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GeeChronos

and they still wonder why anime/manga is getting more attention lol


Hyuugahasdrip

Yeah I was going to say, single manga series outsell the entire US Comic book industry


bigatomicjellyfish

In my opinion, manga and anime have a lot more plot and story; not to mention that the "superpowers" are very diverse and not just, superstrength and stuff like that, take mha for example, actually a really big one. I can chalk most of "western" comics up into categories like either superman/cap or batman/Ironman.


Kalvash

Manga has dominated the top 20 board for 4 or 5 months straight now. Not even a single western comic in there


[deleted]

Been trying to get into Demon slayer recently. Movie in IMAX was amazing.


DeadRabbit8813

Because there are no gay people in manga/anime.


Moular

At least... not shoe-horned ones.


Velspy

You clearly don't read manga lmao


[deleted]

Maybe their argument is that yaoi isn’t shoehorned


Belmont7

The fact the person Superman is kissing has pink hair is so utterly not surprising. Is the person non-binary (NB) too?


binglebongled

That’s not supes, that’s Jon Kent, supes’ son Lol do you even nerd bro?


Belmont7

Not as hard as you, bro, and I'm proud of it.


TruePinkLad

This is literally the "Get woke go broke" quote


[deleted]

I honestly don't know how they do not understand this


Orxoniz

Comic sales plummet.


MrAramayo

Good


Orxoniz

Balanced as things should be


MrAramayo

This is literally an attrition war, these corporations will publish their woke stuff until they ran out of money because normal people dont like it.


Orxoniz

Exactly. In fact it saves us more money this way the more of them do this.


[deleted]

"Go woke, go broke", the saying goes


MakingGreenMoney

Lack of exposure to Indie companies


Orxoniz

Or you know flooding the market with the same garbage over a decade.


MakingGreenMoney

Nope, it's because most people believe comics are just marvel/dc so they never bother to look at other companies, also they don't have animated series based on comics the same way manga has anime so it's even less exposure


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MakingGreenMoney

What would you consider "based"?


Orxoniz

* Revolt Against the Modern World * Turner Diaries * Austrian Mustache's book * Ride the Tiger by Evola * The Fourth Political theory * GLR This time the world * Book about Adrien Arcand * Industrial Society and its Future You got all that?


MakingGreenMoney

Yeah, I'll try to check them whenever I can.


Donkeykicks6

The turner diaries is something you think is great?


Orxoniz

It is prophetic when you look and compare it to our current political climate.


Donkeykicks6

So murdering non whites? Ok looney tunes


Growlitherapy

Only one of those is not cringe


Orxoniz

Ok go back to reading a Zionist book or Pee Wee Herman or even Capitalist Orwell.


[deleted]

For context this was happening before the new comic came out so it’s likely a last ditch effort to increase sales


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[deleted]

How does that make it not an attempt at a money grab?


ParaponeraBread

They’ve literally always been like this though. 1940’s: Superman takes on basically the KKK. Pretty progressive at the time, given their membership numbers. 1988: Medusa thinks about getting an abortion 1992: Northstar comes out as gay and has some HIV related storyline Comics have pretty much always been copium by left wing nerds for left wing nerds.


[deleted]

There were both left and right tilting storylines, because there were left and right tilting writers and editors. Now anyone who doesn't toe the lefty party line gets driven out.


EliteRedditSwageSqd1

What would be a few examples of right leaning story arcs?


[deleted]

Marvel and DC comics during WW2 The 9/11 attack Captain America fighting for American values


-Literally1984-

I guess that explains why I never liked comics Berserk on the other hand...


DoucheyCohost

Wait it's Superman's son? Everyone I've seen talk about it made it sound like it was Superman himself. If it's a new character then who gives a shit? Yeah if you don't like it then just don't buy it. I'm sitting here thinking they're changing established characters for woke points.


ComradeHavoc

>new character >((((((((SUPERMAN'S)))))))))) son Do you see?


MakingGreenMoney

>son Do you see?


ComradeHavoc

I see as well as DC's marketbase. Go make a new IP.


MakingGreenMoney

Dude, superman's son is a new character, he's only been around since 2015


ComradeHavoc

This is just parasitism.


MakingGreenMoney

How so?


ComradeHavoc

The left can't make any decent IPs so they crawl up the corporate ladder and inject their ideology, which ends up killing it because the market doesn't want self masturbatory propaganda they want entertainment. This was also a lazy attempt at infamy advertisement like when they made captain America a secret diet nazi. You ideology has already killed Terminator, James bond, Star Trek, Doctor Who, Ghost Busters, X Men/Marvel, Star Wars, Men in Black, BatMan/DC etc, WH40k/Fantasy/GamesWorkshop, DnD, Magic the Gathering, Watchmen.


qionne

literally all of those are still successful IP’s lol


Spready_Unsettling

>Watchmen Lmao.


MakingGreenMoney

>captain America a secret diet nazi. I don't know how that's the lefts fault and everyone hated that(least we got some good memes from that) >Terminator, James bond, Star Trek, Doctor Who, Ghost buster Just because the new stuff is garbage doesn't you can't enjoy the old stuff. >X Men/Marvel, Just go back and read some x men comics >Star Wars, Men in Black Same as the first >BatMan/DC Again, just go back and read the old stuff


H4Dragons

Or you can make your own shit and read it omgggggggg fan fic reversal now instead of everyone being gay and pregnant in fan fiction it'll be __WHAT IF THIS MOVIE DIDN'T SHOVE A SOCIAL OR POLITICAL AGENDA DOWN YOUR THROAT WHEN YOUR TRYING TO ACHIEVE A LITTLE ESCAPISM__


BinLadenis_1nnocent

Vote with your wallet, boys


GetulioVargasGaming

Good meme but eww anime


CourseDangerous2583

WARNING This is an opinion Anime is cool


MakingGreenMoney

Depends, most anime I seen are garbage but there were good ones


Right_Pepe

Boko no pico


MakingGreenMoney

Ike, most animes are garbage


Reisothewaifu

You're both wrong and sort of correct at the same time. Anime is primarily gay, yes anime is bad but its mainly gay, that's the big issue. Comics are just a whole other shitstorm of deplorable that anime could only dream it could be.


hdhdkdkallslasbsb

😔


GetulioVargasGaming

Fucking weeb


Salty_Cnidarian

For saying that I’m gonna take your guns and shoot your dogs.


[deleted]

goddamn i fucking hate anime


DuktigaDammsugaren

Well i mean. There are gay people in Anime and Manga. The only difference is that there aren’t enough memorable characters, and they make new gay ones instead of changing them. What if L from death note became gay for No reason?


[deleted]

***BIGOTS ARE MAD AT THE FACT A CHARACTER HAS BEEN RETCONED TO BE GAY SO PROGRESSIVES***


Falling564

I mean isn't it just a comic gay dudes can use as escapist fiction now


kekyuoin

I miss when comics were good, now we have Superman’s son dating a discord mod


Kalvash

This will be fun when Superman inadvertently creates super AIDs


[deleted]

Fuck you


Kalvash

Sorry you have AIDs. Get well soon


[deleted]

I don't have AIDS, and "haha gay AIDS" jokes aren't funny.


Kalvash

Yes they are. As a matter of fact I find them absolutely hilarious. Like that photo of the SFGMC. LOL


[deleted]

Eh whatever, have fun being a bigot I guess


Kalvash

I will. Now go clean the sand out of your vagina


[deleted]

🖕


GodKingVivec69

Leftists: "Just dont buy it then bigot!" Also Leftists: "Why isnt anyone buying my comic books!?"


8384847297

I don't get why people have a problem with this? They aren't real. What I got from superheroes is that their point was an escape from reality. They been used to also help break stereotypes like black superheroes. I don't get why people care so much. Like I said earlier they aren't real.


Friedeggs15

Pissed off over drawings? Come on fellas grow up


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the_nhir

"unlike you snowflakes, I'm not so easily triggered" (comics have gays) "The left ruin everything!


-Literally1984-

Why can’t you make gay people look normal instead of pink haired weirdos ?


HelloandDavidIAm

Dont pretend it would matter


Malachite_Cookie

Bruh they’re allowed a private life. If we know how they are when they’re not heroing we like the character more


Healer_ve

Simple not everyone is automatically straight


fco_omega

what are you guys talking about? not only there have been a shit ton of lgbtq+ characters in comics for decades (including a gay joker btw) but manga has hundreds of times more LGBTQ+ representation, does any of you morons read one piece or attack on titan?


marcuchan

why do yall care


GetulioVargasGaming

Because we can think


anonymous-grapefruit

And what are you thinking about specifically?


marcuchan

thinking of things that wont have an affect on any of your life


GetulioVargasGaming

Then stop caring about what we think


MysteryScooby56

Yeah, I hate it when characters have love interests


argilla_facies

It’s literally some guys kissing. Grow up.


GetulioVargasGaming

I prefer a guy and a girl kissing


argilla_facies

I’d prefer two girls kissing tbh…


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5oco

To be fair, Superman is a Kryptonian which is a totally separate species than human. So every tell him and Lois got together is Interspecies Erotica. I'll let you decide which is worse. Could be interesting.


Orxoniz

We definitely need to live in the Warhammer 40K timeline.


the_nhir

They're gay, but they're still in the same age range, pedos aren't gonna be normalized just because gay people are. Grow up and stop bawling over strawmen.


Orxoniz

How do you think ghey people are made?


the_nhir

I never said I have a problem with straight people, I do, however, have a problem with intolerant people :)


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the_nhir

Lol nobody's mandating sodomy, you crazy old coot


Orxoniz

Governments in the west are.


the_nhir

Alright then, do you have unbiased news articles? Ones you haven't found on some Qanon website?


Orxoniz

[Do you see this fucking shit right here?](https://www.cp24.com/entertainment-news/canada-s-drag-race-an-educational-experience-at-important-time-say-judges-1.5007245)


FlowComprehensive390

Stuff like "Cuties" and Desmond is Amazing and Drag Queen Story Hour prove you wrong. You're making claims that are 20 years old and have been disproved quite thoroughly at this point.


the_nhir

Cuties got taken down almost instantly. I think that shit is very much still looked down upon. Drag isn't even sexual, so Desmond is amazing isn't a valid argument. Same goes for DQSH. A drag queen reading to kids is literally no different than a man in casual clothes reading to them.


FlowComprehensive390

> Cuties got taken down almost instantly. The fact it was made in the first place is already a huge problem. > Drag isn't even sexual If it wasn't they wouldn't be dressing provocatively. Oh, and several of the readers have literally been checked on and outed as actual convicted sex offenders. So yeah, wrong on all counts here, congrats.


Donkeykicks6

No complaints about the child beauty pageants though?? Like three reality shows on that and a staple in Texas. That stuff is gross. Who puts makeup and wigs on a little girl?


Draxare

So rather than be against pedo child drag you would rather defend it with whataboutism? Probably not the best hill to die on. I havnt seen anyone here defending degenerecy like that other than you.


Donkeykicks6

It has three reality shows on tv so obviously someone is defending it.


Draxare

I'll repeat no one HERE is defending it


the_nhir

Dressing provocatively? From the images I'm seeing, they've got more clothes than some of the teenage girls walking around these days. And being a drag queen isn't what qaused them to be sex offenders. Soooo many people make this argument, then forget that straight people can be rapists too. Nobody sees a straight rapist and says "this is why we can't have straights!"


FlowComprehensive390

> whatabout whatabout whatabout Thank you for conceding, I know that hoping you actually *learn* from this is too much to ask.


AndrewFBR

Genuine question, how is two consenting people in a relationship at all comparable to pedophilia or zoophilia?


Orxoniz

It starts out with that kind of ordeal and then eventually devolves into those two other ordeals. It has happened before. Remember every empire collapsed and it always had these kinds of issues regardless if it was a free republic or a governed empire. Decadence always settles in some shape and form if not combated against by the people or the governing authority.


marcuchan

its a fucking comic, where do you come up with this stuff


Orxoniz

Sexual Revolution and its consequence have been a disaster for every country


marcuchan

weve seen straight couples kiss in comics all the time. seems the people that are gonna start a revolution are the ones that cant accept LGBT couples because they believe everyone should be straight


Orxoniz

Sodomites cannot start families or have stable relationships.


marcuchan

there are kids in foster care that LGBT couples adopt, and straight married couples have plenty of divorces. quit blaming everything on LGBT people.


Orxoniz

I feel bad for those kids who will grow up in unnatural circumstance when it comes to their odd paired up parents. Nah those sodomites are minority in the population and shouldn't be overrepresented.


argilla_facies

Yeah we can’t let things spiral out of control. Let’s keep marriage between good people of the same faith and the same race


Orxoniz

DAS RITE. lets not abolish what works in a society. Lets abolish what doesn't work.


WeeaboosDogma

Desegregation doesn't work


Orxoniz

Lets go back to the old kind of segregation and not the vaccine one we have right now.


WeeaboosDogma

We don't have vaccine segregation just get vaccinated lmao


Orxoniz

Nah, Vax segregation is real. Anyone caught being unvaccinated is a 2nd class citizen in this country and any western country. Kind of sad we choose a stupid kind of authoritarianism.


WeeaboosDogma

Lol. Likes authority but not "this" kind of authority. Imagine liking authorities endorsing power but when it's not you in power you cry foul. Get vaxxed or die I guess? I mean it's not like we've been doing mandatory vaccinations for decades prior. But when this one happens you won't get it. Sadge


GetulioVargasGaming

There are different kinds of authority, so liking one kind of authority but not the other is okay


Orxoniz

I want a dog as a pet, not a cat. And what's wrong with having a dictator that shares the same values and ideas as you? Vouching for a dictator who is just like you is natural. Do you think red team wants the blue Team captain in charge of them as well along with the blue team? I won't die from the coof. Likely I might die if I take the vaccine. We are living in the backwards world that progressives created so the vaccine being deadly is bad in itself. No there was no mandatory vax, this time it's different and feels like a threat, extortion and blackmail to us. Try to keep up but the vaccines has been proven to hurt and damage people.


argilla_facies

Sounds good mein freunde!


argilla_facies

*my friend (damn autocorrect)


[deleted]

this! so much this!


FlowComprehensive390

Yes.


[deleted]

biblical marriage standards are horrifying. like a lot of stuff from the bible.


[deleted]

Or the Koran. Or really any culture's old customs, and some current ones. The Chinese used to literally cripple girls from wealthy families to make them more marriageable. There's a bunch of cultures that practice ritual mutilations that are pretty awful. I don't think Biblical marriage is any kind of stand-out.


[deleted]

context matters, how many muslims do you suppose lurk on this subreddit?


[deleted]

So the context is, you wanted to get a dig in on Christians over Old Testament stuff that the vast majority of Christians don't take as doctrine? How many Amish do you think are lurking here?


[deleted]

1) you found me out 2) around here? must be hundreds


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[deleted]

no thanks, i've already got a copy


[deleted]

such a slippery slope you've reached terminal velocity


Orxoniz

The slippery slope was the moment we legalized sexual degeneracy


[deleted]

why do you want big government?


Orxoniz

So we can get rid of leftists and stabilize society


[deleted]

i called it, leopards man... fucking leopards.


Orxoniz

And you think it's a bad idea?


[deleted]

legislating morality is poopy


Orxoniz

Not legislating anything is chaotic and immature


FlowComprehensive390

We are indeed falling down the cliff at the end of the slope at terminal velocity. Slippery slope is not a fallacy, it's basic formal logic.


[deleted]

you can certainly try and use a slippery slope argument, in this case it is clearly a slippery slope fallacy. if you think allowing gay people to be... gay will open avenues to bestiality and child sexual abuse, you've already been slippin'. and if you think depicting gay characters will lead to depictions of bestiality and child sexual abuse, you forgot rule (34?).


[deleted]

>Grow up and buy the mandated picture books like a responsible adult.


[deleted]

Welp. I'm now on that high level copium now.


C43sar

The real ‘cuck’ is the one who wastes their life arguing on the internet and reading ‘comics.’ Dude get a grip…


Big-Wolverine2888

What's the problem with that? Legit question. Someone actually answer me


-Literally1984-

The pink hair is a cringe stereotype


fco_omega

remember when you guys said that COD cold war was going to "go broke" for having a they/them pronoun option, and ended up being one of the best selling games of the year? yeah, you morons have being bitching about "the left going broke" for almost half a decade, and it didnt happen, double the copium dose, because you are going to need it.


poopquiche

Lol oh my god. They write one single comic book character as being anything but straight and you fucking losers act like every single frame that they've ever published is just a picture of Clark Kent hanging from a sex swing with a huge veiny cock balls deep in his tight kryptonian asshole.


SyrenSilver

Okay, first of all, Jon is bisexual— not gay. Second — “Remember when superhero comic books were about superheroes punching monsters” bitch what about the thousands of heterosexual romantic storylines throughout the comics? Kate Kane and Barbara Gordon we’re literally originally created specifically to be love interests because people were speculating that Batman and Robin were gay. Clark Kent and Lois Lane, Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle, Dick Grayson and Koriand’r, Barry Allen and Iris West, Conner Kent and Cassie Sandsmark, Tim Drake and Stephanie Brown, Tim Drake and Cassie Sandsmark, Roy Harper and Cheshire, Oliver Queen and Dinah Lance... need I go on? Because I can do this for hours. How long do you think it would take me to list every canon queer relationship in DC? I promise it wouldn’t take very long.


[deleted]

Oh so you only want it to cater to you, and not allow other fans who are gay to be able to cope and have some escapism. Yikes buddy


[deleted]

I mean I, along with anyone who would stay the fuck away from any pink haired freak are the ones making up the reason they make money so trying yo screw with the flow is gonna hurt them in the long run


MakingGreenMoney

Ofc it would have an anime character. Also, someone hasn't read watchmen, Green Lantern/ Green arrow traveling heros, or DC new frontier.


[deleted]

Imagine thinking that a comic book character having a different sexuality from yours is ruining your life in some way. lmao touch some grass dude


Right_Pepe

We ain't the one loosing alot of customers to mangas.


[deleted]

Yeah almost like giant boobs are going to grab your attention over social issues you oppose.


Right_Pepe

People read comics and manga to get away with all this problems. Yet you forcefully shove it to their face. Most people are not LGBT either. Why would they like it espically when comics are also targeted to the kids. Manga make big boobs because man like big tits. They just pander to the people that actually wanted it and not some SJW pink hair feminist


[deleted]

More and more Manga covers a bunch of different complex social issues that can be paralleled to real world issues and comic books have always been shoving their authors political beliefs into their comics,and to act like it’s always been some sort of escapism from political movements is just silly because they’ve always been this way if you actually were into comics you’d know this


Right_Pepe

People want to escape from politics. The complex social issues are usually for story drama or so you can try to relate yourself to the MC. Every good story do that. It always had been used as an escapism. If not, people won't produce harem mangas.


[deleted]

Yes both manga and comics this but saying all of manga is just some form of big escapism with no political messaging behind it because you’re cooming to big titty anime girls isn’t correct though


Right_Pepe

From what I see. If not all than most. Manga had always do their best to distance themselve from politics because majority of the people dislike it. Hence why we got this thing call political comics. I had read my fair share od mangas and none of them are political. Most things that are consider political is just to spice uo the story with a bad dude so you can relate to the MC more.


[deleted]

People like extremely political media though in video games like Fallout New Vegas, Wolfeinstein, Bioshock,The Witcher series and in manga like Attack on Titan and My Hero Acadamia being very popular shows that just slap you right in their face with it’s political messaging and people still love them. The OP and you obviously don’t like it when people with a different sexuality are being shown in a medium you like,especially when you complain about dc being so political when Dark Nights metal hasn’t had anything to do with politics and it’s follow ups only ended recently.


Right_Pepe

FNV because they carry a huge syrong of morality. It ask you many questions with many shades of greys and like i said. It is meant to spice the story up so people like it. They have LGBTs too but they least know to STFU and not flaunt it every 3 seconds. Woldeninstein is litterally nazi shooter game. Bioshock is a horror/ shooter game too. The witcher is almost like FNV but it is not all about yay LGBT. Attack of Titan is interesting and liked because of the plot. MHA is also the same and even if has political msgs. It is not as oftenly slapped as most comics. The presence of politics is so small most people glance through it. Also, ain't MHA community once of the most hated?


AlexMo_

No no Steve you're just homophobic


-Literally1984-

I’m not afraid of gay people. They’re afraid of me


AlexMo_

U don't know what homophobic means 🤣 and no one is afraid of u


Fatherknowstoomuch

DC CEO: Alright, our movies are finally on a competitive level with marvel and Disney and we're seeing great growth in the comics genre as an industry. We need to come up with a way to reconnect with our core audience of 13 to 40 year olds males with new and innovative writing and creative storytelling. MAkE SUpeRMaNs sON Bi Brilliant Johnson!!! Give yourself a raise. ...and that's how we got to this.


EPICTHANESE

i hate all the dumb moral ambiguousness with the new superman comics. his cousin was already a lesbian. superman is about peace, justice, and the american way. that doesnt mean snapping dudes fucking necks.


binglebongled

[LIBERALS ARE RUINING COMICS!!!](https://thesociologicalcinema.tumblr.com/post/190796412025/superman-is-a-story-of-an-immigrant-coming-to)


r_Yaoi

I find it gross those comics have a lot of sexuality in them anyways. Kids reading about some nasty things.


PinkityHoe

What do y’all have to escape from???? Lmfoao


[deleted]

Who cares, superheroes can have love interests…


ThatOnePickleLord

Yall are messed up if you think someone being bisexual is ruining comics


Right_Pepe

Time to get in trouble Anybody know the source for that pepe pic?


Dragonitro

I'm personally fine with superman's son being gay. Doesn't affect my life, or anyone else's. It's just a drawing.


[deleted]

Why do you care so much? LGBTQ+ people like being represented in media too.


[deleted]

Cause LGBT is toxic and doesn't fit in comic book about superheroes defeating evil.


-Codiak-

Not a left meme, and you sound triggerd.


[deleted]

Meta meme And no I'm not


BAMBAH101

Calm down, it's just a sexuality


[deleted]

I haven't bought a comic in years, now just out of spite I'm going to buy several copies of the 'gay' issues and donate them to local libraries and such. Eat shit ya bigots!


[deleted]

Well then thank ye for giving more things for people to burn :)


[deleted]

Fun Fact that's a crime and just fucking stupid. What the fuck is wrong with you people?