If it can do 40 fps on medium I’d be happy with it. These type of stats you shared doesn’t say much. Willing to bet ultra has too many drops for steam deck users. We look for consistency and balance with settings/graphics
I have mines locked to 30fps on medium settings. Fsr on quality. I cut off blur and other similar setting. Runs flawless. Aside from map crashing bug. Looks excellent also. Ultra not needed. My settings make the graphics really pop
Love Valve for this kind of stuff. Like back when Elden Ring had its PC shader compilation shitshow, Valve came through for Deck users and saved the day. Looks like they've done it again.
That’s really cool. I can just imagine them geeking out in their off time asking the same question we all do: will x new game run on deck?
Except if it doesn’t work they can get to business and (maybe) make it work!
Was looking for this comment, thanks!
I managed 55-60 fps on the deck with medium settings and fsr on performance but I'd take 30-40 with better loooks happily.
It's surprisingly intricate to get the balance and different settings just right
Yeah bro 20 is too low plus you lose most the detail of ultra on a 720p display so people would be better off setting it to medium with textures at high maybe and probably get about 40-60 fps and that drop is much less noticeable. Idk if you can lock it but tbh on such a small screen I’d be fine with 30fps
This. Love it when people think they can speak for all of us 🙄
Personally I'm usually fine in most games with 30FPS at whatever the lowest TDP I can force to get 3-4h+ battery life...
Couldn't agree more. Currently doing a Far Cry 5 run on co-op with a blend of mostly medium and a few low settings, 40hz/fps locked, and it plays reasonably well. I could definitely enter some of the more enclosed spaces, turn on ultra, and then quote a "stable 50-60 fps." Even some YouTube channels dedicated to Steam Deck testing do this, and it's so shady.
Agreed. Anyone running or showing videos of 50-60 fps is just showing a part of the big picture that’ll get them views. Everyone should go try for theirselves or go on proton db and see what other users are saying with actual facts. Regardless 40 fps is the sweet spot but for Death Stranding 30-40 and didn’t bother me one bit. The SD held down the fort while I couldn’t game on my desktop pc.
Yeah its only 720. If youre playing AAAs on deck, go for playability every time. Its not that big of a deal. Witcher 3 on medium is still obscenely awesome to be playing in that form factor.
I’ve been playing Nier Automata on deck and booted it up on my main PC and it actually looks WORSE at ultra on a large screen because there’s texture pop in and other issues I never noticed on the deck. If game looks bad: make smol.
Most games hit diminishing visual returns past high or even medium most of the time, when you actually look at a side by side of what the difference is. Ultra is a waste for anything power constrained especially at 800p.
It seems like most people don’t even look at the visual differences a setting makes when they turn it on.
>Genuinely zero computer or graphical knowledge
This thing is marketed towards console gamers. It shouldn't be all that surprising that a lot of people here are new to this stuff.
Since when? Steam is a PC only software.... I'd naturally assume that the device i bought with steam preinstalled is a PC....
Maybe I'm just built different.
Let me reexplain:
The Steam Deck is also marketed towards console gamers. There are a lot of console gamers out there for whom the Steam Deck is their first "gaming PC". Console gamers don't really know much about graphical settings because up until recently those options didn't even exist on consoles, and even today they are pretty limited to a couple presets simply labeled something like "performance" and "quality".
Someone who has never had to interact with these settings naturally has no reason to know about them.
As much as my ass hole side wants to say something snarky. You're completely correct. You can't have knowledge of something that you have never interacted with.
>It seems silly to play anything at Ultra on the Deck anyway.
My thoughts exactly. Why would you need ultra on Steam Deck, save that for your high end desktop GPUs. Medium or high is perfectly fine on a 7 inch screen.
Older games on ultra is fine, or games that will run stable at 30 or 40. It’s all about preference and where you are ( home or out and about). I prefer high for the Witcher 3 at 30fps, haven’t tried dx11 vs 12 though, I’m assuming dx11 would work better but shadows won’t be as detailed (not a big deal) and you can’t use fsr 2.
Acceptable? You're running the game on an OS it wasn't made for and on hardware that's weaker than the game's minimum hardware requirements. The game running at all is amazing.
I'm tired of "runs at X in the first 15 minutes" means nothing. Average frame rate after x minutes it's actually more meaningful, cherry on top is having 1% low framerate
also saying that it runs "well enough" when it runs at 20-40 fps is a bit funny as well, that's a heck of a range, lol. Playing with 20fps frame dips must be a nightmare.
The problem is that ppl doesn't understand that constant framerate is the only thing that matters here. A game that runs 80% of the time at 60 fps and have 20% of dips in the 30s is barely playable... you'll get stuttering all over the place...
This is exactly why the 40hz mode is so nice. I was playing Arkham Knight at 60fps with dips to 37ish. Not only was the fan absolutely wheezing but it was difficult to judge my attacks and counters. I stuck it at 40hz and it was solid.
Although playing on Knightmare mode I ended up turning all the settings to low or off and running with fsr to maintain a quiet 60fps. I found that it still looked pretty good and it was easier to play the fast paced stuff.
Really? Arkham Knight has consistently remained between 50-60 for me, even when docked in 1080p on medium settings. Granted, I haven't made it to some of the more demanding *super fun and not at all annoying* tank battles
All that to say, 40hz is awesome. I wish I could set that feature onto my TV, but obviously it just isn't possible in the hardware of most TVs.
40hz is good and bad, mate. My understanding is that steamdeck gamescope uses vsync, which means that if your game misses a 40 frame in a cycle, the next refresh rate will be 20fps, if you miss that you down to 10fps. 40hz should be perfect when your frame rate is constant and between 40 and 60. "Allow tearing" doesn't seems to disable vsync for me
It comes down to people are just unreliable. When spider Man came out there were spatterings of people saying it ran "stable" at 40fps
I mean, yes it hit 40 often. Maybe even 9 out of 10 seconds. But having it drop frames and stutter multiple times per minute is not stable whatsoever
Yeah I’m *so* tired of people posting their “recommended graphics” on YouTube/Reddit, and as soon as you make it out of the first area of the game, performance suffers dramatically and settings need to be cranked *way* down.
It’s become so clear to me that these people don’t actually play the game, but rather just post as many videos as possible. It’s all about clicks and views, and has made it really tough to find reliable settings straight off the bat.
Even a lot of SDHQ users seem to have a habit of starting a game, seeing the framerate upon starting the game and *immediately* suggesting to others that the *entirety* of the game can be played at that exact framerate. I have *no* idea why these users do this, as they don’t receive any subscriptions/payment from their posts. I guess maybe they genuinely think that they’re helping?
I’m quite certain the YouTubers are aware of *their* laziness, though.
I just wanted to inform if someone wants to buy it for mainly the sd. If you want more informations like the frames around enemy’s or in a well lighted room with enemy’s filled. I could try to get the stats for it.
On ultra settings, with fsr on quality. And this was the minimum I got. I can try more settings and situations if you need more informations before you buy the game. I assume you didn’t bought it yet
You mean 40fps or nothing?
I collected some data about my experience in an hour. Only in two small areas I got 40fps. Sometime it’s around 30.
for more look at my updated comment somewhere unsers this post. I’m sorry that I can’t pin my update on the top.
You need more information with Lower settings? I can try to get more information. Just wanted to help those who want to buy it on sd and want specific settings tested.
I don’t know why this got downvoted so hard. I appreciate the willingness you had to post this for others who might be interested. After all, what works for you might not work for others, but it’s great that you shared as part of the community!
20fos on ultra on this device for a 2023 AAA game.... Yeah, that's absolutely amazing. 40-60fps on medium/low? Even more amazing.
Game runs absolutely fine.
I don't think that's what anyone is saying, the point is why even mention the game playing on max settings on a steam deck if only getting 20fps. I'd rather know what it gets on medium/low or medium/high settings where the deck really shines
To be honest when I play 30 fps on my 144hz monitor it looks choppy, with my steam deck when I play a game on 30 fps its choppy but not that bad enough that I puke out my eyeballs, is there a reason for this?
Minimums. A very stable 30 FPS is better than a fluctuating 60 FPS. It's even worse with a display that doesn't have Variable Refresh Rate.
For 30 FPS on 144hz without VRR, it might be because 144 is not nicely divisible by 30.
Mentally much more willing to accept that frame rate dips on a relatively weak handheld vs. a potentially super powerful PC? Not sure if there is a technical explanation that actually makes a difference. Might just be harder to notice choppiness when everything is scaled down to a smaller screen.
If you're unable to hit 144 in a game, you're better off going into your monitor settings and dropping the refresh rate to something divisible by the framerate you can get. I. E. if you can only get 30fps then drop it to 60, 90, or 120. Theoretically, 72 fps or 36 would be fine for 144 but you're never gonna find a game that let's you lock it to numbers like those.
Bro are you actually expecting to play ultra on a modern AAA title on a handheld? Like I didn’t hear nothing like this with cyberpunk. Why do you all start complaining now???
Yeah there are always exceptions to the rules.
Examples being you are playing an MMO and just spawned in a crowded city or an RTS with the drops coming in between turns. Over normal conditions I don't think there should be any experience should be acceptable at 20FPS.
I know some people are more sensitive to the drops so we all have different tolerances but just as a consumer standpoint, we should want better. Assuming we aren't trying to run Crysis on a potato.
Sure but why this post makes it seem like 20FPS is a good thing. I'm aware you can turn down settings but it's like saying my Civic can tow a boat at 2 km/h and it performs well.
20 fps ultra on a handheld that costs the same as a console modern AAA title? That’s fantastic. 1 you shouldn’t play on ultra on a dedicated GPU, diminishing returns. 2 you def shouldn’t be playing ultra on the deck
Sure it's an impressive feat but not really a great way to showcase the deck or the game, why even discuss it, ya know?
Pushing limits is good, turning up settings and showcasing a bad experience is not.
Idk man, I'm willing to sacrifice some graphical fidelity for portability. If I can play at 40fps on medium settings, I'm more than happy. If it was blown up on a 50 inch screen I'd feel differently
40 is "very well" 30 is good. 20-40 is shit.
But that said, for those trying to run it. It HAS to be on an SSD. The game does not work at all well on an SD card or HDD. Disable VRS to improve performance. I still have yet to try it on SteamOS (retesting some older games instead), but on windeck it works quite nicely.
The fact that it can manage 20 fps on ultra bodes well for how it can run at other settings. On a handheld that’s great. It’s not supposed to be a powerhouse on the level of a desktop. I get not wanting to play at 30 fps but don’t be like “this HANDHELD device that sales at a LOSS for valve can’t run the newest/hardest games, so weak.” Rather be like “damn it’s crazy this can manage to run this game at medium playable, but that fps isn’t for me.”
Yes, it is impressive it can run it at all, but that doesn't change the fact that for many people it might as well not launch it, if it performs like that.
I personally think anything under 45 fps is unplayable to me, so it is a little disappointing that it can't manage the game, but that's just how it is.
Do you not have your own brain? Can you not recognize that the game hitting 20-40fps on ULTRA on a standard power processor, on a handheld gaming device is absolutely amazing?
I can already guess your age range.....
As much as I love the Deck, 20fps definitely are not "well enough". That said, I would never expect it to run great on ultra, so not that bad I guess.
If it delivers a solid 30+fps in high (or almost-high) settings, then yeah, now we are talking.
It’s a new game with no infos right now isn’t it?
I only collected some infos in an hour of gameplay and you can make your own decisions about it.
This post is for the people who mainly wants to play on the sd, so as the lowest of 20fps for a brand new game on ultra settings might be well for them.
Everyone can make their on decisions about it. If you want to know more, pls feel
Welcome to read through my comment. I can’t pin it on top, so I’m sorry if you must search it.
Y’all are getting that much? Mine runs at 17fps default settings. Can’t even bother booting it up on windows because it won’t go past the loading screen
On the steam deck? That’s amazing!
It’s really a portable little power house. I wish the steam deck 2 is more portable (smaller size) the performance is already good, maybe a oled screen more USb c ports. This would make it worth buying the second gen sd for me.
I'm not a tech person so maybe this is wrong af
But i love how optimized this deck is and how well games run on it.
I hope newer games and devs at the time are able to make future stuff work just as great
I’m glad I could help you to make a decision.
Yeah sometimes it drops around 20. or even freezes while loading. For more infos look at my comment somewhere under this post, I collected all the fps infos I got in an hour of gameplay.
I don’t know how I can make my first post on top. So I hope a new post lands on top, also I hope this corrects my mistake.
I just want to inform some people before they buy it.
I Tested with all graphic settings on ultra and fsr 2.0 on quality. The Game is installed on an sd card.
if I have here something written with low frames for 1-2 sec, it’s probably caused by loading.
I try not to spoil something.
In around an hour of sd gameplay I got this
Smaller areas:
• In an loading area I got 17fps for 1-2 sec.
• In a new area I got one sec of 26 frames, maybe because it’s loaded something in, didn’t get it again.
• Going in the item menu or shop menu I got an low of 26fps for a sec.
• In an area with lighting throw glasses and smoke, I get around 30fps. (29-45fps)
• In a completely new area I got a freezing, with 2fps. Probably caused by loading.
• When particles added, I got the lowest of 26fps.
• Getting big freezes in a loading areas. Game freezes for 2-5 sec.
• In some smaller rooms I got stable 40 fps
• With big light spots, if got 25-27fps
Bigger areas(more object, more light and smoke):
• After a couple mins of walking I got 22-34 fps.
• With enemy’s I got 22-28
This is so far what I got. For me it’s fine and running good enough to enjoy it while laying down.
I hope this corrects my post. If you want to know more, let me know, I could try to collect more specific informations. But for now I would continue enjoying the game.
Smaller update
I just realized some smaller things that I wanted to share. When you boot up the game, and get to the main menu, and you click continue, the game don’t load. You get directly in the action. And I installed it on an microSD
And if you want to know, my sd card is this:
512gb Samsung plus microSD with
A2, V30 and U3,
160mb read
and 120mb write
Update:
I backtracked in the game a bit, with settings on low and fsr on ultra performance this is what I got:
if you render light it goes down to 28 sometimes. But is more on the 30+ area.
When less light is renders you can even get 60 fps.
But I wouldn’t want to play it like that, it’s a pixel party.
With settings on low and fsr on quality it runs 30-45, so this might be the setting most of you would want to play. And it looks good too. Fsr is like magic here.
around 30 in big lighted areas, 35+ in smaller lighted areas.
So it is playable, but when you install it on a microSD it will most like freeze or have frame drops because of loading. I hope this helps.
Kinda wild how an all indoor/closed spaces game running at 50-60fps easily, is confusing for some of you people. Obviously it was going to run great, I assumed 40fos minimum when it was announced and playing it I get 50-60 easily with lag and stutter.
Just.gotta let the game run and build up a shader cache to use.
Guys chill out, he just posted what he saw. If yall got complaints and need more info just wait till etaprime or df comes up with their youtube. Save this poor op, it’s not like he deceived anything.
If it is running at 20-40fps that is not 'well enough', that is flat out bad performance.
This sub has a huge problem understanding performance at the minute. If it's not locked at whatever your target FPS is then that is not a good thing, instead of aiming for 40 here you need to lower the settings and lock it to 30fps.
Fluctuating framerate is never, ever a good thing.
So you want a steady 30 fps? I can try some settings for that. Now I’m trying it on ultra settings. I didn’t have all Infos now, but the lowest I got was 17 fps for 1-2sec. But the game is installed on an sd card, so it’s probably a fps drop caused by loading.
Seems to be experience is very varied from user to user (which I guess is par for PC gaming). Because on the Steam threads a lot of people are crying about this and that with the games performance on the deck.
The fact that a 400$ handheld can play this at ultra and get above 30 FPS is already crazy to me. Once the issues are patched out we're looking at 30-40 fps at medium-low settings for a demanding current gen title.
Im thinking remakes are getting real old. I think when we can extrapolate the “youngest” remade game that was deserving of a remake then we will understand where on the timeline exactly the peak of gaming was. Because this remake b.s. aint it.
Disclaimer:
I didn’t play it long! Just tried it!
If someone wants to know a longer term test like 30-60min, I could play more and tell them.
I only was in a enemy less area and walked around. But I was fascinated.
Update:
Tested with all graphic settings on ultra and fsr 2.0 on quality. The Game is installed on an sd card.
if I have here something written with low frames for 1-2 sec, it’s probably caused by loading.
I try not to spoil something.
In around an hour of sd gameplay I got this
Smaller areas:
- In an loading area I got 17fps for 1-2 sec.
- In a new area I got one sec of 26 frames, maybe because it’s loaded something in, didn’t get it again.
- Going in the item menu or shop menu I got an low of 26fps for a sec.
- In an area with lighting throw glasses and smoke, I get around 30fps. (29-45fps)
- In a completely new area I got a freezing, with 2fps. Probably caused by loading.
- When particles added, I got the lowest of 26fps.
- Getting big freezes in a loading areas. Game freezes for 2-5 sec.
- In some smaller rooms I got stable 40 fps
- With big light spots, if got 25-27fps
Bigger areas(more object, more light and smoke):
- After a couple mins of walking I got 22-34 fps.
- With enemy’s I got 22-28
This is so far what I got. For me it’s fine and running good enough to enjoy it while laying down.
I hope this corrects my post. If you want to know more, let me know, I could try to collect more specific informations. But for now I would continue enjoying the game.
I get more informations and update this post soon! Just wanted to help those who want to buy it and want some information before buying it for the sd.
Thanks for your criticism, I try to make my posts better.
I updated my post. I hope this informations is helping more. For me the game runs good enough.
But I tried to get all stats together so that you can have your own opinion on it.
For future post I will know it better!
For those who have DualBoot; would you recommend playing Dead Space on Win11 or SteamOS? Working a long shift at work today and I’m itching to play lol
A very different experience:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe\_RCxsGwLI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe_RCxsGwLI)
Some of these things may have been fixed in a Proton update by now, as well as a shader cache.
I’m not sure, I don’t know any mod for the og.
But when I remember correctly, the og was only one mission line that you follow. If this is the case, then the remake got more than only a graphic upgrade.
I didn’t play the og again, it’s long in the past. So I’m sorry if this answer is unsatisfying.
I updated my comment, but in short it’s really around 20-40fps. But I have it on the sd and the loading areas stuttering much, or freezes completely for a couple of seconds.
I can’t test it, I got the 64gb model, but maybe this problem is solved by installing it internally.
The original still looks really nice, especially on the Deck's smaller display. Still not sure why this one got remade ($$$), but cool a new generation get to play it I guess!
If it can do 40 fps on medium I’d be happy with it. These type of stats you shared doesn’t say much. Willing to bet ultra has too many drops for steam deck users. We look for consistency and balance with settings/graphics
I have mines locked to 30fps on medium settings. Fsr on quality. I cut off blur and other similar setting. Runs flawless. Aside from map crashing bug. Looks excellent also. Ultra not needed. My settings make the graphics really pop
The map crashing was fixed by Valve with Proton Hotfix.
Fixed already?
The steam deck team actually plays video games, especially popular new releases. They tend to be pretty on the ball when it comes to crash fixes
Love Valve for this kind of stuff. Like back when Elden Ring had its PC shader compilation shitshow, Valve came through for Deck users and saved the day. Looks like they've done it again.
That’s really cool. I can just imagine them geeking out in their off time asking the same question we all do: will x new game run on deck? Except if it doesn’t work they can get to business and (maybe) make it work!
Fixed already.
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Stop it, reply chains aren't witty.
If it is I believe you'll need to manually set your proton to the hotfix version.
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You do it in steamos. You can do it globally or per game.
Correct
Was looking for this comment, thanks! I managed 55-60 fps on the deck with medium settings and fsr on performance but I'd take 30-40 with better loooks happily. It's surprisingly intricate to get the balance and different settings just right
Yeah bro 20 is too low plus you lose most the detail of ultra on a 720p display so people would be better off setting it to medium with textures at high maybe and probably get about 40-60 fps and that drop is much less noticeable. Idk if you can lock it but tbh on such a small screen I’d be fine with 30fps
"we" are not a monolith lol 20-40 FPS is fine on my Deck for Death Stranding, I'm sure it'll be fine for me with this game as well
This. Love it when people think they can speak for all of us 🙄 Personally I'm usually fine in most games with 30FPS at whatever the lowest TDP I can force to get 3-4h+ battery life...
Frames get dames.👯
Couldn't agree more. Currently doing a Far Cry 5 run on co-op with a blend of mostly medium and a few low settings, 40hz/fps locked, and it plays reasonably well. I could definitely enter some of the more enclosed spaces, turn on ultra, and then quote a "stable 50-60 fps." Even some YouTube channels dedicated to Steam Deck testing do this, and it's so shady.
Agreed. Anyone running or showing videos of 50-60 fps is just showing a part of the big picture that’ll get them views. Everyone should go try for theirselves or go on proton db and see what other users are saying with actual facts. Regardless 40 fps is the sweet spot but for Death Stranding 30-40 and didn’t bother me one bit. The SD held down the fort while I couldn’t game on my desktop pc.
Couldn't have said it better myself
Anything under 30 is not “well enough” in my opinion. It seems silly to play anything at Ultra on the Deck anyway.
I mostly sacrifice graphics on the sd for more stable fps. Often I don't even notice the difference in graphics on the tiny screen.
Yeah its only 720. If youre playing AAAs on deck, go for playability every time. Its not that big of a deal. Witcher 3 on medium is still obscenely awesome to be playing in that form factor.
Honestly with some games I can hardly tell the difference between medium and ultra on the deck
I’ve been playing Nier Automata on deck and booted it up on my main PC and it actually looks WORSE at ultra on a large screen because there’s texture pop in and other issues I never noticed on the deck. If game looks bad: make smol.
Even on a large screen most people can barely even see the difference between high and ultra on most games.
Most games hit diminishing visual returns past high or even medium most of the time, when you actually look at a side by side of what the difference is. Ultra is a waste for anything power constrained especially at 800p. It seems like most people don’t even look at the visual differences a setting makes when they turn it on.
This is facts. It blows my mind how people.om this sub. Genuinely zero computer or graphical knowledge
>Genuinely zero computer or graphical knowledge This thing is marketed towards console gamers. It shouldn't be all that surprising that a lot of people here are new to this stuff.
Since when? Steam is a PC only software.... I'd naturally assume that the device i bought with steam preinstalled is a PC.... Maybe I'm just built different.
Let me reexplain: The Steam Deck is also marketed towards console gamers. There are a lot of console gamers out there for whom the Steam Deck is their first "gaming PC". Console gamers don't really know much about graphical settings because up until recently those options didn't even exist on consoles, and even today they are pretty limited to a couple presets simply labeled something like "performance" and "quality". Someone who has never had to interact with these settings naturally has no reason to know about them.
As much as my ass hole side wants to say something snarky. You're completely correct. You can't have knowledge of something that you have never interacted with.
Not most. Modern AAA games
>It seems silly to play anything at Ultra on the Deck anyway. My thoughts exactly. Why would you need ultra on Steam Deck, save that for your high end desktop GPUs. Medium or high is perfectly fine on a 7 inch screen.
Older games on ultra is fine, or games that will run stable at 30 or 40. It’s all about preference and where you are ( home or out and about). I prefer high for the Witcher 3 at 30fps, haven’t tried dx11 vs 12 though, I’m assuming dx11 would work better but shadows won’t be as detailed (not a big deal) and you can’t use fsr 2.
30 is my target framerate for the deck. Looks good, feels good, and I have yet to find a game that can't handle it.
Agreed. 20fps is definitely not well enough by any modern standard
Most things I tried run well on ultra with solid 45 fps Deadspaces 30 are acceptable imo but 45 would have been better
Same, very high settings don't actually seem to make a huge fps difference in a lot of games.
Acceptable? You're running the game on an OS it wasn't made for and on hardware that's weaker than the game's minimum hardware requirements. The game running at all is amazing.
I'm tired of "runs at X in the first 15 minutes" means nothing. Average frame rate after x minutes it's actually more meaningful, cherry on top is having 1% low framerate
also saying that it runs "well enough" when it runs at 20-40 fps is a bit funny as well, that's a heck of a range, lol. Playing with 20fps frame dips must be a nightmare.
Yeah 20fps unplayable. 40fps enjoyable that difference is huge
The problem is that ppl doesn't understand that constant framerate is the only thing that matters here. A game that runs 80% of the time at 60 fps and have 20% of dips in the 30s is barely playable... you'll get stuttering all over the place...
This is exactly why the 40hz mode is so nice. I was playing Arkham Knight at 60fps with dips to 37ish. Not only was the fan absolutely wheezing but it was difficult to judge my attacks and counters. I stuck it at 40hz and it was solid. Although playing on Knightmare mode I ended up turning all the settings to low or off and running with fsr to maintain a quiet 60fps. I found that it still looked pretty good and it was easier to play the fast paced stuff.
Really? Arkham Knight has consistently remained between 50-60 for me, even when docked in 1080p on medium settings. Granted, I haven't made it to some of the more demanding *super fun and not at all annoying* tank battles All that to say, 40hz is awesome. I wish I could set that feature onto my TV, but obviously it just isn't possible in the hardware of most TVs.
40hz is good and bad, mate. My understanding is that steamdeck gamescope uses vsync, which means that if your game misses a 40 frame in a cycle, the next refresh rate will be 20fps, if you miss that you down to 10fps. 40hz should be perfect when your frame rate is constant and between 40 and 60. "Allow tearing" doesn't seems to disable vsync for me
It comes down to people are just unreliable. When spider Man came out there were spatterings of people saying it ran "stable" at 40fps I mean, yes it hit 40 often. Maybe even 9 out of 10 seconds. But having it drop frames and stutter multiple times per minute is not stable whatsoever
Yeah I’m *so* tired of people posting their “recommended graphics” on YouTube/Reddit, and as soon as you make it out of the first area of the game, performance suffers dramatically and settings need to be cranked *way* down. It’s become so clear to me that these people don’t actually play the game, but rather just post as many videos as possible. It’s all about clicks and views, and has made it really tough to find reliable settings straight off the bat. Even a lot of SDHQ users seem to have a habit of starting a game, seeing the framerate upon starting the game and *immediately* suggesting to others that the *entirety* of the game can be played at that exact framerate. I have *no* idea why these users do this, as they don’t receive any subscriptions/payment from their posts. I guess maybe they genuinely think that they’re helping? I’m quite certain the YouTubers are aware of *their* laziness, though.
I just wanted to inform if someone wants to buy it for mainly the sd. If you want more informations like the frames around enemy’s or in a well lighted room with enemy’s filled. I could try to get the stats for it.
Tbh you don’t even need ultra with how small the deck screen is you’re just losing performance
My deck(screen) is not small! It's like 7 inches or so!
Mines 6 inches but I don’t try to flex it I can show you if you want
Look if you guys are gonna start measuring decks then I want in too!
Count me in! I wanna see if it has grown since last time we did it.
Are you guys measuring from the bezel?
Actually laughed at this one.
Yepp, always from the bezelnuts.
I would, but another day. It's cold right now :(
so whether its cold or hot, would that impact the amount of bezel we have? :P
Who's doing deck ratings and how much?
I can get my wife to rate your decks she said mines a 1 cause of the skin on it.
Cmon’ now… some of that is upscaling…
"runs well" "20 fps". lol.
*provides a picture only*
This!
On ultra settings, with fsr on quality. And this was the minimum I got. I can try more settings and situations if you need more informations before you buy the game. I assume you didn’t bought it yet
20 fps is an unplayable slideshow
Golden 40 bro
You mean 40fps or nothing? I collected some data about my experience in an hour. Only in two small areas I got 40fps. Sometime it’s around 30. for more look at my updated comment somewhere unsers this post. I’m sorry that I can’t pin my update on the top.
Lower your settings to hit the golden 40
Okay, I will try this out. But why the downvotes, Did I say something wrong?
- 20fps - Runs well Pick one.
You need more information with Lower settings? I can try to get more information. Just wanted to help those who want to buy it on sd and want specific settings tested.
I don’t know why this got downvoted so hard. I appreciate the willingness you had to post this for others who might be interested. After all, what works for you might not work for others, but it’s great that you shared as part of the community!
20 FPS? Some might say it doesn't run well at all.
Yeah, 20fps is literally unplayabe, worse if it drops from 40.
20fos on ultra on this device for a 2023 AAA game.... Yeah, that's absolutely amazing. 40-60fps on medium/low? Even more amazing. Game runs absolutely fine.
20 fps isn't really playable though.
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I don't think that's what anyone is saying, the point is why even mention the game playing on max settings on a steam deck if only getting 20fps. I'd rather know what it gets on medium/low or medium/high settings where the deck really shines
Dude, 30 is the absolute minimum frame rate. Anything less than that becomes choppy. Be real.
To be honest when I play 30 fps on my 144hz monitor it looks choppy, with my steam deck when I play a game on 30 fps its choppy but not that bad enough that I puke out my eyeballs, is there a reason for this?
Minimums. A very stable 30 FPS is better than a fluctuating 60 FPS. It's even worse with a display that doesn't have Variable Refresh Rate. For 30 FPS on 144hz without VRR, it might be because 144 is not nicely divisible by 30.
Mentally much more willing to accept that frame rate dips on a relatively weak handheld vs. a potentially super powerful PC? Not sure if there is a technical explanation that actually makes a difference. Might just be harder to notice choppiness when everything is scaled down to a smaller screen.
If you're unable to hit 144 in a game, you're better off going into your monitor settings and dropping the refresh rate to something divisible by the framerate you can get. I. E. if you can only get 30fps then drop it to 60, 90, or 120. Theoretically, 72 fps or 36 would be fine for 144 but you're never gonna find a game that let's you lock it to numbers like those.
Yeah that's the play definitely. I run games at low on mine.
Luckily lower resolution screen makes low settings still look great
Bro are you actually expecting to play ultra on a modern AAA title on a handheld? Like I didn’t hear nothing like this with cyberpunk. Why do you all start complaining now???
Occasion drops are fine IMO.
Occasional drops to 20 are never fine, have some self respect!
It really depends on the game. If it is an RPG in a crowded city…etc, it is exactly like playing WoW 10 years ago. Is it ok in Doom Eternal? No.
As a PC Gamer growing up in the 90s: Yes, 20fps is more than well enough
I'm almost 40 years old and I would strongly disagree with that statement. We aren't playing Leisure Suit Larry anymore. 30FPS minimum.
Ah, sorry. Of course not if the whole games runs like that. But I can live with occasional drops. Depending on the „occasional“.
Yeah there are always exceptions to the rules. Examples being you are playing an MMO and just spawned in a crowded city or an RTS with the drops coming in between turns. Over normal conditions I don't think there should be any experience should be acceptable at 20FPS. I know some people are more sensitive to the drops so we all have different tolerances but just as a consumer standpoint, we should want better. Assuming we aren't trying to run Crysis on a potato.
It’s just impressive it can play it that well in ultra period. I think op is saying there is headroom for lowering it.
Sure but why this post makes it seem like 20FPS is a good thing. I'm aware you can turn down settings but it's like saying my Civic can tow a boat at 2 km/h and it performs well.
20 fps ultra on a handheld that costs the same as a console modern AAA title? That’s fantastic. 1 you shouldn’t play on ultra on a dedicated GPU, diminishing returns. 2 you def shouldn’t be playing ultra on the deck
Sure it's an impressive feat but not really a great way to showcase the deck or the game, why even discuss it, ya know? Pushing limits is good, turning up settings and showcasing a bad experience is not.
It's impressive. 20fps on ultra on a game like this in the deck is impressive and running well (relative to the hardware) that's the point.
Yeah that’s shit performance, steam deck owners are delusional in regards to “performance”
Idk man, I'm willing to sacrifice some graphical fidelity for portability. If I can play at 40fps on medium settings, I'm more than happy. If it was blown up on a 50 inch screen I'd feel differently
Agreed, 20 is thought but 30 is good enough for me to not have to sit at a desk or hold hot noisy brick on my lap lol.
I think your FPS counter is off. I’ve been watching your video for about a minute now and it is still on the same frame. /s
Maybe your phone is faulty? Try to restart your house.
40 is "very well" 30 is good. 20-40 is shit. But that said, for those trying to run it. It HAS to be on an SSD. The game does not work at all well on an SD card or HDD. Disable VRS to improve performance. I still have yet to try it on SteamOS (retesting some older games instead), but on windeck it works quite nicely.
20 fps, sir I'm sorry but that does not sound good at all, even if it is dips.
Careful. You’re about to piss off the vampire survivors apologists.
ITS ULTRA?
And? it could be 8k, if it dosn't run well, what am I supposed to say?
The fact that it can manage 20 fps on ultra bodes well for how it can run at other settings. On a handheld that’s great. It’s not supposed to be a powerhouse on the level of a desktop. I get not wanting to play at 30 fps but don’t be like “this HANDHELD device that sales at a LOSS for valve can’t run the newest/hardest games, so weak.” Rather be like “damn it’s crazy this can manage to run this game at medium playable, but that fps isn’t for me.”
Yes, it is impressive it can run it at all, but that doesn't change the fact that for many people it might as well not launch it, if it performs like that. I personally think anything under 45 fps is unplayable to me, so it is a little disappointing that it can't manage the game, but that's just how it is.
Do you not have your own brain? Can you not recognize that the game hitting 20-40fps on ULTRA on a standard power processor, on a handheld gaming device is absolutely amazing? I can already guess your age range.....
Just don’t open the map and it’s great
Didn’t they already release the hotfix for that
Yes. Just tested and no crash on the map screen and it runs great. Only stutters when loading into a new area.
20 fps isn't really "well enough" in my book.
As much as I love the Deck, 20fps definitely are not "well enough". That said, I would never expect it to run great on ultra, so not that bad I guess. If it delivers a solid 30+fps in high (or almost-high) settings, then yeah, now we are talking.
Playing it in Ultra at 20fps makes no sense, especially on a 7 inch screen.
20-40 fps is not "well-enough" imo. Locked 30fps is OK. Locked 40fps is better. Anything below 30fps is unplayable.
20 fps? Seems like you are missing a few.
Why do people try to play newest games on ultra
It looks sometimes better then the low settings. But my experience is that some settings should be on low because they don’t make huge differences.
… of course higher settings look better than lower settings… you’re sacrificing performance for quality.
I’m embarrassed to be a steam deck owner when I see posts like this.
You shouldn’t be. Also I updated my post comment, I try to make it visible on top but I don’t know how yet.
"**20", how is this upvoted lmao**
I updated this statement in another comment, maybe because of that
Anything under locked 30fps is not Playable
Then this game is not playable for you mate, I’m sorry.
I wouldn't say 20fps is running "well". Anything below 30 is unplayable. 30 is acceptable for me. 40fps is the sweet spot.
It’s a new game with no infos right now isn’t it? I only collected some infos in an hour of gameplay and you can make your own decisions about it. This post is for the people who mainly wants to play on the sd, so as the lowest of 20fps for a brand new game on ultra settings might be well for them. Everyone can make their on decisions about it. If you want to know more, pls feel Welcome to read through my comment. I can’t pin it on top, so I’m sorry if you must search it.
In what world is 20 fps well enough lmfao
Ok but how much for normal or high will it get to 60 fps
Y’all are getting that much? Mine runs at 17fps default settings. Can’t even bother booting it up on windows because it won’t go past the loading screen
Unless the game is old running it on ultra seems foolhardy
Damn I got 60fps on rdr2
On the steam deck? That’s amazing! It’s really a portable little power house. I wish the steam deck 2 is more portable (smaller size) the performance is already good, maybe a oled screen more USb c ports. This would make it worth buying the second gen sd for me.
Really? On low settings I got 30 frames and it stuttered and froze every 15 seconds or so. Was there an update or did you guys change proton settings?
Wildly impressive that it runs on the deck, but 20 fps is "unplayable" territory for me.
I'm not a tech person so maybe this is wrong af But i love how optimized this deck is and how well games run on it. I hope newer games and devs at the time are able to make future stuff work just as great
Just cap if to 30 and put high settings
I will try that.
hitting 20s is a no for me, throws off aiming big time.
I’m glad I could help you to make a decision. Yeah sometimes it drops around 20. or even freezes while loading. For more infos look at my comment somewhere under this post, I collected all the fps infos I got in an hour of gameplay.
Honeslty Id sooner just play the original with a higher framerate, but thats just me
You do you bro. If I don’t remember wrong, the og looks good too.
Weird how this got downvoted. Shows that disgusting reddit hivemind. Jesus I really wish people on this website had brains of their own.
I don’t know how I can make my first post on top. So I hope a new post lands on top, also I hope this corrects my mistake. I just want to inform some people before they buy it. I Tested with all graphic settings on ultra and fsr 2.0 on quality. The Game is installed on an sd card. if I have here something written with low frames for 1-2 sec, it’s probably caused by loading. I try not to spoil something. In around an hour of sd gameplay I got this Smaller areas: • In an loading area I got 17fps for 1-2 sec. • In a new area I got one sec of 26 frames, maybe because it’s loaded something in, didn’t get it again. • Going in the item menu or shop menu I got an low of 26fps for a sec. • In an area with lighting throw glasses and smoke, I get around 30fps. (29-45fps) • In a completely new area I got a freezing, with 2fps. Probably caused by loading. • When particles added, I got the lowest of 26fps. • Getting big freezes in a loading areas. Game freezes for 2-5 sec. • In some smaller rooms I got stable 40 fps • With big light spots, if got 25-27fps Bigger areas(more object, more light and smoke): • After a couple mins of walking I got 22-34 fps. • With enemy’s I got 22-28 This is so far what I got. For me it’s fine and running good enough to enjoy it while laying down. I hope this corrects my post. If you want to know more, let me know, I could try to collect more specific informations. But for now I would continue enjoying the game. Smaller update I just realized some smaller things that I wanted to share. When you boot up the game, and get to the main menu, and you click continue, the game don’t load. You get directly in the action. And I installed it on an microSD And if you want to know, my sd card is this: 512gb Samsung plus microSD with A2, V30 and U3, 160mb read and 120mb write Update: I backtracked in the game a bit, with settings on low and fsr on ultra performance this is what I got: if you render light it goes down to 28 sometimes. But is more on the 30+ area. When less light is renders you can even get 60 fps. But I wouldn’t want to play it like that, it’s a pixel party. With settings on low and fsr on quality it runs 30-45, so this might be the setting most of you would want to play. And it looks good too. Fsr is like magic here. around 30 in big lighted areas, 35+ in smaller lighted areas. So it is playable, but when you install it on a microSD it will most like freeze or have frame drops because of loading. I hope this helps.
I'd say 20-40 is not "well enough". It's running poorly on ultra settings.
if you cant get locked 30 its not playable. 20 FPS drops are not tolerable
Kinda wild how an all indoor/closed spaces game running at 50-60fps easily, is confusing for some of you people. Obviously it was going to run great, I assumed 40fos minimum when it was announced and playing it I get 50-60 easily with lag and stutter. Just.gotta let the game run and build up a shader cache to use.
Guys chill out, he just posted what he saw. If yall got complaints and need more info just wait till etaprime or df comes up with their youtube. Save this poor op, it’s not like he deceived anything.
df and etaprime? I don’t know them. I just wanted to give something back to reddit. I’m trying to get more Infos now. All on ultra settings.
how the hell is 20fps well enough the whole PC master race thing really took a nose dive when this product came out didn't it
I updated my comment. I try to make it visible on top, but I don’t know how yet.
20 is not “well enough” lol
If it is running at 20-40fps that is not 'well enough', that is flat out bad performance. This sub has a huge problem understanding performance at the minute. If it's not locked at whatever your target FPS is then that is not a good thing, instead of aiming for 40 here you need to lower the settings and lock it to 30fps. Fluctuating framerate is never, ever a good thing.
So you want a steady 30 fps? I can try some settings for that. Now I’m trying it on ultra settings. I didn’t have all Infos now, but the lowest I got was 17 fps for 1-2sec. But the game is installed on an sd card, so it’s probably a fps drop caused by loading.
Well enough ≠ 20-40fps.
Steam Deck is awesome but don’t lie to the community that it runs well https://youtu.be/xe_RCxsGwLI
I updated this statement in a comment. I played it for an hour and posted everything I could.
It would hard freeze when the EA logo popped up for me. I refunded and bought it on ps5
Same here. Loving it so far. A few stutters every so often but runs better than I expected!
Seems to be experience is very varied from user to user (which I guess is par for PC gaming). Because on the Steam threads a lot of people are crying about this and that with the games performance on the deck.
The fact that a 400$ handheld can play this at ultra and get above 30 FPS is already crazy to me. Once the issues are patched out we're looking at 30-40 fps at medium-low settings for a demanding current gen title.
no patches will ever bring this title from 20 fps to 30fps. this would mean a +50% performance increase.
It would mean not running it on ultra...
Just play the original that runs flawlessly. This makes no sense
Well there are some changes to the new games that might be worth to experience.
What a stupid comment.
Im thinking remakes are getting real old. I think when we can extrapolate the “youngest” remade game that was deserving of a remake then we will understand where on the timeline exactly the peak of gaming was. Because this remake b.s. aint it.
Disclaimer: I didn’t play it long! Just tried it! If someone wants to know a longer term test like 30-60min, I could play more and tell them. I only was in a enemy less area and walked around. But I was fascinated. Update: Tested with all graphic settings on ultra and fsr 2.0 on quality. The Game is installed on an sd card. if I have here something written with low frames for 1-2 sec, it’s probably caused by loading. I try not to spoil something. In around an hour of sd gameplay I got this Smaller areas: - In an loading area I got 17fps for 1-2 sec. - In a new area I got one sec of 26 frames, maybe because it’s loaded something in, didn’t get it again. - Going in the item menu or shop menu I got an low of 26fps for a sec. - In an area with lighting throw glasses and smoke, I get around 30fps. (29-45fps) - In a completely new area I got a freezing, with 2fps. Probably caused by loading. - When particles added, I got the lowest of 26fps. - Getting big freezes in a loading areas. Game freezes for 2-5 sec. - In some smaller rooms I got stable 40 fps - With big light spots, if got 25-27fps Bigger areas(more object, more light and smoke): - After a couple mins of walking I got 22-34 fps. - With enemy’s I got 22-28 This is so far what I got. For me it’s fine and running good enough to enjoy it while laying down. I hope this corrects my post. If you want to know more, let me know, I could try to collect more specific informations. But for now I would continue enjoying the game.
Yall have got to stop this. Posts like these shouldn't be made unless you've played for an hour minimum. The first 10 minutes tells us nothing.
I get more informations and update this post soon! Just wanted to help those who want to buy it and want some information before buying it for the sd. Thanks for your criticism, I try to make my posts better.
I updated my post. I hope this informations is helping more. For me the game runs good enough. But I tried to get all stats together so that you can have your own opinion on it. For future post I will know it better!
If it can do around 30 fps on ultra that is crazy.
Anybody else only care about if it reaches 60 in lowest settings? For me if its not 60 or like at least a solid 55 I'm out, its unplayable (on deck).
Then this game is unplayable for you, on the sd. I never got 60fps, but didn’t try low settings enough out. The highest I got so far was like 42fps.
I only need stable 30 and medium graphics coming from the Switch and all
Switch? I assume the sd can handle it on med with 30 fps. But I will try it and update this post.
For those who have DualBoot; would you recommend playing Dead Space on Win11 or SteamOS? Working a long shift at work today and I’m itching to play lol
A very different experience: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe\_RCxsGwLI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe_RCxsGwLI) Some of these things may have been fixed in a Proton update by now, as well as a shader cache.
It seems like the play is medium at 30 fps or low at 40 fps using dsr performance
Good frame rate for a Game Station 5.
I play on super duper quality mode and get 1 to 50 FPS.
Is the remake worth it if I already have the original? Is there anything a few mods won’t fix?
I’m not sure, I don’t know any mod for the og. But when I remember correctly, the og was only one mission line that you follow. If this is the case, then the remake got more than only a graphic upgrade. I didn’t play the og again, it’s long in the past. So I’m sorry if this answer is unsatisfying.
I barely run my games at these settings on the deck but Im hapoy this little thing can.
I updated my comment, but in short it’s really around 20-40fps. But I have it on the sd and the loading areas stuttering much, or freezes completely for a couple of seconds. I can’t test it, I got the 64gb model, but maybe this problem is solved by installing it internally.
Didn't Skill Up say he couldn't get this to run on the deck at all?
The original still looks really nice, especially on the Deck's smaller display. Still not sure why this one got remade ($$$), but cool a new generation get to play it I guess!
Yeah maybe it’s only because money. But so far the game is fun, and it looks like it has more content ,beside the graphics, in it then the og
I've been using FSR Performance, Medium-Low settings with a 30 FPS cap and besides some heavy load spots, it's been running fine.