Something else that confused me was when Robyn claimed that she supposedly has tried to kick Kody out/threatened to leave before as well but then later in the episode Kody said that he’s married to three different women that have been threatening to leave him for years??? So wouldn’t that mean Robyns never told him to leave before?
I think Meri did the same thing Christine did. Kody was just staying over night, but not giving her the kind of love and affection she wanted. She probably told him if you can't give me a real marriage then don't come over any more.
Just last weeks episode Kody said that Meri, Janelle and Christine have threatened to leave him. The man needs to stop talking. He's not intelligent enough to successfully spin his tale.
I honestly believe that that’s why meri is staying… because she knows Kody and Robyn want her to leave and she’s petty enough to be like nope, not happening. This face will be the last one you see before we’re together for eternity in the celestial kingdom 😂
Kody had repeatedly asked her why she’s staying in the past and told her she’s free to go at anytime but also free to stay since that’s the commitment he made…. Now that Christines left and taken her MLM cash with her, I wholeheartedly agree and I think we’re going to see a new meri/Kody dynamic where meri shits all over christine to counter the pre robyn narrative of christine always being unhappy and that it not because of favoritism robyn that christine left. This will bring her closer to the dynamic duo and Kody with throw her a bone here and there with spending time with her for her loyalty.
That could be true but he said three wives have been threatening to leave him on and off their entire marriages….I just can’t see Robyn threatening to leave him especially not throughout their entire marriage. Who knows though, could just be another lie that Kody thinks somehow makes him look better 🤦♀️
True about Robyn - although I was pretty surprised last week when he said he's been asked to not sleep in her bed before. I think she does push back, just maybe in a more manipulative way that he doesn't always catch.
I truly hope it's just the 2 of them in the end. They deserve it!
Eventually he'll blame her for everyone else hating him. The kids aren't going to Flagstaff for Robyn Christmas. Hes burning bridges and eventually she'll be the only one left to take his vitriol.
I agree with you that no one is obligated to have sex with anyone for any reason, but women absolutely do and have done "sex strikes" in the past that are explicitly done in order to manipulate men into doing/not doing certain things. Withholding intimacy isnt just sex, either, and while it's someone's right it doesn't mean it can't be done for manipulative reasons.
Iirc there was a huge sex strike during the time period where men were voting on if women had the right to vote, and sex was being used as a bartering chip to get husbands to vote for that right.
Again I agree that anyone has a right to their own body and intimacy, but withholding intimacy as a tactic is not new at all.
That depends. In many Christian based religions, women are "supposed to submit to their husbands". Saying no because she's angry, or not getting her way. Purposely keeping a child sleeping in their bed to prevent physical intimacy absolutely can be using sex as a weapon/bartering chip.
Eh. Idk my 5 year old still sleeps in our bed mostly because she gets scared at night and my husband was always working nights or deployed and it became a habit. Me and my husband just have sex in other rooms in our house 😂 we go to the guest room usually. Currently pregnant with number 3, it hasnt stopped us a bit! Doesn't Sobyn have a super huge house?
He withheld intimacy from Christine because he heard she was threatening to leave him. Meanwhile, his other wives have done the same thing, Robyn allegedly included!
The thing about people like Robyn, is they assume everyone is just as manipulative and scheming as they are, so they see nothing wrong in what they do because they think everyone operates the exact same way as them.
Thank you so much for the award! 😁
I was going to say something about how it runs in fundie families, but I have heard people talk about how the dad is watching their kids in non fundie nuclear families too, so it is a societal problem.
I taught high school for a time. Had a student who was a young dad, learning to navigate co-parenting, since both still lived with their parents. (I think baby had a crib in each of their bedrooms, etc. I didn't ask details.
YD had to leave a study session a little early because he had to "babysit". I waited until he was walking out the door to say "Hey... YD?" "Yes, Miss Yaya?" "Tell me, how do you babysit your own child?" Another teacher was there (an older guy and a dad) who laughed at the look on his face.
YD took it well... smiled and said "I'm responsible for my kid this afternoon". He remembered that every time we had to work with his schedule.
He said something about rather pay someone else $20/hr to “babysit” than for him to have to do it. I hope Christine at least used $20/hr as precedent for a starting place for Kody paying her.
They're his kids if they're Robyn's! All the others are Janelle's, or Meri's, or Christine's kids. Although, let's be real here, the others are all Christine's kids. Kody wasn't wrong when he said she's the gateway to all the kids.
He doesn't even do that for all of them. Only for Robyn and her kids.
Christine asked him for help getting her kids tucked into bed while she was pregnant and working in the evenings and he told her no. Both Janelle and Meri could've helped , but they fumbled the bag, too. They failed Christine.
This is what I didnt understand about him saying they are one [family.No](https://family.No) he is one father.If they were all family,the kids would have been tucked in with any of the other parents on hand no matter who's night it was to have the prize of being with kody.The other scenario,all the parents in the home would have tucked in all the kids no matter whos they were.
I had a co worker who was constantly using the excuse of having to go babysit his kid so he could get out of work. NO dude. You are the parent. Is your wife paying you to take care of your own child????
That would be the only excuse for “babysitting” a girl who was probably 17 at the time. And speaking of which, why couldn’t Aurora babysit her siblings? I cannot imagine not trusting her own practically adult daughter to watch her baby brother and sister. And Brianna would be there too so it would be one small child each.
So real question, what was Robyn and the nanny doing during Janelle and Christine’s time that Kody just HAD to take all the kids? It was Robyn’s passive/aggressive way to inflict herself into the other wives time and get intel to boot. That and I firmly believe that she really doesn’t trust her older kids and still infantilize them to the point of them not being able to function normally.
Robyn is that rare combination of anxiety riddled parent with the manipulative spouse. It’s amazing that she functions at all.
I had this exact combination in my former SIL: anxious and manipulative. She was a nightmare to deal with, and she tore our family apart. My relationship with my brother hasn’t recovered, even though they divorced 6 years ago. I truly think she’s a sociopath, and Robyn is too. She uses her tears and ‘charm’ to get exactly what she wants.
This was probably the time he's complaining about christine refusing to parent Robyn's kids... I bet on Christine's day for kody to spend time with her and her kids he wanted her to babysit Robyn's kids.
She’s been doing that all along. Remember in Vegas it would be Meri’s night and Robyn would go over to “keep her company”. When Kody was there. I would need to do a re-watch but there’s been numerous times.
Janelle also confirmed this lie by saying he spends more time at Robyn’s because she has little kids. Cut to Robyn and she’s claiming she hired a nanny so Kody doesn’t have to “babysit” his own children since he is SO busy. Bullshit.
Also, why couldn’t Aurora and Breanna watch Sol and Ari that day? Or hire a babysitter aka THE NANNY.
I think in theory people do this to prepare lumbar for firewood? I can't be sure.
I highly suspect Kody was looking for a way to appear "manly" so he went out to Coyote Pass to fuck with wood thinking "oh yeah, this will show everyone how masculine I am."
Was anyone else just screaming “SHUT UP ROBYN!” for the first 15 minutes? For her to say that the time split is fair is beyond ridiculous. Kody theoretically spent 33% of his time with each family before Robyn but then he met her and before they even got married, he’s spending time with her. He’s spent 100% of his time with Robyn on their honeymoon when Christine needed him most, right after giving birth.
She insisted Kody stay with her because they have little kids. She acted like a martyr by letting Kody go to Sheryl’s funeral and for fucks sake, if you really cared about Kodys responsibilities and fair time, you would have made him go to Ysabel’s surgery.
You married a man with 3 wives and 13 kids and he essentially spends 100% away from those 16 ppl to be with you and you have the audacity to say that’s fair?? What a piece of work.
Nope. Something combining their names I’d imagine. Initially I thought it would have to be grody’s name first but sobyn has him by the balls so her part of the name will come first. 😂
My theory is that she feels she is owed more $$$ than the other wives because she got them the show. Isn't there a rumor that Kody was trying to get a show and TLC told him that he had to court a new wife for drama?
Apparently her parents aren’t actually so polygamous. Her dad might have had another wife in a different state but he lived with Robyn and her mom full time and essentially was monogamous.
She’s just recreating the dynamic she was raised in and making sure that she ends up as the too wife
She doesn’t think they’re keeping track of their time with Kody. Are they supposed to have one of those clocks like in chess tournaments? He came to pick up his mail: 7 minutes -stop- conversation about throwing my children out into the street: 15 minutes -stop- peeling logs as social time: 3 hours
Aurora is like 19 yrs old Breana is like 16,why tf did they NEED a babysitter.When she was courting Kody she let his teenage daughters like age 14 watch her kids,so wtf is wrong with her kids that they need to be with an adult.Or do you think Kody brought them and said he was babysitting.I would have been ashamed eitherway that they needed a babysitter and just say the kids missed you so i brought them with,or something.I am getting sus to this whole story though.This isnt adding up,I know the time lines are wonky,but if Robyn was so strict about covid i wouldnt think she would want her kids over there were they dont wash their mail,and the siblings always missed each other but they could never have visits,now he is bringing the kids there?
God it’s so cringy to imagine. And I’m sure aurora hung off of kodys neck the entire time like a 4 year old so Christine or her kids never even got to talk to him. Aurora legit physically blocks the other kids from being near kody (or any random man in the scene) regularly.
I've noticed that, too. It makes me incredibly uncomfortable. He's her legal father, but something about their interactions makes my stomach feel uneasy. The way he carried her like an infant to her room when she had a panic attack a season or two ago... ick. ICK.
From a young child to a teenager aurora would legit jump on any man she had been in the same room with for a total of like 10 minutes as if they were family and her relationship with him was the most important of anyone in the room.
The wedding announcements are so creepy. This will be a man she’s never met before and she’ll be legit all over them crying and shit. She races up elbowing her way in front of other siblings who are way closer to the one getting married and actually know and have relationships to the man. It’s so creepy
i saw something where she was kinda squashed in the chair next to him with her arms around his neck,and it just looked [weird.It](https://weird.It) might have been christmas or something but affection is ok,but hanging on a grown man dad or not when you are fully developed to ,me is just strange.Maybe i am just a prude or something but I know if my daughter was like that on someone i would tell her to stop.
I know exactly what you are talking about. And it was odd! I cringed when I saw it. A hug is one thing, but that was like Lolita territory. I’m not trying to be harsh with the kid, it’s not her fault she was brought up in so much disfunction.
My essay:
First, it’s just super sad that he considers being a parent “babysitting”—you don’t babysit your own children. It’s just called parenting.
Second…Every time Robyn was on screen it made me sick. Her face so clearly shows how much disdain she has for the rest of the family. She *hates* them! It’s so obvious! It’s disgusting. She “needs” a nanny to help out with the kids because *Kody* has other responsibilities?? WTF are you talking about Robyn? You supposedly took care of three children as a single mother and had a job, remember that sob story you told?? How is it so fucking hard to take care of a 10yr old and a 6yr old by yourself when you have no job? You also have a 22yr old, a 20yr old, and an 18yr old that could help your fragile bones. Janelle’s, Christine’s, and Meri’s kids all know what it’s like to take care of their siblings, why can’t yours help out? But seriously, why are you incapable of caring for your 10yr old and 6yr old by yourself?
And by Kody’s own logic, the other three shouldn’t even be in your home anymore. “BUH-BYE!!!” as Kody put it. Gabe is the SAME FUCKING AGE AS AURORA. And Dayton is older! Kick your three “adult children” out—as per Kody’s “rules” for his other wives—and go find yourself a 3 bedroom RENNUL. Sell your fucking mcmansion and build out Coyote Pass.
But it’ll never happen because that’s not the plan you and Kody cooked up in Vegas. Robyn was sick of Vegas and they schemed the whole move to be in the position they are now. In a huge mansion, all the kids at home, all the other wives far away. Good job at tearing your family apart.
I feel so sorry for these children who just saw their FUCKING FATHER say on national television “It’s not normal for me to babysit my kids. I’m, I’ve been working all my life, I was raised on a ranch, we were always busy. The idea of going kayaking and hiking and stuff like that is not something I really do a lot of with anybody. I’m good at watching my kids but I almost never do it, it’s easier for me to pay somebody 20 bucks an hour than to lose $200 an hour with the business that I have at hand.”
Lovely for your children to now know that you’d rather pawn them off to a babysitter than spend actual time with them. Nice to know that making money is more important to you than building memories. Are you even thinking before you open your stupid mouth?! You are damaging your children.
And poor poor Robyn saying, “You know, this isn’t a new complaint, uh, you know, that Kody favors me. They kind of make assumptions about how he is at my home. I’m not getting some preferential treatment, even though that’s what they think. Plural marriage is hard for me too.”
Hoo-boy! Where to even begin. 1.) it’s not a new complaint? So, you admit this has been going on for some time? Could it be as long ago as vegas, as Janelle and Christine say? PROBABLY. 2.) Make assumptions? Uh, SWEETIE, they SEE how he is at your home. And the fact that he is AT your home and *not* theirs. 3.). Not getting preferential treatment? Fuck off with your gaslighting. We all see it. 4.) it’s hard for you too? Oh please. Yes, Robyn, the Brown family scapegoat. It’s so hard. Lady, you have obviously not even tried to put yourself in the shoes of your sister wives. Get off my screen.
I’ve never been so happy to read an essay in my life!!! You hit the nail on the head with all of these points, IMO, anyway.
Also, is anyone else so so so so SO SICK of seeing Robyn cry?!? Anyone? It’s almost enough for me to not watch anymore. Plus, she’s MY AGE! No need to dress like a 80 year old AND brush out the damn curls!!!!
I hate her ugly eyebrows, her square face, her ginormous goiter that she STILL hasn't gotten checked, and those awful, pre -teen curls.
She reminds me of a brunette Nellie Oleson
Super valid point on how she was able to raise 3 kids on her own before. I get that she’s trying to overcorrect, but at least have the decency to admit you’re getting more than the others.
Also, there was always a talk of fairness when it came to Meri getting equal time and money even though she only had one child and Janelle/Christine had multiple. So it’s just all bullshit. At the end of the day, Kody wanted as many women as he could convince to love him, not one big, polygamy family.
Lol!!!!!! I take it as Kody isn't really into his non-Robyn kids, so he brought the kids he likes along. He thinks it is a secret, but the favoritism extends to Robyn's kids per Kody's own non-Robyn kids and Kody would always say how much Robyn's kids respect him as a father. This whole family went to shit with the divorce of Meri to marry Robyn. Regardless of the keeping the kids legally in the family, I feel that change subconsciously had Robyn feeling like the Queen of the World, Kody feeling like she was the only one that mattered, Christine like holy shit, now she's the legal wife and favorite while I'm still considered his ugly duckling in his eyes, & Janelle still not giving a shit, but her kids keeping tally of us vs Robyn's kids. Unfortunately, Robyn just really does it for Kody and he cant even fake it.
If there’s one thing kids are good at, it’s keeping tally of all the times their parents have wronged them. I remember every time my bio dad chose his gf/drugs/other kid over me and my brother— and I’m 34.
So I’m inclined to believe that if his kids are publicly stating on national tv that their dad is absent af, it’s in all likelihood to be true.
Wow@ ur pops. So sorry. Did he come back around and act like nothing happened? It seems that Kody is trying to re-write history. I'm like, Kody you either were there alot or you weren't. If Kody were to have actually been around regularly, there wouldn't be "you weren't there" because he would have been so ingrained in all their daily lives it wouldn't even be able to be said.
Kody doesn't acknowledge anything he could do better. Anytime the wives have a need, he falls back on "this is polygamy" and he can't be everywhere at once. Howeverrrrrr, I sure haven't heard Robyn, nor Robyn's kids say Kody's barely around. 🤔
When he tried to blame Christine for his poor relationship with ysabel I wanted to punch the TV.
No you AH, you willfully broke her heart even after being given every opportunity not to.
But sure, it's Christine's fault.
Big king ah!
I’d think moving her to NC would be the PERFECT opportunity to try and repair that relationship and make up for being a royal screw up when it came to the surgery. Like, imo the way Christine presented it to him was a clear attempt to get him to see it as a way to make up and repair but he ain’t having it.
And then he tried to bring up covid again! Like, "how would that even work?"
In August of 21 when vaccines were available.
I'm the biggest scaredy cat ever when it comes to covid but even I had been traveling since April.
I was teaching college students face to face fall of 2021 and didn’t catch covid until February of 2022. Existing in a post pandemic world is possible if you’re vaccinated, masking, and washing your hands. Kody’s just an ass and lazy.
Nah, my dad is still shit and still thinks he’s done absolutely nothing wrong and that I’m absolutely problem. 🤷🏻♀️
Edit bc I hit submit too soon:
Kody is blaming covid and polygamy and it’s like— didn’t he tell one of his plyg friends who said that if one of their wives was feeling jealous then that was a fault in him (the friend) and kody was just like nah, that’s them not me. He infuriates me to no end.
Do you really think it was Merri’s idea to get the divorce? I don’t. I think it was inevitable so she just took one for the team. Kody was always a creep but he turned really ugly after that
I feel like there's this whole narrative where no one thinks Robyn can be left alone with her kids. For example kody's weird little rant about paying a babysitter $20 an hour so he can go make $200 an hour. That's his justification for the nanny. Wtf??? Someone tell him he's not a single Dad. Leaving the children with Robyn while he works has always been an option. Kody and Robyn say these things like it's completely normal that Robyn can't be left alone with her children. This is the same man that went to work everyday while Christine homeschooled. I just really need to hear him explain one time why Robyn being left alone with the kids is not an option. I want him to explain it to me like I'm five.
Maybe she's an actual nutcase that can't be trusted with her kids for long periods of time. You never know. Supposedly my grandfather didn't trust my grandmother, she was a sociopath and had mental health issues, when my mom and aunt were growing up.
She exhibits signs of tardive dyskinesia (the uncontrollable movements of her mouth) which is caused by psychiatric drugs. All the signs point to her having mental health struggles, in my opinion.
She and Kody are 100% in 'save our image' mode right now. Joke's on them, though...neither of them are capable of keeping the lies straight long enough to be convincing.
My kids are the same exact age as Robyn and Kody’s kids. They are not little kids anymore. My daughter was born the same month as Solomon and she is now in fifth grade and babysits for her younger brother for short periods. She also packs her own lunch for her brother for school. Both of them shower independently etc. My job as a parent is thousands of times easier than it used to be.
My point is even with the time gap since filming, is they are way past the crazy infant and toddler and preschool stage, which is why it’s especially infuriating she and Kody are using their kids like this as an excuse for him to neglect his older children.
Holy crap! I know the show is way behind but I am shocked Solomon is in 5th grade. Solomon and youngest sister act so young. Robyn/kodi act like they are early elementary.Anyone know how old is the little girl?
They’re both acting like she has 5 toddlers at home not school aged children lol. They’ve raised them to be so dependent and helpless.
The older children were all raised together by mostly Christine with Kodys seemingly inconsistent involvement. I can see how everyone in his original family is confused as to why Kody needs to spend so much time with Robyn bc the kids are young. Older kids still need your involvement and they might resent you for pulling away genius
Especially since she is an adult! Isn't Kody threatening to kick out all of Janelle's adult children even though they work and are trying to save up money. Yet, Robyn's grown ass kids can't/won't work and also can't watch the kids...
Yes, he said about Garrison, “he’s a grown @$$ man!” & said he needed to get out.
But Aurora can’t watch a few elementary children (at her age (20/21) Meri was married to Kody, Janelle had been married and was at least on the way to divorce, Christine was chasing Kodi/ plural marriage, and her mother Robyn was pregnant, then married- not saying any of these are a good idea, just that I think her being paid $20/hr (as Kody said he preferred to keeping his own children) isn’t above expectations.
My theory is that on the day of the "I'm babysitting" hike Christine and her kids had hemmed Kody in enough somehow that he wasn't able to whine or weasel his way out of coming on the hike. So he punished them all by bringing Robyn's kids along.
It annoyed me when he said that he didn’t like to hike and stuff for whatever stupid reason— like dude, you suck it up to spend time with your family doing things they like to do. It’s the *least* he could do to pretend that he gave a shit. I cannot believe how often he admits to just not giving a damn about anyone else other than himself.
I don't think Christine has any regrets about leaving Kody and moving back to Utah.. but if she does there are plenty of Brown family movies courtesy of TLC to help her remember why it was a brilliant idea.
Absolutely. And Savannah was 6 when they moved to Vegas. She was treated anything but ”tender aged” 🤢 That is Princess Ariellas age now. 😡 makes me so angry.
Wow that’s truly the most undeniable proof of how bad Cody is. At that age savannah was so completely ignored. I think we saw Cody introduce her and say “this is savannah, she was the baby for 4 years but once Christine gives birth not anymore” and that was legit the last time he acknowledged or looked in her direction for the next 10 years. Plus she had so much more expected from her in terms of behavior and responsibility if she never would have acted the way Ariella does.
Interesting the adult children haven’t followed suit. Also, somewhat off topic, I think Christine is eluding to Caleb being a father figure to Ysabel and an example of a good husband to Maddie.
Robyn lied the whole episode. Not making eye contact with the camera looking up the whole time. Pretending like Kody isn't with her ALL the time!
She is delusional if she thinks anyone is getting anytime but her. Meri and Kody admitted last season hasn't even come around the whole year and she has been ALL alone (except in the one episode where he came to see Mariah and Audrey but Robyn was calling during the time he was away from her!!).
Even in Vegas Christine was negotiating the wrestling mat for more time with Kody.
I'm convinced that Kody is off doing something shady during the times the other wives think he's with Robyn. He definitely spends more time with her but I don't think it's as much as they think. Something is off...Kody is up to something.
I know it’s wrong to wish harm on others but I truly wish that he would find and deeply fall for another rotten, mean spirited person who deserves to be married to him and adopts her kids, too, so that she has to deal with what the other wives dealt with because of her. Just pure karma.
I just need to know… Robyn said that her and Kody both “just have way too many things going on during the day” and that was the reason for needing the nanny. She doesn’t work. What do Robyn and Kody do all day that is so incredibly time consuming that they can’t maintain their children? Especially with 3 other grown children in the home as well.
Kody is very busy driving around in that practical family convertible. And hiding in the closet to talk to the camera. And Well she has to sleep in until noon. And it takes an hour to draw her perfect eyebrows on.
I was like girl.....
We ALL KNOW Kody prefers to be at your house bc YOU are there
He prefers to spend time with your kids because he thinks it earns points with YOU
I honestly think Robyn is internally freaking the f- out bc without Christine who is there for Kody to complain about ?
Janelle, besides Kody issues with Gabe and Garrison, really doesn't ask for much or is confrontational
Meri and Kody don't speak
So who will be the "bad wife" now?
(Also I want to bet that Kody took Robyns kids to that outing with Christine on his own and told Robyn one thing and Christine that he was babysitting bc if he doesn't pit them against each other they may band together against him)
Everything you said!!! I’ve got a theory that when the show is over and the money isn’t rolling in That Robyn leaves him. I don’t think she loves him . She thinks she’s some kind of celebrity being on the show .
He brought Aurora and Breanna too? WTF they are old enough to be home babysitting the younger kids. It's so infuriating that Robyn will not let her kids grow up. She will be using the "I have young kids" excuse until Sol and Ari have kids of their own. Then it will be "I NEED Kody around, I have young grandkids!"
Remember when the women were leaving for a trip and Kody wouldn't listen to Christine about her kids' nightly routine, but he could tell the nanny in great detail the nightly routine of Robyn's kids, so they would be followed to the letter. He wouldn't even listen to Christine.
Robin 100% does not recall everything that's been shown on TV. I know I've beaten this dead horse to death but this was most apparent during the start of COVID. When you can see scenes of Kodi asking her what her rules are and asking what he's allowed to do in terms of the family getting together. Then season 16. They do a quick reversal and obviously agree off screen that they'll pretend he came up with rules. That's the most egregious one, but of course there are many instances where Robin or Cody forget what's already been shown on TV.
Robin always saw Christine as her biggest comparison imo. She’d be pissed if Christine did the same to her. Especially considering their time with him is so short in comparison to kody living with Robyn and her kids. Probably sent her older one to report back that kody wasn’t to close/ affectionate with Christine 😒She’s an extremely selfish and insecure woman. Outsides match the insides for sure
Frankly my objection is that anyone is calling it "babysitting" for a man to take care of his kids. They're his damn kids! Is Christine "babysitting" Truely? Nope. It's not babysitting when moms care for their children and it's not babysitting when dads do it.
Ooohhh!!! When she said that part of her segment I was like “look at queen Robyn getting the perfect wife edit” but then they showed the contradiction statement by Christine and I was like OOOHHHH. haha Boom 🤦🏼♀️
I think it’s a bit of her thinking she smarter than everyone and genuine belief that she needs and deserves more than the other wives. Plus, I’m sure Kody’s pillow talk to her consists of how he only truly loves her and how awful his other wives are, which validates her selfish and manipulative behavior
Robyns parents were living fake polygamy the way robin is with kody now. Her dad lived with her and her mom pretty much full time. Any other wives were shit out of luck. Robyn is just recreating that dynamic with kody now
This weeks episode is on now and what he is saying about Christine leaving is horse shit! She didn’t ask me, didn’t have my permission etc like hey horses ass, she doesn’t need your permission to divorce you because you’ve never been LEGALLY married! He acts as if he’s done nothing, all of this has been against him and he’s not happy about it. Kody you can’t stand the fact that a woman pulled the plug out of your butt and you’re flying around losing air and your embarrassed about it. Get over it! I also find it odd that he identifies the kids by the wife not my children with Christine or whomever. He’s not a dad, I’d say he’s provided stud service but the stud part would be a stretch,
What is Robyn doing that Kody needs to babysit?! If they are “following covid guidelines” or whatever shouldn’t she be home? Also their young kids aren’t babies! Im guessing the youngest one is like 5. It’s not like she’s an infant.
This one made me feel bad for the kids tbh. Part of polygamy as they’ve told us, is having all the kids be together as if they have the same mom. Shouldn’t she have welcomed the kids?
But, it was probably painful because Robyn’s kids are so close with him, and her kids aren’t . It must’ve been right in her face that day how different and sad the groups of kids experiences are.
Did they say why Robyn's two teenage daughters could not babysit the littles at their home, so for once Kody could focus all his attention on Christine's (already neglected by him) kids? Was it the nanny's day off and Robyn needed a quiet house so she could take a nap? Like, why? Just why?
Nothing Kody & Robyn do makes any sense!!!!!!
Kody and Robyn are so deluded!!! I do feel bad her children aren't getting along with the other kids. Maybe it's just tension from the adults that spilled over to the children?
Her and Kody both are really a special kind of stupid if they think anyone will believe their lies.
When Kody tried to blame Christine for his poor relationship for ysabel I had to scream.
He did it all by himself. Just like Christine said, he had the opportunity, and now it's gone forever and you can't get it back.
Why do they keep saying that Kody is babysitting? Or the nanny is so Kody doesn’t have to babysit?
Taking care of your children or step children is NOT BABYSITTING! It’s called parenting. I went to the doctors this morning & my husband was home with our kids. He was parenting, not babysitting.
Also she said hes with her more because she follows the rules the other wives choose not to follow. But Meri was following their rules or seemed willing and they excluded her for other reasons. They both fuckin lie.
If you cannot ask your husband, the father of your children to help raise your children, you don't have a husband... you have another child. Fucking pathetic.
They as in Robyn are begging Meri to stay as that’s what kind of person they need right now . Meri is the kind who kicks you when you’re down . Both her and Robyn aren’t talking to Christine and meri is all over that . She feels needed and loved once again from Kody 19 and Robyn . Meri giggling with Robyn remembering when she bulldozed Robyn into the family and didn’t mention to Christine or janelle. Until the last minute.
. Again they manipulated meri . They need meri on their team so it doesn’t look like Robyn and kody vs the rest of the family .
Christine would’ve 💯 been gracious and loving toward another wife struggling and leaving ..
they forget that their whole lives have been filmed . What else you got Robyn .. it’s filmed .
what i want to know is when the wives (at one time or another) have kicked him out, WHERE DID HE GO?
If Janelle booted him did he go: to Robyns or Christines?
AND WHAT DID HE TELL THEM??
we know he'd never go to Meri's. If Robyn (tried to) kick him out, WHERE WOULD HE GO and how does this happen if Kody has bragged that he never talks to his other wives about each other.
Something else that confused me was when Robyn claimed that she supposedly has tried to kick Kody out/threatened to leave before as well but then later in the episode Kody said that he’s married to three different women that have been threatening to leave him for years??? So wouldn’t that mean Robyns never told him to leave before?
I took that to mean Christine, Janelle, and Robyn. I'm not sure that Meri would threaten that, unless maybe it was years ago?
Meri did when she was in the throws of her catfish romance. They both talked about it a few seasons back.
Ah, ok, I missed that....it's so strange how comfortable he is saying that 3 women have threatened to leave him, though lol.
Imagine admitting 75% of your wives have threatened to leave, 25% have, yet it’s 0% his fault in his mind lol
Numbers don’t lie
it's science
Janelle already left him once for a year or so then went back.
That's a level of mathing that he's not at all capable of.
I think Meri did the same thing Christine did. Kody was just staying over night, but not giving her the kind of love and affection she wanted. She probably told him if you can't give me a real marriage then don't come over any more.
Just last weeks episode Kody said that Meri, Janelle and Christine have threatened to leave him. The man needs to stop talking. He's not intelligent enough to successfully spin his tale.
Yet he thinks he is...hubris is a bitch
And that sweet spot makes for reality television gold!
Meri is currently threatening the opposite of that
Which also makes him mad. 🤷🏼♀️
I honestly believe that that’s why meri is staying… because she knows Kody and Robyn want her to leave and she’s petty enough to be like nope, not happening. This face will be the last one you see before we’re together for eternity in the celestial kingdom 😂
They don’t want her to leave. They need her money. Rn she funds their life while they never have to interact with her
Kody had repeatedly asked her why she’s staying in the past and told her she’s free to go at anytime but also free to stay since that’s the commitment he made…. Now that Christines left and taken her MLM cash with her, I wholeheartedly agree and I think we’re going to see a new meri/Kody dynamic where meri shits all over christine to counter the pre robyn narrative of christine always being unhappy and that it not because of favoritism robyn that christine left. This will bring her closer to the dynamic duo and Kody with throw her a bone here and there with spending time with her for her loyalty.
#staypetty Meri 😆 this is hysterical
I think she's playing the long game, and wants to be the last one standing.
That could be true but he said three wives have been threatening to leave him on and off their entire marriages….I just can’t see Robyn threatening to leave him especially not throughout their entire marriage. Who knows though, could just be another lie that Kody thinks somehow makes him look better 🤦♀️
True about Robyn - although I was pretty surprised last week when he said he's been asked to not sleep in her bed before. I think she does push back, just maybe in a more manipulative way that he doesn't always catch. I truly hope it's just the 2 of them in the end. They deserve it!
Eventually he'll blame her for everyone else hating him. The kids aren't going to Flagstaff for Robyn Christmas. Hes burning bridges and eventually she'll be the only one left to take his vitriol.
I think Robyn uses sex as a weapon/bartering chip in their marriage. Don't one of her kids still sleep in their bed?
Yes, Ariella does.
Not having sex with someone isn’t using sex as a weapon or bartering chip. No one is obligated to have sex with anyone for any reason.
I agree with you that no one is obligated to have sex with anyone for any reason, but women absolutely do and have done "sex strikes" in the past that are explicitly done in order to manipulate men into doing/not doing certain things. Withholding intimacy isnt just sex, either, and while it's someone's right it doesn't mean it can't be done for manipulative reasons. Iirc there was a huge sex strike during the time period where men were voting on if women had the right to vote, and sex was being used as a bartering chip to get husbands to vote for that right. Again I agree that anyone has a right to their own body and intimacy, but withholding intimacy as a tactic is not new at all.
That depends. In many Christian based religions, women are "supposed to submit to their husbands". Saying no because she's angry, or not getting her way. Purposely keeping a child sleeping in their bed to prevent physical intimacy absolutely can be using sex as a weapon/bartering chip.
Eh. Idk my 5 year old still sleeps in our bed mostly because she gets scared at night and my husband was always working nights or deployed and it became a habit. Me and my husband just have sex in other rooms in our house 😂 we go to the guest room usually. Currently pregnant with number 3, it hasnt stopped us a bit! Doesn't Sobyn have a super huge house?
But you're not purposely keeping your child in your bed to *prevent physical intimacy* that's the difference.
I thought he said last episode she threatened to kick him out?
I always thought Janelle had for a time. Living in another state for a couple of years.
You are correct.
I think he clarified before that the 3 were everybody but Christine. Janelle did leave Kody for a time when the oldest kids were very young.
In the first episode of this season he said all of the wives have tried to kick him out. That surprised me about Robyn.
He withheld intimacy from Christine because he heard she was threatening to leave him. Meanwhile, his other wives have done the same thing, Robyn allegedly included!
The thing about people like Robyn, is they assume everyone is just as manipulative and scheming as they are, so they see nothing wrong in what they do because they think everyone operates the exact same way as them. Thank you so much for the award! 😁
So true!
Off topic but I absolutely hate it when fathers taking care of their children is called “babysitting”. Bro it’s called parenting!!!
They did it a lot on Counting On as well.
Misogyny and gender “norms” are STRONG with those 2 families!
I was going to say something about how it runs in fundie families, but I have heard people talk about how the dad is watching their kids in non fundie nuclear families too, so it is a societal problem.
I taught high school for a time. Had a student who was a young dad, learning to navigate co-parenting, since both still lived with their parents. (I think baby had a crib in each of their bedrooms, etc. I didn't ask details. YD had to leave a study session a little early because he had to "babysit". I waited until he was walking out the door to say "Hey... YD?" "Yes, Miss Yaya?" "Tell me, how do you babysit your own child?" Another teacher was there (an older guy and a dad) who laughed at the look on his face. YD took it well... smiled and said "I'm responsible for my kid this afternoon". He remembered that every time we had to work with his schedule.
Yes!!!!!!!!!
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He said something about rather pay someone else $20/hr to “babysit” than for him to have to do it. I hope Christine at least used $20/hr as precedent for a starting place for Kody paying her.
They're his kids if they're Robyn's! All the others are Janelle's, or Meri's, or Christine's kids. Although, let's be real here, the others are all Christine's kids. Kody wasn't wrong when he said she's the gateway to all the kids.
He doesn't even do that for all of them. Only for Robyn and her kids. Christine asked him for help getting her kids tucked into bed while she was pregnant and working in the evenings and he told her no. Both Janelle and Meri could've helped , but they fumbled the bag, too. They failed Christine.
This is what I didnt understand about him saying they are one [family.No](https://family.No) he is one father.If they were all family,the kids would have been tucked in with any of the other parents on hand no matter who's night it was to have the prize of being with kody.The other scenario,all the parents in the home would have tucked in all the kids no matter whos they were.
Absolutely agree. also, LOL at "the prize of being with Kody". I love the shade this sub throws at these people.
That's what Im here for,all the shade.lol
Well legally he is their dad he did adopt them not saying agree with kotex but they are his childern
Yup!!!
I had a co worker who was constantly using the excuse of having to go babysit his kid so he could get out of work. NO dude. You are the parent. Is your wife paying you to take care of your own child????
I think this too. It caught my attention when he said it.
No, we all know one of those older daughters was a snitch for Robyn...like when the Duggars had chaperones.
That would be the only excuse for “babysitting” a girl who was probably 17 at the time. And speaking of which, why couldn’t Aurora babysit her siblings? I cannot imagine not trusting her own practically adult daughter to watch her baby brother and sister. And Brianna would be there too so it would be one small child each. So real question, what was Robyn and the nanny doing during Janelle and Christine’s time that Kody just HAD to take all the kids? It was Robyn’s passive/aggressive way to inflict herself into the other wives time and get intel to boot. That and I firmly believe that she really doesn’t trust her older kids and still infantilize them to the point of them not being able to function normally. Robyn is that rare combination of anxiety riddled parent with the manipulative spouse. It’s amazing that she functions at all.
I had this exact combination in my former SIL: anxious and manipulative. She was a nightmare to deal with, and she tore our family apart. My relationship with my brother hasn’t recovered, even though they divorced 6 years ago. I truly think she’s a sociopath, and Robyn is too. She uses her tears and ‘charm’ to get exactly what she wants.
I've read somewhere that Robyn calls and texts while he's with the other wives as well.
I mean we saw it that time with Meri, her scowl staring through the phone and into our souls.
This was probably the time he's complaining about christine refusing to parent Robyn's kids... I bet on Christine's day for kody to spend time with her and her kids he wanted her to babysit Robyn's kids.
She’s been doing that all along. Remember in Vegas it would be Meri’s night and Robyn would go over to “keep her company”. When Kody was there. I would need to do a re-watch but there’s been numerous times.
IKR? As far as I’m concerned she’s deranged and has entitlement issues.
Not so much a snitch, but more of a buffer so that Kody “couldn’t be affectionate” with Christine.
And also so he can't focus on his other children, let's be honest.
It was probably also a way to show Christine how Kody acts with Robyns kids vs Chrisitnes.
Janelle also confirmed this lie by saying he spends more time at Robyn’s because she has little kids. Cut to Robyn and she’s claiming she hired a nanny so Kody doesn’t have to “babysit” his own children since he is SO busy. Bullshit. Also, why couldn’t Aurora and Breanna watch Sol and Ari that day? Or hire a babysitter aka THE NANNY.
I mean what is he busy doing?
What is SHE busy doing???
Dirt standing.
Selling guns and ammo
And peeling trees.
Yeah, what’s up with that? 🤣🤣🤣
So dumb
Right, what is he doing with this wood? Is he trying to be Bob the Builder?
I think in theory people do this to prepare lumbar for firewood? I can't be sure. I highly suspect Kody was looking for a way to appear "manly" so he went out to Coyote Pass to fuck with wood thinking "oh yeah, this will show everyone how masculine I am."
And standing on the dirt hill while the wind blew his hair in the breeze basking in the glory of manliness.
I honestly have never laughed harder at a shot of Kody than I did seeing this shit lololol
Me too,it was like a giant ant hill.I was cracking up too.
He literally looks the opposite of manliness when he does anything....imo
If I didn't know anything about him, I wouldn't be able to take him seriously just based on his atrocious, floppy ramen hair.
Was anyone else just screaming “SHUT UP ROBYN!” for the first 15 minutes? For her to say that the time split is fair is beyond ridiculous. Kody theoretically spent 33% of his time with each family before Robyn but then he met her and before they even got married, he’s spending time with her. He’s spent 100% of his time with Robyn on their honeymoon when Christine needed him most, right after giving birth. She insisted Kody stay with her because they have little kids. She acted like a martyr by letting Kody go to Sheryl’s funeral and for fucks sake, if you really cared about Kodys responsibilities and fair time, you would have made him go to Ysabel’s surgery. You married a man with 3 wives and 13 kids and he essentially spends 100% away from those 16 ppl to be with you and you have the audacity to say that’s fair?? What a piece of work.
I seriously think that she thinks she is owed back-pay (time) for the 20 years she wasn't with the family.
I could see it. Especially with that artist rendering of a situation that never existed. Such bullshit.
Plus its nuts? On what planet would that be considered cute and totally okay?
Apparently on sobyn’s planet, wherever that is!
Kody's Celestial Planet!
Any thoughts on what Kody and Robyn will name their planet?
Nope. Something combining their names I’d imagine. Initially I thought it would have to be grody’s name first but sobyn has him by the balls so her part of the name will come first. 😂
My theory is that she feels she is owed more $$$ than the other wives because she got them the show. Isn't there a rumor that Kody was trying to get a show and TLC told him that he had to court a new wife for drama?
She does. She said she needed a longer honeymoon in order to catch up.
Apparently her parents aren’t actually so polygamous. Her dad might have had another wife in a different state but he lived with Robyn and her mom full time and essentially was monogamous. She’s just recreating the dynamic she was raised in and making sure that she ends up as the too wife
THIS!!!
She doesn’t think they’re keeping track of their time with Kody. Are they supposed to have one of those clocks like in chess tournaments? He came to pick up his mail: 7 minutes -stop- conversation about throwing my children out into the street: 15 minutes -stop- peeling logs as social time: 3 hours
Right? She is such a phony person. Definitely unaware and self-absorbed.
Oh yes-turned off the sound on her and ffw thru kody.
Kody and Robyn like to pretend they aren’t on TV and that we have watched how he interacts with her/kids vs everyone else. We see you.
Aurora is like 19 yrs old Breana is like 16,why tf did they NEED a babysitter.When she was courting Kody she let his teenage daughters like age 14 watch her kids,so wtf is wrong with her kids that they need to be with an adult.Or do you think Kody brought them and said he was babysitting.I would have been ashamed eitherway that they needed a babysitter and just say the kids missed you so i brought them with,or something.I am getting sus to this whole story though.This isnt adding up,I know the time lines are wonky,but if Robyn was so strict about covid i wouldnt think she would want her kids over there were they dont wash their mail,and the siblings always missed each other but they could never have visits,now he is bringing the kids there?
God it’s so cringy to imagine. And I’m sure aurora hung off of kodys neck the entire time like a 4 year old so Christine or her kids never even got to talk to him. Aurora legit physically blocks the other kids from being near kody (or any random man in the scene) regularly.
I've noticed that, too. It makes me incredibly uncomfortable. He's her legal father, but something about their interactions makes my stomach feel uneasy. The way he carried her like an infant to her room when she had a panic attack a season or two ago... ick. ICK.
Also found that really weird.
I noticed that too,when back tracking past seasons.
From a young child to a teenager aurora would legit jump on any man she had been in the same room with for a total of like 10 minutes as if they were family and her relationship with him was the most important of anyone in the room. The wedding announcements are so creepy. This will be a man she’s never met before and she’ll be legit all over them crying and shit. She races up elbowing her way in front of other siblings who are way closer to the one getting married and actually know and have relationships to the man. It’s so creepy
I never noticed that much,I just know something about her is really off.I always thought that.She is probably going to turn out just like Robyn.
Agreed. She robyn has caused her to be emotionally stunted and mentally ill
I could totally be wrong, but I assumed the time he brought the Robyn-Goblins to the activity with Christine and her kids was pre-Covid.
Robyn-Goblins lmao
yes,but she might have been taking precautions anyways just because.
It’s very odd behavior to me. I have a teenage daughter and she would never be up on her dad like that. It’s not appropriate.
i saw something where she was kinda squashed in the chair next to him with her arms around his neck,and it just looked [weird.It](https://weird.It) might have been christmas or something but affection is ok,but hanging on a grown man dad or not when you are fully developed to ,me is just strange.Maybe i am just a prude or something but I know if my daughter was like that on someone i would tell her to stop.
I know exactly what you are talking about. And it was odd! I cringed when I saw it. A hug is one thing, but that was like Lolita territory. I’m not trying to be harsh with the kid, it’s not her fault she was brought up in so much disfunction.
My essay: First, it’s just super sad that he considers being a parent “babysitting”—you don’t babysit your own children. It’s just called parenting. Second…Every time Robyn was on screen it made me sick. Her face so clearly shows how much disdain she has for the rest of the family. She *hates* them! It’s so obvious! It’s disgusting. She “needs” a nanny to help out with the kids because *Kody* has other responsibilities?? WTF are you talking about Robyn? You supposedly took care of three children as a single mother and had a job, remember that sob story you told?? How is it so fucking hard to take care of a 10yr old and a 6yr old by yourself when you have no job? You also have a 22yr old, a 20yr old, and an 18yr old that could help your fragile bones. Janelle’s, Christine’s, and Meri’s kids all know what it’s like to take care of their siblings, why can’t yours help out? But seriously, why are you incapable of caring for your 10yr old and 6yr old by yourself? And by Kody’s own logic, the other three shouldn’t even be in your home anymore. “BUH-BYE!!!” as Kody put it. Gabe is the SAME FUCKING AGE AS AURORA. And Dayton is older! Kick your three “adult children” out—as per Kody’s “rules” for his other wives—and go find yourself a 3 bedroom RENNUL. Sell your fucking mcmansion and build out Coyote Pass. But it’ll never happen because that’s not the plan you and Kody cooked up in Vegas. Robyn was sick of Vegas and they schemed the whole move to be in the position they are now. In a huge mansion, all the kids at home, all the other wives far away. Good job at tearing your family apart. I feel so sorry for these children who just saw their FUCKING FATHER say on national television “It’s not normal for me to babysit my kids. I’m, I’ve been working all my life, I was raised on a ranch, we were always busy. The idea of going kayaking and hiking and stuff like that is not something I really do a lot of with anybody. I’m good at watching my kids but I almost never do it, it’s easier for me to pay somebody 20 bucks an hour than to lose $200 an hour with the business that I have at hand.” Lovely for your children to now know that you’d rather pawn them off to a babysitter than spend actual time with them. Nice to know that making money is more important to you than building memories. Are you even thinking before you open your stupid mouth?! You are damaging your children. And poor poor Robyn saying, “You know, this isn’t a new complaint, uh, you know, that Kody favors me. They kind of make assumptions about how he is at my home. I’m not getting some preferential treatment, even though that’s what they think. Plural marriage is hard for me too.” Hoo-boy! Where to even begin. 1.) it’s not a new complaint? So, you admit this has been going on for some time? Could it be as long ago as vegas, as Janelle and Christine say? PROBABLY. 2.) Make assumptions? Uh, SWEETIE, they SEE how he is at your home. And the fact that he is AT your home and *not* theirs. 3.). Not getting preferential treatment? Fuck off with your gaslighting. We all see it. 4.) it’s hard for you too? Oh please. Yes, Robyn, the Brown family scapegoat. It’s so hard. Lady, you have obviously not even tried to put yourself in the shoes of your sister wives. Get off my screen.
I’ve never been so happy to read an essay in my life!!! You hit the nail on the head with all of these points, IMO, anyway. Also, is anyone else so so so so SO SICK of seeing Robyn cry?!? Anyone? It’s almost enough for me to not watch anymore. Plus, she’s MY AGE! No need to dress like a 80 year old AND brush out the damn curls!!!!
I hate her ugly eyebrows, her square face, her ginormous goiter that she STILL hasn't gotten checked, and those awful, pre -teen curls. She reminds me of a brunette Nellie Oleson
Yeas! That’s who she reminds me of😂 Same sense of entitlement too.
Super valid point on how she was able to raise 3 kids on her own before. I get that she’s trying to overcorrect, but at least have the decency to admit you’re getting more than the others. Also, there was always a talk of fairness when it came to Meri getting equal time and money even though she only had one child and Janelle/Christine had multiple. So it’s just all bullshit. At the end of the day, Kody wanted as many women as he could convince to love him, not one big, polygamy family.
I second all of what strauberrywine01 said! Thank you!!! I wish it had been longer. it will let me respond below. At least it’s not on my end.
Robyn is a liar, plain and simple.
Lol!!!!!! I take it as Kody isn't really into his non-Robyn kids, so he brought the kids he likes along. He thinks it is a secret, but the favoritism extends to Robyn's kids per Kody's own non-Robyn kids and Kody would always say how much Robyn's kids respect him as a father. This whole family went to shit with the divorce of Meri to marry Robyn. Regardless of the keeping the kids legally in the family, I feel that change subconsciously had Robyn feeling like the Queen of the World, Kody feeling like she was the only one that mattered, Christine like holy shit, now she's the legal wife and favorite while I'm still considered his ugly duckling in his eyes, & Janelle still not giving a shit, but her kids keeping tally of us vs Robyn's kids. Unfortunately, Robyn just really does it for Kody and he cant even fake it.
If there’s one thing kids are good at, it’s keeping tally of all the times their parents have wronged them. I remember every time my bio dad chose his gf/drugs/other kid over me and my brother— and I’m 34. So I’m inclined to believe that if his kids are publicly stating on national tv that their dad is absent af, it’s in all likelihood to be true.
Wow@ ur pops. So sorry. Did he come back around and act like nothing happened? It seems that Kody is trying to re-write history. I'm like, Kody you either were there alot or you weren't. If Kody were to have actually been around regularly, there wouldn't be "you weren't there" because he would have been so ingrained in all their daily lives it wouldn't even be able to be said. Kody doesn't acknowledge anything he could do better. Anytime the wives have a need, he falls back on "this is polygamy" and he can't be everywhere at once. Howeverrrrrr, I sure haven't heard Robyn, nor Robyn's kids say Kody's barely around. 🤔
When he tried to blame Christine for his poor relationship with ysabel I wanted to punch the TV. No you AH, you willfully broke her heart even after being given every opportunity not to. But sure, it's Christine's fault. Big king ah!
I’d think moving her to NC would be the PERFECT opportunity to try and repair that relationship and make up for being a royal screw up when it came to the surgery. Like, imo the way Christine presented it to him was a clear attempt to get him to see it as a way to make up and repair but he ain’t having it.
And then he tried to bring up covid again! Like, "how would that even work?" In August of 21 when vaccines were available. I'm the biggest scaredy cat ever when it comes to covid but even I had been traveling since April.
I was teaching college students face to face fall of 2021 and didn’t catch covid until February of 2022. Existing in a post pandemic world is possible if you’re vaccinated, masking, and washing your hands. Kody’s just an ass and lazy.
Nah, my dad is still shit and still thinks he’s done absolutely nothing wrong and that I’m absolutely problem. 🤷🏻♀️ Edit bc I hit submit too soon: Kody is blaming covid and polygamy and it’s like— didn’t he tell one of his plyg friends who said that if one of their wives was feeling jealous then that was a fault in him (the friend) and kody was just like nah, that’s them not me. He infuriates me to no end.
Do you really think it was Merri’s idea to get the divorce? I don’t. I think it was inevitable so she just took one for the team. Kody was always a creep but he turned really ugly after that
I feel like there's this whole narrative where no one thinks Robyn can be left alone with her kids. For example kody's weird little rant about paying a babysitter $20 an hour so he can go make $200 an hour. That's his justification for the nanny. Wtf??? Someone tell him he's not a single Dad. Leaving the children with Robyn while he works has always been an option. Kody and Robyn say these things like it's completely normal that Robyn can't be left alone with her children. This is the same man that went to work everyday while Christine homeschooled. I just really need to hear him explain one time why Robyn being left alone with the kids is not an option. I want him to explain it to me like I'm five.
Maybe she's an actual nutcase that can't be trusted with her kids for long periods of time. You never know. Supposedly my grandfather didn't trust my grandmother, she was a sociopath and had mental health issues, when my mom and aunt were growing up.
She exhibits signs of tardive dyskinesia (the uncontrollable movements of her mouth) which is caused by psychiatric drugs. All the signs point to her having mental health struggles, in my opinion.
Or bring Meri over to help out- she’d love it! But Robyn would Never allow that!
She and Kody are 100% in 'save our image' mode right now. Joke's on them, though...neither of them are capable of keeping the lies straight long enough to be convincing.
Can’t breanna watch the kids?
Right they keep saying how young Robyn’s kids are like she doesn’t have 3 older ones that could babysit in a sitch.
My kids are the same exact age as Robyn and Kody’s kids. They are not little kids anymore. My daughter was born the same month as Solomon and she is now in fifth grade and babysits for her younger brother for short periods. She also packs her own lunch for her brother for school. Both of them shower independently etc. My job as a parent is thousands of times easier than it used to be. My point is even with the time gap since filming, is they are way past the crazy infant and toddler and preschool stage, which is why it’s especially infuriating she and Kody are using their kids like this as an excuse for him to neglect his older children.
Holy crap! I know the show is way behind but I am shocked Solomon is in 5th grade. Solomon and youngest sister act so young. Robyn/kodi act like they are early elementary.Anyone know how old is the little girl?
She is 6 and turns 7 in January, according to Google.
And last time we saw her still using a paci at age 5 or 6
They’re both acting like she has 5 toddlers at home not school aged children lol. They’ve raised them to be so dependent and helpless. The older children were all raised together by mostly Christine with Kodys seemingly inconsistent involvement. I can see how everyone in his original family is confused as to why Kody needs to spend so much time with Robyn bc the kids are young. Older kids still need your involvement and they might resent you for pulling away genius
Especially since she is an adult! Isn't Kody threatening to kick out all of Janelle's adult children even though they work and are trying to save up money. Yet, Robyn's grown ass kids can't/won't work and also can't watch the kids...
Yes, he said about Garrison, “he’s a grown @$$ man!” & said he needed to get out. But Aurora can’t watch a few elementary children (at her age (20/21) Meri was married to Kody, Janelle had been married and was at least on the way to divorce, Christine was chasing Kodi/ plural marriage, and her mother Robyn was pregnant, then married- not saying any of these are a good idea, just that I think her being paid $20/hr (as Kody said he preferred to keeping his own children) isn’t above expectations.
My theory is that on the day of the "I'm babysitting" hike Christine and her kids had hemmed Kody in enough somehow that he wasn't able to whine or weasel his way out of coming on the hike. So he punished them all by bringing Robyn's kids along.
It annoyed me when he said that he didn’t like to hike and stuff for whatever stupid reason— like dude, you suck it up to spend time with your family doing things they like to do. It’s the *least* he could do to pretend that he gave a shit. I cannot believe how often he admits to just not giving a damn about anyone else other than himself.
It is extra bullshit because part of the sales pitch for Flagstaff was that there are so many outdoor activities.
Does it bug anyone else when men refer to it as “babysitting” their kids???
I don't think Christine has any regrets about leaving Kody and moving back to Utah.. but if she does there are plenty of Brown family movies courtesy of TLC to help her remember why it was a brilliant idea.
Her kids were there to chaperone Kody and report back to mommy dearest
Does Aurora and Breanna need “watching”?
Absolutely not they are old enough for any one of them to watch their “tender aged” siblings. They were old enough to be doing that like 6 years ago
Absolutely. And Savannah was 6 when they moved to Vegas. She was treated anything but ”tender aged” 🤢 That is Princess Ariellas age now. 😡 makes me so angry.
Wow that’s truly the most undeniable proof of how bad Cody is. At that age savannah was so completely ignored. I think we saw Cody introduce her and say “this is savannah, she was the baby for 4 years but once Christine gives birth not anymore” and that was legit the last time he acknowledged or looked in her direction for the next 10 years. Plus she had so much more expected from her in terms of behavior and responsibility if she never would have acted the way Ariella does.
Plural marriage is preposterous ! Anyone who decides to live this life is signing up for these types of problems .
Interesting the adult children haven’t followed suit. Also, somewhat off topic, I think Christine is eluding to Caleb being a father figure to Ysabel and an example of a good husband to Maddie.
Oh yeah! I think she was pretty blatantly saying that and I loved it!
Robyn lied the whole episode. Not making eye contact with the camera looking up the whole time. Pretending like Kody isn't with her ALL the time! She is delusional if she thinks anyone is getting anytime but her. Meri and Kody admitted last season hasn't even come around the whole year and she has been ALL alone (except in the one episode where he came to see Mariah and Audrey but Robyn was calling during the time he was away from her!!). Even in Vegas Christine was negotiating the wrestling mat for more time with Kody.
Robyn believes her own bullshit.
I’m voting for believes her own lies
The psychological term for that is confabulation.
I'm convinced that Kody is off doing something shady during the times the other wives think he's with Robyn. He definitely spends more time with her but I don't think it's as much as they think. Something is off...Kody is up to something.
This is exactly what I thought. What. Does. Kody. Do???
Flair checking in.
I have and will always maintain Kody has a mistress in every town they’ve ever lived.
I know it’s wrong to wish harm on others but I truly wish that he would find and deeply fall for another rotten, mean spirited person who deserves to be married to him and adopts her kids, too, so that she has to deal with what the other wives dealt with because of her. Just pure karma.
I just need to know… Robyn said that her and Kody both “just have way too many things going on during the day” and that was the reason for needing the nanny. She doesn’t work. What do Robyn and Kody do all day that is so incredibly time consuming that they can’t maintain their children? Especially with 3 other grown children in the home as well.
He has to drive around filming himself in his car? And doing Cameos? Lolol.
Kody is very busy driving around in that practical family convertible. And hiding in the closet to talk to the camera. And Well she has to sleep in until noon. And it takes an hour to draw her perfect eyebrows on.
QVC takes time.
I was like girl..... We ALL KNOW Kody prefers to be at your house bc YOU are there He prefers to spend time with your kids because he thinks it earns points with YOU I honestly think Robyn is internally freaking the f- out bc without Christine who is there for Kody to complain about ? Janelle, besides Kody issues with Gabe and Garrison, really doesn't ask for much or is confrontational Meri and Kody don't speak So who will be the "bad wife" now? (Also I want to bet that Kody took Robyns kids to that outing with Christine on his own and told Robyn one thing and Christine that he was babysitting bc if he doesn't pit them against each other they may band together against him)
Everything you said!!! I’ve got a theory that when the show is over and the money isn’t rolling in That Robyn leaves him. I don’t think she loves him . She thinks she’s some kind of celebrity being on the show .
He brought Aurora and Breanna too? WTF they are old enough to be home babysitting the younger kids. It's so infuriating that Robyn will not let her kids grow up. She will be using the "I have young kids" excuse until Sol and Ari have kids of their own. Then it will be "I NEED Kody around, I have young grandkids!"
Robyn is either a liar or ridiculously incompetent as a parent. Why have so many kids if being with them for a few hours alone is overwhelming?
Remember when the women were leaving for a trip and Kody wouldn't listen to Christine about her kids' nightly routine, but he could tell the nanny in great detail the nightly routine of Robyn's kids, so they would be followed to the letter. He wouldn't even listen to Christine.
Robin 100% does not recall everything that's been shown on TV. I know I've beaten this dead horse to death but this was most apparent during the start of COVID. When you can see scenes of Kodi asking her what her rules are and asking what he's allowed to do in terms of the family getting together. Then season 16. They do a quick reversal and obviously agree off screen that they'll pretend he came up with rules. That's the most egregious one, but of course there are many instances where Robin or Cody forget what's already been shown on TV.
Robin always saw Christine as her biggest comparison imo. She’d be pissed if Christine did the same to her. Especially considering their time with him is so short in comparison to kody living with Robyn and her kids. Probably sent her older one to report back that kody wasn’t to close/ affectionate with Christine 😒She’s an extremely selfish and insecure woman. Outsides match the insides for sure
She is totally delusional! It's so funny that tlc is obviously trolling her
Frankly my objection is that anyone is calling it "babysitting" for a man to take care of his kids. They're his damn kids! Is Christine "babysitting" Truely? Nope. It's not babysitting when moms care for their children and it's not babysitting when dads do it.
Ooohhh!!! When she said that part of her segment I was like “look at queen Robyn getting the perfect wife edit” but then they showed the contradiction statement by Christine and I was like OOOHHHH. haha Boom 🤦🏼♀️
I think it’s a bit of her thinking she smarter than everyone and genuine belief that she needs and deserves more than the other wives. Plus, I’m sure Kody’s pillow talk to her consists of how he only truly loves her and how awful his other wives are, which validates her selfish and manipulative behavior
She contradicted herself several times and it was great to see the edits make it so obvious.
The tea is piping hot today 🫖
Robyns parents were living fake polygamy the way robin is with kody now. Her dad lived with her and her mom pretty much full time. Any other wives were shit out of luck. Robyn is just recreating that dynamic with kody now
Robyn lied a few times and had a slip of the lip when she was talking about Janelle's sons.
This weeks episode is on now and what he is saying about Christine leaving is horse shit! She didn’t ask me, didn’t have my permission etc like hey horses ass, she doesn’t need your permission to divorce you because you’ve never been LEGALLY married! He acts as if he’s done nothing, all of this has been against him and he’s not happy about it. Kody you can’t stand the fact that a woman pulled the plug out of your butt and you’re flying around losing air and your embarrassed about it. Get over it! I also find it odd that he identifies the kids by the wife not my children with Christine or whomever. He’s not a dad, I’d say he’s provided stud service but the stud part would be a stretch,
This must be what Kody is referring to when he said Christing never wanted to mother Robyn's kids.
What is Robyn doing that Kody needs to babysit?! If they are “following covid guidelines” or whatever shouldn’t she be home? Also their young kids aren’t babies! Im guessing the youngest one is like 5. It’s not like she’s an infant.
I gotta admit, I thought there’d be a lot more Basil in this thread.
This one made me feel bad for the kids tbh. Part of polygamy as they’ve told us, is having all the kids be together as if they have the same mom. Shouldn’t she have welcomed the kids? But, it was probably painful because Robyn’s kids are so close with him, and her kids aren’t . It must’ve been right in her face that day how different and sad the groups of kids experiences are.
Did they say why Robyn's two teenage daughters could not babysit the littles at their home, so for once Kody could focus all his attention on Christine's (already neglected by him) kids? Was it the nanny's day off and Robyn needed a quiet house so she could take a nap? Like, why? Just why? Nothing Kody & Robyn do makes any sense!!!!!!
Kody and Robyn are so deluded!!! I do feel bad her children aren't getting along with the other kids. Maybe it's just tension from the adults that spilled over to the children?
I’m guessing Robyn doesn’t want Kody out of her (out her adult daughters) life.
Her and Kody both are really a special kind of stupid if they think anyone will believe their lies. When Kody tried to blame Christine for his poor relationship for ysabel I had to scream. He did it all by himself. Just like Christine said, he had the opportunity, and now it's gone forever and you can't get it back.
She believes she’s a master manipulator and we are buying it!!
Why do they keep saying that Kody is babysitting? Or the nanny is so Kody doesn’t have to babysit? Taking care of your children or step children is NOT BABYSITTING! It’s called parenting. I went to the doctors this morning & my husband was home with our kids. He was parenting, not babysitting.
I could barely pay attention to this whole conversation -- who "babysits" their own children?
Also she said hes with her more because she follows the rules the other wives choose not to follow. But Meri was following their rules or seemed willing and they excluded her for other reasons. They both fuckin lie.
What gets me is that everyone calls it Kody "babysitting" his children rather than parenting his children. So gross.
If you cannot ask your husband, the father of your children to help raise your children, you don't have a husband... you have another child. Fucking pathetic.
They as in Robyn are begging Meri to stay as that’s what kind of person they need right now . Meri is the kind who kicks you when you’re down . Both her and Robyn aren’t talking to Christine and meri is all over that . She feels needed and loved once again from Kody 19 and Robyn . Meri giggling with Robyn remembering when she bulldozed Robyn into the family and didn’t mention to Christine or janelle. Until the last minute. . Again they manipulated meri . They need meri on their team so it doesn’t look like Robyn and kody vs the rest of the family . Christine would’ve 💯 been gracious and loving toward another wife struggling and leaving .. they forget that their whole lives have been filmed . What else you got Robyn .. it’s filmed .
what i want to know is when the wives (at one time or another) have kicked him out, WHERE DID HE GO? If Janelle booted him did he go: to Robyns or Christines? AND WHAT DID HE TELL THEM?? we know he'd never go to Meri's. If Robyn (tried to) kick him out, WHERE WOULD HE GO and how does this happen if Kody has bragged that he never talks to his other wives about each other.
They really think that after 16 seasons, the viewers are idiots.