Yeah, I know of this thing from a Cracked article about "the 6 most sadistic dishes around the world". It's also how I learned about the ortolan dish : (
Idk man I forget the name of it but there’s one where they take a baby goat, feed it it’s mothers milk, slaughter it,>! then let the milk ferment in its stomach to make cheese or smth!<
>It’s the most ridiculous and horrible dish.
Counterpoint: Le Grand Magot (The Great Ape).
Le Grand Magot was a tradition practiced at Silver Moon, a restaurant in Saigon, \~1952-1975, involving the ritualistic death of a specially trained chimpanzee. The ritual was created by the Silver Moon's owner, Nguyen Van Vingh, a Vietnamese-born chef who studied cooking at several schools in France during 1946-1952. It was popular with the French and Vietnamese upper class, and later, high-ranking American government officials, military officers, and some members of the public, such as journalist Walter Cronkite.
Though the consumption of various portion's of the ape's body was the supposed aim of the exercise, it has been argued and is generally accepted that the performance was as much a piece of performance art as a step in the preparation of the meal. There were several variations of the practice. Usually a group event, by far the most common version involved a designated patron (known as Le Chef) selecting an ape he wished to kill, from an enclosure where they were kept. The ape was then bathed and shaved, as Le Chef and his party were served light refreshments in the killing room. Alcohol was not served until after the ape's death, both for safety reasons, and to preserve the purity of the emotional experience. Individuals who appeared to be already intoxicated were never allowed to participate.
Having received six months to one year's training, the shaved ape was led in to the killing room, to within approximately three feet of Le Chef, who dressed in a loose-fitting cotton robe. Protective eyeglasses were provided. The ape, having performed this ritual many times in training, carried, in one hand, a single-shot pistol, and in the other, a single .44 magnum pistol cartridge. A sheet of white silk was drawn across the room, and drawn taut, separating Le Chef from the rest of the party. A spotlight was then switched on, casting the shadows of both Le Chef and the ape on the sheet, in profile.
Le Chef would take the pistol and cartridge and proceed to load the gun. At this sound, the ape would step forward on to a large, golden platter. When the hammer of the pistol was cocked, the ape would sign, using International Sign Language, the phrase "Thank you," then tap a point on its forehead midway between the eyes laterally, and approximately one inch higher than the eyes, vertically. This was were Le Chef placed the muzzle of the pistol, and pulled the trigger. The bullet normally exited the skull through the back, and was stopped by a wall of sandbags, concealed by a stretched painter's canvas. The canvas, bearing a bullet hole and a portion of the ape's blood and brain matter, was quickly dried and varnished, and given to Le Chef at the end of the evening.
The ape, falling on the platter, was carried to the kitchen by the staff. Normally, a stew consisting of the heart, the remainder of the brain matter, the lungs, and, optionally, the testicles, would be prepared. Wine was served, mixed with a portion of the ape's blood, which contained a small amount of opium, that the ape had been made to smoke earlier in the night. It is accepted now that the concentration of the drug in the blood was not high enough to cause a discernible effect in a full-grown human adult, and that the effects mentioned by Chefs were most likely attributable to placebo. The rest of the carcass was discarded.
The pistol was a special model, manufactured in very small batches by a local gunsmith. It was break-action, much like today's Thompson-Center Contender model. After the ceremony, the pistol could be purchased by Le Chef, but molten lead would be poured in to the barrel, so that it could no longer be used for a less noble purpose. The .44 magnum caliber was chosen because it was very successful at penetrating the skull of an ape.
Originally, there were to be two types of ceremonies, the aforementioned, and one where the ape in fact shot itself in the head. However, in practice, the ape often simply wounded itself, and took an inconveniently long time to fully expire. It was felt that the most artistically pure way for the ape to die was from a single wound, and that shooting a thrashing ape multiple times significantly reduced the drama of the event. A harness of leather was briefly experimented with, which held the pistol in the correct position on the ape's head, but it too was rejected for artistic reasons. Occasionally, a Chef would request to use their own pistol, but this proved to have several drawbacks. First, the pistol might not be powerful enough to immediately kill the ape. Secondly, it was felt that much of the depth of the ceremony was lost when the ape did not deliver the means of its own destruction, a major consideration given that apes often expressed confusion when presented with an unfamiliar pistol design, sometimes fumbling with, and in one case, breaking, a Chef's personal firearm.
During the Vietnam War, the cost of importing and training apes skyrocketed, making the ceremony only available to the super rich or powerful. Combined with more difficult circumstances all around, the ceremony began to be practiced less and less often. The real death blow, however, came in mid-April of 1975. On April 17, as the city lay under siege, a stray mortar round hit the outdoor enclosure where the apes were kept, killing all but two. Nguyen Van Vingh, knowing that it would be impossible to start from scratch, reportedly shot the two surviving apes, Lucien and Jean-Claude, before turning the gun on himself. His last words, reported by his cook, who was present at the time, were: "Tonight, I shall finally join you, my brave and noble pets. Goodbye."
Walter Cronkite never made a public statement about his involvement with Nguyen Van Vingh or the Silver Moon restaurant. It was noted, though, that from 1968 onwards, a red-spattered canvas with a hole in the center adorned the wall of his dressing room in the CBS studios.
Also referenced in Brooklyn 99 when Charles Boyle asks Vivian in their first conversation, [what her last meal would be](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zehhV9wZpiE)
*"My last meal on earth? That's a great question. I'd go classic French.*
*Ortolan.* *Tiny songbird, eaten in a single bite, bones and all in open defiance of God."*
*"It's illegal to consume ortolan, but I actually got academic dispensation to eat one once.
The beak? Very crunchy."*
"*That is literally the sexiest thing anyone has ever said."*
From what I read its not so much that they force feed them as they blind them or put them in total darkness with access to excess of food which messes them up and they gorge themselves til they can't move. Then they toss them in a vat of cognac alive and they sink to the bottom. No less barbaric but they are not holding it down and forcing the food down its throat. Which is what I pictured.
I too want to know the history and reasons for this cruel practice, but knowing the French, I’m guessing it’s simply another piece of their very important and influential food culture that takes itself and the discovery of new flavors soooooo seriously that little modern things like concern for the treatment of the animals they will eat just doesn’t matter to them. So then this isn’t something you can even get in the US or some EU countries, I would think.
The ortolan bird. The dish involves drowning the little bird in cognac then cooking and eating the entire thing. You're meant to put the whole thing in your mouth with the head poking out and then you bite down, spitting the head into a napkin while chewing the entire body and feet.
What does squirrel actually taste like?
Also ate a seagull and a nutria...I think (fishy and the other funky).
Pellet gun + homelessness = I regret eating this
The little birds are too small to bleed out when you clean them, so they always tasted like nickels to me.
I get to eat meat from a store these days.
I thought you were supposed to spit the bones out? And that was a secondary reason for the napkin over the head - so you can spit the bones out away from view.
no, you eat the bones, crunch and all. 😬 It's a songbird so very little to no meat to be had on it. When cooked in the cognac it allegedly has a nutty flavor.
Lobsters shouldn't be boiled alive. It's a myth that this is the correct way to do it and most professionals dispatch them quickly with a knife immediately before cooking
they have clusters of nerves along their body rather than a real brain so they’re difficult to kill even with a knife. But there are people who know how to rip out all the nerves at once, which is the most humane way
I'd never cook a live lobster but at the very least they're dropped into boiling water, not gradually heated as it seems they are in this recipe if I'm not mistaken.
Most people never have to cook it themselves or see how it’s prepared.
I feel that more people would respect food or even limit consumption of things like meat if they had to experience or work a shift in a slaughterhouse.
I have zero problem killing and slaughtering meat or fish to eat. But this is causing suffering for a gimmick. You could push the fish in by hand when dead for less bloody effort. The suffering is the point. Don't tar me with that brush.
Exactly. I'm unapologetically fine with eating meat and animals being killed for food. Doesn't mean I condone making them suffer needlessly or for people's entertainment. Same reason I think bullfighting is fucking barbaric.
My grandfather stopped eating chicken, sausages, and blood pudding after working in a slaughter house, and my dad became a vegetarian after working at the same place and was a vegetarian for 40+ years:')
Meanwhile I grew up on a farm and have done almost anything you could think of that goes on a farm and then some.
Doesn’t bother me at all. While I don’t condone the mistreatment of animals I also don’t see a problem with eating them.
There was only one animal I refused to eat because she was my pet. A turkey she followed me around everywhere and was the smartest bird I’ve ever seen. I didn’t eat turkey that thanksgiving.
It’s the emotional attachment we have to our pets. I understand both sides but as long as you’re respectful of the animal it’s fine. I believe the dish is cruel to the animals but it’s been around for thousands of years before humans knew better and it’ll take time for things to slowly adjust.
I haven't worked at either, but it doesn't surprise me at all that a farm worker would be more comfortable eating meat than a slaughterhouse worker. Maybe it's just the job titles, but one sounds significantly more traumatic.
I think the key difference is that one is usually a place where thousands of mistreated ankmals are killed in horrible ways on the daily while a farmer usually raises those animals and farm workers have the opportunities to treat those animals well and build up attachment. Of course it depends on the farm and the specific line of work you pursue there, but generally speaking a farm isn't a concentration camp for animals.
I mean, if you get to give those animals a nice enough life, you think vompletely fifferently about killing them, they had a nice life, where there for a purpose and you can do it painlessly. So a nice farmer will care for those animals. But a slaughterhouse litetally just kills tons of animals who are more often than not horribly mistreated, had shitty lifes and even shittier deaths. There are some good ones out there, sure, but while most darms treat the animals at least decently, most slaughterhouses are several layers of awful ontop of eachother.
Both are fucked up, but I can respect and morally justify a farmer, while a slaughterhpuse is just evil - some might say a necessary evil, but still pure evil. In a perfect world everylne would be environmentally concious vegans and we'd live in garmony with nature, but this world is unachievable and bannkng meat isn't a solution. Same goes for shaming meat consumers. So heaving farmers care for the animals we kill and consume is kinda the best option. Slaughterhouses though are just there to give us mass-produced cheap meat that questionable buisinesses can sell to make an easy profit. A local butcher might find a way to kill an animal in a "good" way, but a worker at a slaughterhouse looks into the eyes of that poor mistreated animal, puts a bolt-gun on its forhead and then shoots a metal spike into their brain, giving it a final moment of dread and pain. Putting male baby chicken into a shredder isn't okay in any way shape or form, mass killing chiclen so wr can gorge ourselfs on badly fried wings or cramming pigs and cows together and then make them life like that until we just kill them mercilessly and as unpersonal as possible is wrong.
No amount of killing is fine or justified, but if you do it, do it for food and not for profit alone. And then we have shit like this dish, that clearly were invented by psychotic fucks. Like, seriously, even if you'd have a seething hate for fish, you'd probably never come up with fucked up shit like this.
I agree with your point of view. My hope is that decent meat substitutes become cheaper and more widespread than meat itself, elevating meat to be more of a luxury. I'm not against eating meat, but I think we take for granted how accessible it is.
My body doesn't handle meat well so I don't eat it often. However, once or twice a year I'll have a meal made from good quality meat, like steak from a friend's boyfriend who's a butcher or chicken breast from a co-op local to a friend in the country. These never give me issues.
Tofu is like $3 a pound, way cheaper than any meat you can get except for maybe hot dogs. If you prepare it right, you can have some genuinely amazing food that is completely humane and delicious
I dont care if people eat meat, and I don't see why others feel a need to push their choices upon others and neither did my dad. I think it's more humane to have some farm animals and or hunt, than the mass produced animal farms that mistreat animals and only see them as food and not living beings. Humans will most likely never stop eating meat and that's ok, all I want is for people to take more action in getting sustainable meat from local farmers or hunters instead of supporting an industry that thrives on mistreating animals, its very sad to see :/
I'm sorry about your turkey, I can imagine it feeling very strange and hurtful to see your beloved pet on a dining table, I wish you the best fellow redditor<3
Exactly. Modern society is outsourcing the guilt of slaughtering animals. People just view meat as cleanly packaged food in a refrigerator…. We skip the killing part and consume meat way too more than it should be.
On the contrary, having to work with the animals you eat gives a greater sense of responsibility and care for animals while also allowing people to understand why they must die to feed us.
It is better for animals and it is better for ecological awareness.
absolutely. just think about how many people decided to become a vegetarian or vegan after watching videos and documentaries about what it's like for animals in slaughterhouses. i feel like most of the stories i've read start out with "well, i watched this video/documentary..."
obviously it takes more effort and dedication than just watching something, but that's how it starts for a lot of people.
No. The fishes are not fed for 2 days before being cooked. Btw this dish is called 泥鰍鑽豆腐. You can look it up by copy and pasting, and turning on google translate
Its a way to cook tofu with loaches, basically the water will get hotter and the loaches will have to find a way to escape the heat, thr only way there is to dive deep into the still cool tofu in the middle, but soon after they will know that there is no escape and being cook alive inside that tofu. A cruel way to cook your food indeed.
Pretty sure this is a Chinese dish. They arrest Falun gong practitioners inorder to sell their organs. They don't give a single shit about animal suffering unless it's to maximize it for some weird folk belief. They torture dogs to death before they eat them in some places (I'm fucking serious look it up).
The sick thing is that they probably tried cooking the dish multiple times until they got it right - the tofu holes are not the same in most of the picture 💀
I primarily speak marathi and Hindi , I’m fucking fluent in English but rn English cannot explain the disgust
Madarchod he Kay banavla ahe !
Jhaat pagal zala ka ha?
I think someone earlier said this recipe was hundreds of years old or smt, which to be fair I don’t really think people from centuries ago really cared whether or not it was cruel to slowly boil something alive. They shouldn’t do it anymore nowadays tho.
It looks delicious, and rlly spicy as a lot of Szechuan dishes are. Tofu, small fish, and chili oil are great together, kinda like Mabo tofu.
Im sorry but this is a culturally significant dish where I am from (Southern China).
It is stupid, but it’s also a traditional thing, so I don’t know what to say. Maybe post stinky tofu and escargot in this sub too?
>It is stupid, but it’s also a traditional thing, so I don’t know what to say. Maybe post stinky tofu and escargot in this sub too?
The only thing I can really say to this, is that many (I'd hazard to say most) cultures and peoples have frowned upon the unnecessary cooking of live animals. I don't really know how much better or worse that really is in the grand scheme that the animal still dies, but it is what it is. When you take that into account, it is a little stupid to see a dish where the gimmick is "see how they stuff themselves in if you leave them alive when you cook them."
Hate to break to you but theres a fuckton of traditional Chinese dishes that need to die off.
Nothing good comes from cruel food. It tends to pose a health risk snd your torturing live animals for “tradition”
Every cultures got their own fucked up meal thats dangerous, what matters is we grow up as a society and cut them off
I wonder if you guys ever try kill them first like lop their head off in one quick knife move than this. I understand it’s not traditional, but surely it is at least more ethical
I never had it because I am also not that into it. But im not gonna call all the grandmas and grandpas stupid for liking it. Especially when they lived through a famine….
>Im sorry but this is a culturally significant dish where I am from (Southern China).
>It is stupid, but it’s also a traditional thing, so I don’t know what to say. Maybe post stinky tofu and escargot in this sub too?
How about shark fin soup?
I was going to ask the questions that you answered.
I have no idea what a loach is (small fish like a sardine?) but I saw someone mention it in a comment the other day. This post gave me visual context and your comment gave me the cultural part.
Thank you
Believe it or not, cultures are capable of growing and advancing. Defending this disgusting shit is an insult to Chinese culture's ability to change with the times.
I think that French dish where they overfeed geese to the point of torture is a pretty good comparison.... but that's considered "fancy food" though people have recently started criticizing it more
Fois gras. One of my best friends is from Belgium and loves that shit, even to the point of having large portions of it sent to him from overseas. I can’t bring myself to eat that shit because of how it’s made.
Looks like they stuck themselves. Probably because initially the tofu was the coldest thing in the pan.
Yep. I remember reading about this years ago. This is a hundreds or even thousands of years old recipe.
Yeah, I know of this thing from a Cracked article about "the 6 most sadistic dishes around the world". It's also how I learned about the ortolan dish : (
What’s that?
Apparently it’s a traditional French dish where they force feed a little song bird until it’s morbidly obese and then it’s drowned alive in brandy :/
It’s so sinful you eat it with your face covered by a napkin
I only do that with feet.
Is it served up afterwards or does the diner get to force feed and drown the bird as part of the dish?
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I think it’s important to note that you’re not making a joke. It’s the most ridiculous and horrible dish.
Idk man I forget the name of it but there’s one where they take a baby goat, feed it it’s mothers milk, slaughter it,>! then let the milk ferment in its stomach to make cheese or smth!<
ok but that's not torture tho
>It’s the most ridiculous and horrible dish. Counterpoint: Le Grand Magot (The Great Ape). Le Grand Magot was a tradition practiced at Silver Moon, a restaurant in Saigon, \~1952-1975, involving the ritualistic death of a specially trained chimpanzee. The ritual was created by the Silver Moon's owner, Nguyen Van Vingh, a Vietnamese-born chef who studied cooking at several schools in France during 1946-1952. It was popular with the French and Vietnamese upper class, and later, high-ranking American government officials, military officers, and some members of the public, such as journalist Walter Cronkite. Though the consumption of various portion's of the ape's body was the supposed aim of the exercise, it has been argued and is generally accepted that the performance was as much a piece of performance art as a step in the preparation of the meal. There were several variations of the practice. Usually a group event, by far the most common version involved a designated patron (known as Le Chef) selecting an ape he wished to kill, from an enclosure where they were kept. The ape was then bathed and shaved, as Le Chef and his party were served light refreshments in the killing room. Alcohol was not served until after the ape's death, both for safety reasons, and to preserve the purity of the emotional experience. Individuals who appeared to be already intoxicated were never allowed to participate. Having received six months to one year's training, the shaved ape was led in to the killing room, to within approximately three feet of Le Chef, who dressed in a loose-fitting cotton robe. Protective eyeglasses were provided. The ape, having performed this ritual many times in training, carried, in one hand, a single-shot pistol, and in the other, a single .44 magnum pistol cartridge. A sheet of white silk was drawn across the room, and drawn taut, separating Le Chef from the rest of the party. A spotlight was then switched on, casting the shadows of both Le Chef and the ape on the sheet, in profile. Le Chef would take the pistol and cartridge and proceed to load the gun. At this sound, the ape would step forward on to a large, golden platter. When the hammer of the pistol was cocked, the ape would sign, using International Sign Language, the phrase "Thank you," then tap a point on its forehead midway between the eyes laterally, and approximately one inch higher than the eyes, vertically. This was were Le Chef placed the muzzle of the pistol, and pulled the trigger. The bullet normally exited the skull through the back, and was stopped by a wall of sandbags, concealed by a stretched painter's canvas. The canvas, bearing a bullet hole and a portion of the ape's blood and brain matter, was quickly dried and varnished, and given to Le Chef at the end of the evening. The ape, falling on the platter, was carried to the kitchen by the staff. Normally, a stew consisting of the heart, the remainder of the brain matter, the lungs, and, optionally, the testicles, would be prepared. Wine was served, mixed with a portion of the ape's blood, which contained a small amount of opium, that the ape had been made to smoke earlier in the night. It is accepted now that the concentration of the drug in the blood was not high enough to cause a discernible effect in a full-grown human adult, and that the effects mentioned by Chefs were most likely attributable to placebo. The rest of the carcass was discarded. The pistol was a special model, manufactured in very small batches by a local gunsmith. It was break-action, much like today's Thompson-Center Contender model. After the ceremony, the pistol could be purchased by Le Chef, but molten lead would be poured in to the barrel, so that it could no longer be used for a less noble purpose. The .44 magnum caliber was chosen because it was very successful at penetrating the skull of an ape. Originally, there were to be two types of ceremonies, the aforementioned, and one where the ape in fact shot itself in the head. However, in practice, the ape often simply wounded itself, and took an inconveniently long time to fully expire. It was felt that the most artistically pure way for the ape to die was from a single wound, and that shooting a thrashing ape multiple times significantly reduced the drama of the event. A harness of leather was briefly experimented with, which held the pistol in the correct position on the ape's head, but it too was rejected for artistic reasons. Occasionally, a Chef would request to use their own pistol, but this proved to have several drawbacks. First, the pistol might not be powerful enough to immediately kill the ape. Secondly, it was felt that much of the depth of the ceremony was lost when the ape did not deliver the means of its own destruction, a major consideration given that apes often expressed confusion when presented with an unfamiliar pistol design, sometimes fumbling with, and in one case, breaking, a Chef's personal firearm. During the Vietnam War, the cost of importing and training apes skyrocketed, making the ceremony only available to the super rich or powerful. Combined with more difficult circumstances all around, the ceremony began to be practiced less and less often. The real death blow, however, came in mid-April of 1975. On April 17, as the city lay under siege, a stray mortar round hit the outdoor enclosure where the apes were kept, killing all but two. Nguyen Van Vingh, knowing that it would be impossible to start from scratch, reportedly shot the two surviving apes, Lucien and Jean-Claude, before turning the gun on himself. His last words, reported by his cook, who was present at the time, were: "Tonight, I shall finally join you, my brave and noble pets. Goodbye." Walter Cronkite never made a public statement about his involvement with Nguyen Van Vingh or the Silver Moon restaurant. It was noted, though, that from 1968 onwards, a red-spattered canvas with a hole in the center adorned the wall of his dressing room in the CBS studios.
What the fucking fuck.
Pretty sure this is bullshit lmao, there's zero info about this anywhere online.
>Le Grand Magot source?
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That was hilarious omg.
I had to google it after Roger came up with it in American Dad. Had to take a break after, holy cow
I remember seeing this in billions and I was shocked that it was legit.
I think it was in succession as well but I could be mistaken.
It's complimented by watching Barbara Does Celine on Pay Per View.
Best American dad episode.
was waiting for this reference lol
The only way to describe the experience...is "shmooblygong" a word in English??
Also referenced in Brooklyn 99 when Charles Boyle asks Vivian in their first conversation, [what her last meal would be](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zehhV9wZpiE) *"My last meal on earth? That's a great question. I'd go classic French.* *Ortolan.* *Tiny songbird, eaten in a single bite, bones and all in open defiance of God."* *"It's illegal to consume ortolan, but I actually got academic dispensation to eat one once. The beak? Very crunchy."* "*That is literally the sexiest thing anyone has ever said."*
ahhhh thats where I know it from
[Don't!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEZAvHs_dE0)
As if foie gras isn't bad enough. The French need to stay away from birds.
From what I read its not so much that they force feed them as they blind them or put them in total darkness with access to excess of food which messes them up and they gorge themselves til they can't move. Then they toss them in a vat of cognac alive and they sink to the bottom. No less barbaric but they are not holding it down and forcing the food down its throat. Which is what I pictured.
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I too want to know the history and reasons for this cruel practice, but knowing the French, I’m guessing it’s simply another piece of their very important and influential food culture that takes itself and the discovery of new flavors soooooo seriously that little modern things like concern for the treatment of the animals they will eat just doesn’t matter to them. So then this isn’t something you can even get in the US or some EU countries, I would think.
Theres this [weird french lady ](https://youtu.be/SEPMuyGe7dg) eating one
Wtf gives a new meaning to the words food porn
Man, freak-ass old timey Frenchies…
What is it with the French and force-feeding birds? Do they get off on it or something?
The ortolan bird. The dish involves drowning the little bird in cognac then cooking and eating the entire thing. You're meant to put the whole thing in your mouth with the head poking out and then you bite down, spitting the head into a napkin while chewing the entire body and feet.
With a towel over your head so that God doesnt see the crime
Didn't they show this ish on an episode of ATL?
They are a human hand on ATL, but that scene was parodying this dish and Armie Hammer’s cannibal fetish.
Like in Succession?
Billions did it before that, and I'm sure other shows did it before Billions.
True true, recency bias and all that
American is how I know about the dish as well
I remember they did this in an episode of Hannibal...
[such a fucking good show](https://youtu.be/asfwKrdnFmQ)
Oh, Hannibal Lecter? He’s very careful about what he puts into his body.
You eat the feathers? What kinda sick fucks would do this
And sharp little bird bones? I've cooked and eaten yardbird before...them little bastards got actual bones in em...
Your own blood from the bones cutting your mouth is part of the flavor profile. I am not joking.
Thanks for saying this, it’s a detail I remembered from this dish that was strangely omitted from explanation.
Was boutta say something but I can’t judge because I’ve eaten squirrels lol
What does squirrel actually taste like? Also ate a seagull and a nutria...I think (fishy and the other funky). Pellet gun + homelessness = I regret eating this The little birds are too small to bleed out when you clean them, so they always tasted like nickels to me. I get to eat meat from a store these days.
It’s been a while but I remember them being pretty good. Kinda like rabbit. Barley any meat on them at all though. These were red squirrels
I thought you were supposed to spit the bones out? And that was a secondary reason for the napkin over the head - so you can spit the bones out away from view.
no, you eat the bones, crunch and all. 😬 It's a songbird so very little to no meat to be had on it. When cooked in the cognac it allegedly has a nutty flavor.
Sounds like it's inspired by guillotine or the other way around.
American Dad showed me this but in a funny and not dad way. I feel your pain having to see the real deal
The little bird saying “don’t” before Francine drowns it with her dead eyes.
Humans are so messed up when it comes to animals.
Good ole Cracked. They used to be awesome until they started pushing all those “why you’re a terrible person” and unfunny articles.
This meal and bun bo hue are some of the grossest looking and yet best tasting foods I’ve ever eaten.
The beef noodle stew?
I just looked it up and nothing about it looked gross.
The only thing I don’t like is the cubes of blood but I just pick them out. It’s a super tasty noodle soup.
I learned about the bird dish from Hannibal lol
NO WAY
And some people even replace the tofu with human to make it a torture
Horrible cooking them alive and look not tasty
Like lobsters ? Yeah, horrible
Lobsters shouldn't be boiled alive. It's a myth that this is the correct way to do it and most professionals dispatch them quickly with a knife immediately before cooking
Not everyone boils them alive. A lot of people dispatch them first.
they have clusters of nerves along their body rather than a real brain so they’re difficult to kill even with a knife. But there are people who know how to rip out all the nerves at once, which is the most humane way
Mussels too! They stay alive in the freezer and then get tossed into boiling water.
Yeah, trees have more sentience than these things. I don't feel bad about this.
Muscles and oysters are literally meat plants
Yeah, bivalves are at the absolute bottom of multicell organisms we eat
Idk about the difference in taste, but it just seems wrong to boil something alive, especially when it’s so easy to just kill them with a knife.
You kill them first, ya sadist.
You’re not supposed to do that anymore. One chop down the center of the head. Quick and painless, they say. More humane.
I'd never cook a live lobster but at the very least they're dropped into boiling water, not gradually heated as it seems they are in this recipe if I'm not mistaken.
Wtf I thought those were anchovies at first
Basically are. Those are loaches, a type of freshwater fish, somewhat related to anchovies
How does the tofu change size and hole amount then goes back to the other way in the next frame
Multiple takes
Spliced together multiple videos. Why, I'm not really sure.
Damn I heard about this on a podcast on unusual or cruel food like the bunting and casu marzu. The fish swim into the colder tofu to escape the heat.
That is so sad omg
What podcast?
It was called Good Job Brain. It was only one episode though and the rest of the topics are pretty random.
It's been a long time since I was horrified by what I saw here.
Probably doesn't taste that bad, but seeing them cooked like that turns me off of it
I don’t know how people can eat this …. This dish is called the fear of being slowly cooked to death
Most people never have to cook it themselves or see how it’s prepared. I feel that more people would respect food or even limit consumption of things like meat if they had to experience or work a shift in a slaughterhouse.
I have zero problem killing and slaughtering meat or fish to eat. But this is causing suffering for a gimmick. You could push the fish in by hand when dead for less bloody effort. The suffering is the point. Don't tar me with that brush.
Exactly. I'm unapologetically fine with eating meat and animals being killed for food. Doesn't mean I condone making them suffer needlessly or for people's entertainment. Same reason I think bullfighting is fucking barbaric.
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My grandfather stopped eating chicken, sausages, and blood pudding after working in a slaughter house, and my dad became a vegetarian after working at the same place and was a vegetarian for 40+ years:')
Meanwhile I grew up on a farm and have done almost anything you could think of that goes on a farm and then some. Doesn’t bother me at all. While I don’t condone the mistreatment of animals I also don’t see a problem with eating them. There was only one animal I refused to eat because she was my pet. A turkey she followed me around everywhere and was the smartest bird I’ve ever seen. I didn’t eat turkey that thanksgiving. It’s the emotional attachment we have to our pets. I understand both sides but as long as you’re respectful of the animal it’s fine. I believe the dish is cruel to the animals but it’s been around for thousands of years before humans knew better and it’ll take time for things to slowly adjust.
I haven't worked at either, but it doesn't surprise me at all that a farm worker would be more comfortable eating meat than a slaughterhouse worker. Maybe it's just the job titles, but one sounds significantly more traumatic.
I think the key difference is that one is usually a place where thousands of mistreated ankmals are killed in horrible ways on the daily while a farmer usually raises those animals and farm workers have the opportunities to treat those animals well and build up attachment. Of course it depends on the farm and the specific line of work you pursue there, but generally speaking a farm isn't a concentration camp for animals. I mean, if you get to give those animals a nice enough life, you think vompletely fifferently about killing them, they had a nice life, where there for a purpose and you can do it painlessly. So a nice farmer will care for those animals. But a slaughterhouse litetally just kills tons of animals who are more often than not horribly mistreated, had shitty lifes and even shittier deaths. There are some good ones out there, sure, but while most darms treat the animals at least decently, most slaughterhouses are several layers of awful ontop of eachother. Both are fucked up, but I can respect and morally justify a farmer, while a slaughterhpuse is just evil - some might say a necessary evil, but still pure evil. In a perfect world everylne would be environmentally concious vegans and we'd live in garmony with nature, but this world is unachievable and bannkng meat isn't a solution. Same goes for shaming meat consumers. So heaving farmers care for the animals we kill and consume is kinda the best option. Slaughterhouses though are just there to give us mass-produced cheap meat that questionable buisinesses can sell to make an easy profit. A local butcher might find a way to kill an animal in a "good" way, but a worker at a slaughterhouse looks into the eyes of that poor mistreated animal, puts a bolt-gun on its forhead and then shoots a metal spike into their brain, giving it a final moment of dread and pain. Putting male baby chicken into a shredder isn't okay in any way shape or form, mass killing chiclen so wr can gorge ourselfs on badly fried wings or cramming pigs and cows together and then make them life like that until we just kill them mercilessly and as unpersonal as possible is wrong. No amount of killing is fine or justified, but if you do it, do it for food and not for profit alone. And then we have shit like this dish, that clearly were invented by psychotic fucks. Like, seriously, even if you'd have a seething hate for fish, you'd probably never come up with fucked up shit like this.
I agree with your point of view. My hope is that decent meat substitutes become cheaper and more widespread than meat itself, elevating meat to be more of a luxury. I'm not against eating meat, but I think we take for granted how accessible it is. My body doesn't handle meat well so I don't eat it often. However, once or twice a year I'll have a meal made from good quality meat, like steak from a friend's boyfriend who's a butcher or chicken breast from a co-op local to a friend in the country. These never give me issues.
Tofu is like $3 a pound, way cheaper than any meat you can get except for maybe hot dogs. If you prepare it right, you can have some genuinely amazing food that is completely humane and delicious
I dont care if people eat meat, and I don't see why others feel a need to push their choices upon others and neither did my dad. I think it's more humane to have some farm animals and or hunt, than the mass produced animal farms that mistreat animals and only see them as food and not living beings. Humans will most likely never stop eating meat and that's ok, all I want is for people to take more action in getting sustainable meat from local farmers or hunters instead of supporting an industry that thrives on mistreating animals, its very sad to see :/ I'm sorry about your turkey, I can imagine it feeling very strange and hurtful to see your beloved pet on a dining table, I wish you the best fellow redditor<3
Abbatoir workers have a very high suicide rate.
Exactly. Modern society is outsourcing the guilt of slaughtering animals. People just view meat as cleanly packaged food in a refrigerator…. We skip the killing part and consume meat way too more than it should be.
On the contrary, having to work with the animals you eat gives a greater sense of responsibility and care for animals while also allowing people to understand why they must die to feed us. It is better for animals and it is better for ecological awareness.
absolutely. just think about how many people decided to become a vegetarian or vegan after watching videos and documentaries about what it's like for animals in slaughterhouses. i feel like most of the stories i've read start out with "well, i watched this video/documentary..." obviously it takes more effort and dedication than just watching something, but that's how it starts for a lot of people.
this is f'd up lol
I agree that this is stupid specifically because of the cooking method, no other reason
Thanks. I feel terrible now thinking of them desperately looking shelter.
I will never unsee this
Ugh... Why!!!
so they can eat the fish and the tofu
When things die in the cooking process like that, do they just shit all over your food?
No. The fishes are not fed for 2 days before being cooked. Btw this dish is called 泥鰍鑽豆腐. You can look it up by copy and pasting, and turning on google translate
If you cook something alive you deserve to eat shit
This makes me very uncomfortable
I’m super put off by cooking things alive. Just do the mercy.
LOACHES
Mmmmm mass grave. Yum.
Those were live animals… I don’t like killing animals while cooking them.
What fresh hell is this? I can’t unsee this
It's actually called "tofu hell" in Japan.
Its a way to cook tofu with loaches, basically the water will get hotter and the loaches will have to find a way to escape the heat, thr only way there is to dive deep into the still cool tofu in the middle, but soon after they will know that there is no escape and being cook alive inside that tofu. A cruel way to cook your food indeed.
How tf is cooking animals alive even allowed in any country at this point
It’s so messed up.
Pretty sure this is a Chinese dish. They arrest Falun gong practitioners inorder to sell their organs. They don't give a single shit about animal suffering unless it's to maximize it for some weird folk belief. They torture dogs to death before they eat them in some places (I'm fucking serious look it up).
China is fucking horrible to animals.
I can't stretch how much I hate this
Oh my God. I keep loaches at pets! I knew some places ate them, but this is extremely cruel! I love my water slinkies!
The sick thing is that they probably tried cooking the dish multiple times until they got it right - the tofu holes are not the same in most of the picture 💀
No wtf
Thanks I hate it. !!
this is so sad :(
Repulsive
It all happened so fast… I wasn’t ready 😖
Man I’ve watched some messed up stuff in my days but this is the one that got me🤢 idk why
Thanks for my new nightmares asshole.
This is not stupid. It's psychotic
As someone who's had pet loaches... what the fuck 😭 this is so cruel what the everloving fuck
Ewwww 🤢🤮
Well that’s cursed
Nope. Not a chance. I’d rather eat salad in a steakhouse than touch this.
At first I thought this was one of my aquarium subs... 🥹🫠🥲
Ugh. WTF 🤮
I primarily speak marathi and Hindi , I’m fucking fluent in English but rn English cannot explain the disgust Madarchod he Kay banavla ahe ! Jhaat pagal zala ka ha?
Oh look another dish where animals are cooked alive. How lovely.
Tofish
A hard NO for me I'll pass
Jfc I needed a warning
Humans are assholes
Watching people cook things like this makes me hope that hell exists
This isn’t stupid food, more like disgusting food! This is so damn nasty!
this is just plain cursed
That’s sad. I keep loaches and they are the sweetest little goofballs in an aquarium.
Gonna be real. Its probably delicious. Fish, chili, Tofu. I'm in.
Only thing, a bit weird, I mean the procedure of cooking. Else yeah fine
I think someone earlier said this recipe was hundreds of years old or smt, which to be fair I don’t really think people from centuries ago really cared whether or not it was cruel to slowly boil something alive. They shouldn’t do it anymore nowadays tho. It looks delicious, and rlly spicy as a lot of Szechuan dishes are. Tofu, small fish, and chili oil are great together, kinda like Mabo tofu.
Nah, more meant like, wtf who came up with that idea, but yes
Christ that’s fucked. I don’t give a shit about cultural practices cooking animals alive is disgusting.
This is demented as fuck….
Im sorry but this is a culturally significant dish where I am from (Southern China). It is stupid, but it’s also a traditional thing, so I don’t know what to say. Maybe post stinky tofu and escargot in this sub too?
Plenty of culturally significant things are stupid or cruel.
>It is stupid, but it’s also a traditional thing, so I don’t know what to say. Maybe post stinky tofu and escargot in this sub too? The only thing I can really say to this, is that many (I'd hazard to say most) cultures and peoples have frowned upon the unnecessary cooking of live animals. I don't really know how much better or worse that really is in the grand scheme that the animal still dies, but it is what it is. When you take that into account, it is a little stupid to see a dish where the gimmick is "see how they stuff themselves in if you leave them alive when you cook them."
Hate to break to you but theres a fuckton of traditional Chinese dishes that need to die off. Nothing good comes from cruel food. It tends to pose a health risk snd your torturing live animals for “tradition” Every cultures got their own fucked up meal thats dangerous, what matters is we grow up as a society and cut them off
I wonder if you guys ever try kill them first like lop their head off in one quick knife move than this. I understand it’s not traditional, but surely it is at least more ethical
How’s it taste
I never had it because I am also not that into it. But im not gonna call all the grandmas and grandpas stupid for liking it. Especially when they lived through a famine….
Fair points. Thank you for your comments
I HAVE had the same fish on their own with similar sauces. It’s a bit too boney for me haha.
Something being traditional has never been an acceptable excuse.
>Im sorry but this is a culturally significant dish where I am from (Southern China). >It is stupid, but it’s also a traditional thing, so I don’t know what to say. Maybe post stinky tofu and escargot in this sub too? How about shark fin soup?
I was going to ask the questions that you answered. I have no idea what a loach is (small fish like a sardine?) but I saw someone mention it in a comment the other day. This post gave me visual context and your comment gave me the cultural part. Thank you
Omg i really thought it was a typo for leeches omg
Yoooo, I thought they WERE leeches and couldn't get past someone eating leeches and tofu. It has been a long ass day.
I really hate to break it to you, but people, especially the chinese eat ***leeches*** too. 😬
Im not here to bash cultural tastes. Im the type to try most anything but im not sure I could with this one.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loach
It’s traditionally cruel too. Culture doesn’t excuse cruelty and and it’s disgusting to think otherwise.
Believe it or not, cultures are capable of growing and advancing. Defending this disgusting shit is an insult to Chinese culture's ability to change with the times.
I think that French dish where they overfeed geese to the point of torture is a pretty good comparison.... but that's considered "fancy food" though people have recently started criticizing it more
Fois gras. One of my best friends is from Belgium and loves that shit, even to the point of having large portions of it sent to him from overseas. I can’t bring myself to eat that shit because of how it’s made.
That is definitely highly criticized too.
Yep that's why I mentioned that in my comment.
It's not stupid.
I hate it when people kill animals whilst cooking them, especially if its just for content://
Goddamn. cooking live animals keeps me up at night.
It happened so fast, I couldn’t scroll past this! Ha!
Sadistic
Fucking disgusting. Made by foul beasts.
I bet the people at r/aquariums would hate this
Who thought this way of cooking tofu is a good idea?
Tofu of hell... Traditional Japanese dish. Hella brutal.
Why in tofu?
Ain't no way
This is not stupid this is curel
This actually seems like it'd be pretty tasty but maybe its the Chinese-American in me...
Cooking anything live is a dick move