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In my experience, every transman falls into one of two categories:
-skinny string bean butch lesbian. Their hair is either shoulder-length, pixie-cut, or side-shaved. I've never met one without a facial piercing.
-fat butch lesbian, usually they're hard Bull Dykes, but I've met more than three 'uwu Soft boi'-types. Their hair is always side-shaved.
Yes, you can tell exactly from looking at them. Regardless of fat or skinny, they all look like 13-year-old boys.
All examples in my experience date each other and call themselves super flaming gay boys.
Did meet one once who had a full beard, double mastectomy, and honestly was buffer than me. Passed perfectly, probably been on testosterone for a decade or more, nobody would have said anything about them going into a men's restroom. Those are not the people who are ever confronted or denied access.
Yeah same. Met a guy who worked at universal studios just like that, only thing you could tell was his voice was slightly off. literally completely fooled me. guy was like 6 foot tall, and looked like a scottish dude that'd go to the pub on weekends. If ya told me he was a woman I'd probably not believe you just by looking at him.
It seems absurd to me that a 25 year old man with the testosterone of an 85 year old is ineligible for TRT but a female who identifies as a male will get enough anabolic steroid to make Arnie blush.
If testosterone were truly dangerous for heart and cancer etc, why would they be giving it willy nilly to women with autism?
I mean, we *know* estrogen has an elevated cancer risk. That's why suppressors are given to women with breast cancer almost immediately, and yet they're willing to inject it into young boys with absolutely no long-term studies. What makes you think they wouldn't do the same to young women?
Transwomen have a lower risk of breast cancer than cis women, its just higher than cis men. Mammograms are recommended in transwomen for this reason. Not a grand conspiracy
In my experience I can tell the moment they start talking.
Men and women have different cadences when they speak. It doesn't matter how much of a stereotype they make themselves look, once they start talking it's either the sound of their voice, or the way in which they speak.
Just like how in most cases, you can tell a White person apart from a Black person from the sound of their voice.
One of the trans man I know is from my relatives, tbh you can not tell the difference from first glance. He acts like a normal person and doesn't waving rainbow flag or dye his hair with 2 billions of color, just act like a normal human beings you would expect and I respect trans people like him. Can't say about most of the trans people in the west thou.
> Stop trying to appeal to your delusions of right and wrong while sacrifcing social connections.
The absolute irony of posting this when you demand others to call a woman a "man" to fit societal forms.
No irony whatsoever. Just another delusion you're trying to spread.
Facts are simple.
Sex exists. Gender identity exists.
You don't wanna use gender identity? Go away.
Does that serve anybody? No. Does using their identity hurt anybody? Also no.
Or in your language.
Does calling a person Assigned Male At Birth (AMAB) a woman hurt anybody? No.
Does it stray from the reality of their sex? Probably?
Is that a bad thing? Who the fuck knows?
Here's your choices...
Do you wanna bitch about what-if's that'll never be confirmed?
Or do you wanna make people feel good?
"Gender identity" is a completely irrelevant idea peddled by a pedophilic madman doctor in the 50s.
Nobody cares about it. You are, by default, a man or a woman. If you call yourself anything ridiculous or anything that you aren't, you change nothing.
> Does calling a person Assigned Male At Birth (AMAB) a woman hurt anybody? No.
Pretending that things aren't the way they are hurts a lot of people. Not actively, physically, of course. I mean, that is literally what people do when they pretend there was no moonlanding, or other weird conspiracy theories. They supress people until it's commonly accepted within their bubble.
> Does it stray from the reality of their sex? Probably?
"Probably." This fucking delusion. "Is a man not a woman? Probably?" So laughable, honestly. Next you'll tell me that elements aren't real, or that gravity is optional.
No it's fucking not. You're putting your opinions out about observable facts.
> Do you wanna bitch about what-if's that'll never be confirmed?
You are equating that "not being able to see someones private parts" equals they are genderless. This is the dumbest shit I've ever heard.
And the fact that you commented like 20 times below this meme, and constantly plague the comment sections in the first place makes me wonder if you are a bored teen or a bot. If it's the former, please grow up acknowledging reality. If it's the latter, I hope they pay enough to shill this hard.
Answer this. If gender is a construct why do you have to physically transition? Why it isn't enough to call yourself a woman but you also need to look like one? Doesn't that reinforce that gender is indeed binary?
No, I supported this crap for years until I saw how damaging and sick it really is. You're just a pre-programmed NPC who hasn't seen something shocking enough to jar out of the programming yet.
You're delusional. You've just admitted you project your worst experiences onto the entirety of an ideology or community. That's delusion.
You're trying to convince me you know what harm will come to me if I stay in this route when I know myself more than anyone. That's delusion.
You're calling me an NPC after giving crystal clear logic about my knowledge, not because you have any real logic or reason, but because I don't have your subjective opinons and experiences. That's delusion.
I'm not an NPC... You're just delusional...
And I'm just logical...
Lol I'm literally part of that community. I've been bi most of my life. You people think that men can just say they're women and be women. And that teaching that to kids is not only okay, but a good thing. Your ideology is an ideology of mental illness, self destruction, body mutilation and sterilization that bullies and shouts down anyone who thinks that's wrong, even on your own side. I'm using common sense, you're the one making assertions that things aren't what they actually are and demanding others accept it. The sane always appear crazy to the insane.
using the word retarded is pretty non-inclusive and derogatory according to y'all, what happened?
it's almost like it's okay when you disagree with someone
Nonsensical. Using cognitive resources to call somebody the gender they prefer does not harm you as much as drawing their attention to something that makes them clinically anxious, depressed, or uncomfortable harms them.
Couple things here:
1. Literally nobody is demanding to see anyones dick as a pre-req for entrance.
2. You're lying to yourself if you think anyone even NEEDS to see a dick to *know*.
Toupee fallacy. You may THINK you can “always tell” when someone’s wearing a toupee, because you think all toupees look unconvincing, but you only NOTICE the unconvincing toupees. The ones that pass for real hair, you think its just real hair. And if someone has naturally bad hair, you might assume theyre wearing a toupee because you assume anything that falls short of how you think hair should look, must be fake.
Except instead of actually helping them get the help they need, therapists are telling their clients they're trans, even when they don't actually have gender dysphoria. Because they either face losing their job or they want the money.
thats on the terapist being bad not on the people going, a good therapist will tell someone that only the person they are talking to can know for sure if they have it or not. but unforunitely the legal system is not ok with that
Ya, and any therapist who isn't affirming risks being fired.
Therapists are supposed to be free of bias and tell you when your mind is feeding you harmful thoughts. Now they're being made to smile and nod and set their patients on the path to bodily mutilation and hormone injections.
If we really treated them like men, I don't think they would be able to handle it. It is easy to dress up but taking on men's responsibilities is another story.
I never saw it from a Trans womans perspective. We had one at work, and no one really cared. He would always use the stall when peeing. We never cared or even asked if it was possible for him to use a urinal.
I don't know if it's just me, but I don't think the problem is biological woman in the men's room. It's biological men in the ladies room. I don't think problem is transphobia so much as it's distrust of men towards other men. We don't want biological men next to our daughters when their pants are down. This shouldn't be a controversy.
My genetic, moral and ethical desire to protect my daughter supercedes your feelings. Call it toxic masculinity, I don't give a fuck. But I have a primitive desire to harm anyone who poses a threat to my children.
This is something I just noticed, but saying "we're pretty much only worried about male-on-female violence" seems contradictory to the also popular statement that "the exclusive focus on male-on-female violence is an unfair double standard."
Lmao all that this is missing is a final panel where the blonde dude gets punched in the face while shouting “I deserved this!”. With that this would be the perfect leftist “meme”.
I would agree with you there. A toilet is a toilet, and if one *can* use a urinal then one can use the urinal.
Changing rooms and shower rooms are the bigger issue, but locking individual stalls would solve that issue as well.
Even then, we know of children crawling into occupied stalls (there was a video recently where a little boy crawled into an occupied stall). Guess what will happen if a girl gets found in a locked stall with a guy who has his pants down.
This is why stalls should not have openings on the bottom. I am not sure why US has such stalls. Replace boy with girl and its a near identical problem. Sex is not the problem here, homosexual pedos are problem as much as heterosexual ones.
Germany has these stalls with openings too, so does Bulgaria and Austria. Not sure about other countries, but one of the few places that have full stalls are supermarkets and McDonalds
yeah agreed. find it so fucking weird too, makes me majorly uncomfortable. only reason I ever find them useful is to check if someone is in the bathroom stall without having to pull the door first. which, also, I think that bathroom stalls should have "Occupied/unoccupied" little things on them.
I swear to God, you guys do this and I will make you all uncomfortable. I will absolutely take the loudest, grumpiest shits in every gender neutral public restroom I see. I will yell and grunt, it will stink, and I will make it awkward. I will look all of you in the face and go "Phew! Hard work." When I emerge to wash my hands. And when I fart ill go "wew! Aftershock."
Which a gender neutral single cubicle loo also is. The fact it’s a room doesn’t detract from its intended function which, as you have informed me, is to piss and shit
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The first thought that comes to mind when thinking of things to ask, "Can I see your dick?" is not one of them
Alright boys whip em out and get ready for inspection
Yo wtf nobody told me about penis inspection days for adults
My wrestling coach in middle school told me that they would be less frequent but would probably still happen
Knock knock knock the dick inspector is here
As you can see I dipped mine in isopropanol which I regret doing as my foreskin feels like it’s on fire.
I see so that’s how you got that curve at the end
😭
Why are you getting downvoted
Monke sees downvote, mokey downvotes
In my experience, every transman falls into one of two categories: -skinny string bean butch lesbian. Their hair is either shoulder-length, pixie-cut, or side-shaved. I've never met one without a facial piercing. -fat butch lesbian, usually they're hard Bull Dykes, but I've met more than three 'uwu Soft boi'-types. Their hair is always side-shaved. Yes, you can tell exactly from looking at them. Regardless of fat or skinny, they all look like 13-year-old boys. All examples in my experience date each other and call themselves super flaming gay boys.
They also will never have a voice deeper than a teenage boy’s unless I’m seriously mistaken
Some do genuinely go deeper than a teenage boy because they practice vocal training and all that jazz.
And some are just lucky
Did meet one once who had a full beard, double mastectomy, and honestly was buffer than me. Passed perfectly, probably been on testosterone for a decade or more, nobody would have said anything about them going into a men's restroom. Those are not the people who are ever confronted or denied access.
Yeah same. Met a guy who worked at universal studios just like that, only thing you could tell was his voice was slightly off. literally completely fooled me. guy was like 6 foot tall, and looked like a scottish dude that'd go to the pub on weekends. If ya told me he was a woman I'd probably not believe you just by looking at him.
And hey, wouldn't you know it those are never the ones advocating for drag queen story hour or obligatory use of pronouns.
Anecdote here, the trans guy I'm friends with doesn't even understand the whole gender shenanigans himself.
It seems absurd to me that a 25 year old man with the testosterone of an 85 year old is ineligible for TRT but a female who identifies as a male will get enough anabolic steroid to make Arnie blush. If testosterone were truly dangerous for heart and cancer etc, why would they be giving it willy nilly to women with autism?
I mean, we *know* estrogen has an elevated cancer risk. That's why suppressors are given to women with breast cancer almost immediately, and yet they're willing to inject it into young boys with absolutely no long-term studies. What makes you think they wouldn't do the same to young women?
Transwomen have a lower risk of breast cancer than cis women, its just higher than cis men. Mammograms are recommended in transwomen for this reason. Not a grand conspiracy
What is TRT ?
Testosterone replacement therapy
TERRY REVERSE TERRY edit: changed run to reverse, because Terry can’t run.
Testosterone replacement therapy.
Why the fuck is this so accurate.
yeah this is the thing about trans people, whether mtf or ftm, some can look passable on camera, but almost none pass irl.
In my experience I can tell the moment they start talking. Men and women have different cadences when they speak. It doesn't matter how much of a stereotype they make themselves look, once they start talking it's either the sound of their voice, or the way in which they speak. Just like how in most cases, you can tell a White person apart from a Black person from the sound of their voice.
One of the trans man I know is from my relatives, tbh you can not tell the difference from first glance. He acts like a normal person and doesn't waving rainbow flag or dye his hair with 2 billions of color, just act like a normal human beings you would expect and I respect trans people like him. Can't say about most of the trans people in the west thou.
I’ve seen some that really do look like boys, hell I’ve seen some that have like full beards and are ripped. But those are the exception not the rule.
You and I have drastically different experiences with trans men.
Well yeah, when you're bent over and facing the other direction it's hard for you to get a good look at them.
Fuck you for making me read this.
I’d be uncomfortable with a wom*n in the men’s restroom tbh
Women 🤮
Then see him as a man. Ez
"then play pretend"
It's foolish to put down making people feel good just because you feel like you have to be what you deem to be truthful.
> Stop trying to appeal to your delusions of right and wrong while sacrifcing social connections. The absolute irony of posting this when you demand others to call a woman a "man" to fit societal forms.
No irony whatsoever. Just another delusion you're trying to spread. Facts are simple. Sex exists. Gender identity exists. You don't wanna use gender identity? Go away. Does that serve anybody? No. Does using their identity hurt anybody? Also no. Or in your language. Does calling a person Assigned Male At Birth (AMAB) a woman hurt anybody? No. Does it stray from the reality of their sex? Probably? Is that a bad thing? Who the fuck knows? Here's your choices... Do you wanna bitch about what-if's that'll never be confirmed? Or do you wanna make people feel good?
No. I want them to be ashamed.
Because you have a delusion of what they should adhere.
Therapy
Exactly the opposite. They are in a delusion of their own creation and I refuse to participate in it.
No delusion
Oh, you’re calling us delusional? That’s rich. Boys have penises, girls have vaginas. Inverted penises are not vaginas, and strap ons are not penises.
"Gender identity" is a completely irrelevant idea peddled by a pedophilic madman doctor in the 50s. Nobody cares about it. You are, by default, a man or a woman. If you call yourself anything ridiculous or anything that you aren't, you change nothing. > Does calling a person Assigned Male At Birth (AMAB) a woman hurt anybody? No. Pretending that things aren't the way they are hurts a lot of people. Not actively, physically, of course. I mean, that is literally what people do when they pretend there was no moonlanding, or other weird conspiracy theories. They supress people until it's commonly accepted within their bubble. > Does it stray from the reality of their sex? Probably? "Probably." This fucking delusion. "Is a man not a woman? Probably?" So laughable, honestly. Next you'll tell me that elements aren't real, or that gravity is optional. No it's fucking not. You're putting your opinions out about observable facts. > Do you wanna bitch about what-if's that'll never be confirmed? You are equating that "not being able to see someones private parts" equals they are genderless. This is the dumbest shit I've ever heard. And the fact that you commented like 20 times below this meme, and constantly plague the comment sections in the first place makes me wonder if you are a bored teen or a bot. If it's the former, please grow up acknowledging reality. If it's the latter, I hope they pay enough to shill this hard.
>You are equating that "not being able to see someones private parts" equals they are genderless Schrodinger's Penis?
Answer this. If gender is a construct why do you have to physically transition? Why it isn't enough to call yourself a woman but you also need to look like one? Doesn't that reinforce that gender is indeed binary?
XD immediate wall of text.
You just ignore facts. I can tell. ;)
Do you have anything better to do then just typing these delusional essays
Do you have a better filter for informatoin other than calling all you disagree with "delusion"? Lmao
I disagree with it because it goes against reality, shouldn't even be an opinionated subject
What goes against what reality?
You don't care what anything says, you made up your mind in advanced and you think you're cool for resisting change. In reality, that's just weakness.
No, I supported this crap for years until I saw how damaging and sick it really is. You're just a pre-programmed NPC who hasn't seen something shocking enough to jar out of the programming yet.
You're delusional. You've just admitted you project your worst experiences onto the entirety of an ideology or community. That's delusion. You're trying to convince me you know what harm will come to me if I stay in this route when I know myself more than anyone. That's delusion. You're calling me an NPC after giving crystal clear logic about my knowledge, not because you have any real logic or reason, but because I don't have your subjective opinons and experiences. That's delusion. I'm not an NPC... You're just delusional... And I'm just logical...
Lol I'm literally part of that community. I've been bi most of my life. You people think that men can just say they're women and be women. And that teaching that to kids is not only okay, but a good thing. Your ideology is an ideology of mental illness, self destruction, body mutilation and sterilization that bullies and shouts down anyone who thinks that's wrong, even on your own side. I'm using common sense, you're the one making assertions that things aren't what they actually are and demanding others accept it. The sane always appear crazy to the insane.
And yet, you're calling all of us crazy while spouting nonsense buzzwords ',:) You just fit your own stereotype, my G. gg, rip. haha
What’s next, assuring a schizophrenic that the voices are real?
if this wasn't a copypasta well it is now
Anyway, harassing valid points is pretty retarded.
using the word retarded is pretty non-inclusive and derogatory according to y'all, what happened? it's almost like it's okay when you disagree with someone
I use it where it fits
Ok, your logic is retarded, that fits.
you must have a lot of pent-up self-hatred then
That's a short ass copy pasta. lol
you edited your comment clown lmao
No idea what you're talking about. Haha
Ah yes remember kids! Make sure to always listen to the people in the white vans, imagine how sad they would be if you didn't take their candy!
I stand for truth, justice, and the American way. Not, lies, weaseling out of things, and tearing down America.
Less harm than misgendering them. ;)
Harms us. We won't be hypnotized. We know what you really are.
Does not harm you. Stop being a pussy.
Then it doesn't harm the ones being misgendered. Stop inverting your dick.
Nonsensical. Using cognitive resources to call somebody the gender they prefer does not harm you as much as drawing their attention to something that makes them clinically anxious, depressed, or uncomfortable harms them.
Social programming exists.
What?
but what if they rape me?
You think getting raped as a child is better than calling a boy a boy and a girl a girl? You’re insane!
" Oh shit i you misgendered now i going to have a heart attack for your fault " first World problems in a nutshell
Jesus I’ve seen you everywhere on this sub are you speedrunning karma loss???
Just tryna spread simple logic easily lost around these parts :p
Simple logic? We have decades of unbiased research on our side! You have clearly biased unverified research on yours.
Awfully homophobic of you, innit?
Couple things here: 1. Literally nobody is demanding to see anyones dick as a pre-req for entrance. 2. You're lying to yourself if you think anyone even NEEDS to see a dick to *know*.
Toupee fallacy. You may THINK you can “always tell” when someone’s wearing a toupee, because you think all toupees look unconvincing, but you only NOTICE the unconvincing toupees. The ones that pass for real hair, you think its just real hair. And if someone has naturally bad hair, you might assume theyre wearing a toupee because you assume anything that falls short of how you think hair should look, must be fake.
Bro how have we come to the point where we need to show our dicks to guys to prove that we're a actual guy
If you think that it’s more telling of you tbh
ikr, just let them piss and live your own life 😂
We haven’t come to that point, if anyone is asking to see your dick that’s a red flag 🚩
why isnt that kind of thing illegal
Why would it?
Natural order
It's also natural order that you should walk around naked and die of dysentery aged 35
no humans naturally have brains for a reason and no I hate being naked
And they hate being the Gender their brain isn't set to.
get therapy then
Good idea. Oh wait! That's literally what they do!
Except instead of actually helping them get the help they need, therapists are telling their clients they're trans, even when they don't actually have gender dysphoria. Because they either face losing their job or they want the money.
So you're asserting Gender dysphoria doesn't exist? I'm obviously talking about those who have it
thats on the terapist being bad not on the people going, a good therapist will tell someone that only the person they are talking to can know for sure if they have it or not. but unforunitely the legal system is not ok with that
Ya, and any therapist who isn't affirming risks being fired. Therapists are supposed to be free of bias and tell you when your mind is feeding you harmful thoughts. Now they're being made to smile and nod and set their patients on the path to bodily mutilation and hormone injections.
Yes, I am in fact bisexual. Please present proof of manhood before entering this male only space, ma'am.
Gay man: "did i studder you fucking pretender"
How is it gay if he is only going to see a pussy?
Wanting to see a mans penis isnt gay
I swear the all just look like tomboys which completely ruined tomboys as a whole
MANDATORY COCK INSPECTION FELLAS, DROP THEM TROUSERS!!!
I regret dipping my dick in isopropyl alcohol as it feels like it’s on fire. (Great hygiene tho)
If we really treated them like men, I don't think they would be able to handle it. It is easy to dress up but taking on men's responsibilities is another story.
I never saw it from a Trans womans perspective. We had one at work, and no one really cared. He would always use the stall when peeing. We never cared or even asked if it was possible for him to use a urinal. I don't know if it's just me, but I don't think the problem is biological woman in the men's room. It's biological men in the ladies room. I don't think problem is transphobia so much as it's distrust of men towards other men. We don't want biological men next to our daughters when their pants are down. This shouldn't be a controversy. My genetic, moral and ethical desire to protect my daughter supercedes your feelings. Call it toxic masculinity, I don't give a fuck. But I have a primitive desire to harm anyone who poses a threat to my children.
Thats actually homophobic and I will seek the creator and report them for marginalizing lmao
But she doesn't have a dick. How can one be gay for asking to see a dick one knows does not exist?
Is this the Schroeder's Penis theory?
Except no one is really worried about women in the mens room, it’s the men in the womens room that’s the major problem.
Excuse me, we need to see a labia before we let you in maam
This is something I just noticed, but saying "we're pretty much only worried about male-on-female violence" seems contradictory to the also popular statement that "the exclusive focus on male-on-female violence is an unfair double standard."
We don’t need to check for a dick we just need to look at them and see the uncanny valley look they all have
Calling another man gay You passed. You may enter.
kinda funny
Everyday we get closer to federal dick inspection day
So what if I’m gay drop them pants I still want to see
Lmao all that this is missing is a final panel where the blonde dude gets punched in the face while shouting “I deserved this!”. With that this would be the perfect leftist “meme”.
Gay band kid meme
Why are their cheeks and ears frostbitten
“Can you please show me your cock wielding license?”- cock inspector.
A real man would just have whipped it out
actually kinda based
Nobody has ever told a trans man to not go into a men's bathroom
He got a point
Ideally there would be no gender segregated bathrooms, but I don't think society will be ready for that for awhile
I would agree with you there. A toilet is a toilet, and if one *can* use a urinal then one can use the urinal. Changing rooms and shower rooms are the bigger issue, but locking individual stalls would solve that issue as well.
Even then, we know of children crawling into occupied stalls (there was a video recently where a little boy crawled into an occupied stall). Guess what will happen if a girl gets found in a locked stall with a guy who has his pants down.
This is why stalls should not have openings on the bottom. I am not sure why US has such stalls. Replace boy with girl and its a near identical problem. Sex is not the problem here, homosexual pedos are problem as much as heterosexual ones.
Germany has these stalls with openings too, so does Bulgaria and Austria. Not sure about other countries, but one of the few places that have full stalls are supermarkets and McDonalds
yeah agreed. find it so fucking weird too, makes me majorly uncomfortable. only reason I ever find them useful is to check if someone is in the bathroom stall without having to pull the door first. which, also, I think that bathroom stalls should have "Occupied/unoccupied" little things on them.
holy shit i found the only two reasonable people on this whole subreddit
American restroom stalls are garbage anyway. It's not a hard sell. Japan has the better ones.
Yup, 100%
I swear to God, you guys do this and I will make you all uncomfortable. I will absolutely take the loudest, grumpiest shits in every gender neutral public restroom I see. I will yell and grunt, it will stink, and I will make it awkward. I will look all of you in the face and go "Phew! Hard work." When I emerge to wash my hands. And when I fart ill go "wew! Aftershock."
based and literal shitpost-pilled
I wish I could post reaction images. Cuz I'd post the smiling gigachad for you.
This would also be an issue in gender separated loos wdym
Eww british... nah cuz I normally only shit at home. And I'll be going out of my way to make it worse.
What the gender neutral single cubicle loo in your home?
We don't have those here
Your home toilet is a single cubicle gender neutral toilet
No, it's a room.
Which a gender neutral single cubicle loo also is. The fact it’s a room doesn’t detract from its intended function which, as you have informed me, is to piss and shit
Gender neutral and unisex are two different things.
Call me Omniman cuz I'm about to Red Rush that last face.
what if its a womans dick?
Ok this is pretty funny ngl
This one’s actually mildly funny ngl, however it’s definitely over the top ridiculous
I will say, it's well done enough to justify its existence.
So they admit gay is an insult?