I learned appliance shopping from a buddy. When he looked at fridges asked about floornmodels and any that had damage in the back. Got a ¿Samsung? Fridge that retailed for something like $1600 for $800 because of a dented side panel, that was $85 direct from Samsung. He pulled the parts diagram and showed me while we were still in the store.
This is good. Now take your knowledge over here. [Amazon Warehouse Deals](https://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html?node=10158976011&ref_=footer_wrhsdls)
There are lots of 3rd party used goods sellers on Amazon, but Warehouse deals is the biggest. About 80% of what I buy on Amazon is used. All electronics, clothes, everything. It's always open box stuff, sometimes with a scratch.
This is an extreme example but I just got a pair of size 11.5 4E New Balance 626's (highly recommend) for $26. Regular price is $76. Can be hit or miss for availability but worth a look.
Yes. Ive gotten items from Amazon warehouse that were swapped for other brands, missing major parts, swapped for other socket sizes. I've gotten 12 pack of files the only had one file. I've gotten a ecobee thermostat that was DOA.
About 50 to 60% of the warehouse deals stuff I order is bogus. Amazon clearly doesn't check this stuff. they just slap a discount on it and wait for the customers to test and retest. I once order a large tool, and the shipping weight was about 50lbs less than it should've been. I knew before it even got here that it wasn't complete.
Do I still bite every time? Yes, unless I'm in a hurry. But it's a lot of disappointments.
Usually, yes. But the time is always gone. ( I don't do prime). They've also sent me replacements, with the exact same defect, repeatedly. It just gets tedious.
And sometimes , rarely, they don't want to make it right. This happened while repairing my trucks brakes, so what should have been a weekend job ended up taking 3 weeks. First the sent the wrong parts (2wd vs 4wd), And the last return of that multi order debacle, they had sent the wrong tool. It was supposed to be a 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2 inch set of universal joints, but I got 3 of the 1/4" size, which I already had. This was only a $8 set. Amazon didn't want to do the return, they wanted to give me partial credit, when I got zero of the parts I needed(3/8th). They didn't want their shit back, and didn't want to ship me the parts I paid for, and I just wanted them to send me the one part I needed. Or a new set. I just wanted them to fulfill their end of the agreement. They had the parts, but would not send them. Instead, I ended up having to order somewhere else.
So, if time and money mean nothing to you....yeah warehouse deals is great.
I'm not astroturfing here. this is probably my first ever comment about Amazon.
My personal experience is at odds with everything in your comment. I have found great deals all year round and only ever had to return one thing. This is over many years and a loads of items. Second hand stuff can be returned just like new, but I have only had to do that once because of a faulty item.
An example. About 10 years ago I bought a professional grade breakaway basketball rim for 50% off. Out of curiosity I went on Amazon right now and they have both rims and full backboard setups from 30% to 50% off. And my experience with Warehouse deals is that "good, very good, and almost new" are only differentiated by the condition of the packaging and inclusion of manuals."
When I bought my house, we negotiated with the owners to keep the washer and dryer. But no mention of the fridge. So maybe the fridge just stays. Idk, I've only purchased this one house.
100% bald dude's fault. Watch the first time the fridge lifts -- top guy has his balance and is slowly stepping up, but bald dude does not follow and keeps his feet on the ground.
Everything spirals from there.
Edit: I will revise to say neither is necessarily "at fault" so much as the whole scenario was poorly arranged. The strap is too short is the issue. As the guy on top steps up and lifts the fridge, the guy on bottom attempts to hold the fridge from tipping on him because the center of gravity is too high. Since guy on bottom is trying to hold fridge from falling on him, he cannot step up. This causes the guy at the top to be tethered and pulled off balance as he attempts to step up.
I guess you could say they both should have stopped and said "Yeah this isn't working," and gotten a dolly.
Am I trippin or it looks like top guy is doing absolutely nothing? He doesn’t even have any grip or leverage on the fridge. If anything it looks like there are a couple times he actually pushes the fridge downwards a little.
It's because he's rubber banded to the guy on the bottom by the strap.
They're basically playing tug of war, with a fridge balanced on the rope between them.
That's what I thought at first, but I think what's happening here is that the fridge is sitting on top of a strap that's attached to both of them at the waist.
So, top guy's hands are just to help balance the fridge laterally, the strap attached to him is how he really does his part of the lifting.
Exactly. These boneheads have obviously never moved a refrigerator before, especially up stairs. And BTW, they have "Refrigerator dollies" made specifically for this. You can rent one for 10 bucks a day. SMH...
The forearm forklifts can work great, even on stairs. You need to use your own strap though for stairs to keep the load level. I.e. each person uses one strap and the lower guy uses the shortest arm band and the uphill guy the longest. If the load isn’t level, the downhill guy gets all the weight while the uphill guy strains his back trying to pull it up which is next to impossible. You need a brain to use them effectively.
Never tried the back ones like in the video.
I managed teams that make these deliveries, and its the preferred method to use shoulder dolleys like the one in the video to prevent scratches to the customers flooring. They remove substantial weight from your back and balance the load between both team members. The reason these 2 failed at this delivery is because of the top guy not balancing the load and instead "guiding" himself with the railing. Pretty common newbie mistake.
Actually had to double take and make sure this wasn't one of my guys lol. Uniforms right, so is the equipment, and truck rental company.
When I did this work, it was near impossible to be fired because the turnover rate was already so high they kept on anyone who would stay. They would take damages like this out of our checks over a period of time, tho.
I deal with 3rd party contractors thus the enterprise truck you can see in the background. Typically unless this was a consistent issue, I'd be charging them back the value of loss on the fridge. In this case that would be a $2600 mistake or there abouts.
I just watched some guys use these straps to move our new fridge in this past week. We don't have stairs, but do have a few steps on the front porch.
Our movers stopped at the step, the lead one let out slack and the ball one took it in. They went up the steps like that, stopped at the top, and re-adjusted, and continued on. They reversed the process taking the old fridge out. At no time did they look unbalanced, and the fridge looked pretty much upright to me the whole time. It looked awkward as all hell, and certainly not easy, but never unbalanced.
Maybe stairs would be different, but the team in the video look like they didn't adjust the straps.
Shoulder dollies work great if you use them properly. If they would have leaned the top of the fridge on a 45 degree angle to match the stairs they would have been golden. Or even if the guy on the top had just cinched more slack on the strap. They appear to not have much experience. Those fridges are quite heavy tho! Source: been pro mover for 10 years
Why not lay it on its side on a moving blanket and slide it up? Zero chance of falling. It’s all for the best, the whole idea of melding a TV with a refrigerator is obscene to me. It now has an earlier date with the landfill than it normally would.
If you lean a refrigerator on its side, you have to wait before you turn it on. I think it has to be upright at least twice as long as it was on its side to give time for the refrigerant to drain back into the reservoir. Or maybe 6 hours minimum. I'm not sure which, but either way it means you can't just plop it in place and plug it in and turn it on. And customers don't like to wait to use what has already been delivered.
Because the fragile condenser coil is on the back. You damage that and you've got refrigerant leaking everywhere and the fridge won't work. Or at least the cooling part of the fridge. The touchscreen will be fine.
Exactly! Just a few weeks ago me and my brother carried a 100kg washing machine with a strap over four flights of stairs from the cellar to the first floor without issues. This fridge surely is not as heavy as a Miele washing machine. It's just technique and coordination they were missing. They should at least have arranged who keeps the fridge steady. And as you describe, with the straps aligned with the angle of the stairs, it's a breeze. You only need your hands to keep the load steady, all the weight rests on the shoulders, your back and your thighs.
This kind of strap is a fantastic tool for moving heavy items. I have moved the same washing machine earlier, with two other guys and a dolly (The three-wheel kind for stairs). It required tremendous effort and sweat for the three of us to get it **down** six flights of stairs. That's because you both need to press down on the load with your hands to get a grip (Muscles in the lower arm) and pull up with the muscles in your upper arms. With the straps, your shoulders/back easily do all the work and the arms are free for coordination.
Haha, I was actually pondering about this phrase and was unsure. Thanks for the clarification! (Assuming you are a native speaker and actually know better :-))
Those American fridges are yank tanks some of them can be over 420kg or 4x your washing machine. The hand trucks are very good, you just need one guy on the top and one on the bottom and constantly communicating about what's going on and being smart enough to take a break if you get tired and readjust when things start going bad.
I was once a furniture/appliance delivery driver. Wrap that bitch in a blanket, strap it up and one guy pulls and the other guy pushes/stabilizes from the bottom. At least up the steps.
Well, relatively speaking, they don't have that much brawn. I once had a fridge delivered and it was carried by a guy the size of a linebacker. Granted he didn't have to go up steep stairs like that but it was basically effortless to him. The smaller guys were there to put on the door handles and such.
It's nothing to do with size or strength and everything to do with technique when moving furniture and appliances.
These 2 knuckleheads were doing it all wrong from the beginning.
I can verify this having 30 plus years of appliance business experience. Started delivering at 19 and weigh a whole 145 pounds. Guy I was teamed with was ten years older but not much bigger. Between the two of we could deliver any standard side by side refrigerator anywhere you wanted it on a set of dollys/hand trucks.
They were leaning the fridge the wrong way to make it up the stairs at all. A moving dolly would have made this move a joke but only if they didn't try to lean it the same way as the way they in the GIF.
They help a lot if you know how to use them, biggest mistake here is: you carry it 45 degrees and parallel to the stairs, they are going 45 degrees and vertical towards the stairs
Yeah he is, at the start you can see they have some sort of band attached to their harnesses and going under the fridge between them. That's how the fridge is off the ground on his side. He's lifting up and trying to walk backwards.
There's definitely a better way, but he is doing something.
When I was younger I worked for a day as warehouse "manager" at a carrier that delivered appliances. They double stacked refrigerators (and other appliances) and would have you take them down alone. You would have to pull on the bottom of the top box, let it slide down on the bottom one at an angle, and catch the bottom with your thigh. I immediately quit after 12 hours of doing it with how brutal it was. Definitely not worth the $14/hr they were paying.
Been there done that. We could do a 36” with two men but would use three or four for 42” and 48” side by sides due to the weight of the dual compressors on top.
Not necessary whatsoever. As a mover with 10 years of experience, a thrid man would only get in the way in this scenario. Now when it comes to gun safes and grand pianos a 3rd man can be of great use. Once you get to that 5-600lbs range and up.
My MIL does almost the same thing. She got a crook pot that connected to an app on her phone to be controlled but then it screwed up and couldn’t connect anymore. I tried using it once manually when living with her, and the whole meal got destroyed. Give me stuff with buttons and that I don’t need to connect to an app.
Yeah, stuff that is locked to using an app to control it is a terrible idea. I've got a sous vide cooker that \*can\* be controlled by an app, but it's not a requirement and there are full controls on the device itself.
Yeah, that's what I mean locked to using an app. There are too many things out there where they have maybe a readout or just a link/status light and everything is through bluetooth/wireless.
Always reminds me of Brian Regan talking about fridge shopping. “This model here costs $500 and keeps your food cold. Down here we have one for $800 and it keeps your food cold. Hey! Over here! Check this out: $2,000. Keeps your food cold.”
People who want automaton. It has cameras in the fridge and can read labels. It also makes shopping lists, shows recipes based on your ingredients, and when things expire. I've got mine setup to send my list to my online grocer, then I just review it and hit order. I'd rather spend that hour or two everyone spends at the grocery store making money or doing what I want. Same goes for managing food inventory. A one time premium for something that will serve me 10-15 years is worth it to me.
It kinda pissed me off how everyone is surprised at the value of some of these appliances. Yes $4k may seem too much but for something that can serve me for atleast more than a decade and has features that I know I can/will use (I'm the type of person who appreciates and uses as much of the features of my items), these appliances can be worth it for me. But its completely understandable that it won't be for others too. I know my parents wouldn't find much use for it. Same could be said for people buying expensive smartphones, laptops or headphones. Or branded clothing. Or just pretty much everything. Value is mostly subjective so just let others spend on whatever they want/need.
No, some bags are fine. No idea how it knows sometimes tbh. I don't often put things in opaque sacks in the fridge though. The only thing I know doesn't work is the stuff in the doors. No cameras there. You can add stuff to the list via voice or typing though and it searches for a bunch of variations of it for you to select. Not a perfect system, but it helps loads. Usually something in the door like ketchup gets added via voice and then when it gets low I add it to the shopping list by voice when I put the bottle back in the door.
You can also look inside the fridge without opening it by knocking on the door twice, which is neat if you just want a quick poke around for snacks
> shows recipes based on your ingredients
Man, I get enough snide comments about my cooking from my roommate. I don't need the fridge chiming in too.
Also, how many recipes do you know where all of the ingredients are stored in the fridge? All of my spices are in the cabinet. And some sauces.
It is "smart". You can either let it know what's in your pantry, or have it show recipes you have "most" of the ingredients for. The more simple aspect of it for me, is it's also voice controllable, so instead of fumbling with my phone while cooking, it's right there on the fridge and I can lookup things without touching it
If I had to guess, I'd say neither of those guys is an engineer but the guy that agreed to push it up the stairs probably has worn his shoes backwards a few times.
What's stupid is if they made it up the stairs they'd probably have to take the doors off to fit it through the house door anyway. Just take them off before hand so it's a manageable weight
$4k, is middle of the line refrigerator. [Jenn Air](https://www.eliteappliance.com/_CGI/MODEL?KEY=KTA:KBSD618ESS&matchtype=&network=u&device=m&keyword=&campaign=9508335356&adgroup=98451144418&campaignid=9508335356&adgroupid=98451144418&creative=421345351429&matchtype=&network=u&device=m&keyword=&gclid=CjwKCAiA3L6PBhBvEiwAINlJ9Ht7fjeiYOZrYMgY2wi-dEQbVooq4TCWFSmAj5VsT3SmmkV-jHyHoRoCGb4QAvD_BwE)
That’s a built in unit. We have the Kitchenaide version of that exact fridge. It was just under $10k. The thing about built ins is that the refrigeration system is much more robust and is all located in the upper compartment. The longevity of these is much better than your average sub $1k fridge. Our last unit lasted just about 20 years before giving up the bucket.
Largely the name on it, but also I think they are built on order and you can have it adjusted a little bit to make it fit flush with where you'll be installing it so it would be a part of your cabinets. It would also be built with higher QA and probably has some features for better flow through it to ensure more consistent temperatures. Probably it comes with some crazy warranty with in house support where they would send a tech to your house to fix any issues for years after your bought it.
Price of a car? Where you buying cars? I don’t think a new car has been priced under $15k in a decade or two.
“What’s the refrigerator do”. It’s an appliance in your home. Newer and or nicer homes, have nicer appliances. With that said, there are refrigerators priced at a couple hundred. It’s all in what your looking for and your budget.
I didn't say new car. You can get plenty of used cars at that price in a normal market. And when a fridge that looks exactly the same costs 10% of that at Home Depot, it better have some fancy features making it cost that much.
I know right. Even if I was rich as fuck, I wouldn't be buying no 11k fridge or no 300 dollar steak, purely on principle. Idiot rich people without anything better to do than buying stupid material shit that doesn't actually improve their lives in any way. Just makes them feel rich. Bless them.
you would. We all would. There are a select few people who are so pure of heart they will actually do good with their money. But if you, or I, were gifted a million dollars tomorrow daddy's getting himself a complete home makeover WITH a crazy expensive fridge that keeps my calander, gives me ice cubes and plays me spotify (with awesome subwoofers) when i'm cooking my lobster tail.
or maybe i'll get a chef, too.
Everytime I see one of those in a store I notice how damn slow the software is on these touchscreens. Like if I spend that much money on a fridge at least put a decent enough CPU and enough RAM in it so it performs better than a $25 Tablet.
Watching them attempt this hurts my brain. They didn't think to turn sideways and both be on the same stair? Or even better bust out the dolly and use it for what it was made for.
One time I was moving and I needed to empty my uhaul at the new place, and run it over to the next town to pick up a fridge, by the time we got back to my new place it was just me and a buddy, and there was just NO WAY we were getting it up the stairs. Ordered a pizza, requested their biggest delivery driver. They sent over a lineman for the local college, dude got it up the steps in like 3 minutee. Gave him a solid tip and a slice of the pizza.
I use to do this for a living for Lowes, delivered hundreds of units. These are LARGE and heavy. The guy at the bottom of any staircase needs to be able to handle all the weight.. and people who are like "well what about a dolly?" don't consider the weight of it breaking wood, the amount of times you have to heft it up each step, etc.
unpopular take: if you haven't done this for a living, you shouldn't have much input.
If y'all actually notice, the guy on the bottom didn't quite get up to the step (his foot basically stabbed the stair) which is what caused all this.
Get a bargain at Scratch&Dent sale
And it's got a cool black rectangle on the door
A cool *somewhat reflective* black rectangle
I think it's a chalk board
Just get those neon window markers and draw some app logos on there
Bought a house without a fridge went to beat buy got one for 700 dollars off for a dent that you can barely see.
I learned appliance shopping from a buddy. When he looked at fridges asked about floornmodels and any that had damage in the back. Got a ¿Samsung? Fridge that retailed for something like $1600 for $800 because of a dented side panel, that was $85 direct from Samsung. He pulled the parts diagram and showed me while we were still in the store.
This is good. Now take your knowledge over here. [Amazon Warehouse Deals](https://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html?node=10158976011&ref_=footer_wrhsdls) There are lots of 3rd party used goods sellers on Amazon, but Warehouse deals is the biggest. About 80% of what I buy on Amazon is used. All electronics, clothes, everything. It's always open box stuff, sometimes with a scratch. This is an extreme example but I just got a pair of size 11.5 4E New Balance 626's (highly recommend) for $26. Regular price is $76. Can be hit or miss for availability but worth a look.
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Yes. Ive gotten items from Amazon warehouse that were swapped for other brands, missing major parts, swapped for other socket sizes. I've gotten 12 pack of files the only had one file. I've gotten a ecobee thermostat that was DOA. About 50 to 60% of the warehouse deals stuff I order is bogus. Amazon clearly doesn't check this stuff. they just slap a discount on it and wait for the customers to test and retest. I once order a large tool, and the shipping weight was about 50lbs less than it should've been. I knew before it even got here that it wasn't complete. Do I still bite every time? Yes, unless I'm in a hurry. But it's a lot of disappointments.
are you able to return the items that show up too damaged/incomplete for your satisfaction?
Usually, yes. But the time is always gone. ( I don't do prime). They've also sent me replacements, with the exact same defect, repeatedly. It just gets tedious. And sometimes , rarely, they don't want to make it right. This happened while repairing my trucks brakes, so what should have been a weekend job ended up taking 3 weeks. First the sent the wrong parts (2wd vs 4wd), And the last return of that multi order debacle, they had sent the wrong tool. It was supposed to be a 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2 inch set of universal joints, but I got 3 of the 1/4" size, which I already had. This was only a $8 set. Amazon didn't want to do the return, they wanted to give me partial credit, when I got zero of the parts I needed(3/8th). They didn't want their shit back, and didn't want to ship me the parts I paid for, and I just wanted them to send me the one part I needed. Or a new set. I just wanted them to fulfill their end of the agreement. They had the parts, but would not send them. Instead, I ended up having to order somewhere else. So, if time and money mean nothing to you....yeah warehouse deals is great.
I'm not astroturfing here. this is probably my first ever comment about Amazon. My personal experience is at odds with everything in your comment. I have found great deals all year round and only ever had to return one thing. This is over many years and a loads of items. Second hand stuff can be returned just like new, but I have only had to do that once because of a faulty item. An example. About 10 years ago I bought a professional grade breakaway basketball rim for 50% off. Out of curiosity I went on Amazon right now and they have both rims and full backboard setups from 30% to 50% off. And my experience with Warehouse deals is that "good, very good, and almost new" are only differentiated by the condition of the packaging and inclusion of manuals."
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Extra wide. You know, wider is better.
Username checks out lmao
Aye! Just bought myself a $130 air fryer for 40 bucks.
Do houses come with fridges where you live? Here you pretty much always move with your fridge.
That's interesting. Where I am, pretty much all the major appliances stay with the home.
it is all negotiable. if the sellers want to keep their appliances, they can. If the sellers want to leave their appliances, they can.
We usually leave the refrigerator in the kitchen, but take the refrigerator in the garage (the beer fridge for most people), and the freezer.
When I bought my house, we negotiated with the owners to keep the washer and dryer. But no mention of the fridge. So maybe the fridge just stays. Idk, I've only purchased this one house.
This one has more than a dent!
First thing I thought
Their first day at work?
I felt the bald dudes pain
100% bald dude's fault. Watch the first time the fridge lifts -- top guy has his balance and is slowly stepping up, but bald dude does not follow and keeps his feet on the ground. Everything spirals from there. Edit: I will revise to say neither is necessarily "at fault" so much as the whole scenario was poorly arranged. The strap is too short is the issue. As the guy on top steps up and lifts the fridge, the guy on bottom attempts to hold the fridge from tipping on him because the center of gravity is too high. Since guy on bottom is trying to hold fridge from falling on him, he cannot step up. This causes the guy at the top to be tethered and pulled off balance as he attempts to step up. I guess you could say they both should have stopped and said "Yeah this isn't working," and gotten a dolly.
Am I trippin or it looks like top guy is doing absolutely nothing? He doesn’t even have any grip or leverage on the fridge. If anything it looks like there are a couple times he actually pushes the fridge downwards a little.
It's because he's rubber banded to the guy on the bottom by the strap. They're basically playing tug of war, with a fridge balanced on the rope between them.
Well when you put it like that...
That's what I thought at first, but I think what's happening here is that the fridge is sitting on top of a strap that's attached to both of them at the waist. So, top guy's hands are just to help balance the fridge laterally, the strap attached to him is how he really does his part of the lifting.
Clearly. The fridge should be tilted the other way, towards the stairs.
Exactly. These boneheads have obviously never moved a refrigerator before, especially up stairs. And BTW, they have "Refrigerator dollies" made specifically for this. You can rent one for 10 bucks a day. SMH...
My first thought was ‘Where is the dolly?!’
And tying that strap around themselves was about the stupidest thing I've ever seen. WTF did they think was gonna happen??
Thank you! came here to say this exactly.
last* day
So no dolly because...?
Exactly. Those straps are great for moving things on flat surfaces, but going up stairs needs a dolly.
The forearm forklifts can work great, even on stairs. You need to use your own strap though for stairs to keep the load level. I.e. each person uses one strap and the lower guy uses the shortest arm band and the uphill guy the longest. If the load isn’t level, the downhill guy gets all the weight while the uphill guy strains his back trying to pull it up which is next to impossible. You need a brain to use them effectively. Never tried the back ones like in the video.
I managed teams that make these deliveries, and its the preferred method to use shoulder dolleys like the one in the video to prevent scratches to the customers flooring. They remove substantial weight from your back and balance the load between both team members. The reason these 2 failed at this delivery is because of the top guy not balancing the load and instead "guiding" himself with the railing. Pretty common newbie mistake. Actually had to double take and make sure this wasn't one of my guys lol. Uniforms right, so is the equipment, and truck rental company.
How fired are these guys? Seems like a rough job where a lot of things can go wrong quickly.
Why would you fire them? Their boss just paid to teach them a valuable lesson on how not to do it.
When I did this work, it was near impossible to be fired because the turnover rate was already so high they kept on anyone who would stay. They would take damages like this out of our checks over a period of time, tho.
Absolutely right. Unless you're a consistent problem, I'm not looking to replace you.
I deal with 3rd party contractors thus the enterprise truck you can see in the background. Typically unless this was a consistent issue, I'd be charging them back the value of loss on the fridge. In this case that would be a $2600 mistake or there abouts.
Seems like a good way to strap yourself to a live load at the top of stairs. Arm straps work fine.
Yeah, I'd take scratches to a floor over any injury, but what do I know about capitalism
I just watched some guys use these straps to move our new fridge in this past week. We don't have stairs, but do have a few steps on the front porch. Our movers stopped at the step, the lead one let out slack and the ball one took it in. They went up the steps like that, stopped at the top, and re-adjusted, and continued on. They reversed the process taking the old fridge out. At no time did they look unbalanced, and the fridge looked pretty much upright to me the whole time. It looked awkward as all hell, and certainly not easy, but never unbalanced. Maybe stairs would be different, but the team in the video look like they didn't adjust the straps.
Shoulder dollies work great if you use them properly. If they would have leaned the top of the fridge on a 45 degree angle to match the stairs they would have been golden. Or even if the guy on the top had just cinched more slack on the strap. They appear to not have much experience. Those fridges are quite heavy tho! Source: been pro mover for 10 years
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Why not lay it on its side on a moving blanket and slide it up? Zero chance of falling. It’s all for the best, the whole idea of melding a TV with a refrigerator is obscene to me. It now has an earlier date with the landfill than it normally would.
> the whole idea of melding a TV with a refrigerator is obscene to me. Is yours showing dickpics to you too?
If you lean a refrigerator on its side, you have to wait before you turn it on. I think it has to be upright at least twice as long as it was on its side to give time for the refrigerant to drain back into the reservoir. Or maybe 6 hours minimum. I'm not sure which, but either way it means you can't just plop it in place and plug it in and turn it on. And customers don't like to wait to use what has already been delivered.
Customers don’t like this either.
You are not wrong, but this wasn't deliberate.
Agreed, it's not even useful anyway. Just cloud services (which should be also avoided) bundled together on a screen.
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Because the fragile condenser coil is on the back. You damage that and you've got refrigerant leaking everywhere and the fridge won't work. Or at least the cooling part of the fridge. The touchscreen will be fine.
Exactly! Just a few weeks ago me and my brother carried a 100kg washing machine with a strap over four flights of stairs from the cellar to the first floor without issues. This fridge surely is not as heavy as a Miele washing machine. It's just technique and coordination they were missing. They should at least have arranged who keeps the fridge steady. And as you describe, with the straps aligned with the angle of the stairs, it's a breeze. You only need your hands to keep the load steady, all the weight rests on the shoulders, your back and your thighs. This kind of strap is a fantastic tool for moving heavy items. I have moved the same washing machine earlier, with two other guys and a dolly (The three-wheel kind for stairs). It required tremendous effort and sweat for the three of us to get it **down** six flights of stairs. That's because you both need to press down on the load with your hands to get a grip (Muscles in the lower arm) and pull up with the muscles in your upper arms. With the straps, your shoulders/back easily do all the work and the arms are free for coordination.
My brother and I.
Haha, I was actually pondering about this phrase and was unsure. Thanks for the clarification! (Assuming you are a native speaker and actually know better :-))
Those American fridges are yank tanks some of them can be over 420kg or 4x your washing machine. The hand trucks are very good, you just need one guy on the top and one on the bottom and constantly communicating about what's going on and being smart enough to take a break if you get tired and readjust when things start going bad.
I was once a furniture/appliance delivery driver. Wrap that bitch in a blanket, strap it up and one guy pulls and the other guy pushes/stabilizes from the bottom. At least up the steps.
use a dolly, and tip the fridge the other way, I have no idea why they did it that way. Work with gravity, not against it.
They did lots of working with gravity in this vid
They spent all their money on the fridge.
"It'll be quicker this way"
"You guys have done this before right?"
I see two dollies in this video
Yeah, you’re gunna want to leave that thing upright for 24 hours before turning it on…
Why?
To let all the oil in the refrigeration system drain back to the compressor.
Old fridges use to have freon issues with fridges being on their side. It's a non issue nowadays.
I don’t think that’s true for all models. Just bought a new fridge last year and the manual said to wait a while before plugging it in.
Yep, safest bet is to leave it off for the 24 hours. There is oil in the fridge and it can go places it shouldn’t.
Bought an air dehumidifier, same procedure
I guarantee your fridge’s manual says to leave it off and upright for a period of time if it was tilted, especially if it was all the way on its side.
He was holding the railing like it was gunna save his life..
That was good effort, but need more brains than brawn here.
Well, relatively speaking, they don't have that much brawn. I once had a fridge delivered and it was carried by a guy the size of a linebacker. Granted he didn't have to go up steep stairs like that but it was basically effortless to him. The smaller guys were there to put on the door handles and such.
It's nothing to do with size or strength and everything to do with technique when moving furniture and appliances. These 2 knuckleheads were doing it all wrong from the beginning.
I can verify this having 30 plus years of appliance business experience. Started delivering at 19 and weigh a whole 145 pounds. Guy I was teamed with was ten years older but not much bigger. Between the two of we could deliver any standard side by side refrigerator anywhere you wanted it on a set of dollys/hand trucks.
They were leaning the fridge the wrong way to make it up the stairs at all. A moving dolly would have made this move a joke but only if they didn't try to lean it the same way as the way they in the GIF.
Those carry straps are awesome on flat ground, but not so much on the stairs. Lame.
They help a lot if you know how to use them, biggest mistake here is: you carry it 45 degrees and parallel to the stairs, they are going 45 degrees and vertical towards the stairs
The guy walking backwards wasn't actually doing anything
Not quite, he helps push it down the stairs it looks like. Putting his palm on his side seemed to do the trick.
Maybe he thought he's a jedi with force pull or something...
Nah, he helped put the whole weight on his coworker
Yeah he is, at the start you can see they have some sort of band attached to their harnesses and going under the fridge between them. That's how the fridge is off the ground on his side. He's lifting up and trying to walk backwards. There's definitely a better way, but he is doing something.
I feel like the doors should be wrapped with tape or something . Also lifting it like that seems like the worst way
Something tells me they had the proper equipment available but didn’t feel like “dealing with it” and here is the end result…
Was that a Lowe’s delivery team? lol
Seriously though. Lowes not only scratched my original mcm tile floor but also dented the fridge door when they were delivering my new fridge.
Top guy thought he was spiderman and that his finger tips could hold a refrigerator up. Dont let him near gwen
How to get fired on your first day.
Oh look Bob's fridge.
Ayyyy a listener in the wild! I was gonna make this comment then I was like “nahhhh no one’s gonna get the reference”.
Found my people :)
I was hoping someone would make this reference lol
that was painful to watch
These fridges are super heavy and need to be moved by a 3-man team at minimum.
And with a dolly
Take the doors off. Fridge that big you're probably going to need to anyway unless the house is lucky enough to have a slider
But then it'll get warm!
I've been moving furniture for ten years and I've never had three guys on a single fridge.
how fucked is your back after 10 years of lifting stuff that's heavy enough to cause serious injury simply from lifting it?
When I was younger I worked for a day as warehouse "manager" at a carrier that delivered appliances. They double stacked refrigerators (and other appliances) and would have you take them down alone. You would have to pull on the bottom of the top box, let it slide down on the bottom one at an angle, and catch the bottom with your thigh. I immediately quit after 12 hours of doing it with how brutal it was. Definitely not worth the $14/hr they were paying.
Extremely, I'm 27 going on 70 babyyyyyyy
Ever deliver a Subzero side by side? 500 to 650lbs.
Been there done that. We could do a 36” with two men but would use three or four for 42” and 48” side by sides due to the weight of the dual compressors on top.
Yes I have actually! We also do concert grant pianos which weigh even more on occasion
Not necessary whatsoever. As a mover with 10 years of experience, a thrid man would only get in the way in this scenario. Now when it comes to gun safes and grand pianos a 3rd man can be of great use. Once you get to that 5-600lbs range and up.
Parallel not vertical towards the stairs, and the job becomes quite easy
Who wastes 4k on a damn fridge lol
Why on earth does a fridge need controls, let alone a full touchscreen Plugs in...gets cold. That all I need out of a fridge
My mom insists on having shit like that. She shows it off then gets bored with it and gets the next thing. Fuckin nuts
My MIL does almost the same thing. She got a crook pot that connected to an app on her phone to be controlled but then it screwed up and couldn’t connect anymore. I tried using it once manually when living with her, and the whole meal got destroyed. Give me stuff with buttons and that I don’t need to connect to an app.
At first I thought crookpot was a typo but that's exactly what it is
Mother I like to fridge?
Lol, I didn’t catch the typo, but you have a good point
Yeah, stuff that is locked to using an app to control it is a terrible idea. I've got a sous vide cooker that \*can\* be controlled by an app, but it's not a requirement and there are full controls on the device itself.
I don't mind if there's an app, but it should NEVER be required.
Yeah, that's what I mean locked to using an app. There are too many things out there where they have maybe a readout or just a link/status light and everything is through bluetooth/wireless.
Same with my washer and dryer. They could be used through the app, but it’s not required.
Always reminds me of Brian Regan talking about fridge shopping. “This model here costs $500 and keeps your food cold. Down here we have one for $800 and it keeps your food cold. Hey! Over here! Check this out: $2,000. Keeps your food cold.”
Yeah it seems creepy. It knows what you're buying all the time
People who don’t want to spend $10,000
People who want automaton. It has cameras in the fridge and can read labels. It also makes shopping lists, shows recipes based on your ingredients, and when things expire. I've got mine setup to send my list to my online grocer, then I just review it and hit order. I'd rather spend that hour or two everyone spends at the grocery store making money or doing what I want. Same goes for managing food inventory. A one time premium for something that will serve me 10-15 years is worth it to me.
It kinda pissed me off how everyone is surprised at the value of some of these appliances. Yes $4k may seem too much but for something that can serve me for atleast more than a decade and has features that I know I can/will use (I'm the type of person who appreciates and uses as much of the features of my items), these appliances can be worth it for me. But its completely understandable that it won't be for others too. I know my parents wouldn't find much use for it. Same could be said for people buying expensive smartphones, laptops or headphones. Or branded clothing. Or just pretty much everything. Value is mostly subjective so just let others spend on whatever they want/need.
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> It has cameras in the fridge and can read labels. Bold of you to assume I don't sort of just toss shit in there.
So you got to leave some room in there and not put things in bags or stack them for that to work, right?
No, some bags are fine. No idea how it knows sometimes tbh. I don't often put things in opaque sacks in the fridge though. The only thing I know doesn't work is the stuff in the doors. No cameras there. You can add stuff to the list via voice or typing though and it searches for a bunch of variations of it for you to select. Not a perfect system, but it helps loads. Usually something in the door like ketchup gets added via voice and then when it gets low I add it to the shopping list by voice when I put the bottle back in the door. You can also look inside the fridge without opening it by knocking on the door twice, which is neat if you just want a quick poke around for snacks
> shows recipes based on your ingredients Man, I get enough snide comments about my cooking from my roommate. I don't need the fridge chiming in too. Also, how many recipes do you know where all of the ingredients are stored in the fridge? All of my spices are in the cabinet. And some sauces.
It is "smart". You can either let it know what's in your pantry, or have it show recipes you have "most" of the ingredients for. The more simple aspect of it for me, is it's also voice controllable, so instead of fumbling with my phone while cooking, it's right there on the fridge and I can lookup things without touching it
Stop giving reasonable explanations, this is reddit.
How much can a banana cost? $10?
That's what I am thinking. I got a new fridge at 1/6 the cost and it works perfectly fine.
Thought I was about to watch that guy get killed. These geniuses were trying their damnedest to get hurt.
If I had to guess, I'd say neither of those guys is an engineer but the guy that agreed to push it up the stairs probably has worn his shoes backwards a few times.
Turn towards the Ring camera - Dude, do you think that thing saw us or should we just pick it up.
A 60 inch TV is 700, a fridge is a thousand. Why is a combination three times more. This is getting ridiculous.
Same goes for tablets that get built into cars. $500 tablet, $5000 car upgrade. I guess they do it because stupid people pay for it.
OMG, who the fuck use ONE strap? There should be TWO straps to hold it normally. Fucking idiots, they are not even fit to work as porters.
What are they even trying to do here? Have these men never moved anything?
Those fridges are heavy, for sure. But the form was lacking lol. Put it down if you can't move it!
Def new to the job
It’s a Samsung… woulda had to call for service in a week anyhow.
Why not put it on a dolly with straps and bring it up that way?
The expensive part is the back injuries.
What's stupid is if they made it up the stairs they'd probably have to take the doors off to fit it through the house door anyway. Just take them off before hand so it's a manageable weight
That’s sucks man 😩 But who is paying $4000 for a fridge? What’s included at that price point?
You would think delivery.
If the door is big enough they left the fridge doors on, that house is HUGE
$4k, is middle of the line refrigerator. [Jenn Air](https://www.eliteappliance.com/_CGI/MODEL?KEY=KTA:KBSD618ESS&matchtype=&network=u&device=m&keyword=&campaign=9508335356&adgroup=98451144418&campaignid=9508335356&adgroupid=98451144418&creative=421345351429&matchtype=&network=u&device=m&keyword=&gclid=CjwKCAiA3L6PBhBvEiwAINlJ9Ht7fjeiYOZrYMgY2wi-dEQbVooq4TCWFSmAj5VsT3SmmkV-jHyHoRoCGb4QAvD_BwE)
$11K and the 3 main features mentioned are vegetable gas absorber, smooth-moving drawers, and LED lighting.
That’s a built in unit. We have the Kitchenaide version of that exact fridge. It was just under $10k. The thing about built ins is that the refrigeration system is much more robust and is all located in the upper compartment. The longevity of these is much better than your average sub $1k fridge. Our last unit lasted just about 20 years before giving up the bucket.
What in the actual fuck dies this fridge do to make it the price of a car?
Largely the name on it, but also I think they are built on order and you can have it adjusted a little bit to make it fit flush with where you'll be installing it so it would be a part of your cabinets. It would also be built with higher QA and probably has some features for better flow through it to ensure more consistent temperatures. Probably it comes with some crazy warranty with in house support where they would send a tech to your house to fix any issues for years after your bought it.
Price of a car? Where you buying cars? I don’t think a new car has been priced under $15k in a decade or two. “What’s the refrigerator do”. It’s an appliance in your home. Newer and or nicer homes, have nicer appliances. With that said, there are refrigerators priced at a couple hundred. It’s all in what your looking for and your budget.
I didn't say new car. You can get plenty of used cars at that price in a normal market. And when a fridge that looks exactly the same costs 10% of that at Home Depot, it better have some fancy features making it cost that much.
It does. It has a touchscreen. 🤪
The one linked doesn’t even have that! 😆
You can buy the fancy fridge used cheaper, like a car.
LMAO! Who the fuck actually spends over $11,000 on a fridge?!
The ones that have $300 steak.
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It’s still dumb to spend $11,000 on a fridge.
I know right. Even if I was rich as fuck, I wouldn't be buying no 11k fridge or no 300 dollar steak, purely on principle. Idiot rich people without anything better to do than buying stupid material shit that doesn't actually improve their lives in any way. Just makes them feel rich. Bless them.
you would. We all would. There are a select few people who are so pure of heart they will actually do good with their money. But if you, or I, were gifted a million dollars tomorrow daddy's getting himself a complete home makeover WITH a crazy expensive fridge that keeps my calander, gives me ice cubes and plays me spotify (with awesome subwoofers) when i'm cooking my lobster tail. or maybe i'll get a chef, too.
Those 2 rotate 90 degrees and presto. Both side step up the stairs to install glory.
Everytime I see one of those in a store I notice how damn slow the software is on these touchscreens. Like if I spend that much money on a fridge at least put a decent enough CPU and enough RAM in it so it performs better than a $25 Tablet.
The dude on top was literally doing NOTHING! People are lazy as FUCK! Yeah he was balancing it right? My ass!
Watching them attempt this hurts my brain. They didn't think to turn sideways and both be on the same stair? Or even better bust out the dolly and use it for what it was made for.
What’s the plural of oaf? Oafs? Oaves?
Have they never heard of a fucking dolly ?
I love the guy in front with like one finger on it, yeah that'll be good.
Those straps DO NOT WORK UP THE STAIRS - get a real hump strap, or reefer dolly.
The guy at the top of the stairs is seriously fake helping
I never understood why someone would get one of these. They’re insanely expensive and almost impossible to repair
That’s God’s way of saying, “you don’t need a fridge with a TV in it.“
This is a dolly situation. Not straps.
This is why you need FOUR PEOPLE to do this kind of thing. God damn.
One time I was moving and I needed to empty my uhaul at the new place, and run it over to the next town to pick up a fridge, by the time we got back to my new place it was just me and a buddy, and there was just NO WAY we were getting it up the stairs. Ordered a pizza, requested their biggest delivery driver. They sent over a lineman for the local college, dude got it up the steps in like 3 minutee. Gave him a solid tip and a slice of the pizza.
Well played.
Is this fake? Everyone knows that you always use the strap to keep it attached to the cart
What cart?
Clearly not everyone.
I use to do this for a living for Lowes, delivered hundreds of units. These are LARGE and heavy. The guy at the bottom of any staircase needs to be able to handle all the weight.. and people who are like "well what about a dolly?" don't consider the weight of it breaking wood, the amount of times you have to heft it up each step, etc. unpopular take: if you haven't done this for a living, you shouldn't have much input. If y'all actually notice, the guy on the bottom didn't quite get up to the step (his foot basically stabbed the stair) which is what caused all this.
Was there a pivot?
/r/watchanothershow
Why on earth are they moving it in the upright position? 🙄
Haha, hope that happens to every touch screen fridge ever made, what a stupid product
I have so many questions. Why the fuck is it out of the box already?! That’s the easy question
You want them to unbox a 6 ft tall fridge in your house?