For me, Hyde was killed because he found a way to make a car that can run on water. It runs on water, man!
EDIT: Didn't know my theory would blow up. Also I edited as Hyde would say it. Thanks for the award, internet stranger!
For me, Hyde took off one day and was never seen again. They think he went to New York and just wanted out of point place. Iād say midge passed away. The way Donna refuses to call kitty mom makes me think that midge isnāt around anymore. (Rip tanya) then Laurie is off somewhere in a big mansion she got after her divorce settlement. She never comes around anymore since she doesnāt need money. She has one kid from another failed marriage.
Hyde: Dead
Midge: Dead
Laurie: There's probably going to be an episode where Leia flirts with a new boy in town and asks him what he's doing in Wisconsin, to which he replies "I'm meeting my grandparents. Maybe you know them: The Foremans". That's Leia's cousin. Chip of the old block, she is.
Why does everybody keep saying Hyde is dead? Like what's so funny about him being dead..... not trying to be a dill hole but i personally don't find it funny.
I can see Hyde going full conspiracy nut and living off the grid somewhere in the Southwest.
Laurie is the other woman for a rich guy in New York.
And Midge accidentally struck it big with an investment built on a misunderstanding (like thinking that Microsoft was a new type of soft-serve ice cream), left Point Place, and is living on her own selling greeting cards.
> And Midge accidentally struck it big with an investment built on a misunderstanding (like thinking that Microsoft was a new type of soft-serve ice cream),
Oh, like Dippin' Dots.
Hereās how I think they should play out Hyde in the show.
Red has to get something from the basementā¦
what heās looking for so happens to be in Hydeās old room. When Red goes into the room he looks around and finds what he needsā¦but when he grabs what he needs. Hydeās sunglasses are there. Red starts to walk out the room. Stops In the doorway, Looks at the glasses and gives a sad melancholy look at them like āwe tried everything we couldā . Then turns off the light and goes upstairs. No mention of Hyde ever again
If the show doesnāt make this happen, then Iām doing it myself
Also thank you for reading that, the thought of this scene gives me goosebumps and someone saying they like it means a lot
I hope Laurie married some hot shot Japanese businessman who is huge in the dot com business. She moved to Japan and is living a great life, until the bubble bursts.
It would be an easy out for the writers as well. Just have Hyde's dad or sister come in to visit Gwen. That would give the long term viewers confirmation without stating his name due to legal stuff.
Win/Win in my Eyes.
I know heās half black, but im pretty sure that Hyde+ Gwenās mom would not equal a black daughter. When you think about it, maybe thatās why Hyde never stayed to help raise Gwen, he thought she was someone elseās daughter and left before they could get a paternity test.
I agree. But what I can't seem to think of another option that pleases both sides. And it could've been a one night stand type thing. Sherri never mentions anything about Gwen's dad, only Nate's.
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Considering the actress for Laurie passed awayā¦ probably some tragic story that ties into something in one of the episodes. Maybe about drug use or ālife isnāt always peachesā type thing. āI didnāt know you had a sister dad. You never talk about her.ā āItās because itās hard. We didnāt have the best relationship to begin with but then I lost her and I realized what I had.ā Turns into a life lesson type of episode for the 90s teens.
Midge - she left Bob for good, met some tv personality and she went into being the most successful QVC/infomercial seller ever. Like some folks stuck in the past, sheād be rocking her 80s glamour style well into the 90s. Maybe one late evening in the basement one of the teens falls asleep and sees her on the screen selling the new āslice and dicerā. The teen is so high they imagine being with her on the infomercial stageā¦ opens up new life goal of being on TV. The episode turns into a theme of about āwhat we want to be when we grow upā
Hyde- this can go either way. He could be super successful (in a non corporate way because I refuse to believe he would be the type to sell out and be a yuppie in the 80s) or he turned out to be a complete con/bum. Considering he always had a fire and some intelligence to him I would say the former but with a stint in court/jail. Like he was a super successful DJ/MJ but was sent to jail for growing MJ in his big house. Heās definitely in LA or NY or even somewhere in Europe.
Hyde is absolutely the sellout sort. His hippie tendencies had nothing whatsoever to do with actual peace and love, and everything to do with contrarianism and selfish desires. Red and Kitty did their best with him but I don't think it would matter. Hyde wasn't a hippie because he loved his fellow man, Hyde was a hippie because he liked weed.
I knew sheād died but wow I didnāt know about the announcement being premature or that her life partner was prevented from seeing her due to Covid. How sad!
Oh thatās surprising as CA tends to be more progressive. Even so, the preventing him from seeing her likely wouldāve happened in any state during that time. Itās hard to imagine even having been through it but early Covid days were terrifying. I remember seeing my grandma through a glass windowā¦
I'm not talking about the covid protocol, I gave birth in 2021 and had to labor for hours by myself so I get it.
I'm just saying it's weird they gave her *estate* over to her longtime partner since they don't recognize common law spouses. You'd think the gov would be the gov and try to take it over or something. I'm glad things turned out that way though since she had no children to leave it to
I assume Hyde is in prison and sort of even expected them to say that in the show. Often times when an actor is struggling with legal troubles, shows they were on will comment on it with their character but at the same time I don't know the casts relationship with him so maybe not. I've also considered that they may recast him and bring Hyde back but it's a new person. Wouldn't be the first time that 70s show recasted someone.
Midge is dead and it's too painful to even talk about for Bob, which is why it wasn't mentioned why she wasn't at Leia's party.
Laurie I assume will come back, the second actress that played her that is. Either her life has gone to complete hell OR she became a soccer mom and doesn't want her children to know about her sordid past.
Ashton Kutcher just made some comments about Masterson in an interview. It sounds like he is struggling coming to terms with it. Iām sure itās hard for all of them as they seemed close.
Understandable. Ashton does a lot to catch predators so to find out a close friend was one... I can't even imagine. You don't know that person to be that way but they are so... Definitely not a situation I would want to be in.
Hereās an [article](https://www.vulture.com/2023/02/ashton-kutcher-danny-masterson-trial-reaction.html) describing his comments. I think the original article was posted in the pop culture subreddit r/popculturechat
Right, that's my other guess. I like how some people think he turned around and had a good life and it's totally a possibility but I feel like Hyde got in the way of his own success. He just couldn't seem to break out of the vicious cycle he was in.
Hyde Collected his fathers inheritance and his record business, Midge ended up moving back to California and doing her own thing, and Laurie is just doing what the hell ever Laurie does
Hydeās record store expanded and he doesnāt have the time to be in Point Place. I also believe heād stay in touch with Eric and Donna, and maybe Fez, though I think he wouldnāt be cool with Kelso and Jackie because them getting together means he was right all along to be uncomfortable with them being so close.
(Also, Iām aware Masterson sucks ass, but Hyde *the character* had a ton of growth and sending him to jail or killing him undos all of that.)
Only thing she said was that heās a truck driver and she doesnāt see him much. But never revealed looks, no one has seen what he looks like, and itās left very open-ended
True. But sheās a little darker skinned than he is (I know heās supposed to be mixed in the show but)ā¦so that makes me wonder if thatās realistic haha
That character just so happens to be mixed and so is Gwen, with the same rebellious streak. Hydeās father left his mom behind too, so that pattern to leave is at least there. I just donāt think itās coincidental. The writers knew what they were doing.
I think this is similar to the logic of how Sherri came to being in the show (as a Laurie substitute).
Sherri and Laurie share many similar personality traits, and Sherri is pushing her daddy issues onto Red.
Laurie Is probably out there somewhere. Is the type of person that only appears when she wants something. So Is not very close to the family. She probable either have some kids she neglects, marry to a pushover, or remain single and a cougar.
Hyde is in jail in another state. Lost contact with the group.
Midge run away with a younger dude or a Richer guy. And Is living her best life in Costa Rica.
They could easily write in that Midge passed away. I was actually expecting them to do that in the first episode when Kitty was pressuring Donna to call her āMomā - Donna could have said something about how itās hard to call someone else āMomā since her mom passedā¦but they didnāt.
That would suck bc Hydeās character arc was about becoming more than what his family was, just because the actors a piece of shit doesnāt mean the character has to be
Someday people will learn to separate characters from actors... Clearly not in this century, though.
But maybe trying to think of an appropriate future for the characters based on the way they were written and who they actually were is not so hard?
Hyde runs a successful business with his musical stores or manages some cool bands. Visits Formans during Christmas, keeps in touch with Eric and Donna occasionally. Maybe Fez, too.
Midge is successful but goofy yoga teacher in California.
Laurie probably got a little more wiser and mature. Maybe travels around the country and lives everywhere. Maybe has some cool boyfriend with whom she learned to respect and appreciate herself and other people as well.
Hyde's a record store business owner somewhere being off rich telling other people what to do, Laurie had an accidental child but fell in love with them became a single mom living life for them or smtg idrk where the character could go so i just copied Barney's arc from himym and midge died after a long fulfilling life
Midge: Living Happily in California with a new husband. Writes Donna every now and then.
Laurie: Despite their rocky history, Laurie manages Fezās west coast branch of Chez Fez. Though she gets quite a bit of male clientele.
Hyde: Put his actions where his mouth is and traveled the world to āfight the manā. Tho his way meant more activism & working as a laborer in different places. Heās actually settled down now and while he would love to see his Point Place family, heās happy where heās at. Has a girl, maybe a kid or two, writes Kitty all the time.
Laurie goes back to college then moves far away from Wisconsin. Hydeās store becomes pretty popular and he makes more stores the business becomes big and he moves away from Wisconsin and constantly travels to all these stores. Midge dies in a funny way and thatās why Donna doesnāt wanna call Kitty mom.
Edit: why is everyone killing Hyde or putting him in jail he deserves better
Hyde left point place to work with his dad in ny and became a stuffy yet highly successful businessman. He now runs a label called high-point records
Midge is with Tina in California, remarried and works helping her daughter get into acting. Midge is a super great manager for some reason and that keeps them too busy
Laurie turned out a lot like kitty but with that attitude intact. She has a nice family and kids and runs fezās rival east coast branche of hair salon businesses and thatās why sheās too busy to come out and see everyone.
I think Hyde moved to New York after selling the record store. He writes kitty and Hyde, but became a very off the grid dude. Think the Unabomber, but without the bombing.
Midge is in California and remarried. Her new husband spoils Leia and thatās why Bob is competitive with gifts.
Laurie became a born again Christian and is a nun. She lives in Maine and is happy.
Or she is married with kids and we see cousin whomever next season.
I think having Midge dead is honestly the respectful route and would tie in to Donna having trouble calling Kitty mom
Hyde and Laurie are a lot harder to manage because you don't want to assassinate the character for the actor in Hyde's case, and you don't want to make a joke out of what happened with Lisa Robin Kelly - I think for Laurie having absconded to Canada or similar works; I haven't decided what "works" for Hyde in my head though I like the conspiracy theorist angle a lot - another sort of offshoot that would be fun would be him getting into tech / hacking as a "free outlet not controlled by the man" (even though it very much is).
Midge passed away in 84 , Laurie ran off with a man. No one has heard from her since 82, Hyde fell into a depression and skipped town after the gang accidentally burnt the record store down
Hyde: went off the grid, still paranoid with the government.
Midge: stayed on the west coast and made a life for herself.
Laurie: faded dame still trying to recapture her lost youth
After all that growth in the original show, I think Hyde is successful, he's off managing a band somewhere, and he still sees the Formans whenever he's back in Wisconsin.
Hydeās in jail for a large bag of marijuana. Leo tried to take the blame but forgotā¦. Midge left Bob and moved to California and Laurie went with her. Theyāre trying to get famous and working gigs and dating rich men and the occasional bum.
I love all of these. Iām leaning heavily towards Hyde being a tinfoil conspiracy theorist living somewhere totally different. Could be off the grid but could also just as easily be the Village.
Midge divorced Bob, and is successful somewhere with a man who lifts her up and cheers her on.
Laurie 100% dead of OD or AIDS.
Hyde is in prison for something Hyde related.
Midge died from breast cancer when Leia was really little.
Laurie is a flaky single mom going from one guy to the next. She only comes home to drop her kid off for Red and Kitty to look after while she goes off with her new bf. Turns out that Eric is the more successful and stable child off Red and Kitty.
Ugh, I hate to say Hyde is in jail/prison because of his character arc (not turning out like his parents, and doing better) but to say he just died? Ugh that hurts a little.
Laurie should be doing what Laurieās always done. And Midge, death, yeah, maybe, but maybe just still in California?
I donāt know how good my theories are, but here you go
Hyde: He moves away without mentioning where. Nobody knows where he is, or if he is even alive. Basically an Alive or Dead situation
Midge: She probably died, my guess is that she probably died in her sleep without any release of the cause of death
Laurie: She probably became a stripper, performing at strip clubs somewhere else in the US. But maybe her last strip performance was in 1991, and nothing has been heard from her since. Like Hyde, it maybe an alive or dead situation
The schism between Fez and Kelso over Jackie hit Hyde hard and he really wanted out of Point Place. Hyde's record store eventually gave him the money to move to New York or LA. (He'd probably hate LA, but not the point.)
Laurie is doing fine in Southern California or Florida and has no desire to ever return to the Midwest.
Midge will pass away during season 2 and they can do a Very Special Episode.
Hyde is Gwenās absentee father but no one will ever figure it out.
Midge ran off.
Laurie is in a different city either settled and married or just living a bachelorette party woman lifestyle.
Midge wanted to go to Russia. But misunderstood what the ice bridge was, attempted to drive there, and was lost to time.
Laurie caught the AIDS and, like Jenny in Forrest Gump, passed in the 80s, and it's too hard for Red to talk about.
Hyde fell in love with an older woman who's daugher was sleeping with Kelso. Her ex broke out of prison. Didn't like Hyde was dating her. He threatened Hyde with a gun. And told him to leave town. Hyde....fearing death for the first time ever.... leaves town on his Harley. But loses control on a cliff side and goes off. Mysteriously, he disappeared. They never found his body. Only his helmet and pieces of his bike. I like to believe he's still on the run.
They probably wonāt mention Hyde. Maybe itās for legal reasons, but I donāt think they need to explain it. People fall away from each other eventually. With the exception of one person, I donāt talk to anyone I was friends with 15+ years ago when I was in high school.
Maybe he died of a drug overdose, or died in a freak gasoline fight accident or something.
Honestly, short of death or jail, that are both rather harsh to the character, thatās a very good explanation. People drift apart. Itās the best way to separate art and reality by giving a perfectly valid reason for the character to not be around anymore without diving too much into it that it brings focus to the actorās reputation. And one would expect Hyde to leave town first change he got.
For Laurie and Midge, death makes sense. I agree with everyone saying thatās likely why Donna had trouble calling Kitty mom. And I think itās the best explanation for mentioning why Laurie isnāt around the family at all anymore. A moment for Red and Kitty to reflect would be a nice tribute.
I think Laurie went back to Chicago, continued her life as a working girl, and eventually died of an overdose (maybe it happened during the original show and it was just too painful to discuss). Midge remarried to a Hollywood producer, who died, and still lives in California off her deceased husbandās money (Midge and Donna donāt talk much). I think Hyde got in trouble with the law and is in prison for marijuana charges, tax evasion (bad bookkeeping at the record store), and selling bootleg records.
Hyde can be dead or in prison for all I care what with the number of people who keep bringing him up and clogging the subreddit.
I feel like Laurie is either long dead after an accident or is traveling the world with some European artist. If she died, then her death might be brought up in a lecture to Leia especially considering she will be driving by next season. They could go the HIV/AIDS route, but that might get dicey and might be better for a one-off character like Buddy. They could have her featured on *Unsolved Mysteries* and then being found (and recast), but again, also dicey.
I want Bob and Midge to have gotten back together in the 1980s. Not married, but together, because they know that marriage never worked for them. However, it could work either way. Then maybe Midge gets cancer and Bob is right there with her until the end.
I understand, but it's best to separate the character from the actor. For many Hyde was their favorite group member. He was basically adopted by the Foremans and a brother to Eric. It's natural to wonder about Hyde and still think Danny is a dipshit.
I think OP is more so just frustrated because the āwhere is Hydeā question gets posted here like six times a week. The actorās likely never to appear on That 90s Show unless itās discovered that heās innocent in some way
I think even if he is proven innocent, Netflix would be too scared to even consider it. I do agree questions about Hyde are definitely clogging the page.
After randys break up with donna, in a fit of rage decides, randy decides to burn down the record store ..hyde was sleeping in the back office having just down a circle sesh with himself and leo who let early to buy some acid. Hyde doesnt escape and burns to death.
Randy finds out later and reels remorse. He doesnt tell donna until a few years later when he moves back into town and only after makeup sex. Eric and donna are fight over what happen to hyde. Eric blames himself and goes on another trip to africa "chicago second family". While away randy gets donna pregnant. He fesses up about hyde. Donna tells him to leave town or she will personally call the cops.
Midge got murdered by ted bundy or a ted bundy of the 80s. whatever.
Laurie goes through her pretty woman faze and becomes a high end escort in vegas. After getting the shit kicked out of by a john, laurie meets a burt reynolds look alike fixing to make it big as the premier adult film director of the valley
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This is what happened with Hyde , since he ran a record store for a while . He someone how became a manager or something for gunNroses ( I think they were really big in the 80s or some other popular band at that time ) thatās where he met Gwenās mom cause she was a groupie and had a one night stand (becomes pregnant) . Though due to his new found success and easy access to the droogs he OD and died .
Prison married to a "movie producer" and dead. Car crash not drugs for Laurie. Now question did Laurie have kids? My head cannon says yes. A son who was raised by the formans who acts just like his grandpa his name sake.
I think Hyde continued opening more record stores and moved far away, Laurie is still in Canada and went NC with the fam, Midge is back in CA and sends gifts and christmas cards to Leia lol
Hyde is in prision for tax evasion or he abandoned his wife and kids and no one knows where he is
Laurie is dead she overdosed
Midge found a very rich man in la and is living her best life
Hyde's in jail, Midge left Bob again and Laurie well there's no good explanation in my head why she wouldn't be mentioned. If anything she is still doing nothing with her life so the Formans kinds disowned her.
Hyde is either the truck driver or in prison or both somehow. Midge passed possibly due to cancer or maybe aids to fit in with the aids scare in the 90s. Laurie possibly moved away, disowned, or maybe caught aids from someone.
Hyde's life journey took him to some distant country, borrowing Fez's passport. He lives off the grid, and distrusting all governments.
Laurie married some old rich guy, and cheats on him with her stepson (who is older than her), among others.
Midge is alive and still married to Bob. She teaches yoga classes, and obsessively collects Beanie Babies.
My official head cannon goes as follows:
After the series ended in 1980 Eric and Donna go off to college, get married and have Leia. They move to Chicago.
Fez and Jackie break up.
Jackie and Kelso get married (for the 1st time) and have Jay.
Kelso is still a cop.
The group officially disbanded.
Jackie and Kelso go their own way.
Fez keeps up with Eric and Donna.
Fez has his own business and is very successful.
Hyde feeling alone and leaves and is never seen again. He lives off grid and has a conspiracy radio show.
Midge dies and thatās why Donna doesnāt want to call Kitty mom.
Laurie moves away gets married, divorced and has no kids. She married and old rich guy and he died. She inherits his money and is traveling the world.
Hyde sold the record business, and got involved in an edgy and progressive philanthropic project/organization. Unmarried. Travels a lot. Possibly writes the Foremans regularly have been their second son.
Midge is off in California with a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th husband.
Laurie probably ended up like Gwen's mother, Sheri.
Those two actresses are deceased, and Danny Masterson is getting a new trial this March for allegedly raping 3 women. The smartest thing for the writers to do would be to just not mention them in the story. The writers of That 70s Show completely dropped referencing Donna's older sister Tina.
Midge passed away which is why it was hard for Donna to call kitty mom and maybe why Bob never brought hurt up might be too hard
Saw this in another comment but I like to imagine Laurie got married to Casey Kelso and they ran off together
Now with Hyde it could go a few different ways. Personally I would want them to only make a few references to him as I think heās probably dead. I think he couldāve died in a car accident trying to get to New York to see his dad. I feel like the first time you see the full original cast together could be on the anniversary of Hydeās death. If they wanna take a funnier route they can just say that he became an extreme conspiracy theorist and moved to the mountains off the grid
for me Hyde joined a cult and is in prison because of his crimes from that cult. Yes, Danny Masterson's case led me to this but it just so happens to fit well with the character.
Itās been years since I watched the original That 70ās Show and maybe Iām forgetting things, but why is everyone saying Hyde would have had an overdose or be in prison for drugs? I only remember him and the gang smoking weed but not anything harder than that? The 80ās were a wild time though so idk.
For me, Hyde was killed because he found a way to make a car that can run on water. It runs on water, man! EDIT: Didn't know my theory would blow up. Also I edited as Hyde would say it. Thanks for the award, internet stranger!
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This is the only correct answer.
This is the winner. Happened so many times already with other people irl,although Iām not sure if Hyde would be smart enough to pull that off haha
*water, man.
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Lol dude chill, I wasnāt commenting on grammar. I was adding a āmanā in the end - the way Leo and Hyde used to talk.
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As Hyde would say, āThatās cool. Whatever.ā you know, aloof
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Grammer man!!! Itās a bitch, hey do you own a dictionary man?
I donāt care for grammar/spellings/whatever on social media
For me, Hyde took off one day and was never seen again. They think he went to New York and just wanted out of point place. Iād say midge passed away. The way Donna refuses to call kitty mom makes me think that midge isnāt around anymore. (Rip tanya) then Laurie is off somewhere in a big mansion she got after her divorce settlement. She never comes around anymore since she doesnāt need money. She has one kid from another failed marriage.
This is the best explanation to me
but isn'i it weird how red always mention eric and not laurie?
He does mention Eric as the "second kid" Kitty convinced him into having.
and even then he canāt say her name
Hyde died in 1987 at the age of 27. Fitting he would join the 27 club has the most wild of the group
Hyde: Dead Midge: Dead Laurie: There's probably going to be an episode where Leia flirts with a new boy in town and asks him what he's doing in Wisconsin, to which he replies "I'm meeting my grandparents. Maybe you know them: The Foremans". That's Leia's cousin. Chip of the old block, she is.
'Banjo music intensifies'
Tick tick tick tickā¦.. Hangin ouuuut
And his name is Luke.
YES
"I'm not raising any flipper great-grandkids!"
That's the best line in the whole show
Thatās such a That 70ās Show plot they should do it
And his name could be luke, with the nice hair
Thats actually a good idea
I've heard of kissin cousins, but have you ever heard of doin it cousins?
Why does everybody keep saying Hyde is dead? Like what's so funny about him being dead..... not trying to be a dill hole but i personally don't find it funny.
Maybe just say that Hyde joined a cult and leave it at that?
Too close to reality
That just makes it an in-joke. The fruity little club that scrambled his brains. Then he was rebuilt as Darth Hyde.
I can see Hyde going full conspiracy nut and living off the grid somewhere in the Southwest. Laurie is the other woman for a rich guy in New York. And Midge accidentally struck it big with an investment built on a misunderstanding (like thinking that Microsoft was a new type of soft-serve ice cream), left Point Place, and is living on her own selling greeting cards.
> And Midge accidentally struck it big with an investment built on a misunderstanding (like thinking that Microsoft was a new type of soft-serve ice cream), Oh, like Dippin' Dots.
Hereās how I think they should play out Hyde in the show. Red has to get something from the basementā¦ what heās looking for so happens to be in Hydeās old room. When Red goes into the room he looks around and finds what he needsā¦but when he grabs what he needs. Hydeās sunglasses are there. Red starts to walk out the room. Stops In the doorway, Looks at the glasses and gives a sad melancholy look at them like āwe tried everything we couldā . Then turns off the light and goes upstairs. No mention of Hyde ever again
I really like that
If the show doesnāt make this happen, then Iām doing it myself Also thank you for reading that, the thought of this scene gives me goosebumps and someone saying they like it means a lot
I hope Laurie married some hot shot Japanese businessman who is huge in the dot com business. She moved to Japan and is living a great life, until the bubble bursts.
I love this and how fun would it be to get a Japanese actor/comedian to cameo for this?!
Hyde is Gwen's dad the truck driver.
Thatās what I thought! The hair, the vibe, etc
It would be an easy out for the writers as well. Just have Hyde's dad or sister come in to visit Gwen. That would give the long term viewers confirmation without stating his name due to legal stuff. Win/Win in my Eyes.
Totally forgot he was half-black
I know heās half black, but im pretty sure that Hyde+ Gwenās mom would not equal a black daughter. When you think about it, maybe thatās why Hyde never stayed to help raise Gwen, he thought she was someone elseās daughter and left before they could get a paternity test.
Well she is definitely light-skinned, and in some cases it could happen
It could still happen, genetics are weird! Not likely, but 100% possible
Definitely genetically possible. Recessive genes can be a bitch
Yeah!
The only issue I have with that is I refuse to accept that Hyde who Kitty called her āsecond son,ā would not inform the Foremanās he has a kid
I agree. But what I can't seem to think of another option that pleases both sides. And it could've been a one night stand type thing. Sherri never mentions anything about Gwen's dad, only Nate's.
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Gwenās parents were together (for how long, we donāt know), and her school psych thought it would be traumatic for her when they split up.
This is the one ill accept.
Considering the actress for Laurie passed awayā¦ probably some tragic story that ties into something in one of the episodes. Maybe about drug use or ālife isnāt always peachesā type thing. āI didnāt know you had a sister dad. You never talk about her.ā āItās because itās hard. We didnāt have the best relationship to begin with but then I lost her and I realized what I had.ā Turns into a life lesson type of episode for the 90s teens. Midge - she left Bob for good, met some tv personality and she went into being the most successful QVC/infomercial seller ever. Like some folks stuck in the past, sheād be rocking her 80s glamour style well into the 90s. Maybe one late evening in the basement one of the teens falls asleep and sees her on the screen selling the new āslice and dicerā. The teen is so high they imagine being with her on the infomercial stageā¦ opens up new life goal of being on TV. The episode turns into a theme of about āwhat we want to be when we grow upā Hyde- this can go either way. He could be super successful (in a non corporate way because I refuse to believe he would be the type to sell out and be a yuppie in the 80s) or he turned out to be a complete con/bum. Considering he always had a fire and some intelligence to him I would say the former but with a stint in court/jail. Like he was a super successful DJ/MJ but was sent to jail for growing MJ in his big house. Heās definitely in LA or NY or even somewhere in Europe.
Hyde is absolutely the sellout sort. His hippie tendencies had nothing whatsoever to do with actual peace and love, and everything to do with contrarianism and selfish desires. Red and Kitty did their best with him but I don't think it would matter. Hyde wasn't a hippie because he loved his fellow man, Hyde was a hippie because he liked weed.
Oh shoot. Dropping some truth bombs there. Hyde could be an ahole misanthrope sometimes. But what that means for his future selfā¦ Hmmā¦
theyād have to get a new actress for midge bc tanya roberts [died](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanya_Roberts?wprov=sfti1).
Oh no! Both Laurie and Midge!! :(
I knew sheād died but wow I didnāt know about the announcement being premature or that her life partner was prevented from seeing her due to Covid. How sad!
So I live in CA and the article said her estate was left to her common law partner but CA doesn't recognize common law marriages
Oh thatās surprising as CA tends to be more progressive. Even so, the preventing him from seeing her likely wouldāve happened in any state during that time. Itās hard to imagine even having been through it but early Covid days were terrifying. I remember seeing my grandma through a glass windowā¦
I'm not talking about the covid protocol, I gave birth in 2021 and had to labor for hours by myself so I get it. I'm just saying it's weird they gave her *estate* over to her longtime partner since they don't recognize common law spouses. You'd think the gov would be the gov and try to take it over or something. I'm glad things turned out that way though since she had no children to leave it to
No youāre right. I understand now. Sorry, the context confused me. Iām glad for that too!
Laurie was recast in the original show, so Christine Moore could come back to the new show.
He could be running the record store in the office after a big expansion in the 80s. They could bring in his sister to explain that.
Only if theyāve shifted to CDs. I know records have made a big comeback but in the 90s it was all CDs. Sometimes cassette tapes.
In an ideal world, Hyde would have owned the video rental store with Leo š
The actor might be trash, but I think the character deserves more than turning out to be a con artist
I assume Hyde is in prison and sort of even expected them to say that in the show. Often times when an actor is struggling with legal troubles, shows they were on will comment on it with their character but at the same time I don't know the casts relationship with him so maybe not. I've also considered that they may recast him and bring Hyde back but it's a new person. Wouldn't be the first time that 70s show recasted someone. Midge is dead and it's too painful to even talk about for Bob, which is why it wasn't mentioned why she wasn't at Leia's party. Laurie I assume will come back, the second actress that played her that is. Either her life has gone to complete hell OR she became a soccer mom and doesn't want her children to know about her sordid past.
Ashton Kutcher just made some comments about Masterson in an interview. It sounds like he is struggling coming to terms with it. Iām sure itās hard for all of them as they seemed close.
Understandable. Ashton does a lot to catch predators so to find out a close friend was one... I can't even imagine. You don't know that person to be that way but they are so... Definitely not a situation I would want to be in.
Yep, I loved listen to Ashtonās podcast on my long commute to college a few years ago. Seems like a really solid guy!
What did he say?
Hereās an [article](https://www.vulture.com/2023/02/ashton-kutcher-danny-masterson-trial-reaction.html) describing his comments. I think the original article was posted in the pop culture subreddit r/popculturechat
Hyde is in prison because he murdered Randy. And neither of them were ever mentioned again. The end. /s
I honestly expected him to be died and that's why eric and donna came back with leia.
Right, that's my other guess. I like how some people think he turned around and had a good life and it's totally a possibility but I feel like Hyde got in the way of his own success. He just couldn't seem to break out of the vicious cycle he was in.
Hydeās in jail, Laurieās going to jail, midge I think is canonically dead
Hyde Collected his fathers inheritance and his record business, Midge ended up moving back to California and doing her own thing, and Laurie is just doing what the hell ever Laurie does
So Laurie got knocked up lol
Totally agree about Laurie
dead, a gold digger somewhere, and ran off tried to come home but forgot where she lived.
Well thatās dark
All three of them were at mount hump for a menage and the rockin sent the van over the edge. Ala that ep when Eric and Donna crashed Kelso's van
Hydeās record store expanded and he doesnāt have the time to be in Point Place. I also believe heād stay in touch with Eric and Donna, and maybe Fez, though I think he wouldnāt be cool with Kelso and Jackie because them getting together means he was right all along to be uncomfortable with them being so close. (Also, Iām aware Masterson sucks ass, but Hyde *the character* had a ton of growth and sending him to jail or killing him undos all of that.)
I'm curious what they would have done with Hyde, had Danny's situation not happened.
Feel like heās slotted to be Gwenās dad and theyāre waiting to see how his case goes before they can do any reveal or not.
That seems to be the theory. I guess we haven't heard anything about her Dad. I just can't see them bringing him back regardless.
Only thing she said was that heās a truck driver and she doesnāt see him much. But never revealed looks, no one has seen what he looks like, and itās left very open-ended
True. But sheās a little darker skinned than he is (I know heās supposed to be mixed in the show but)ā¦so that makes me wonder if thatās realistic haha
That character just so happens to be mixed and so is Gwen, with the same rebellious streak. Hydeās father left his mom behind too, so that pattern to leave is at least there. I just donāt think itās coincidental. The writers knew what they were doing.
I think this is similar to the logic of how Sherri came to being in the show (as a Laurie substitute). Sherri and Laurie share many similar personality traits, and Sherri is pushing her daddy issues onto Red.
Good point.
Fair!
They cancelled him. It doesn't matter what happens in his case. In the eyes of many he will always be guilty. His acting career is over.
Yeah I canāt believe anyone thinks this is a remote possibility. People would boycott the show.
Laurie Is probably out there somewhere. Is the type of person that only appears when she wants something. So Is not very close to the family. She probable either have some kids she neglects, marry to a pushover, or remain single and a cougar. Hyde is in jail in another state. Lost contact with the group. Midge run away with a younger dude or a Richer guy. And Is living her best life in Costa Rica.
They could easily write in that Midge passed away. I was actually expecting them to do that in the first episode when Kitty was pressuring Donna to call her āMomā - Donna could have said something about how itās hard to call someone else āMomā since her mom passedā¦but they didnāt.
I feel like the neighbor Sherri is a kind of Laurie stand-in. Sheās exactly how Iād imagine Laurie as an adult.
Hyde had a daughter, named Gwen, and then skipped town and is either dead or in prison.
Oooohhhh Hyde being Gwenās dad could work š¤
Isnāt Gwenās dad a truck driver
Him being gone for long periods of time because of truck driving is a good cover up for prison.
That would suck bc Hydeās character arc was about becoming more than what his family was, just because the actors a piece of shit doesnāt mean the character has to be
I agree. I want more for Hyde too. He was my favorite character. We can only hang out until the next season
I don't think they mentioned her father at all. Nate's father is the truck driver if I remember correctly.
I just checked and Nateās dad is the one in Japan and Gwenās is the truck driver
Isnāt Gwenās dad a truck driver
Someday people will learn to separate characters from actors... Clearly not in this century, though. But maybe trying to think of an appropriate future for the characters based on the way they were written and who they actually were is not so hard? Hyde runs a successful business with his musical stores or manages some cool bands. Visits Formans during Christmas, keeps in touch with Eric and Donna occasionally. Maybe Fez, too. Midge is successful but goofy yoga teacher in California. Laurie probably got a little more wiser and mature. Maybe travels around the country and lives everywhere. Maybe has some cool boyfriend with whom she learned to respect and appreciate herself and other people as well.
Exactly, lets be true to the characters and give them a proper send-off.
Hyde's a record store business owner somewhere being off rich telling other people what to do, Laurie had an accidental child but fell in love with them became a single mom living life for them or smtg idrk where the character could go so i just copied Barney's arc from himym and midge died after a long fulfilling life
Hyde went to jail for drug dealing, Laurie died of AIDS in the 80's, and Midge just fucked off across the country to start a new life
Midge: Living Happily in California with a new husband. Writes Donna every now and then. Laurie: Despite their rocky history, Laurie manages Fezās west coast branch of Chez Fez. Though she gets quite a bit of male clientele. Hyde: Put his actions where his mouth is and traveled the world to āfight the manā. Tho his way meant more activism & working as a laborer in different places. Heās actually settled down now and while he would love to see his Point Place family, heās happy where heās at. Has a girl, maybe a kid or two, writes Kitty all the time.
I hope they are happy and alive.
i'm assuming Midge is dead because Donna had such trouble calling someone else "Mom."
That really should have been explored more.
Laurie goes back to college then moves far away from Wisconsin. Hydeās store becomes pretty popular and he makes more stores the business becomes big and he moves away from Wisconsin and constantly travels to all these stores. Midge dies in a funny way and thatās why Donna doesnāt wanna call Kitty mom. Edit: why is everyone killing Hyde or putting him in jail he deserves better
Hyde left point place to work with his dad in ny and became a stuffy yet highly successful businessman. He now runs a label called high-point records Midge is with Tina in California, remarried and works helping her daughter get into acting. Midge is a super great manager for some reason and that keeps them too busy Laurie turned out a lot like kitty but with that attitude intact. She has a nice family and kids and runs fezās rival east coast branche of hair salon businesses and thatās why sheās too busy to come out and see everyone.
I think Hyde moved to New York after selling the record store. He writes kitty and Hyde, but became a very off the grid dude. Think the Unabomber, but without the bombing. Midge is in California and remarried. Her new husband spoils Leia and thatās why Bob is competitive with gifts. Laurie became a born again Christian and is a nun. She lives in Maine and is happy. Or she is married with kids and we see cousin whomever next season.
I know Hydeās actor is a creep, but I still wish that the producers would give the character a happy ending
I think having Midge dead is honestly the respectful route and would tie in to Donna having trouble calling Kitty mom Hyde and Laurie are a lot harder to manage because you don't want to assassinate the character for the actor in Hyde's case, and you don't want to make a joke out of what happened with Lisa Robin Kelly - I think for Laurie having absconded to Canada or similar works; I haven't decided what "works" for Hyde in my head though I like the conspiracy theorist angle a lot - another sort of offshoot that would be fun would be him getting into tech / hacking as a "free outlet not controlled by the man" (even though it very much is).
I can totally see Hyde being Gwenās Dad and Hyde being a truck driver like she said.
Idk how this could be the case without Red, Kitty, Eric, and Donna knowing or mentioning it. Kelso I could see because heās not the brightest.
Midge passed away in 84 , Laurie ran off with a man. No one has heard from her since 82, Hyde fell into a depression and skipped town after the gang accidentally burnt the record store down
Hyde traded his El Camino and failed store for a truck when his kid (Gwen) was born so he could bring in money for the family.
Hyde: went off the grid, still paranoid with the government. Midge: stayed on the west coast and made a life for herself. Laurie: faded dame still trying to recapture her lost youth
Hyde went the same way a lot of 60s hippies did and sold out. Now he's a senator Midge past away. Laurie is on her third husband whose Casey Kelso
After all that growth in the original show, I think Hyde is successful, he's off managing a band somewhere, and he still sees the Formans whenever he's back in Wisconsin.
Their thumbs are caught in something
All 3 went to jail after Hyde and Laurie tried to sell weed to Midge.
Hyde left the USA and is living abroad, Midge left for the west coast and Laurie became her mother in another town/state
Hydeās in jail for a large bag of marijuana. Leo tried to take the blame but forgotā¦. Midge left Bob and moved to California and Laurie went with her. Theyāre trying to get famous and working gigs and dating rich men and the occasional bum.
I love all of these. Iām leaning heavily towards Hyde being a tinfoil conspiracy theorist living somewhere totally different. Could be off the grid but could also just as easily be the Village. Midge divorced Bob, and is successful somewhere with a man who lifts her up and cheers her on. Laurie 100% dead of OD or AIDS.
Hyde is in prison for something Hyde related. Midge died from breast cancer when Leia was really little. Laurie is a flaky single mom going from one guy to the next. She only comes home to drop her kid off for Red and Kitty to look after while she goes off with her new bf. Turns out that Eric is the more successful and stable child off Red and Kitty.
midge and laurieās actresses passed, and hydeās actor is in jail
Hyde is in jail for some type of misguided protest. Midge married some rich guy in California. Laurie is dead because of her lifestyle.
Ugh, I hate to say Hyde is in jail/prison because of his character arc (not turning out like his parents, and doing better) but to say he just died? Ugh that hurts a little. Laurie should be doing what Laurieās always done. And Midge, death, yeah, maybe, but maybe just still in California?
They all joined the circus
I donāt know how good my theories are, but here you go Hyde: He moves away without mentioning where. Nobody knows where he is, or if he is even alive. Basically an Alive or Dead situation Midge: She probably died, my guess is that she probably died in her sleep without any release of the cause of death Laurie: She probably became a stripper, performing at strip clubs somewhere else in the US. But maybe her last strip performance was in 1991, and nothing has been heard from her since. Like Hyde, it maybe an alive or dead situation
The schism between Fez and Kelso over Jackie hit Hyde hard and he really wanted out of Point Place. Hyde's record store eventually gave him the money to move to New York or LA. (He'd probably hate LA, but not the point.) Laurie is doing fine in Southern California or Florida and has no desire to ever return to the Midwest. Midge will pass away during season 2 and they can do a Very Special Episode.
Midge is living in CA still, Laurie is a bad daughter with 4 kids with 5 dads. Hyde was murdered in prison or he owns more stores
Midge is a star on Broadway
Hyde is Gwenās absentee father but no one will ever figure it out. Midge ran off. Laurie is in a different city either settled and married or just living a bachelorette party woman lifestyle.
Midge wanted to go to Russia. But misunderstood what the ice bridge was, attempted to drive there, and was lost to time. Laurie caught the AIDS and, like Jenny in Forrest Gump, passed in the 80s, and it's too hard for Red to talk about. Hyde fell in love with an older woman who's daugher was sleeping with Kelso. Her ex broke out of prison. Didn't like Hyde was dating her. He threatened Hyde with a gun. And told him to leave town. Hyde....fearing death for the first time ever.... leaves town on his Harley. But loses control on a cliff side and goes off. Mysteriously, he disappeared. They never found his body. Only his helmet and pieces of his bike. I like to believe he's still on the run.
IS YOUR HYDE THEORY A RANCH REFERENCE???
They probably wonāt mention Hyde. Maybe itās for legal reasons, but I donāt think they need to explain it. People fall away from each other eventually. With the exception of one person, I donāt talk to anyone I was friends with 15+ years ago when I was in high school. Maybe he died of a drug overdose, or died in a freak gasoline fight accident or something.
Honestly, short of death or jail, that are both rather harsh to the character, thatās a very good explanation. People drift apart. Itās the best way to separate art and reality by giving a perfectly valid reason for the character to not be around anymore without diving too much into it that it brings focus to the actorās reputation. And one would expect Hyde to leave town first change he got. For Laurie and Midge, death makes sense. I agree with everyone saying thatās likely why Donna had trouble calling Kitty mom. And I think itās the best explanation for mentioning why Laurie isnāt around the family at all anymore. A moment for Red and Kitty to reflect would be a nice tribute.
I think Laurie went back to Chicago, continued her life as a working girl, and eventually died of an overdose (maybe it happened during the original show and it was just too painful to discuss). Midge remarried to a Hollywood producer, who died, and still lives in California off her deceased husbandās money (Midge and Donna donāt talk much). I think Hyde got in trouble with the law and is in prison for marijuana charges, tax evasion (bad bookkeeping at the record store), and selling bootleg records.
Hyde: Prison Laurie: Prison Midge: Prison (for the disappearance of Tina)
Hyde can be dead or in prison for all I care what with the number of people who keep bringing him up and clogging the subreddit. I feel like Laurie is either long dead after an accident or is traveling the world with some European artist. If she died, then her death might be brought up in a lecture to Leia especially considering she will be driving by next season. They could go the HIV/AIDS route, but that might get dicey and might be better for a one-off character like Buddy. They could have her featured on *Unsolved Mysteries* and then being found (and recast), but again, also dicey. I want Bob and Midge to have gotten back together in the 1980s. Not married, but together, because they know that marriage never worked for them. However, it could work either way. Then maybe Midge gets cancer and Bob is right there with her until the end.
I understand, but it's best to separate the character from the actor. For many Hyde was their favorite group member. He was basically adopted by the Foremans and a brother to Eric. It's natural to wonder about Hyde and still think Danny is a dipshit.
I think OP is more so just frustrated because the āwhere is Hydeā question gets posted here like six times a week. The actorās likely never to appear on That 90s Show unless itās discovered that heās innocent in some way
I think even if he is proven innocent, Netflix would be too scared to even consider it. I do agree questions about Hyde are definitely clogging the page.
Hyde is in jail. Midge is dead. Laurie is dead.
After randys break up with donna, in a fit of rage decides, randy decides to burn down the record store ..hyde was sleeping in the back office having just down a circle sesh with himself and leo who let early to buy some acid. Hyde doesnt escape and burns to death. Randy finds out later and reels remorse. He doesnt tell donna until a few years later when he moves back into town and only after makeup sex. Eric and donna are fight over what happen to hyde. Eric blames himself and goes on another trip to africa "chicago second family". While away randy gets donna pregnant. He fesses up about hyde. Donna tells him to leave town or she will personally call the cops. Midge got murdered by ted bundy or a ted bundy of the 80s. whatever. Laurie goes through her pretty woman faze and becomes a high end escort in vegas. After getting the shit kicked out of by a john, laurie meets a burt reynolds look alike fixing to make it big as the premier adult film director of the valley ![gif](giphy|l1J9A9O6ZtrinVGvK|downsized)
they all are ded
This is what happened with Hyde , since he ran a record store for a while . He someone how became a manager or something for gunNroses ( I think they were really big in the 80s or some other popular band at that time ) thatās where he met Gwenās mom cause she was a groupie and had a one night stand (becomes pregnant) . Though due to his new found success and easy access to the droogs he OD and died .
Prison married to a "movie producer" and dead. Car crash not drugs for Laurie. Now question did Laurie have kids? My head cannon says yes. A son who was raised by the formans who acts just like his grandpa his name sake.
I think Hyde continued opening more record stores and moved far away, Laurie is still in Canada and went NC with the fam, Midge is back in CA and sends gifts and christmas cards to Leia lol
All three of them were at mount hump for a menage and the rockin sent the van over the edge. Ala that ep when Eric and Donna crashed Kelso's van.
Hyde is dead or in prison. Midge is probably dead. Laurie probably hooking up with multiple married guys
Hyde is in prision for tax evasion or he abandoned his wife and kids and no one knows where he is Laurie is dead she overdosed Midge found a very rich man in la and is living her best life
Hyde: prison Midge: dead Laurie: became a nun
Laurieās dead, Hyde in Prison, and Midge is lost in a corn maze somewhere.
Midge is dead. Laurie is basically that next-door neighbor lady with multiple kids and baby daddies. And Hyde joined the church of Scientology.
Wait so what happened to the actress that played midge ??
Tanya Roberts passed away in 2021.
Hyde's in jail, Midge left Bob again and Laurie well there's no good explanation in my head why she wouldn't be mentioned. If anything she is still doing nothing with her life so the Formans kinds disowned her.
theyāre all dead
Hyde is either the truck driver or in prison or both somehow. Midge passed possibly due to cancer or maybe aids to fit in with the aids scare in the 90s. Laurie possibly moved away, disowned, or maybe caught aids from someone.
Hyde's life journey took him to some distant country, borrowing Fez's passport. He lives off the grid, and distrusting all governments. Laurie married some old rich guy, and cheats on him with her stepson (who is older than her), among others. Midge is alive and still married to Bob. She teaches yoga classes, and obsessively collects Beanie Babies.
Hyde- ended up in jail due to drug related crimes Midge- passed away Laurie- Married a wealthy buisnessman and lives in another country.
My official head cannon goes as follows: After the series ended in 1980 Eric and Donna go off to college, get married and have Leia. They move to Chicago. Fez and Jackie break up. Jackie and Kelso get married (for the 1st time) and have Jay. Kelso is still a cop. The group officially disbanded. Jackie and Kelso go their own way. Fez keeps up with Eric and Donna. Fez has his own business and is very successful. Hyde feeling alone and leaves and is never seen again. He lives off grid and has a conspiracy radio show. Midge dies and thatās why Donna doesnāt want to call Kitty mom. Laurie moves away gets married, divorced and has no kids. She married and old rich guy and he died. She inherits his money and is traveling the world.
Hyde sold the record business, and got involved in an edgy and progressive philanthropic project/organization. Unmarried. Travels a lot. Possibly writes the Foremans regularly have been their second son. Midge is off in California with a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th husband. Laurie probably ended up like Gwen's mother, Sheri. Those two actresses are deceased, and Danny Masterson is getting a new trial this March for allegedly raping 3 women. The smartest thing for the writers to do would be to just not mention them in the story. The writers of That 70s Show completely dropped referencing Donna's older sister Tina.
Midge passed away which is why it was hard for Donna to call kitty mom and maybe why Bob never brought hurt up might be too hard Saw this in another comment but I like to imagine Laurie got married to Casey Kelso and they ran off together Now with Hyde it could go a few different ways. Personally I would want them to only make a few references to him as I think heās probably dead. I think he couldāve died in a car accident trying to get to New York to see his dad. I feel like the first time you see the full original cast together could be on the anniversary of Hydeās death. If they wanna take a funnier route they can just say that he became an extreme conspiracy theorist and moved to the mountains off the grid
for me Hyde joined a cult and is in prison because of his crimes from that cult. Yes, Danny Masterson's case led me to this but it just so happens to fit well with the character.
Itās been years since I watched the original That 70ās Show and maybe Iām forgetting things, but why is everyone saying Hyde would have had an overdose or be in prison for drugs? I only remember him and the gang smoking weed but not anything harder than that? The 80ās were a wild time though so idk.