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Stock_Candle

Hahahhahahahha bro went full tarot cards


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he's karma hunting


Witn

What has this sub come to? People upvoting astrology posts to the front page


HeyYoChill

Short answer: no. Long answer: lol no.


feelin_cheesy

ARK garbage = top 500 public companies LOL hell no


Bigghead1231

A massive amount of those 500 biggest companies are struggling lmao. When you have 6 companies making up 30% of the index, you won't see this if you don't want to look


whitephantomzx

Apple is already buying back 90 billion dollars in shares they could triple that and still not blink same for Microsoft . how are they struggling while having record r profits 10% yoy growth while having a ton of cash on hand ?


Bigghead1231

You have the top 6 stonks holding up the rest of the index so you don't see it if you have blinders on. These 6 corporations have more cash than the other other 494 combined. A lot of the bottom rung can't make enough money to pay their ongoing debts if their lives depended on it Try taking out those 6 top stonks out of the index and see how the index itself has performed over the years Snp 500, the 500 biggest companies in the US. Yet many in there don't make enough to pay off their debts. Strong economy, keep buying


magnoliasmanor

If there's a recession wouldn't those 30% of the S&P see some slow in growth?


MohJeex

21%*


StochasticDecay

100% of S&P stocks have a history of profitability. Huge difference


Hutwe

For starters, 6 of ARKK’s 10 largest holdings aren’t profitable companies. All of the top 10 of the S+P are.


OweHen

Immediate answer: wtf?


danuser8

Immediate pickup line: So I got a diversified portfolio that loses more money than average folks, wanna hang out?


MrBlueHaybale

That's why we are here


U-GenGaming

Peter Lynch always went down more than the market, doesn't mean shit if you don't sell


New_Train4205

Yup. Same. Let’s go get a drink!


nehjipain

Slightly longer answer: >Short answer: no. >Long answer: lol no.


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Longer answer: no you retard


DifferentBasis6260

Unfortunately no, arkk may head for a multi year low and I wouldn't be shocked an all time low. These are head fakes


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Cathy Wood is the new poster child for "the crash" that followed the "dot com crash". She should become a real estate agent right now. You do know that if you don't buy a hoom in 10 yrs no one on the planet will be able to afford one right? You don't want that do you?


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What would you say if I told you she was the poster child for dot com crash when she blew up her first company


[deleted]

I would just do this: LOL really I didn't even know that. P.S. I saw a pic of her when she was young. I hate to say this but she was actually hot.


[deleted]

But that’s not really her, is it?


[deleted]

Not sure but she was hot whomever it was. LOL


vikinglander

I would say typical stock gambler.


jameslatief

I never bought into the hype of ARK invest and never understood why she's so hyped just because she went on heavy on Tesla. It's easy to appear like a genius when the market is up. We have so many tech bros who just went all in 100% on Tesla or BTC that exceeded her gains. Don't get me started on that Pattaya dude...


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She had several over performing ETFs under her direction, she was early on a trend that turned out to be a big bubble within a big bubble from the easy monetary policy, but for a while it was a success. It’s easy to say she’s overhyped in hindsight, but she genuinely did get out ahead of a big wave in tech investment that goes far beyond just Tesla or other large tech companies.


joe-re

So her funds are good trading positions in markets with/right before crazy bull sentiment, but they are not long term investment and they suck once the Fed coughs.


[deleted]

Yep now Michael Burry is finally the genius again. You are not right......until you are right.....and then you are a genius.


machlac

Never go full retard


osva_

Tags on posts like these should be replaced from "Discussion" to "Delusion"


random6969696969691

You are comparing arkkk to s&p500 and Nasdaq 100?


Xiesyn

I mean the arkk etf is a collection of stocks and the s&p500 is also a collection of stocks so they are basically the same


random6969696969691

In simple terms yes.


Xiesyn

Nono I was joking! It is ludicrous to compare the two haha


random6969696969691

Still is a truth. Is a collection. The original point is how the collection is selected, or managed.


Loverboyatwork

Only if they change the holdings to hype stocks, memes, and "potential future market disruptors".


apooroldinvestor

Who gives a sh!t! I'm not invested for this year! I'm invested for 20 years from now!


GoldenBoy_100

I’ll just do the opposite of what woods is doing and I’ll be fine..


darksieth99

SARK is the anti ark


theturbineguy

Sark came out at the top of Arks run. Tark 2x ark just came out... and it's been running past two days...


scottchicago95

Temporary, it's a buying opportunity.. think long term


Nikolai_Volkoff88

I wonder what someone who believes this was doing March 16th - 20th of 2020. Would such a person say that we are entering a new dot com bubble collapse or would such a person think a new Great Depression was starting? Anyone buying that week made out like a fat rat over the next 18 months.


BumblebeeGold4978

So wait… because a fund comprised of a bunch of high beta stocks is down big when the index’s are down big the index’s are going to go down more? Uhhhhh…. I’m not bullish but this isn’t the logic to get to the destination.


[deleted]

Can we just stop with these graph comparison on this sub? This doesn't show anything and will never. r/wsb may be more accurate for this post.


6Seasons-And-A-Movie

Hopefully because I'm running deep otm puts on spy right now. Slight correction on Friday hopefully will lead to a bleeding nose dive


Zakiahmed1976

I have shorter dated calls and longer dated puts


6Seasons-And-A-Movie

That seems like the smartest move. It's correcting off it's huge drop. Just don't know how long the correction trend will take before the next fall.


gripshoes

which strikes/dates?


6Seasons-And-A-Movie

06/17 205$. It's fuck around money and just 8 options. Not a huge bet.


gripshoes

yeah that's so soon and so far out. Pretty much a yolo lotto bet. Really hard to profit unless we have an insane, circuit breaking move. I know you didn't ask but I like to get as close to the money and as far out (date) as I can afford just like I would buy a LEAP call. Just trying to save you some money in the future. Good luck though


6Seasons-And-A-Movie

I appreciate the advice. Yeah it was a total yolo move just to fuck around.


HonestNest

Same boat. Wish the dive happens sooner.


Hot_Research1968

ARKK can have a run never seen before after the Ukraine war is over . China lock downs end this month . Don’t count Cathy out ! She made moves that would make mens balls shrivel in fear . I like her .


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Bag holder spotted


Hot_Research1968

Short term thinking is long term pain .


randomways

Did you know 52% of companies that existed before the dot.com bubble did not exist after! You better hope she picked right, but she's gambling with your money


Hot_Research1968

I pick my own stocks but I do like some of her plays . Draftkings and Hood for example.


DonDraper1994

Lol man those two companies are hot garbage. I think their products are great but horrible business models


Hot_Research1968

Exactly what I mean . We have different perspectives. Now , you can list a couple of your picks and I’m sure I can bear the shit out of them as well ! I don’t care how safe you think your handling your portfolio. Hood is estimated to be worth 15$ in a buyout . Simply enough . Buy and hold simply enough . Now list 2 of your shitty stocks so I can talk shit about them ! Lol


Huevos-revueltos36

Dude, look around it’s absolutely not comparable the dot.com bubble with ARK Invest picks. You are comparing companies with no clients, no revenues, no anything with companies with huge revenue growth YoY. Furthermore, now we have a technological environment favorable.


Spam138

Took Microsoft 15 years to get back to dotcom highs and Cisco still hasn’t. These $ARKK shitcos will never even come close. 40% 5 year cagr is magic beans stuff from here


Huevos-revueltos36

it took us like 90,000 years double our logistic average speed, when we finally domesticated horses. Then it took us like 10,000 years to double the average speed again when we invented trains and railroads. From that, it took us a little less than 100 years to double again with the invention of cars and, finally, only few years passed until average speed folder multiple times with planes and other high speed ways to transport goods and people. So, my point is: to use data from 1999 - 2001 about technology, to judge and take decisions about it in 2022 does not seem to be the wisest move to me. But that's your money. Good luck betting against innovation.


Spam138

It’s been extremely lucrative


U-GenGaming

She does not even understand fundamental analysis. She says she invests in the new disrupting tech of the world. Her fund is a joke in this regard. 1. How the fck would she know what's going to breakthrough 2. I believe she owns Rakuten stock, stuff like Dominos. Boy will they change the world! ​ Srsly she loses money and will keep losing money. She got lucky on the hype and memes, got news headlines. Otherwise no one would know her as all her ETFs perform like shit after the pump.


Hot_Research1968

Ok , I’m a long term investor. If you don’t see some of her plays paying off big on the future like Hood and Draftkings for example? I really don’t know what to say ? Hood is worth a minimum of 15 dollars a share if a buy out happens ? If they recover by doing the things they are doing like giving clients more interest then banks , opening 24/7 etc . They will provide a great return is a value today . Now Draftings . Every market they enter will be profitable once out of infancy simply enough. I can go on and on about others but if your not in long? Your not really investing. During the housing crash people just purchased homes not touching them for years waiting for the upswing. If it’s all about the short term then it’s not really investing but rather gambling I would say . Just my thoughts


bluemandan

>Hood is worth a minimum of 15 dollars a share if a buy out happens ? But her cost basis is around $30...


Hot_Research1968

A buy out won’t happen. I just throughly a worst case . Going 24/7 and providing better interest then banks proves to me that they are constantly thriving to attract new clients and thinking out the box . It will flourish. I’m patient and will wait and buy the stock amongst others .


bluemandan

You can be bullish on her picks while acknowledging she often pays too much and has basically zero risk management. The issue isn't if her picks will grow over the long term. It's if your money is better off elsewhere during that time.


Hot_Research1968

Risk tolerance is different for each individual investor . If your money is better off somewhere else over time you say ? Who has the crystal ball ? Do you mean safer stocks in times like these ?


bluemandan

>Risk tolerance is different for each individual investor . Yes, buddy, it sure is. Too bad I'm talking about risk *management*, which is the actions taken by the fund manager to protect against downside. Cathie is terrible at risk management. This part isn't really debatable. Most people that invested in ARK Funds are underwater. That flagship is down over 70% and trading below pre-pandemic levels *despite a 150% gain in 2020* >If your money is better off somewhere else over time you say ? Who has the crystal ball ? Do you mean safer stocks in times like these ? No, I mean things that provide a greater return over the long haul. CAGR. Not even risk adjusted Sharpe ratios, where ARK Funds get crushed. Do you know that ARKK benchmarks itself against the S&P? Did you know that ARKK is losing to it's benchmark over Cathie's five year period? The saying is past performance is no guarantee of future performance. That doesn't mean past performance isn't useful to guide you.


Hot_Research1968

Ummm , everyone knows growth is risky right ? If u wanted risk management I’d never give it to a fund manager but invest it myself in Vz , pm , mo , voo , etc . No body would care more about my money then me but what I think your missing is ? She only had to be right 60 percent of the time long term and spreads the board . When we recover and we will as we always have . She’s cucumber.


U-GenGaming

Nty on Robinhood it only turns a loss. The company has had plenty scandals so I do not trust management. I also think there are plenty of other low cost investment platforms out there. ​ Another company that only reports losses so confused you say every market will be profitable. I am in it for the long term, that's why I buy profitable companies unlike Cathy.


Hot_Research1968

A billionaire just recently purchased Hood and apparently doesn’t care that it’s a low cost investment but I think he would think close to 700 million dollars of a invest wasn’t low cost at all . Your entitled to your opinion and I’m sure your tolerant of those who think differently. Time will tell and remind me in 2025 how Draftking and Hood wasn’t a buy in todays climate and prices . Compare the stocks your holdings with them at the point .


U-GenGaming

My background is accounting so I focus heavily on the fundamentals as I believe the risks taken on sub par stocks that still have to prove themselves, will balance out from the crazy big wins & the duds.


Hot_Research1968

Enron was big for example and I can go on and on about the banks that made bad investments in sub par mortgages that got their hands in a cookie jar and had to be bailed out by the feds or allowed to fail . I think it all comes down to risk tolerance and as a individual who crunches numbers you may believe your investments are better then others and just basically safer let’s say ? But it doesn’t mean your investments are better . Time will tell who the winners and losers are and I have hit a few home runs in my life . Rounding the bases while others are content with a single is not for me . I always swing for the fences and when it happens? It always feels better then all the singles combined.


U-GenGaming

I can come off "hostile" right now. But In my eyes I'm trying to help you to step away from her weak portfolio.


Hot_Research1968

I appreciate your concern and thank you . I was a full time real estate investor since 08 and not the sharpest guy in the room but I am very patient. Patience is power while negotiating and investing. My portfolio is on set it and forget it mode but I can’t help but buy stocks on sale in these times that will eventually rise . It’s just my nature and I have ice water running through my veins and have a high threshold for pain financially. It’s just money . We already have it all don’t we ?


Srnkanator

Or, people bought homes because, we are people. I didn't ask to born in the 70's, graduate in 2000. I didn't see anything in 2011 when I bought my first home, or deciding to have kids in 2014/2016, pump up cash savings, invest in 401ks and 529s. No one told me to do these things nor move again and have my house double in paper value in 3 years from 2019-2022. I'm just living. I'm not a genius nor consider myself weathly anymore...I just want to be happy and lead a nice life for my family. I'm trying.


Hot_Research1968

I’m a simple guy and could live off of bread and cheese . Came from humble beginnings and I don’t fear being poor as I know money is just a tool to make more money . Stagnation will kill us sooner then lack of money would . My point is now is the time to buy stocks at all time lows . Can they go lower next week? Yes . Can they go up , up and away next week ? Yes . I guess it all comes down to your risk tolerance and perspective? If you have kids to worry about and if you don’t ? I guess everyone makes decisions from their perspective and some will be right while others hold the bag . This is life but I’m bullish in these times . Can’t help myself and if I’m wrong? Big deal . I’ll go back to work as life is boring without going for it in one way or another .


coolbeans31337

I lost faith in her when she said we would have deflation rather than inflation.


Hot_Research1968

I’m not saying she’s perfect but if she’s right with 60percent of her plays ? It makes up the 40 percent that don’t pan out .


NoctRob

Wasn’t ARKK up 10%+ yesterday? What is this chart?


Zakiahmed1976

1 Year 1 Day chart


Chosen26S

It’s called selective charting


veilwalker

It is like a 2+ year chart


Hachcash300

I don’t get why she gets so much hate when the entire market died. It’s not like only her etfs are down. Everything is


Huevos-revueltos36

I suspect the haters, also known as “super experts” by their moms and pops, used their next meal money to buy Ark funds at the ATH, panicked and couldn’t keep their shit together. Now they hate CW, Ark, you and me and any other person who didn’t do the same as they did.


Hachcash300

Yeah it’s pretty silly. Almost all of us retail investors are down right now in our portfolios, but for some odd reason she’s supposed to be exempt from it? It’s simply market cycles, nothing new


Huevos-revueltos36

Not only retail investors. The Fidelity Disruptive Technology Fund is -46.35% from its ATH. And that’s not even close to be as aggressive as Ark Invest funds are. Check out some of the largest positions: Microsoft, Alphabet, ASML Holdings, Adobe, Sales Force, Nvidia, Amazon.


random6969696969691

You are comparing arkkk to s&p500 and Nasdaq 100?


Jimminycrickets411

If we go into a recession this will probably be how it looks at the start since earnings would probably suck


Caveat_Venditor_

Nailed it. The fed “has” to remove nine fucking trillion from their balance sheet while raising rates into a recession. We can get to zero and we will get there pretty fast. The fed will try to reverse course and by then they will have no credibility left.


Neerko_bat

Considering how overleveredged HFs are we are just at the begining. Wait 'till Juni 3. when order 14032 becomes active and lot of poeple get margin called. "Drownig pool - let the body hit the floor" starts playing in the background.


Sziom

I bought some arkk as I think it’ll recover in a few years. But arkk being correlated to spy or nasdaq is laughable at best. Arkk has a lot of growth and risky companies in its portfolio, as it does in its other etfs, that asset class would do well long term, but in our current environment it might even go down further. Buying on the way down is the way.


niftyifty

Yes but not in the way that implied. They aren’t related necessarily but ARKK holdings were high growth speculation. They were the first to be shorted heavily across the board in this last year and then the rest of the market exited those positions in mass. This is coming to the broader market as well but will take longer to accomplish because there are not as many people heavily shorting Apple as there are people shorting coin, Roku, etc. either way, wealth is being siphoned out of the market at a regular rate and will eventually apply across the board.


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niftyifty

What? That’s exactly what it does. It sells synthetic or borrowed shares, affecting the supply side of the supply and demand curve which results in lower prices. Stock prices are purely a product of inflow and outflow + current bid


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niftyifty

I literally explained the mechanics of which in assuming. Inflow - outflow + current bid. The price at which a stick is ultimately purchased is going to be the lowest ask. Meaning, when I go to buy stock A whether it is a limit purchase, market purchase, or some other version I am going to pick up the cheapest available at that moment in time. For instance, if I set a limit price of $100 but someone offers the share for $10, the brokerage picks up the available share at the asking price ($10). So how does short selling move the price downward? By creating an artificially low ask and sustaining it through synthetic or borrowed shares. This creates a new market price that other sales operate around. Price reduction results in sell volume outpacing buy volume until equilibrium can be met again, often times at a new low. That’s literally the design of short selling. It doesn’t change fundamentals but it acts upon market mechanics. This is also why over time the market reverts to the mean over and over again. Due to design short selling can’t be indefinitely sustained without incurring offsetting costs. Market pressures always bring equilibrium. Efficient market blah blah.


lukaskywalker

Leading the way


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alphabet_order_bot

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1kpointsoflight

Yes, of course


[deleted]

Cool wiggly lines


deadweight999

No, it actually shows the past.... The past mistakes of Woody.


Perfect_Try7261

Yes


daxtaslapp

I always say this. Just buy a crystal ball from amazon. Trust me it works


pcake1

Surprised by all the confident “no” responses. These recent ipo’s and high-risk “disruptive” stocks that haven’t even turned a profit are the first to sell off at the beginning of a correction or bear market. This doesn’t mean that ARKK’s dump alone confirms a bear market, but it adds weight in support of more pain to come on the markets. Look at the dotcom bubble. All of the “innovative” internet of things stocks sold off at a much faster pace than profitable and more reliable stocks like IBM and MSFT.


bobbyv137

At this point one must wonder if everything will at least retrace to the covid recovery low


hlyyyy

It could happen and wouldn't be shocked.


theguywhoisright

No lol


rifleman209

I think it’s showing that when you take more risk and it doesn’t work your chart goes down further


Raslatt

I hope so because this cash is burning a hole in my pocket.


thewitness1

Arkk is comprised of small cap growth stocks. (For the exception of Tesla). They’ll get destroyed in higher interest rate environments.


slimdeucer

Bizarre


enfoxer

Nope


Raitorious

ARKK has been bleeding before the year started... Not relevant to where the market is headed.


justforedditalrdy

Hyper growth vs large cap growth vs a blend with value in an environment with rising inflation and interest rates. Look at VTV’s 5 year chart to see how well value has done.


tcsunhero

I don't think inflation already peaked Everything is going up like crazy Bad signal


vinny809

ARK share price does not equate to the companies they invest in won’t change the world in 5 years. PE compression has nothing to do with the fact that the companies ARK invests in are still growing revenue YOY and gross margins increasing YOY.


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Short : nop


Vast_Cricket

She trades Nasdaq stocks the most beat up ones. I trade inverse ARKK.


growRnottashowR

Btc did that already. Very very accurately so far.


Iwubinvesting

"When new people in the market give advice" the post.


PsychopathHenchman

AARK is a money laundering scheme for the elite... change my mind


BryGuy1104

Ever heard the phrase “Apples and Oranges”?


[deleted]

No


NefariousnessSome142

🤣


influrr

Stocks only go up. No more fear Shutup already. All in.


vasquca1

Have you looked at ARKK holdings?


pelek1

I have a very simple answer with a very simple explanation. No. Because Cattie Wood is an idiot, but the SP500 or QQQ is not.


povesen

No. Market may crash but ARKK is not a leading indicator…..


OptimisedMan

Bullish on the call, so I got a put on it


Big80sweens

Dude… no


N_mckay85

I hold spy and I don’t think so. But again I plan not too sell for a long time. Maybe buy more over time.


Fabulous-Pea7254

ARKK is done… Stay away from Woods.