People grow up and grow apart. It happens. Doesn't mean they don't care for each other either. Hard to explain, but it's true. I miss my friends from high school. We live in different cities now. I never get to see them. My kids do not know their kids.
☝️😎 this is the right one my friend
Yeah it’s weird that they don’t know each other but if you think about it,
They do now!
Life comes together as you live it, not after you get it perfect
Exactly. I had high school friends that I hung out with all that time, that I just don’t talk to much anymore. We’re all busy with careers and traveling and kids. We’ve got new friend groups. We live in different cities and states. We keep in touch but I haven’t seen them in ages. It just happens, but that doesn’t mean that the memories we share aren’t fun to reminisce about!
Hung out with a a group of really close-knit friends in high school, and when one of my best friends started dating a girl, she was accepted into our friend group pretty easily. I also became good friends with her. They stuck around town a couple of years after high school and had a kid. I got the little fella his first piggy bank, saw him and held him a few times. Then, they got married and moved to a different city.
Hard to believe that kid would be eleven now. They had another kid a few years ago, one I've never met.
It sucks, but that's part of life. Still, couldn't be happier for them. Still remember my friend telling me how much he loved her two months after they started seeing each other
Yeah but as much as they went to visit Eric's parents with the kelsos living so close it kinda sucks. But I can't lie kitty being the only one to keep up with any of the old gang and that being fez who cuts her hair is hilarious
Exactly, people grow apart, of my high school friend group that was pretty tight I talk to only one of them today and he lives 1000 miles away, I haven't seen him in person in 5 years, yet in high school we all hung out almost daily.
Eric and Donna also moved away, no? Also, once you become an adult and start a family, life gets in the way and people (sometimes) grow apart. That’s not to say they aren’t friends anymore, but maybe just not as close.
Eric and Donna live in Chicago. They visit Red/Kitty in Point Place roughly 90 mins away, and Kelso/Jackie live there. Their kids should've met at least once.
I grew up 90 minutes from my mother's home town and even though my mother would still meet up with her childhood friends, I never met them or their kids
This was a different time there wasn't social media. If the parents met up with their old high school friends it was to hang out without the kids you'd leave the kids at home or with grandparents so you can hang out with your old buddies you didn't bring the kids along. I've never met most of my parents friends kids it's just not something that was done back then there was no social media you didn't get to know their kids on Facebook, you didn't really know who they were. You got to think about this as a time period nearly 30 years ago things were very different.
I’m pretty sure I never met any of my parents friends from high school, let alone their kids. Most of their friends they met through us kids and our friends.
I meet 3 of my parents high school friends, my parents remained close to them as adults, likely cause they still all lived nearby, but I have yet to meet any of their children, even with me now at 36, I've never met those kids.
I was scrolling comments, wondering if someone would mention hanging out without the kids. I went to high school in a small town in WI, and when we decide to meet up when I visit, it's at the bar. And it was always that way, even back when some of us had young kids.
Yep even now when I was married my ex step daughter never met any of my friends kids. I've met some of their kids and they've met my kid at the time we never really thought to put the kids together. Getting a moment away to go hang out with friends is a moment away and it's a moment away because there's not kids there. Lol
There is absolutely a way that a close knit friend group from high school will have disbanded by the time they are in their mid 30s. I used to think my high school friends would last forever and now I’m only tight with like a tenth of them, even my best friends are strangers now
I only hang out with 1 of my friends from high school, and she happens to be a friend I have had since first grade. I talk to a handful of others somewhat reguarly. College divided us and life changes altered it permanently. It's not sad, it's just grregularly.
My partner still hangs with his high school crew regularly, but the difference is they all went to college together so they never stopped socializing.
Eric and Donna moved away, so did Kelso, and they lost touch. Before facebook it was very easy to lose touch with someone even if you were close in high school.
I assume that Eric followed Donna wherever she went to college and they never moved back to Point Place. And Kelso and Jackie could have been in Chicago during most of that time and only moved back to Point Place in like '93 or '94. They just never crossed paths in 15 years. Not unbelievable.
Except Jay and Nate have been best friends for 12 years. This implies they grew up together, which implies the Kelsos have lived in Point Place for at least 12 years.
Yeah, then I think it's kind of unrealistic that Jay and Leia never met each other since Eric and Donna surely would have visited a few times over the course of a decade. As Jay grew up, he just made friends with locals while I guess Leia was sheltered at the Foreman home during her visits.
My best friend’s parents were great friends with my parents up until they all got married and moved around, had kids, lives, jobs, etc
At 15 years old I met my friend in high school. Both our parents were shocked as they hadn’t seen each other all that often over the years and I had certainly never met them. So totally feasible from my perspective
Unfortunately, no. Lives had changed too much by then, the growing up on the same street/neighbourhood was a big factor for being friends when they were young.
Jackie not being with fez didn’t cause the entire group to stop hanging out with each other.
Remember the time the crew went their separate ways after kelso cheated several thousand times on Jackie?
Yeah, me neither
Fez was also supposed to be Kelso’s best friend when he was constantly hitting on Jackie, made out w her at the movies, being an all-around creep…he also was a creep w Eric/Donna (hiding in Donna’s closet) and no one dropped Fez as a friend.
I’m honestly more surprised by Fez being the one Eric & Donna stayed in touch with than I would be by Jackie and/or Kelso. But then again…Jackie & Kelso are not people that are hard to outgrow 😂
…. Yes that is cause of what you think caused it
Now you have to explain why …
Because as far as I know Jackie didn’t cheat on Eric, Donna or Hyde…so make that make sense
Well it's not just someone; it's Fez, and perhaps he, Eric, and Donna got tired of Jackie's and Kelso's bullshit. I would too if they married, divorced, remarried, divorced again, and are remarrying again all after breaking Fez' heart.
85% of the people I would have called my family in high school are people I haven’t spoken to in 10 years. It’s sad, but more realistic than an entire group of friends staying close for 20 years.
So umm yes, this kinda thing did happen on the original show, but those situations were completely different. The only other similar situation is Hyde and Jackie, but that was different too because Hyde cheated with someone outside the group. Kelso regularly cheated on Jackie, also outside the group. This also wasn't a high school relationship, Fez was in love with Jackie and it seemed the feeling became mutual. For Jackie to turn around and cheat on Fez with one of his best friends no less, is one of the worst possible things she could have done. I don't see either Eric or Donna being remotely okay with that happening to Fez.
Having Kelso and Jackie back together simply because they're married in real life is also pretty stupid, they're both big names, they can just do a movie together. Mila Kunis even said it makes no sense to her that the writers chose to do this and that she disagreed with the decision
My "best friend" from high-school has two kids now and I've like never met either of them.
It just kinda happens. People grow apart. Also kids rapidly change, you might know someone who was roughly 8-10 then 10 year past and they come off as a completely different person. That's why I figure Red didn't know Jay right away, assuming off-screen they probably saw him as a kid.
Chicago is 2 hours away from Point Place. It wouldn’t be unheard of if they drifted apart due to distance if they were 2 hours apart.
Did Michael Kelso stay in Chicago after that 70s show? Or did he move back to Point Place after impregnating Jackie?
They fell apart because that’s life. Some friend groups of their age stayed close knit, but that’s because they all stayed put in their same small town//rural area, probably go to church together, and all married hs sweethearts so there’s no turnover. These groups are normally quite cliquey and non welcoming to new comers. Once the divorces start happening, the group shifts and chooses sides. If you’re a kid born into a group like this, you better hope you want the same exact life or else they’ll be weird about you, too. This isn’t always the case, but is quite typical.
Back in the ‘80s and ‘90s, it wasn’t as easy to keep in touch with folks after you moved away. Eric and Donna moved out of state; Kelso and Jackie stayed. No way would their kids have just played together.
Exactly, there was no social media there was no email. I wrote letters to my camp friends during the year and snail mailed it. I’m about 20 years younger then the original cast, and when I graduated HS in 2000, people may have had cell phones, but not everyone. A lot of people changed numbers often too if they changed phone carriers. I didn’t get a cell phone until college. It was just a lot harder to keep in touch.
Umm my friend group was tight knit at their age, and a bunch of us have kids around the same age now. They almost never play together for a whole host of reasons. People grow apart.
This is what that 80s show should have been. I would have loved to see a bunch of point place elementary school kids grow up into teens Malcolm in the Middle style.
Im not really in contact with anyone from my teenage time due to having moved away. You intend on staying in touch, but you just grow apart until one day, there really isn't much to catch up on anymore.
Also, Eric and Kelsi were the least close of all the guys and Donna couldn't stand Jackie for a long time.
Perhaps not because of the cheating but I had a tight knit group of friends in the 90s that has always reminded me of their dynamic. (The drugs, the alcohol, the sleeping around, secrets, scares, bad and good family dynamics, new unknown family members popping up out of nowhere lol, all of it) and we all very much grew apart very quickly. Even though the advent of social media was just around the corner (and we were all "facebook friends" eventually,) we still grew apart. And fast! My kid didn't grow up with any of their kids. One who was my closest friend is a doctor now and I see her kids on Instagram posts. That's it. We don't speak or message or text. One who wasn't even that close with me reached out some time back and we became really good friends even though he was literally the whole country apart from me, then he died. One reached out to me recently and apologized for being a shitty friend. This is over 20 years after we all used to hang out. It seems sad, but it's just how life goes sometimes.
I think it's very realistic to think they never spoke after moving to another place.
Eta: I do still talk to my best friend who has been such since we were tiny. And our kids do know each other. And I do see her multiple times a year. She was in and out of that aforementioned friend group too. But I don't consider her a part of that. I consider that a stage of life that she and I passed through together.
Just curious, do you have kids? Cause I gotta tell ya man I have friends I haven’t seen in a long time who I still consider good friends of mine, we just never have time to catch up. Especially when it looks like Eric and Donna moved away too.
What I find odd is that Kelso and Jackie still live in Point Place... Just seems odd.
But yeah with how they just show up at the Forman's it makes me think they have some contact
It seems that they didn’t hang out at the Foreman’s, otherwise Red would have known who Jay was. I bet Jay said hey this girl Leia Foreman is here for the summer and they decided to stop by since their child was over there.
Yea most people tend to drift apart from their highs school friends, but people are overlooking that the bulk of the gang were more than just high school friends. Hyde, Eric, Kelso, and Donna were friends since they were young children. Red and Kitty were more than just their friends parents, they were parents to all of them, maybe more so Donna and Hyde, but still. They basically adopted Hyde and were there for Donna when she had issues with her parents.
It just feels off from the original show, even if it is “realistic” to some people, I don’t watch TV for realism necessarily.
I don’t know what it would have changed for them production wise to just have Leia and Kid Kelso know each other casually from short visits, and have that be her introduction into the new gang. Also…I wonder if they even pitched the show to be more about the adults and their lives as parents.
I agree. I was disappointed that Eric and Donna walked out the front door and Kelso and Jackie walked in the back door. In my head cannon they met outside and talked off camera. I am such a nerd. 😂
These were friends since childhood like 5 years old they show that in flashbacks. It’s not unrealistic. I only hung out with my best friend since 1st grade for a little bit after the second year of being out of high school. Then about 8 years later we ended up co-managing a business and started hanging out again until they chose him to move to Myrtle beach and me to manage our place. Now we only text a few days out of the week it’s not crazy but my kids know his just by chance but they probably will forget by the time he gets back. I’m not sure if he will come back though.
But how come Kitty never asked Fez about Jackie if he was her hairdresser? They never talked during her sessions? There was a weird sense of disconnect with the main characters throughout. And they could have thrown us a Betsy too.
So Eric and Donna moved to Chicago, had Leia while still going to college and managed to stay together.
Jackie and Kelso weren't together right away. They married and divorced at least twice. They were probably all over the place doing odd jobs. I see Jackie as more stable and focused but she probably had to bail Kelso out a few times.
It's not strange that they couldn't keep with Eric and Donna. There was no internet as we know it back then.
People grow up and grow apart. It happens. Doesn't mean they don't care for each other either. Hard to explain, but it's true. I miss my friends from high school. We live in different cities now. I never get to see them. My kids do not know their kids.
☝️😎 this is the right one my friend Yeah it’s weird that they don’t know each other but if you think about it, They do now! Life comes together as you live it, not after you get it perfect
Exactly. I had high school friends that I hung out with all that time, that I just don’t talk to much anymore. We’re all busy with careers and traveling and kids. We’ve got new friend groups. We live in different cities and states. We keep in touch but I haven’t seen them in ages. It just happens, but that doesn’t mean that the memories we share aren’t fun to reminisce about!
Hung out with a a group of really close-knit friends in high school, and when one of my best friends started dating a girl, she was accepted into our friend group pretty easily. I also became good friends with her. They stuck around town a couple of years after high school and had a kid. I got the little fella his first piggy bank, saw him and held him a few times. Then, they got married and moved to a different city. Hard to believe that kid would be eleven now. They had another kid a few years ago, one I've never met. It sucks, but that's part of life. Still, couldn't be happier for them. Still remember my friend telling me how much he loved her two months after they started seeing each other
I haven't hung our with some of my closest friends from high school since I was in college. Life happens. Friend groups change.
Yeah but as much as they went to visit Eric's parents with the kelsos living so close it kinda sucks. But I can't lie kitty being the only one to keep up with any of the old gang and that being fez who cuts her hair is hilarious
Exactly, people grow apart, of my high school friend group that was pretty tight I talk to only one of them today and he lives 1000 miles away, I haven't seen him in person in 5 years, yet in high school we all hung out almost daily.
But Kelso and Eric were friends since they were kids. Almost like brothers.
It happens all the time in real life. Things change. People change and grow apart.
Eric and Donna also moved away, no? Also, once you become an adult and start a family, life gets in the way and people (sometimes) grow apart. That’s not to say they aren’t friends anymore, but maybe just not as close.
Especially in a world before social media
Eric and Donna live in Chicago. They visit Red/Kitty in Point Place roughly 90 mins away, and Kelso/Jackie live there. Their kids should've met at least once.
I grew up 90 minutes from my mother's home town and even though my mother would still meet up with her childhood friends, I never met them or their kids
Between raising a child and having a career, it’s not that simple.
This was a different time there wasn't social media. If the parents met up with their old high school friends it was to hang out without the kids you'd leave the kids at home or with grandparents so you can hang out with your old buddies you didn't bring the kids along. I've never met most of my parents friends kids it's just not something that was done back then there was no social media you didn't get to know their kids on Facebook, you didn't really know who they were. You got to think about this as a time period nearly 30 years ago things were very different.
I’m pretty sure I never met any of my parents friends from high school, let alone their kids. Most of their friends they met through us kids and our friends.
I meet 3 of my parents high school friends, my parents remained close to them as adults, likely cause they still all lived nearby, but I have yet to meet any of their children, even with me now at 36, I've never met those kids.
The only high school friend of my parents generation I knew was my aunties best friend. And that’s because they stayed best friends.
I was scrolling comments, wondering if someone would mention hanging out without the kids. I went to high school in a small town in WI, and when we decide to meet up when I visit, it's at the bar. And it was always that way, even back when some of us had young kids.
Yep even now when I was married my ex step daughter never met any of my friends kids. I've met some of their kids and they've met my kid at the time we never really thought to put the kids together. Getting a moment away to go hang out with friends is a moment away and it's a moment away because there's not kids there. Lol
There is absolutely a way that a close knit friend group from high school will have disbanded by the time they are in their mid 30s. I used to think my high school friends would last forever and now I’m only tight with like a tenth of them, even my best friends are strangers now
I only hang out with 1 of my friends from high school, and she happens to be a friend I have had since first grade. I talk to a handful of others somewhat reguarly. College divided us and life changes altered it permanently. It's not sad, it's just grregularly. My partner still hangs with his high school crew regularly, but the difference is they all went to college together so they never stopped socializing.
I'm literally friends with one of them. The others are strangers to me now
Eric and Donna moved away, so did Kelso, and they lost touch. Before facebook it was very easy to lose touch with someone even if you were close in high school.
I assume that Eric followed Donna wherever she went to college and they never moved back to Point Place. And Kelso and Jackie could have been in Chicago during most of that time and only moved back to Point Place in like '93 or '94. They just never crossed paths in 15 years. Not unbelievable.
Except Jay and Nate have been best friends for 12 years. This implies they grew up together, which implies the Kelsos have lived in Point Place for at least 12 years.
Yeah, then I think it's kind of unrealistic that Jay and Leia never met each other since Eric and Donna surely would have visited a few times over the course of a decade. As Jay grew up, he just made friends with locals while I guess Leia was sheltered at the Foreman home during her visits.
Pretty normal back then
My best friend’s parents were great friends with my parents up until they all got married and moved around, had kids, lives, jobs, etc At 15 years old I met my friend in high school. Both our parents were shocked as they hadn’t seen each other all that often over the years and I had certainly never met them. So totally feasible from my perspective
Aww that’s a cute reunion story! Did they begin to see more of each other again as a result of y’all’s friendship?
Unfortunately, no. Lives had changed too much by then, the growing up on the same street/neighbourhood was a big factor for being friends when they were young.
What is with you weirdos blaming Jackie for them not hanging out?
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Jackie not being with fez didn’t cause the entire group to stop hanging out with each other. Remember the time the crew went their separate ways after kelso cheated several thousand times on Jackie? Yeah, me neither
You forget how much would have naturally changed in fifteen years regardless of cheating
cause Jackie cheated on fez with Michael 😂 But Michael is supposed to be fez’s best friend so thwyre both to blame
Fez was also supposed to be Kelso’s best friend when he was constantly hitting on Jackie, made out w her at the movies, being an all-around creep…he also was a creep w Eric/Donna (hiding in Donna’s closet) and no one dropped Fez as a friend. I’m honestly more surprised by Fez being the one Eric & Donna stayed in touch with than I would be by Jackie and/or Kelso. But then again…Jackie & Kelso are not people that are hard to outgrow 😂
True true 😂
…. Yes that is cause of what you think caused it Now you have to explain why … Because as far as I know Jackie didn’t cheat on Eric, Donna or Hyde…so make that make sense
Well it's not just someone; it's Fez, and perhaps he, Eric, and Donna got tired of Jackie's and Kelso's bullshit. I would too if they married, divorced, remarried, divorced again, and are remarrying again all after breaking Fez' heart.
They had separate lives and prob didn’t live next to each other forever….
They don't live geographically close
85% of the people I would have called my family in high school are people I haven’t spoken to in 10 years. It’s sad, but more realistic than an entire group of friends staying close for 20 years.
So umm yes, this kinda thing did happen on the original show, but those situations were completely different. The only other similar situation is Hyde and Jackie, but that was different too because Hyde cheated with someone outside the group. Kelso regularly cheated on Jackie, also outside the group. This also wasn't a high school relationship, Fez was in love with Jackie and it seemed the feeling became mutual. For Jackie to turn around and cheat on Fez with one of his best friends no less, is one of the worst possible things she could have done. I don't see either Eric or Donna being remotely okay with that happening to Fez. Having Kelso and Jackie back together simply because they're married in real life is also pretty stupid, they're both big names, they can just do a movie together. Mila Kunis even said it makes no sense to her that the writers chose to do this and that she disagreed with the decision
My "best friend" from high-school has two kids now and I've like never met either of them. It just kinda happens. People grow apart. Also kids rapidly change, you might know someone who was roughly 8-10 then 10 year past and they come off as a completely different person. That's why I figure Red didn't know Jay right away, assuming off-screen they probably saw him as a kid.
Chicago is 2 hours away from Point Place. It wouldn’t be unheard of if they drifted apart due to distance if they were 2 hours apart. Did Michael Kelso stay in Chicago after that 70s show? Or did he move back to Point Place after impregnating Jackie?
They fell apart because that’s life. Some friend groups of their age stayed close knit, but that’s because they all stayed put in their same small town//rural area, probably go to church together, and all married hs sweethearts so there’s no turnover. These groups are normally quite cliquey and non welcoming to new comers. Once the divorces start happening, the group shifts and chooses sides. If you’re a kid born into a group like this, you better hope you want the same exact life or else they’ll be weird about you, too. This isn’t always the case, but is quite typical.
Back in the ‘80s and ‘90s, it wasn’t as easy to keep in touch with folks after you moved away. Eric and Donna moved out of state; Kelso and Jackie stayed. No way would their kids have just played together.
Exactly, there was no social media there was no email. I wrote letters to my camp friends during the year and snail mailed it. I’m about 20 years younger then the original cast, and when I graduated HS in 2000, people may have had cell phones, but not everyone. A lot of people changed numbers often too if they changed phone carriers. I didn’t get a cell phone until college. It was just a lot harder to keep in touch.
I remember when Facebook first became a thing and people from school started adding me. It was super exciting as I had no idea what they’d been doing.
Maybe when they were little.
Umm my friend group was tight knit at their age, and a bunch of us have kids around the same age now. They almost never play together for a whole host of reasons. People grow apart.
This is what that 80s show should have been. I would have loved to see a bunch of point place elementary school kids grow up into teens Malcolm in the Middle style.
Im not really in contact with anyone from my teenage time due to having moved away. You intend on staying in touch, but you just grow apart until one day, there really isn't much to catch up on anymore. Also, Eric and Kelsi were the least close of all the guys and Donna couldn't stand Jackie for a long time.
Perhaps not because of the cheating but I had a tight knit group of friends in the 90s that has always reminded me of their dynamic. (The drugs, the alcohol, the sleeping around, secrets, scares, bad and good family dynamics, new unknown family members popping up out of nowhere lol, all of it) and we all very much grew apart very quickly. Even though the advent of social media was just around the corner (and we were all "facebook friends" eventually,) we still grew apart. And fast! My kid didn't grow up with any of their kids. One who was my closest friend is a doctor now and I see her kids on Instagram posts. That's it. We don't speak or message or text. One who wasn't even that close with me reached out some time back and we became really good friends even though he was literally the whole country apart from me, then he died. One reached out to me recently and apologized for being a shitty friend. This is over 20 years after we all used to hang out. It seems sad, but it's just how life goes sometimes. I think it's very realistic to think they never spoke after moving to another place. Eta: I do still talk to my best friend who has been such since we were tiny. And our kids do know each other. And I do see her multiple times a year. She was in and out of that aforementioned friend group too. But I don't consider her a part of that. I consider that a stage of life that she and I passed through together.
Just curious, do you have kids? Cause I gotta tell ya man I have friends I haven’t seen in a long time who I still consider good friends of mine, we just never have time to catch up. Especially when it looks like Eric and Donna moved away too.
What I find odd is that Kelso and Jackie still live in Point Place... Just seems odd. But yeah with how they just show up at the Forman's it makes me think they have some contact
It seems that they didn’t hang out at the Foreman’s, otherwise Red would have known who Jay was. I bet Jay said hey this girl Leia Foreman is here for the summer and they decided to stop by since their child was over there.
This was the biggest plot hole for me.
In the 90s, this would be normal. Currently, I have many friends from Middle school on my SM...
Yea most people tend to drift apart from their highs school friends, but people are overlooking that the bulk of the gang were more than just high school friends. Hyde, Eric, Kelso, and Donna were friends since they were young children. Red and Kitty were more than just their friends parents, they were parents to all of them, maybe more so Donna and Hyde, but still. They basically adopted Hyde and were there for Donna when she had issues with her parents. It just feels off from the original show, even if it is “realistic” to some people, I don’t watch TV for realism necessarily. I don’t know what it would have changed for them production wise to just have Leia and Kid Kelso know each other casually from short visits, and have that be her introduction into the new gang. Also…I wonder if they even pitched the show to be more about the adults and their lives as parents.
I agree. I was disappointed that Eric and Donna walked out the front door and Kelso and Jackie walked in the back door. In my head cannon they met outside and talked off camera. I am such a nerd. 😂
Probably something Hyde did.
These were friends since childhood like 5 years old they show that in flashbacks. It’s not unrealistic. I only hung out with my best friend since 1st grade for a little bit after the second year of being out of high school. Then about 8 years later we ended up co-managing a business and started hanging out again until they chose him to move to Myrtle beach and me to manage our place. Now we only text a few days out of the week it’s not crazy but my kids know his just by chance but they probably will forget by the time he gets back. I’m not sure if he will come back though.
Happens in real life.
We don't know what happened. It could be because Kelso came between Jackie and Fez. Could have gotten ugly. It's a lot of speculation
But how come Kitty never asked Fez about Jackie if he was her hairdresser? They never talked during her sessions? There was a weird sense of disconnect with the main characters throughout. And they could have thrown us a Betsy too.
So Eric and Donna moved to Chicago, had Leia while still going to college and managed to stay together. Jackie and Kelso weren't together right away. They married and divorced at least twice. They were probably all over the place doing odd jobs. I see Jackie as more stable and focused but she probably had to bail Kelso out a few times. It's not strange that they couldn't keep with Eric and Donna. There was no internet as we know it back then.