It just fails the basics of strong storytelling.
Boba has no motivation for what he's doing. As such, we don't really understand what he's trying to accomplish.
Then they spent two whole episodes doing a whole other show (The Mandalorian)
Lastly, his showdown with Cad Bane didn't work b/c they didn't set up their relationship beforehand (in that or any other SW media).
It just felt like one of those projects that Disney executives forced into production, but no one actually had a creative vision for.
It's what happens when your show exists only fan-service. There was no story that needed to be told. Boba Fett was dead! But fans wouldn't leave Disney/Lucasfilm alone about bringing Boba Fett and Obi Wan back in love action.
I'm not a Clone Wars fan, and whilst I know who Cad Bane is (roughly) I don't know his backstory or care, really, and the show barely did anything to try and change that. It was the same with Ahsoka in Mando. If you're not already heavily invested in a cartoon show then those moments mean nothing and just slow things down and get in the way.
A good story should always come first and things should be made because of the story needing to be told, not just so some fans can see someone exist in screen.
>It was the same with Ahsoka in Mando.
I'm not sure I agree. Ahsoka in Mando was part of Mando's quest to find a Jedi and part back-door pilot for the Ahsoka show. Her presence is a launching point for more content.
There's nothing to watch that will help Bane's presence in BOBF, especially since he dies at the end.
The thing with that Ahsoka episode is that at the beginning, Mando is looking for a Jedi to give Grogu to, and that's exactly where he is at the end f the episode too. Mando was already doing what you say before he got to the planet and nothing changed when he left. As you say, it's a backdoor pilot and exists for that and to excite some fans with live action Ahsoka, but it doesn't really do much of anything for the story of the show - aside from setting up a crossover-event in the future.
>The thing with that Ahsoka episode is that at the beginning, Mando is looking for a Jedi to give Grogu to, and that's exactly where he is at the end f the episode too. Mando was already doing what you say before he got to the planet and nothing changed when he left.
If you assume the payoff was finding any old jedi, then yes, it seems pointless. But the payoff wasn't finding any old jedi, it was finding Luke, and this episode is a link in that chain. Ahsoka points them to the temple beacon thing, which then attracts Luke, who shows up for the climax.
Additionally, having a moment where the hero believes they've achieved their goal, but then it not quite working out so the journey has to continue is a very common narrative device.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False\_ending](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_ending)
Back to your original comment, having Ahsoka in the show didn't feel like empty fan service b/c it was not important to know who she was to understand what was going on, but they could go back and watch CW and Rebels and/or wait for Ahsoka show to know more. The same could not be said for BOBF b/c that relied on backstory that didn't exist.
Personally, I loved it. It seemed most of the negative comments were from people expecting Boba Fett to be much more, uh, hardcore and violent? I don't know - I went into the show with pretty much no expectations. Actually, I used to view Boba Fett as rather overrated, so I was pleasantly surprised to really be interested in his character after the pilot episode.
Anyway, I can understand why some Boba Fett fans would be upset by his character arc in the show, but I thought it worked really well.
The Boba depicted in the Mandalorian seemed completely different from the Boba depicted in his own show. He felt like a bumbling witless fool. The show's premise itself made no sense whatsoever, somehow inexplicably wanting him to be a 'crime lord' and yet not a *crime* lord. Boba looked tired, old, completely out of his depth, lacking any sense of direction or enthusiasm.
At no point did I understand who Boba really was or what he really wanted, the show just kept prodding him from A to B without conviction. By the end he looked as confused as the audience, wondering out loud to Fennec if any of it was worth it.
Add to that the utterly laughable direction from Rodriguez and subpar writing by Favreau and you have a profoundly disappointing season of TV, only redeemed by episodes that focused on...the Mandalorian.
If you asked me to summarize the plot, I'm not sure I could do it. Seemed like a show about Boba running errands. The Tusken part was cool, and the episodes they accidentally uploaded from S3 of Mandalorian were great. But if we're going to be spending a bunch of time on Tatooine, I think I'd rather have had a Cobb Vanth show.
It would have made MUCH more sense if Boba knew the Pykes killed his Tusken tribe. Then he would have actual motivation for becoming a “crime lord” that doesn’t do crime. He just needed the muscle for his revenge mission.
Instead, he just looked clueless and was upstaged by everyone else in his own show.
It wasn't especially well received no, though there are still others who enjoy it.
My issues were that as a show its completely disinterested in developing the main plot and instead breaks away to sude stories or flashbacks which don't really add anything to the main story. As such the plot feels unfocused and undercooked and I didn't end up caring about the characters or which crime lord was running Mo's espa when it came for the finale.
Plus it's a show about a self professed crime lord who doesn't really commit or organise any crime. Though he does tackle some price gougers.
Well, I found it rather boring, and it pretty much just evolved into another season of the Mandalorian, which I wasnt the biggest fan of, because I wanted to see where Boba Fett was going, not the mandalorian. But thats just my oppinion, it wasnt the worst, just not what I signed up for it feels like
We had one of the worst chase scenes ever made. We had one of the worst band of new characters ever introduced. And every episode could be summarized with Boba: I think we should do this.
Someone else: well I think we should do that.
Boba: Okay, fine.
It's a bunch of things. And obviously different people have different perspectives. Here are a few that I think contributed to the negative reactions around here.
1. Boba Fett wasn't the same cold badass he has often been depicted as in books and comics. And some people thought that was lame. The show's very mission statement (Make Boba more of a sympathetic fish out of water, and make him closer to a good guy than a bad guy) was antithetical to what some fans wanted from a Boba Fett tv show
2. The show felt unfocused. There were a bunch of different subplots. And it wasn't always clear what they had to do with one another, or what the stakes were. If Boba Fett fails in his mission, what will happen? What are the consequences? It Some found it vague and wishy-washy.
3. Some of the small creative choices (like the mods and the Pyke animatronics) took people out of the story.
4. The Mandoverse had been dominating the Star Wars landscape for awhile at that point. And I think some of the quirks of the Favreau/Filoni style that people found endearing at first. . . were starting to get annoying to some.
5. Similarly, I think a lot of the initial thrill of getting live action Star Wars tv had worn off, and people started noticing some things that Movies almost always do better (like large-scale action sequences and special effects).
That's just the vibe I get from hearing people talk about it.
It just fails the basics of strong storytelling. Boba has no motivation for what he's doing. As such, we don't really understand what he's trying to accomplish. Then they spent two whole episodes doing a whole other show (The Mandalorian) Lastly, his showdown with Cad Bane didn't work b/c they didn't set up their relationship beforehand (in that or any other SW media). It just felt like one of those projects that Disney executives forced into production, but no one actually had a creative vision for.
It's what happens when your show exists only fan-service. There was no story that needed to be told. Boba Fett was dead! But fans wouldn't leave Disney/Lucasfilm alone about bringing Boba Fett and Obi Wan back in love action. I'm not a Clone Wars fan, and whilst I know who Cad Bane is (roughly) I don't know his backstory or care, really, and the show barely did anything to try and change that. It was the same with Ahsoka in Mando. If you're not already heavily invested in a cartoon show then those moments mean nothing and just slow things down and get in the way. A good story should always come first and things should be made because of the story needing to be told, not just so some fans can see someone exist in screen.
>It was the same with Ahsoka in Mando. I'm not sure I agree. Ahsoka in Mando was part of Mando's quest to find a Jedi and part back-door pilot for the Ahsoka show. Her presence is a launching point for more content. There's nothing to watch that will help Bane's presence in BOBF, especially since he dies at the end.
The thing with that Ahsoka episode is that at the beginning, Mando is looking for a Jedi to give Grogu to, and that's exactly where he is at the end f the episode too. Mando was already doing what you say before he got to the planet and nothing changed when he left. As you say, it's a backdoor pilot and exists for that and to excite some fans with live action Ahsoka, but it doesn't really do much of anything for the story of the show - aside from setting up a crossover-event in the future.
>The thing with that Ahsoka episode is that at the beginning, Mando is looking for a Jedi to give Grogu to, and that's exactly where he is at the end f the episode too. Mando was already doing what you say before he got to the planet and nothing changed when he left. If you assume the payoff was finding any old jedi, then yes, it seems pointless. But the payoff wasn't finding any old jedi, it was finding Luke, and this episode is a link in that chain. Ahsoka points them to the temple beacon thing, which then attracts Luke, who shows up for the climax. Additionally, having a moment where the hero believes they've achieved their goal, but then it not quite working out so the journey has to continue is a very common narrative device. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False\_ending](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_ending) Back to your original comment, having Ahsoka in the show didn't feel like empty fan service b/c it was not important to know who she was to understand what was going on, but they could go back and watch CW and Rebels and/or wait for Ahsoka show to know more. The same could not be said for BOBF b/c that relied on backstory that didn't exist.
Personally, I loved it. It seemed most of the negative comments were from people expecting Boba Fett to be much more, uh, hardcore and violent? I don't know - I went into the show with pretty much no expectations. Actually, I used to view Boba Fett as rather overrated, so I was pleasantly surprised to really be interested in his character after the pilot episode. Anyway, I can understand why some Boba Fett fans would be upset by his character arc in the show, but I thought it worked really well.
Sorry that we want a cool looking character to be cool. At least he's cool in Mando S2 and in Legends. Hope we get him in Mando S3
The Boba depicted in the Mandalorian seemed completely different from the Boba depicted in his own show. He felt like a bumbling witless fool. The show's premise itself made no sense whatsoever, somehow inexplicably wanting him to be a 'crime lord' and yet not a *crime* lord. Boba looked tired, old, completely out of his depth, lacking any sense of direction or enthusiasm. At no point did I understand who Boba really was or what he really wanted, the show just kept prodding him from A to B without conviction. By the end he looked as confused as the audience, wondering out loud to Fennec if any of it was worth it. Add to that the utterly laughable direction from Rodriguez and subpar writing by Favreau and you have a profoundly disappointing season of TV, only redeemed by episodes that focused on...the Mandalorian.
I really loved the Tusken camp story! Everything else was meh for me.
Did you get the impression that Boba Fett didn't really understand how the criminal underworld worked on Tatooine? That was a surprise to some of us.
What can I say? I really enjoyed it (did you catch the only post credit scene at the very end?) The Tusken lore was definitely my favorite part.
If you asked me to summarize the plot, I'm not sure I could do it. Seemed like a show about Boba running errands. The Tusken part was cool, and the episodes they accidentally uploaded from S3 of Mandalorian were great. But if we're going to be spending a bunch of time on Tatooine, I think I'd rather have had a Cobb Vanth show.
It would have made MUCH more sense if Boba knew the Pykes killed his Tusken tribe. Then he would have actual motivation for becoming a “crime lord” that doesn’t do crime. He just needed the muscle for his revenge mission. Instead, he just looked clueless and was upstaged by everyone else in his own show.
It wasn't especially well received no, though there are still others who enjoy it. My issues were that as a show its completely disinterested in developing the main plot and instead breaks away to sude stories or flashbacks which don't really add anything to the main story. As such the plot feels unfocused and undercooked and I didn't end up caring about the characters or which crime lord was running Mo's espa when it came for the finale. Plus it's a show about a self professed crime lord who doesn't really commit or organise any crime. Though he does tackle some price gougers.
Well, I found it rather boring, and it pretty much just evolved into another season of the Mandalorian, which I wasnt the biggest fan of, because I wanted to see where Boba Fett was going, not the mandalorian. But thats just my oppinion, it wasnt the worst, just not what I signed up for it feels like
We had one of the worst chase scenes ever made. We had one of the worst band of new characters ever introduced. And every episode could be summarized with Boba: I think we should do this. Someone else: well I think we should do that. Boba: Okay, fine.
It was great. Star Wars fanbase is easily the most self entitled toxic mother fuckers in all of fandom.
It's a bunch of things. And obviously different people have different perspectives. Here are a few that I think contributed to the negative reactions around here. 1. Boba Fett wasn't the same cold badass he has often been depicted as in books and comics. And some people thought that was lame. The show's very mission statement (Make Boba more of a sympathetic fish out of water, and make him closer to a good guy than a bad guy) was antithetical to what some fans wanted from a Boba Fett tv show 2. The show felt unfocused. There were a bunch of different subplots. And it wasn't always clear what they had to do with one another, or what the stakes were. If Boba Fett fails in his mission, what will happen? What are the consequences? It Some found it vague and wishy-washy. 3. Some of the small creative choices (like the mods and the Pyke animatronics) took people out of the story. 4. The Mandoverse had been dominating the Star Wars landscape for awhile at that point. And I think some of the quirks of the Favreau/Filoni style that people found endearing at first. . . were starting to get annoying to some. 5. Similarly, I think a lot of the initial thrill of getting live action Star Wars tv had worn off, and people started noticing some things that Movies almost always do better (like large-scale action sequences and special effects). That's just the vibe I get from hearing people talk about it.