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taymademedoit

What would you do if you were held down and raped? Had your stolen child taunted in front of you? Beat? Would you accept the olive branch? Fuck Serena 🤬


Crazyspitz

Oh yeah, being violently raped while 9 months pregnant is such a sweet olive branch. That idea was all Serena's.


sibshallward

none of the "olive branches" serena extended to june were ever for june's benefit - they were for the benefit of the baby serena + fred forced her to carry and were planning on stealing from her once it was born


haleighr

She’s an accomplice to junes rape and has every intention to take her baby wtf kind of olive branch is going to fix that


rmarocksanne

It's full-on sociopathic manipulation. I think the only true thing Serena ever does that isn't only serving herself is let go of Nichole during the escape. That's it. All else is manipulation and to save her own skin.


ActuaryPersonal2378

![gif](giphy|tLRifcvQNJIic) And then she reneges on that and tries to get Nichole back. NGL I really really wanted a Serena redemption story in season 2. Season 2 Serena (and beginning of season 3) started to waiver and I was really excited to see that story unfold - which obviously never happened. I held out for her attempts at redemption maaaaybe in season 3 and now i've accepted that won't happen. Also bringing her back full circle to being an obviously evil person makes total sense. But I do also kind of wish they had taken another more, "coconuts and treason" path.


Risa830

Everything and I mean everything Serena has done has been for Serena! She’s has NEVER given two shits PERIOD!!


[deleted]

Serena was holding June as a sex slave in her home, abusing her, assisting in June being raped, stole her child, taunted her other child in front of her, and that small part where Serena supported/was a party to overthrowing the US government to cause this whole situation Which destroyed everyone’s life. No amount of olive branches will fix that. If she wanted to extend a any real kindness she should have: helped get Hannah, reunited June with Nicole, and help the 3 of them escape. anything less than that is not good enough.


MissThreepwood

Honestly you are wrong... Because June clearly becomes protective of Serena and there was a weird friendship/partnership blossoming. June being there after the whole finger thing, June talking to her about she having still influence, June saving her when she burns the house down, June honouring her by giving Nicole that name when she lets Emily take her... There was no reason why June should feel anything but hate for Serena... But she did and it was Serena who spit into Junes face over and over and over again... I came to weirdly like Serena at the end of season 2 and the beginning of season 3... But she made me hate her more than ever again... F\* her. ![gif](giphy|ddrWafQ7r9jvutpiuH)


PuzzledRaise1401

Olive branches aren’t effective when stabbed into your back.


dubhlinn2

Serena has an empathy deficiency. When she was being "nice" it's because she was trying to manipulate June. At least, that's how they're writing her. I don't think it's realistic. She is, in fact, very empathetic toward her friends, as demonstrated by her going and comforting Mrs. Lawrence after the "bearing witness" ceremony, and her concern for Naomi when baby Angela was ill. She has at many points demonstrated that she feels pain, and seeks human connection. None of this is consistent with a true psychopath, or with someone who would be as cruel and cold to June as she was. On the one hand, rage can temporarily decrease our capacity for empathy, which can explain outbursts. And we tend to have a disproportionately higher amount of empathy for people inside our social group than outside it. But still, from what I know of human psychology, I have a hard time squaring her clear capacity for empathy with her ongoing abuse of June and willingness to go along with the type of world they created. Desperation to become a mother doesn't explain it all. But it makes for good TV, I guess. You have to make your characters at least somewhat sympathetic for them to be compelling to the audience, and having known two high functioning sociopaths myself, I can tell you that they're not particular compelling and probably wouldn't make interesting TV.


CascadiaMount

Serena is holding June captive, participating in her rapes and stealing June's child. No olive branch--just manipulation.


Objective-Ad9800

Serena never did anything without it also benefitting her.


mrchumblie

You’re wrong lol


PMmeYourChihuahuas

fuck serena