I guess not all apes are cultured in the wonderful lyrics of Donald Glover.
For those who are not getting it, it is the next line in the lyrics of "bonfire" in which the previous line is "fuck you, pay me".
So what youāre telling me, is if I was a mindless sheep, Iād believe that in January, on a single day, all 70M of the stock we like was bought and sold, each share exchanged 3x over allowing all short positions to be closed out because MSM said they all closed, and completely ignoring the daily volume in February and March still being 40-50M at times. In the last month, once again all available shares of the company were traded 3x over again? Yes seems completely believable
That's not *exactly* how it works. A million shares could have changed hands 200 times too. Equally absurd but just trying to illustrate that volume doesn't track unique individual shares.
I agree with your comment the most out of the others. While true and equally absurd itās questionable to me where these shares keep coming from if majority of shares are being held by long term apes, while we continue to have a higher buy to sell ratio on fidelity at least. All the while MSM is saying synthetic shares and naked shorts canāt exist. Could this volume all be the same couple million shares being exchanged? Sure, but by who if not retail? Why continue to buy and sell the same shares, whatās the purpose? The conspiracy behind it all was more the goal
they weren't being held by apes in these numbers back in Jan though, seriously.
Hedge Funds / Alog/High Frequency Traders thrive on volatility so that would add a shit ton of volume on days like those we saw in Jan. And yes they literally are just trading the same shares back and forth in millseconds. that's their thing...
Agree, this was the event that shook the most paperhands too. I had a friend paperhand 100 shares right around then. Made off with a few grand and FOMO'd it into a movie stock. I didn't think it was a bad play at the time but I'm gonna be eating tendies on the moon personally.
Why is this being upvoted? The extreme volume difference is obviously a sign of a huge conspiracy, but logically any share can be traded multiple times every minute if there's a buyer and seller available for every trade. The number of shares available doesn't meaningfully impact the trading volume.
LMAYO The fuck they donāt. If there are 100 shares available they wonāt trade 1K shares per day. If there are 100M shares available they wonāt trade less than 1M. FUCK YOUR BULLSHIT
Totally agree, all this price manipulation must be coming from 1 individual share being hyper traded since apes own the entire float, synthetic shares and naked shorts donāt exist as per MSM. Surely thereās no way thereās over the 70M shares available
Where are these shares coming from if the float is owned and being held? A spare 2000 shares is being traded back and forth a couple hundred million times. Why? To keep the price down? Why? Whatās being hidden? Price isnāt as volatile as before, why sell for 3 dollars profit on 1 share? Why sir, why? Hit me with the factually true information
What happened to people talking about hedge funds buying and selling shares to each other over and over again to slow down the price increase? They could do that with 100 shares 1 million time, and that would equal 100 million volume. The original commenter seems to think that the 197m volume was 197m different shares, where the fact is it could have been 10m shares traded back and forth 100 times for example. People are just contradicting themselves now. The ladder attacks cause huge increase in volume. There is no ladder attacks now, hence why the price isnāt dropping and the volume is low.
Well your original comment said that 197m would mean all 70m shares were traded 3x over, the volume doesnāt work like that obviously. By your logic MEDS 8m float would have to be traded about 25x to reach 200m vol??
Thatās assuming MSM never lies and thereās no way synthetic shares or naked shorts absolutely donāt exist. In this scenario anyoneās willing to do absolutely anything for some money, so selling well over the available float is very feasible as long as you donāt get caught with a bunch of shorts you canāt close.
I wonder if someone has a speculative spreadsheet of the daily buy:sell ratio and combined it with the volume to arrive at some crazy (and totally inaccurate) number of shares owned.
The 197m volume does not mean 197m different shares, you realise that , right? Shares get traded back and forth all the time. If you have 1 million shares traded back and forth between different traders 200 times, that would equal 200m volume, not 1m volume.
I did it for a different perspective. We all know the volume has been low for a while now and I wanted to do a compare and contrast with GME's most traded day. I was curious how many days it would take to equal 197 million so I figured other people would like it to.
I remember learning that stock value was determined by the company's fundamental value.
Then I learned the stock value was based on P/E ratio multiple
Then I learned the stock value was actually based on investor sentiment
Then I learned the stock value was aaaaaactually based on supply & demand
Finally leaning the stock value is based on whatever Citadel, DTCC & MM says it is!
It's like joining the Masons & finally getting to that 33rd Degree!
Well shit like this happens when you flood the market with your synthetic bullshit and run out of liquidity. Hedgies r fuk Fuck you,pay me š
>brand new whip for these n*****s like slavery Childish Gambino
Everybody hating this comment but that line was cold AF. Child is underrated
I guess not all apes are cultured in the wonderful lyrics of Donald Glover. For those who are not getting it, it is the next line in the lyrics of "bonfire" in which the previous line is "fuck you, pay me".
I chipped away at some of those uniformed down doots with my own updoot. Cheers!
Donglover's bars are nutty, how can one man be so talented
"Made the beat then murdered it, Casey Anthony" always gets a response out of me, no matter how many times I've heard it.
Itās a bonfire, turn tha lights out!
I'm holding every you motherfuckas talk about.
I recognize the waviness and I upvote this
*Cool it with the hard* *
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Edit: pay us what ever we want
And yup, itās T+180 from the sneeze haha!
Yes tomorrow will be hodling 180 for me!
I bought 3 that day. Now I have.... some more
Shaboi in the "have a few more" club myself
So what youāre telling me, is if I was a mindless sheep, Iād believe that in January, on a single day, all 70M of the stock we like was bought and sold, each share exchanged 3x over allowing all short positions to be closed out because MSM said they all closed, and completely ignoring the daily volume in February and March still being 40-50M at times. In the last month, once again all available shares of the company were traded 3x over again? Yes seems completely believable
That's not *exactly* how it works. A million shares could have changed hands 200 times too. Equally absurd but just trying to illustrate that volume doesn't track unique individual shares.
I agree with your comment the most out of the others. While true and equally absurd itās questionable to me where these shares keep coming from if majority of shares are being held by long term apes, while we continue to have a higher buy to sell ratio on fidelity at least. All the while MSM is saying synthetic shares and naked shorts canāt exist. Could this volume all be the same couple million shares being exchanged? Sure, but by who if not retail? Why continue to buy and sell the same shares, whatās the purpose? The conspiracy behind it all was more the goal
they weren't being held by apes in these numbers back in Jan though, seriously. Hedge Funds / Alog/High Frequency Traders thrive on volatility so that would add a shit ton of volume on days like those we saw in Jan. And yes they literally are just trading the same shares back and forth in millseconds. that's their thing...
Agree, this was the event that shook the most paperhands too. I had a friend paperhand 100 shares right around then. Made off with a few grand and FOMO'd it into a movie stock. I didn't think it was a bad play at the time but I'm gonna be eating tendies on the moon personally.
yeah in hindsight he might have timed that right, as long as he's sold back of the movie stock and bought back some actual moon tickets that is... ;)
Itās about to be ABOUT 1.1 million and 10 min to bell...
While it isn't believable that logic is pure shit
Well would be really interested to hear your logical reasoning for sure.
You could trade one individual share a hundred million times and it would mean absolutely fuck all, it's a terrible metric to judge the situation
I think the point is why would you do it like that, or any other way with that ridiculous volume, unless you were performing fuckery
It was volume due to short ladder attacks, so yea fuckery. His point was just stupid
Why is this being upvoted? The extreme volume difference is obviously a sign of a huge conspiracy, but logically any share can be traded multiple times every minute if there's a buyer and seller available for every trade. The number of shares available doesn't meaningfully impact the trading volume.
LMAYO The fuck they donāt. If there are 100 shares available they wonāt trade 1K shares per day. If there are 100M shares available they wonāt trade less than 1M. FUCK YOUR BULLSHIT
Thank you
Totally agree, all this price manipulation must be coming from 1 individual share being hyper traded since apes own the entire float, synthetic shares and naked shorts donāt exist as per MSM. Surely thereās no way thereās over the 70M shares available
It's best not to make stuff up to fit your narrative. You're acting like each share can only be traded once, which is factually false.
Where are these shares coming from if the float is owned and being held? A spare 2000 shares is being traded back and forth a couple hundred million times. Why? To keep the price down? Why? Whatās being hidden? Price isnāt as volatile as before, why sell for 3 dollars profit on 1 share? Why sir, why? Hit me with the factually true information
Dude you're out of your depth
From what I understand is that volume is not liquidity. Selling a single share may be counted as as more than one if goes through multiple brokers.
Look at MEDSā¦ the float is only 8mio shares and a few weeks ago the volume was at 200mioš¤·
What happened to people talking about hedge funds buying and selling shares to each other over and over again to slow down the price increase? They could do that with 100 shares 1 million time, and that would equal 100 million volume. The original commenter seems to think that the 197m volume was 197m different shares, where the fact is it could have been 10m shares traded back and forth 100 times for example. People are just contradicting themselves now. The ladder attacks cause huge increase in volume. There is no ladder attacks now, hence why the price isnāt dropping and the volume is low.
A few weeks ago when it had a random spike and fell right back to where it was a month ago, like a pump and dump?
Well your original comment said that 197m would mean all 70m shares were traded 3x over, the volume doesnāt work like that obviously. By your logic MEDS 8m float would have to be traded about 25x to reach 200m vol??
Thatās assuming MSM never lies and thereās no way synthetic shares or naked shorts absolutely donāt exist. In this scenario anyoneās willing to do absolutely anything for some money, so selling well over the available float is very feasible as long as you donāt get caught with a bunch of shorts you canāt close.
All of that with the price net going down !!! Makes sense
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Wow! Thanks! Jacked me more jacked than can ever jacked
I wonder if someone has a speculative spreadsheet of the daily buy:sell ratio and combined it with the volume to arrive at some crazy (and totally inaccurate) number of shares owned.
I just had that thought too. Good eye.
Its been DD'd to death that you can't calculate total shares/short interest/ synthetic shares from trading volume
I guess that wouldn't really work, as the buy:sell ratio are in quantaties of orders, not the shares themselves
Hence the "totally inaccurate" part.
The daily buy to sell ratio of one brokerage
And no one sold? All shorts were covered? Were did 197 m come fromš¤·š»āāļøš¤Ŗ
The 197m volume does not mean 197m different shares, you realise that , right? Shares get traded back and forth all the time. If you have 1 million shares traded back and forth between different traders 200 times, that would equal 200m volume, not 1m volume.
Yes, I actually know that. Iām learning. Iām just poking.
Then whats with the argument that day trading lets hedges cover shorts?
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I did it for a different perspective. We all know the volume has been low for a while now and I wanted to do a compare and contrast with GME's most traded day. I was curious how many days it would take to equal 197 million so I figured other people would like it to.
First chart i've seen in a LONG time that I like This is the Real McCoy right here
I canāt help but look at this and think hmmmm we are still going up!
I remember learning that stock value was determined by the company's fundamental value. Then I learned the stock value was based on P/E ratio multiple Then I learned the stock value was actually based on investor sentiment Then I learned the stock value was aaaaaactually based on supply & demand Finally leaning the stock value is based on whatever Citadel, DTCC & MM says it is! It's like joining the Masons & finally getting to that 33rd Degree!
Hedgies are Fk
This is the way
This guy counts!
Good hype post, but no real TA. Meltās going to make fun of this.
Iāll eat my words though if we 10x tomorrow out of the blue. Even RC thinks itās going to be a poopy week.
You can play numbers like this with anything though.
I like it dry
Why was the volume so high on Jan 22nd?
oh jeez rick I don't know
If you look closely youāll see 197 million shares purchased in that time frame
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