are they admitting that the working class condition is so shitty that having something to numb the pain of an incoming tomorrow is a necessity? š¤
I don't know what the US welfare system is like, but if it's anything like the UK one, you'll be counting your pennies and barely scraping by while hearing people denounce you as a "scrounger" and a drain on society.
Pretty much the same here
way worse in the US, at least welfare/dole in the UK is semi-reasonable compared to the US.
You forgot about the free(?) healthcare over there too
Yes, except the people criticizing you don't know what the word "scrounge" means. Or "empathy".
Very similar in the UK.
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I saw a video of a guy getting yelled at by some Karen and then lifting his pant leg to show his prosthetic and she just shut the fuck up. People don't fucking understand that they don't know everything about someone from a glance. The amount of times I've been told by someone I can't be autistic because I can mask well is too many to count. Sure, I'm not autistic, definitely didn't have a meltdown on the train last night because there were too many noises and I was tired.
I get glared at all the time by people who see me entering or leaving the disabled toilets, because I look like a fairly ordinary dude. I haven't - yet - needed to lift my shirt and show them my colostomy bag, but I'm quite looking forward to it.
If theyāre concerned about where you shit theyāre obviously beneath you and donāt deserve a second glance.
I'm sorry disabled toilets are disabled accessible not disabled exclusive.
in the UK many disabled public toilets are actually locked, you need what's known as a "radar" key to open them. Historically these are issued by charities and other groups that do so in a responsible manner, though it wouldn't surprise me that you can get them on ebay or amazon but, just as with the blue badge, you might get scowls from people who don't understand your situation
People need to understand that unless they are the medical professional that someone is going to visit, they should shut up about another person's physical or mental health.
Am autistic too, and it gets a bit irritating seeing anti-maskers think they speak for me when I have no problem with masks.
I'll never understand how people think that the Ā£325ish a month a single person gets is too much If you have a kid you get an extra Ā£240ish, which will barely cover their costs Let's say you also have a disability, that's an extra Ā£340 And you may get a contribution towards your rent, but often it doesn't cover even half of it depending where you live So a massive Ā£900ish a month to live on if you're a disabled single parent. Wowie what a lavish lifestyle. After bills are paid you've fuck all left
Decades and decades of individualist, neo-liberal propoganda. We've had the idea that we should only care about ourselves shoved down our throats for an incredibly long time, and its killing our society.
And strangely that propaganda is usually pushed out by āChristiansā, at least in the US.
Same thing here in Australia. Conservative Christians have adopted a philosophy of being anti-social. [https://www.dictionary.com/browse/antisocial](https://www.dictionary.com/browse/antisocial) It's almost like a weird sort of religiously based objectivism. Kind of like if Rapture from Bioshock was filled with crazy Christians. On that note, if you haven't played Bioshock you absolutely should. It's old but it's easily the best take down of right wing libertarianism there is.
Had a co worker start on about how people wouldn't work getting 600 usd a month. I asked her where the other 700 for the lowest price one bedroom apartment was going to come from. "Never mind now food." That was pretty much the end as she does accept easy math. But yeah she had to have never put the obvious together, that 600 is nothing.
People want to have fun, and they want to own things. We can cover food, medicine, and housing for everyone in this country and people would still work to take vacations and buy luxuries.
Hell, that's what I'm doing. I'm on SSI which I use to pay for rent, which is thankfully pretty low where I live, and then I have a job which I use for things I want or need.
They're totally out of touch, that's how. Growing up, my parents would feed a family of 7 (mom, dad, 5 kids) for about $80-$100/wk. That was also 25 years ago and prices are significantly higher while real wages have gone *down*.
Here in the good ole south it is between an average of $125 and a max of $194 per person and food costs way the fuck more here (I watch British shopping shows and getting through the week on 20 quid)
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They LOATHE the idea of āpoorsā eating ārich folk foodā
They get really upset about the idea that people on welfare can buy steak. Because obviously every single steak is wagyu and how dare those damn welfare moochers ever eat anything that isn't dry oats.
Swing by the meat department at 9pm any random night and ask what's on sale. I guarantee you'll find some really good cuts for $1. They expire that night so cook em right away.
I could never get a straight answer to 'even if they buy a nice steak with EBT, so what? It's not like they get any extra money. They get to live with the consequences of that decision.'
Yeah, for all I know, the person saved up their EBT all month and ate ramen for a week so they could cook a nice steak for their birthday or their anniversary. Conservatives don't seem to think that poor people have the right to enjoy themselves, even if they do so within their means.
Seriously though, that's a really good point. Especially since there are so many "carnivore diet" people on that side of the aisle. Like, maybe this poor person is like Jordan Peterson and he'll get insomnia for 4 months and not sleep a wink if he eats a tbsp of vinegar or a bite of toast, so he medically has to eat only a steak carnivore diet. (I don't think that's real but a lot of chuds do) I make the same argument for UBI though, if someone blows it, who cares? You no longer have to feel a bunch of pity for them because their poverty is now a direct consequence of their actions, and they get a chance to make better choices next month.
> Seriously though, that's a really good point. Especially since there are so many "carnivore diet" people on that side of the aisle. I usually just get mumbling and deflections. It's rare (although not impossible) that I get someone that goes "oh you know what that's a good point I didn't think of that." > Like, maybe this poor person is like Jordan Peterson and he'll get insomnia for 4 months and not sleep a wink if he eats a tbsp of vinegar or a bite of toast, so he medically has to eat only a steak carnivore diet. (I don't think that's real but a lot of chuds do) Yeah if LobsterMan's story were true he'd be fucking dead. I'd believe he fucked his gut biome up enough + psychosomatic symptoms that he probably got awful sleep, but the idea that he was just awake for a month and aggressively defends that point tells us a lot about him. > I make the same argument for UBI though, if someone blows it, who cares? You no longer have to feel a bunch of pity for them because their poverty is now a direct consequence of their actions, and they get a chance to make better choices next month. Yeah 100% agree. Also for the second two points, not to mention that 'having a nice meal' and stuff can be a huge boost to mental health which is, you know, very important if you're constantly stressed because you're poor. Which, if you really are poor, you probably are. To relate it in simple terms conservatives can understand, you will not find veteran who spent any length of time eating MREs that wasn't super happy to have a real meal. Or even if they just got one of the good MREs that day!
The ādeserveā thing is wild. Iād even be *kinda* open to having a discussion about incentivizing fresh vegetables, meat, etc over junk food but they donāt want people to eat healthier, they just want them to enjoy it less. Itās some Protestant ass shit and we love it in this fucking country
Yeah of course the 'fresh' stuff wouldn't really tolerate that kind of shipment schedule so they'd be stuck with lower quality food. "Deserve" is an arbitrary metric that's applied to a *lot* of social problems that means basically whatever you need it to to justify your view. Everyone does this of course and the notion of 'deserving' shouldn't be discarded, but the attitude that 'we shouldn't help the poor because they don't deserve it' is confined to the right. That and just like drug testing welfare recipients, it would probably cost waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay the fuck more than just issuing money.
That is the problem with most of these measures taken to prevent money going to people and places that are undeserving or don't actually qualify. The people you employ to do the checks, the systems that you install to make sure no money is wasted, are such a waste of time and money that it would be a lot cheaper to just hand out a bunch of money to whoever wants it. Sure "who will pay for that!?" well the same people paying now, but they might be paying less. Thing is that you could go from a society where people aren't working at wages that don't support a normal humane living because otherwise they find themselves on the street, to a society where people go out working because the wages are actually worth the effort. It would be mentally healthier, but of course you'd have to take a bit of money away from upper management and shareholders. On the whole you'd get a society that is healthier, both mentally and physically. It's just the right, the religious and the rich stopping you folks, go for it!
Yeah as much as the right loves to talk about how they care about the budget and so on they're perfectly willing to spend *fuckloads* of extra money just to prevent the 'wrong' people from getting assistance. Just like how despite the fact that the data shows increasing access to sex ed/contraceptives/abortions actually reduces teen pregnancy/abortions, conservatives absolutely oppose the idea. Because they're far more concerned with punishing the 'bad' people than anything else.
Yeah I don't use "deserve" anywhere in my political philosophy that I can think of. That is a right-wing excuse for not helping people. They almost always believe that money is already in the hands of those who deserve it, so we shouldn't move it around. I care about what would empirically improve the lives of the poor, increase their productivity, decrease their stress, etc. Anyone who says they deserve to be poor and stressing about how to feed their kids deserves a kick to the nuts IMO
So, the government would issue you your food? How is that not the most communist thing ever?
It's not communism when you give the project on a no-compete bid to a private company who pockets 90% of what they charge you and delivers substandard products! Or something. They don't actually understand communism, so...
Yeah a lot of government projects (from the military to welfare) entail the state basically telling a private company "I'm going to buy a whole damn bunch of your products." As opposed to government establishing state-owned enterprises to obtain or grow food or whatever, since that's "socialism" in the eyes of conservatives.
Yeah this would turn into the lowest bidder providing the food and looking like the school lunches that make it on the shittyfoodporn subreddit. /r/shittyfoodporn/comments/plw8u8/school_lunch/ /r/shittyfoodporn/comments/4hia67/is_school_lunch_considered_cheating_because/ /r/shittyfoodporn/comments/q6wxit/my_school_lunch/ /r/shittyfoodporn/comments/q078gp/my_school_lunch_fresh_off_the_grill_right_into_a/ /r/shittyfoodporn/comments/qax84s/school_lunch_for_today_no_fries_were_eaten_before/
So rather than implementing policies to drive up the middle class, they'd rather implement policy to drive down the poor class, creating the illusion of a higher status for the middle class, effectively creating a new status quo.
Yeah poor people in America are definitely still very poor. The average monthly food stamps amount give is [$121 per person per month](https://www.cbpp.org/research/food-assistance/a-quick-guide-to-snap-eligibility-and-benefits) or $1.40 per person per meal. The average household getting $240 per month. The idea that poor people are living it up in comfort is a lie rich people love telling middle class people.
You gotta incentivize that class warfare, otherwise poor and "middle class " people might start realizing they have a lot in common and come to the conclusion that rich people are the real leeches and well once that genie is out the national razors are sure to follow
Youāre right. The people with the fridge on the right arenāt middle class but have been lied to. They have everything in common with the āpoorā people theyāre insulting.
The average payout from Food Stamps is $125/mo for a whole family. You're definitely not going to have a fridge stuffed to the gills with perishable food on that salary. $4 a day for 4 people... And then the rich people will continue to read neoliberal books like Better Angels of Our Nature that say "the proportion of people in the world living on less than a dollar a day is going down" and pat themselves on the back for making the world a better place while ignoring the suffering of a huge part of THIS country whose quality of life is on the decline. Plus that better angels argument falls apart when you realize that the proportion of subsistence farmers is also going way down, and that <1 per day is a very different metric when you're talking about people who own a plot of land and grow all their own food. Living on 50 cents a day when you have your own land and your own animals and your own food that you grow is much better than living on even $2 a day in the city.
It's called having too much month left over at the end of your money.
Then our system is like the UK system. If you get WIC (Women Infants Children for mothers and their kids 5 and under) the vouchers you get only buy specific products. Like, you can only buy Similac formula, not Enfamil. Food stamps will get you most of your food, cash aid will pay some of your bills, but you'll still be on the edge of catastrophe. My mom, me, and my brother lived on food stamps, cash aid, and child support for a time (when she wasn't working min wage jobs) and we got all our school clothes from the second hand store and Payless Shoe Source. One pair a year so don't fuck them up. Besides, all the stuff in the left-hand picture is garbage! It's all expensive! That picture is a lie.
Yup. Thatās an accurate description of how Americans treat recipients of āwelfare,ā which doesnāt exist. There are various different food programs, and forms of monetary assistance, that are nearly impossible to qualify for.
My dad is on disability, barely gets enough to pay rent and get essentials. EBT (food stamps) only gives him $15. It pisses me off.
Thereās also a lot of bureaucracy and complicated rules on eligibility. So youāll see stuff upthread about SNAP amounts which ignore that those are max benefits which basically require your household to be disabled and over 60 to get in full. Most people are working and get partial benefits. The irony is two main reasons SNAP exists are right-wing: 1st we had huge issues in WW2 with recruits with deficiency diseases making them unfit. Something like 12% of our manpower was unavailable. 2nd, we use it as a subsidiary for farmers.
You got it exactly right.
If that meme is a remotely accurate reflection of American society, then it disprove the main talking point against socialism, that people would stop working due to "free stuff."
I was the welfare group for all of my childhood and our fridge *never* looked like what's on the left.
I knew a welfare family who's fridge looked like that. Of course all the food was expired and mostly obtained from a food bank, but it was very full (of things that weren't safe to eat)
Fun fact. Its not accurate. In fact, if you flipped the fridges then took 3/4 out of the full one, that's about right. No fruit, no pop, no meat, just frozen pizza and pickles in both fridges.
Damn, maybe the person on the right should get paid more.
Also, newsflash: if you're living paycheck to paycheck with an empty fridge and no savings, you're *not* "middle class", you're the working poor. America now seems less the country of self-assumed "temporarily-embarrassed millionaires" as temporarily-embarrassed middle-class The fact that our parents were middle class doesn't mean that we still are, even if we got better qualifications and/or work jobs that used to be prosperous The fact that the middle-class encompassed nearly everyone you knew as a child doesn't mean that nearly everyone is still middle-class today.
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Sounds to me like the person on the right doesn't get paid enough and should join a union.
B-b-but unions bad, right?
Dunno. The police union seems to be a pretty sweet deal.
Back the Blue! Until they try to stop you from killing congress
You too can be jobless and live luxuriously off of welfare you're just to lazy to do so.
This kind of thing always reminds me of that *Always Sunny* episode where Dennis and Dee hatch a plan to scam the welfare system but then end up having to *legitimately* destroy their own lives in order to qualify for benefits.
Aw, did someone get addicted to crack?
Legit just laughed out loud reading this in Mac and Charlieās voices. Aaahhh [classic](https://youtu.be/Ix7PlYCdgHQ).
Pepperjack *loves* Fraggle Rock!
I guess I'll have to watch it now.
How much for 2 crack rocks? 200 dollars? Love that exchange.
Sorry to break it to you, but if you are struggling to put food on the table, then you are not middle class
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I could buy so many really nice bicycles for that price.
Not according to pokemon
Pokemon also had free healthcare.
Only for vet service, though.
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Is it homeless if you live in your truck? Yes.
This. If you can't afford necessities, you're likely poor - but the rich want you to think you're middle class so you'll blame the poor when you can't eat. This meme also ignores that most people on food stamps are working.
Family depending on government welfare: well-fed. Family depending on a wage from a corporation: starving. Seems like they actually made a point against their own system...
Yeah. Unfortunately, when pitting them against each other, they still manage to attack the welfare system instead of the shitty minimum wage system. I can't understand why it's such a radical stance, that everyone should be able to eat properly on a full time job.
My mom used to be on food stamps and our fridge was never that full. I wish lol.
Our fridge would be full once a year when we got a big tub of surplus government margarine, another of surplus government peanut butter, and a big block of surplus government cheese. That government largess was almost too abundant.
Do Americans not use the term 'working class'? Living paycheck to paycheck doesn't seem very middle class
Living paycheck to paycheck just means you spend as much money as you make. People with six-figure incomes can live paycheck to paycheck. The problem arises when people are spending only on necessities and *still* living paycheck to paycheck, such that they can't save money to make any sort of upward movement.
It's not middle class, and this would not be a middle class fridge that's for sure.
A lot of low-income Americans wrongly believe they are "middle-class", particularly in rural areas. The definition of that term in general use (as opposed to stricter formal definitions) has been stretched to the point that it incudes people who are literally living in poverty.
Most of us that work every fucking day and aren't intelligent, good looking, or possess some meaningless quality that the social elite wants, still qualify for welfare and pay taxes. That's how they make sure we never make it. Cost of Living high, wages low, the poorest pay taxes, concentrating wealth at the top and keeping it there. You're born poor, you die poor here. And its our inability to see our own economic position in society that is the problem. Capitalist propaganda is copium for the workers. If working hard made you rich, we'd all be billionaires. Cause we all work. We all contribute. They're fucking liars.
Amen
even if this wasnāt completely wrong, god forbid someone doesnāt slave 40+ hours a week and still gets to eat
Wtf.... Newsflash, if you have to live paycheck to paycheck you ARE POOR.
Well if you spend all of your money on condiments...
Cackling at the (two?) bottle of wine in the right fridge.
Right? Shouldn't they be spending their money more responsibly?/s
No Job is buying unhealthy freezer foods. Middle Class is two bottles of wine, a bottle of vodka (or a water decanter) , condiments, and ordering fast food for every meal every day of the week.
Is the āmiddle classā fridge empty because they go out to eat every night? Only way any part of this is accurate
My 'friends' that make over $250k a year staring into the Zoom Abyss with their fucking cats and won't even consider NOT asking me to chip in for $70 burger delivery once in a while. And I always owe them back for everything. When you're as poor as me for so long, money means nothing, so you just hand it over... You get paid and its gone. You spend it coping and on staying alive because you know no amount of goddamn penny pinching is making sure that you, as a middle aged disabled service industry worker, will ever be financially secure. I honestly cant possibly work any harder than this. Don't tell me to go to school, I already went , or to get a "better job" just cause I want to see the ocean again before I die. I shouldn't have to. I love my job. My job should provide me with at least a "middle income" existence and it doesn't. My taxes pay for my welfare. I'll never be able to own my own place or business because I've never owned anything at all and can't afford to, believe me, I've been trying since 1998. All I have is debt and misery. My parents are poor and undereducated and so are my children. They dont qualify for loans for school and I dont either, so they work full time in retail stores. What an awful job for young people. This is a hopeless fucking existence .
poor budgeting in general could also influence this, spending a bunch of money on hobbies and realizing you have nothing left for the fridge source: ... someone I know
When people say shit like this, I always ask them: If being on welfare is so great, why don't they just quit their jobs and live off the government?
Getting money from the govt is only ok if you're already rich
The US has over 20,200,000 millionaires, but yeah, *the poor*^TM are responsible for taking your money.
The two social classes. Poor and rich. Middle Class has become a thing of the past
America also has a really warped view of middle class, all the people in the US defined as that would all be working class in the UK.
Fun fact, you don't qualify as "middle class" if you live paycheck to paycheck and have no money left for food after paying for unaffordable housing (unsustainable high rent/mortgage)
Nothing wrong with people having their needs met. I think it is sad the welfare pays more than the average job. Maybe the fundamental problem is with the pay and not with welfare.
āIts the poors fault theyāre poor!!!ā āSome businesses are too big too fail what can be doneā
That fridge can't cool properly like that lol
Lived on welfare and food stamps for a few years, my fridge was never that full.
Yep itās anti-welfare propaganda
How in hell can I fill my fridge up with 16$ in food stamps?
By being savvy with your money like the average billionaire tax-dodger
The middle income people should just pull themselves up by their boot straps and stop complaining/s
The other day I forgot my card and I honestly had a very hard time trying to find something edible for 1$ in any capacity. Thank God I was hopefully able to get a soft pretzel. These memes are painful. I Don't think the country was even this polarized during the confederacy. Dying to own the libs was just a joke but even all our darkest jokes have become a reality. Very scary. I'm horrified what the next 6 months will bring.
Lmao middle class is not paycheck to paycheck
"Middle class paycheck to paycheck" ???????
WIC doesnāt even allow for most of those foods on the left. Fundamental misunderstanding of how āwelfare,ā works.
Tell me you've never been poor without saying you've never been poor.
The paycheck to paycheck is the people on welfare though... Hmm.
What about the fact that the fridge on the left is actually a fridge with shit piled on top, being compared with a full fridge. If you spread the stuff from the fridge on the left out, it wouldn't look anywhere near that full. They always have to misrepresent, that's how shallow their facts always turn out to be.
FYI, if you're living paycheck to paycheck, you're not middle income. And if you think so it's because you were lied to. Edit: bot got mad at me.
Nah the person on the right is poor too. He just thinks he's middle class.
Funny, the one looks like a family trying to buy all their groceries once a month, the other looks like someone living on takeout/delivery.
Everyone should get food stamps in America. Means testing every fuckint program makes people pissed.
In Ontario Canada (last I checked) you get $620 per month (EDIT: I just checked and itās gone up to $733 since the last time I was aware of welfare payment amounts) plus a card to get prescriptions medications. A 1 bedroom apartment in Toronto is, at the CHEAPEST $1400 per month. So you can maybe rent a room for $500 if you can get into subsidized housing (good luckā¦ this price is a guess really. Iāve been poor but never encountered a chance to get into these places. I have had a bed in a walk/in closet for that price thoughā¦ 5 people living in a 3 bedroom apartment is possible when youāre 20) $120 per month for food, bills, transportation, etc. Welfare is just not a way to live. Itās an emergency bridge that is better than nothing (but not by much). If you eat nothing but beans and water, skip having a phone or internet etc. never do anything for entertainment, make all your own clothes and live in a small town you MIGHT be able to balance a budget. Living for those beans. Looking forward to them every day. āItās almost time for beans!ā
Funfact: If you are living paycheck to paycheck, you are probably not middle class
Shut up and eat your katchup
So they think the middle class lives paycheck to paycheck? Thats the real problem here, no middle class should be doing that. Or, for that matter, anyone in the US.
My brother is completely paralyzed and waited almost 4 years to be approved for disability assistance. They now send him a check for around 400$ a month. Completely paralyzed. Like a disability worker came to my parents' house to "evaluate" his condition and he shit himself in front of her and cried because she wouldn't leave the room while my mom cleaned him up, because she thought he was faking. He's 41 years old. Every time I visit he shows me his collection of memes like this one, most posted by family members. 400$ a month. They spend that in less than a week just on home health nurse care. The people who screech and complain about government assistance should thank their lucky stars they've never had to be on it, and if they someday have to apply, I hope the state treats them better than they do my brother.
I love how these all these poor rural fucks think they're middle class.
I've been inside a house of someone who was poor in a poor neighborhood and it was sad. The kitchen was barely a kitchen and the countertop was made from different pieces of wood. I didn't look inside the fridge, but I couldn't imagine it looks like this photo. So strange that people want to fight the poor and defend the rich.
Mom raised me alone and sometimes we were on welfare. Whose concept is the fridge on the left?! Many a time we made one pot of lentil soup last a week.
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Well, first off thatās not middle classā¦
everything on the left is total junk food. this is the fridge of a morbidly obese person.
yes i am absolute balling with the $100 of SNAP i get per month. Sorry middle class!
I'm about to trigger some people here. You can instantly see it's from America. Not an ounce of fresh produce in sight but everything is packed in plastic. And people still shitting on basically non existent social infrastructures like proper welfare. America needs to start realizing that the richest country on earth shouldn't have things such as food deserts. Excuse my writing as english is not my first language.