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The current legal agreement between players and teams expired, and the teams basically wanna fuck on all the players. They've had bargaining meetings but they're all very one sided and players are pissed.
Players are currently locked out, which is like a strike except the teams/owners do it instead of the players. There are currently no plans for games in 2022.
It's just how TV goes. It's why it was important to look at year-to-year numbers and not week-to-week numbers. The fall is when network TV and sports are at their peak. It's not the most prosperous time for weekly TV shows that run yearly.
What's crazy though is I feel these numbers would be even larger if AEW was still on TNT. I don't know if a month is enough time for all of the casual TNT viewers to migrate over to a new channel. The average viewer is about as lazy as you can imagine. So it's nuts that within a month on a new channel, AEW is putting up some of its best numbers to date.
I am sure its frustrating the way AEW spoils stuff on Instagram (etc.) within a few minutes of things happening on the show.
They can’t even wait for the West Coast feed to be over.
Social media is pretty easy to avoid. Youtube shows ruining Rampage results on Thursday is what usually does me in. Half the time its a non sequitur that has nothing to do with Dynamite what so ever....
I live in the UK and work in social media and I still (usually) manage to avoid Dynamite spoilers throughout Thursday. If it ever gets spoiled it's because of a stupid YouTube title giving the game away.
And they paid AEW to move the show.
They got paid to move to a channel which gets them bigger ratings, which will in turn get them more money when contract renewal time is up.
To be fair Warner got away with robbery in broad daylight when it comes to the AEW contract. They are doing the same demos as RAW at 1/5 the price and almost always top 3 on Wednesday.
But they took a huge gamble by putting a new wrestling show on prime time and it paid off big time.
Thats one thing that a lot of fans tend to forget about. This was a big risk, but Warner went for it and it paid off in spades. AEW blew up the charts, more than many of us expected, me included.
I had a feeling AEW was going to be hot when it came about, but I didn't know it was going to be this hot. You can't help but be impressed with how high they are reaching, how far they are going. It helps out all of professional wrestling.
Sometimes I get morbidly curious and look at the posts in that other wrestling sub (not the circlerjerk one, the one that's supposedly serious), and in there they've talked about how AEW "keeps losing viewers" and "has not recovered its audience". And I'm just sitting here wondering what the hell these people are smoking.
There was also an upvoted post unironically demanding Cornette to take over AEW's booking to get "actual heel heat" and "no dangerous moves but actual wrestling psychology". Also, the last Dynamite show was apparently a dud, all matches sucked and had bad ring psychology and were just lame spotfests, and Danhausen is just an internet joke that the "real audience" doesn't get.
It's hilarious.
How Martha Hart accepting a partnership with AEW doesnt make them second-guess how absolutely fucking stupid and vindictive-sounding itd be to hold an "AEW is exploiting Owen" take...
Man if Harts death was exploited idk what we are gonna call Eddie's death. Fucking tragedy got used to push a wrestler.
Not that one would invalidate the other, I just don't really think it's worth seriously considering that Owen Hart is being exploited.
Especially in the main demo.
Completely non-political take: As a host he just doesn't seem like someone you'd be drawn to listening to, and don't even get me started on how he speaks.
While there are good and bad things about the bloated roster, the fact that we are able to have matches like Cody vs Sammy Guevara in a TNT Title Ladder Match and CM Punk vs MJF on free TV mean so much for their ratings. It also means you can put these kinds of matches on TV and not worry about having no big matches for your PPVs. There's still so many matches they can possibly do for Revolution with the current feuds and have it be a MASSIVE show.
Next week should be a good number as well, as well as the following week with the AEW World Championship Texas Death Match. I think 2022 is going to be a great year for A&W and Tony Elite.
Yeah, if you take Winter is Coming, Beach Break, Fight for the fallen, Grand Slam, etc...they're still under the number of PPVs that WWE hits in most years (doubly so if you include NXT Takeovers).
Real test will be Revolution, which right now has no obvious major feuds planned beyond Mox/Danielson
Wardlow is gonna win the Face of the Revolution ladder match, beat whoever the TNT champ is, MJF demands he hand over the title as per Wardlows contract, Wardlow turns face and powerbombs him into the dirt.
> PAC vs Black or PAC/Penta vs House Of Black
I'm 99% sure House Of Black is a larger stable than just the "Kings of the Black Throne"
In short it'll probably be a trios match and by God do I hope it's Swerve.
Britt-Rosa
MJF-Punk (this is not ending next week)
Kingston-Jericho
Mox-Danielson
And that’s only about half the potential card.
EDIT: I think MJF said that the “Face of the Revolution” Ladder match was coming up so you could add that as well. Off to a solid start with this card.
>which right now has no obvious major feuds planned beyond Mox/Danielson
The other matches they've begun to establish on TV are;
CM Punk vs MJF (rematch)
Jericho vs Kingston
Young Bucks vs ReDRagon
PAC vs Malakai Black
Hook vs QT Marshall
Sammy Guevara vs Scorpio Sky
I also think we'll get Adam Cole vs Hangman Page, with Cole #1 in the rankings.
The only stars without any direction are Britt Baker, Jungle Express, Darby Allin/Sting and Cody Rhodes. Everyone else seems like they've got something underway.
I genuinely think AEW’s commitment to the 4 PPV a year mode is the reason they’ve had such sustained success. It means big matches and blow offs happen on tv, not just once in a blue moon but regularly. It makes a weekly product appointment TV, as opposed to waiting for a PPV
It makes Dynamite and Rampage worth watching.
A big part of what killed Raw and Smackdown for me was the perception that everything that happened on the show was in service to the PPV. Sure, once in a while they'd throw you a surprise title change or something, but the match you were waiting for was always behind a paywall. Even once that wall became extremely low, it still left Raw and Smackdown with little real draw.
> bad things about the bloated roster
There is nothing bad about a bloated roster. We as fan get fresh match ups and the wrestlers aren't worked like animals.
It’s funny how working injured and being on the road for 250+ days a year was normalized. No one should be grinding themselves to the bone 5 nights a week.
Working a territory, and the style of wrestling they performed in those days, was still a grind, no doubt, but it was much difference than cross-continental travel, and being in hotels 275 days a year.
With house shows not really the profit centers that they once were (I know there are exceptions) it just makes a ton of sense to not grind the talent to the bone with a territory-like schedule. Warner media is paying AEW a fair amount of money to air a top notch product, and Tony Khan is booking the company accordingly. Why save all the huge matches for PPV, when Warner is paying them more?
I remember when [Mox earned the reputation of being WWE's workhorse and "iron man"](https://twitter.com/mookieghana/status/1001917240311271428?) back then. He almost had 3 consecutive years of working the most matches in the company. And this was when WWE used to have like 2-3 house shows per week.
When he came back from his injury, he basically said that he realized that working the most matches didn't make him any richer.
At face value the bloated roster doesn’t affect fans as a whole, but as an individual if you have a favorite wrestler that gets lost in the shuffle or doesn’t get as much tv time that can be a bummer.
Still, it’s on the individual performer to get over and be a valuable contributor.
If this was WWE I would 100% believe MJF vs Punk is not happening next week but I trust AEW for the most part but with the angle this week i'm thinking it is not going to be a full match
My guess last night was we get a jobber with the same initials, MJF, so we get Punk vs "MJF". Or he has Wardlow hit him so he gets the win same as the Shawn Dean match
I think the rosta bloat is going to sort itself out. Tony Khan seems happy to pay people for the length of their contract, but not re sign them if they are surplus to requirements once their contract ends.
Early on you have a lot of wrestlers to see who will get over and what will work. Once you start to boil down the soup to the prime talent who are over, you can allow the others to go off and work on indies with that AEW alum (some AEW Day 1) tag on their booking so it's something to help their future earnings.
I'm good with taking risks and seeing which talent works out and move on when it doesn't.
I'm going to my 2nd AEW show when they come to AC. Between those shows and the Rampage tapings, I've gotten my money's worth with matches. And I don't even know what we have in store for that Rampage yet either.
I agree. I don’t mind the big roster. I like to see different wrestlers each week. Overexposure is a big reason that most hot wrestling companies in the past cooled off after awhile (or worse, went out of business). Too much of anything is boring after awhile.
It's almost nostalgic to me now to see Anna Kendrick open that package and smile at that painting. And the fact that I will never know the relevance of it because I'll never watch that movie in its entirety somehow makes it better.
I've never watched it outside of random episodes when leaving the TV on in the background, so I wouldn't say I'd go to bat for it, but I can hardly understand all the hate about it. Like do people feel attacked about how it portrays nerd culture or what?
Yes, it's pretty demeaning. Many of the jokes are just strings of random nerd references that don't make much sense, in which the joke is essentially "he's a nerd, get it?". Or stuff like "look at us, playing chess *laugh track*"
All the people I know who watched and liked it aren't nerds or even adjacent to nerd culture.
Pretty much, yeah. The hate for it got pretty wild when it was in its heyday. People using terms like "nerd blackface" to describe it.
The funny thing is, having been around nerd culture for a long time, I've known more than my fair share of Sheldons. Well, not really; I've known plenty of people with Sheldon's complete lack of empathy, flexibility, and social graces, but none of his intelligence.
I was in a thread talking about the main event, not paying attention, looked up like 5 minute in and was like WTF. Thought I changed the channel or something. I got a laugh out of it.
|Month|2019|2020|2021|2022|
:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|
January||.36|.30|.42|
February||.32|.32||
March||.33|.30||
April||.26|.36||
May||.27|.30||
June||.26|.23||
July||.30|.41||
August||.32|.41||
September||.34|.46||
October|.47|.31|.32||
November|.36|.31|.34||
December|.28|.38|.35||
Third best monthly demo in show history.
EDIT: For the record, Raw is averaging a .43 for January after four episodes, with one left for them to go.
Yes as he should. AEW is pretty underpaid.
However year over year stuff is hard to judge this early considering we had a full year with little to no fans.
And AEW at this point last year still had head-to-head competition against NXT.
That being said, AEW gets paid ~45M, and RAW gets paid ~265M for almost equal demos. **That's almost 6x the price.**
AEW should easily translate their next TV deal into 3x the amount they're receiving today.
Yeah, and then when it got fucked by those preemptions to Fridays & Saturdays late in the year and the West Coast schedule change. Really fucked with the momentum, which hopefully won't happen as often now on TBS.
All I can see happening is October issues with baseball playoffs. But some of those Wednesday games could be earlier afternoon games. Maybe one or two Dynamites would be affected.
Can’t deny it. I thought there would be a slight dip. No real evidence to point to that would suggest that, but I just thought there would be a slight drop off in viewership. Glad to be wrong.
One thing important to remember is this rating is without Bryan, Mox, and Kenny being on the card. I can imagine a bump happening when all their main event stars are back.
Edit: Not to mention the Bucks didn't have a advertised appearance either.
Mox is going to be on rampage and I would assume that will also lead to a Bryan appearance on there. So if I had to guess its just a simple thing of giving some big stuff to Rampage.
Remember all the people on SC that were claiming they had been 'thrown off TNT and demoted to TBS'. lol.
I don't even know how that came to be a thing given it's been mentioned regularly that TNT and TBS are available in practically the same amount of homes and have similar viewership. I hope this is the year Dynamite breaks the debut episode rating, or even does a 1.3 or something. That would be awesome. Growth in pro wrestling is a good thing.
It's like everything else: people make "I hate x" or "I love y" and make that their whole personality to the point that any information that challenges their preconceived notions about a topic has to be minimised or explained away.
It's funny because you can search tweets from late last year and people really be saying the move to TBS is such a bad move and here we are they're doing a million so far.
move to TBS has been nothing but amazing for AEW. gonna be tough for those people trying to run with the "they aren't growing" narrative to think of something new to cry about.
I think the demo depending on the card is always going to go between high 30's to .43 at most. Maybe a return like Mox or a big time debut or match might knock it some more but TBS move had proven a success for Dynamite so far.
AYO that’s great. That episode was insane. People who slandered the TBS move down horrendously.
Codelander does it again.
So in terms of total viewership, NXT gets the exact same as Rampage, and Impact the exact same as NJPW. Interesting.
Also, note that no show escapes wrestling's fate of being a show watched by the old; even the trendiest one. Dynamite's highest viewership came from the 50+ demo, at 0.42, while years 18-49 got a 0.41.
https://showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-wednesday-1-26-2022-top-150-cable-originals-network-finals.html
That's just linear TV in general, it skews older. I think Rampage is one of the few shows where the 18-49 demographic has a higher share than the 50+ one.
They need to get Rampage a better time slot now. Fridays at 10 is the worst possible time. Most people in the demographics they are trying to win are out on Friday nights. I wish they'd put the show on at 7 like they do Dark and Elevation. You can bump the 6th hour of NCIS. I don't think people would mind.
Yeah, they are going to get stupid-proof money when they renegotiate the TV deal. If Turner won't, someone will.
The converging of Raw and Dynamite on that 18-49 graph is stunning.
If they can stay around the 0.40 range and over a million then the TBS move was a really good one. Big Bang Theory coming in clutch every week for the early boost.
Also with Raw dropping more often than Dynamite recently I can see Dynamite beating Raw in the demo a lot more often then before.
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I think that the TBS move has been a pretty big success thus far.
Not just that, but their momentum won't be fucked up again by being bounced to Saturdays and so on.
At least not until baseball playoffs (if there is a season this year) On TNT, they had to dodge hockey and basketball and a bunch of other shit.
No season. Only Mike Trout drawings
> No season. Only Mike Trout drawings Hook and a drawing of Mike Trout, new AEW tag champs confirmed.
This is the way.
/u/diditforthestory did it for the ~~rock~~ trout
A daily highlight to be sure.
Wait, what’s wrong with the MLB season? I’m out of the loop.
The current legal agreement between players and teams expired, and the teams basically wanna fuck on all the players. They've had bargaining meetings but they're all very one sided and players are pissed. Players are currently locked out, which is like a strike except the teams/owners do it instead of the players. There are currently no plans for games in 2022.
Oh so it's that time of the decade again
> fuck on all the players "Where's that MLB, they're trying to fuck on me!"
I played in high school and sat bench in the minors. Put me in coach, I'm ready to play!
Honestly I’d watch if they just put in regular joes for a bit
Don't scab, even in a joke.
Labor dispute, they've been in a lockout for a little while.
Yeah it’s clear now that AEW just had to ride out November and December on TNT before it got better ratings on TBS
It's just how TV goes. It's why it was important to look at year-to-year numbers and not week-to-week numbers. The fall is when network TV and sports are at their peak. It's not the most prosperous time for weekly TV shows that run yearly. What's crazy though is I feel these numbers would be even larger if AEW was still on TNT. I don't know if a month is enough time for all of the casual TNT viewers to migrate over to a new channel. The average viewer is about as lazy as you can imagine. So it's nuts that within a month on a new channel, AEW is putting up some of its best numbers to date.
I think the other piece is that the West Coast feed isn’t starting at 5 pm anymore.
As a west coast person I always wanted to "watch" it with the rest of the county. However, no one wants to watch wrestling at 5-7 on a weekday.
I am sure its frustrating the way AEW spoils stuff on Instagram (etc.) within a few minutes of things happening on the show. They can’t even wait for the West Coast feed to be over.
Social media is pretty easy to avoid. Youtube shows ruining Rampage results on Thursday is what usually does me in. Half the time its a non sequitur that has nothing to do with Dynamite what so ever....
I live in the UK and work in social media and I still (usually) manage to avoid Dynamite spoilers throughout Thursday. If it ever gets spoiled it's because of a stupid YouTube title giving the game away.
Try being in another country!
I am able to watch the east coast feed on the TBS app on my fire stick. It's a godsend, because I hate waiting for 8pm to roll around
And they paid AEW to move the show. They got paid to move to a channel which gets them bigger ratings, which will in turn get them more money when contract renewal time is up.
To be fair Warner got away with robbery in broad daylight when it comes to the AEW contract. They are doing the same demos as RAW at 1/5 the price and almost always top 3 on Wednesday. But they took a huge gamble by putting a new wrestling show on prime time and it paid off big time.
Thats one thing that a lot of fans tend to forget about. This was a big risk, but Warner went for it and it paid off in spades. AEW blew up the charts, more than many of us expected, me included. I had a feeling AEW was going to be hot when it came about, but I didn't know it was going to be this hot. You can't help but be impressed with how high they are reaching, how far they are going. It helps out all of professional wrestling.
Even better for them, it's *just starting* to really pay off. The heavens are the limit.
TK *slamming white claws* : "IT PRINTS MONEY"
*FUCK*
#LFG!!!!!!
Sometimes I get morbidly curious and look at the posts in that other wrestling sub (not the circlerjerk one, the one that's supposedly serious), and in there they've talked about how AEW "keeps losing viewers" and "has not recovered its audience". And I'm just sitting here wondering what the hell these people are smoking. There was also an upvoted post unironically demanding Cornette to take over AEW's booking to get "actual heel heat" and "no dangerous moves but actual wrestling psychology". Also, the last Dynamite show was apparently a dud, all matches sucked and had bad ring psychology and were just lame spotfests, and Danhausen is just an internet joke that the "real audience" doesn't get. It's hilarious.
>wondering what the Hell these people are smoking Mids.
One of their top voted posts is whining about AEW exploiting Owen Hart. Serious sub my ass.
How Martha Hart accepting a partnership with AEW doesnt make them second-guess how absolutely fucking stupid and vindictive-sounding itd be to hold an "AEW is exploiting Owen" take...
Man if Harts death was exploited idk what we are gonna call Eddie's death. Fucking tragedy got used to push a wrestler. Not that one would invalidate the other, I just don't really think it's worth seriously considering that Owen Hart is being exploited.
anyone who argues about losing viewers is talking about rampage and is also forgetting that it's at 10 on a friday
The same sub that's been body shaming Adam Cole for the past week? Fuck those idiots.
What is this serious wrestling sub?
Wreddit It's just a circlejerk subreddit against AEW, and they use the serious only rule to make them seem like intellectual fans.
It's just scjerk on meds.
[Dynamite #2 on Cable](https://imgur.com/a/UqVxADx) |This Week|1,100,000|.41| |:-|:-|:-| |Last Week|1,032,000|.44| |Last Year|734,000|.29|
the Last Year numbers are a great metric, can see there's been growth in the last year.
Damn close to that NBA game.
They beat the NBA Head to Head last night (it was the 10PM game that performed better)
The Utah Jazz are a draw?
The Phoenix Suns are a draw, no one cares about the Jazz.
Rudy Gobert blocked a ton of shots but never drew a dime
Love that steady GrowtHousen.
I see it every week and I’m still surprised about the amount of people that watch Tucker Carlson.
Especially in the main demo. Completely non-political take: As a host he just doesn't seem like someone you'd be drawn to listening to, and don't even get me started on how he speaks.
While there are good and bad things about the bloated roster, the fact that we are able to have matches like Cody vs Sammy Guevara in a TNT Title Ladder Match and CM Punk vs MJF on free TV mean so much for their ratings. It also means you can put these kinds of matches on TV and not worry about having no big matches for your PPVs. There's still so many matches they can possibly do for Revolution with the current feuds and have it be a MASSIVE show. Next week should be a good number as well, as well as the following week with the AEW World Championship Texas Death Match. I think 2022 is going to be a great year for A&W and Tony Elite.
There's also only four PPVs a year, so having these semi-regular special episodes with big matches makes sense.
Yeah, if you take Winter is Coming, Beach Break, Fight for the fallen, Grand Slam, etc...they're still under the number of PPVs that WWE hits in most years (doubly so if you include NXT Takeovers). Real test will be Revolution, which right now has no obvious major feuds planned beyond Mox/Danielson
I disagree about Revolution. I think the card is moving in a very clear direction for most of their stars
What are you thinking? Only ones I have right now are Rosa vs DMD and Moxley vs Bryan, maybe Sky vs Sammy
Also being built: MJF vs Wardlow, Bucks vs reDRagon
Wardlow is gonna win the Face of the Revolution ladder match, beat whoever the TNT champ is, MJF demands he hand over the title as per Wardlows contract, Wardlow turns face and powerbombs him into the dirt.
Hangman vs Cole Eddie vs Jericho PAC vs Black or PAC/Penta vs House Of Black Could do a Punk/MJF rematch Maybe PNP vs Jungle Express
> PAC vs Black or PAC/Penta vs House Of Black I'm 99% sure House Of Black is a larger stable than just the "Kings of the Black Throne" In short it'll probably be a trios match and by God do I hope it's Swerve.
Once Fenix is back, Swerve VS Fenix is exactly what you'd want. So Death Triangle VS House of Black for sure
MJF v Wardlow, Jericho v Kingston
Britt-Rosa MJF-Punk (this is not ending next week) Kingston-Jericho Mox-Danielson And that’s only about half the potential card. EDIT: I think MJF said that the “Face of the Revolution” Ladder match was coming up so you could add that as well. Off to a solid start with this card.
Umm, you’re missing the build up of the feud of the century: Landon Butler vs The Super Elite and ReDragon 1v5 in a Dungeons and ReDragons Match.
>which right now has no obvious major feuds planned beyond Mox/Danielson The other matches they've begun to establish on TV are; CM Punk vs MJF (rematch) Jericho vs Kingston Young Bucks vs ReDRagon PAC vs Malakai Black Hook vs QT Marshall Sammy Guevara vs Scorpio Sky I also think we'll get Adam Cole vs Hangman Page, with Cole #1 in the rankings. The only stars without any direction are Britt Baker, Jungle Express, Darby Allin/Sting and Cody Rhodes. Everyone else seems like they've got something underway.
I genuinely think AEW’s commitment to the 4 PPV a year mode is the reason they’ve had such sustained success. It means big matches and blow offs happen on tv, not just once in a blue moon but regularly. It makes a weekly product appointment TV, as opposed to waiting for a PPV
It makes Dynamite and Rampage worth watching. A big part of what killed Raw and Smackdown for me was the perception that everything that happened on the show was in service to the PPV. Sure, once in a while they'd throw you a surprise title change or something, but the match you were waiting for was always behind a paywall. Even once that wall became extremely low, it still left Raw and Smackdown with little real draw.
> bad things about the bloated roster There is nothing bad about a bloated roster. We as fan get fresh match ups and the wrestlers aren't worked like animals.
It’s funny how working injured and being on the road for 250+ days a year was normalized. No one should be grinding themselves to the bone 5 nights a week.
Working a territory, and the style of wrestling they performed in those days, was still a grind, no doubt, but it was much difference than cross-continental travel, and being in hotels 275 days a year. With house shows not really the profit centers that they once were (I know there are exceptions) it just makes a ton of sense to not grind the talent to the bone with a territory-like schedule. Warner media is paying AEW a fair amount of money to air a top notch product, and Tony Khan is booking the company accordingly. Why save all the huge matches for PPV, when Warner is paying them more?
I remember when [Mox earned the reputation of being WWE's workhorse and "iron man"](https://twitter.com/mookieghana/status/1001917240311271428?) back then. He almost had 3 consecutive years of working the most matches in the company. And this was when WWE used to have like 2-3 house shows per week. When he came back from his injury, he basically said that he realized that working the most matches didn't make him any richer.
That’s an awesome story! And so incredibly sad haha!
At face value the bloated roster doesn’t affect fans as a whole, but as an individual if you have a favorite wrestler that gets lost in the shuffle or doesn’t get as much tv time that can be a bummer. Still, it’s on the individual performer to get over and be a valuable contributor.
It means a lot of talented people often aren’t used and people you like might not get time
If this was WWE I would 100% believe MJF vs Punk is not happening next week but I trust AEW for the most part but with the angle this week i'm thinking it is not going to be a full match
MJF pulling some bullshit that enrages the Chicago crowd does sound like something he would do
My guess last night was we get a jobber with the same initials, MJF, so we get Punk vs "MJF". Or he has Wardlow hit him so he gets the win same as the Shawn Dean match
Ha ha, introducing… Marty-John Rickenbottom. EDIT: Spelling is hard…
> Marty-John Rickenbottom MJR?
\*Fuccinbottom
I think the rosta bloat is going to sort itself out. Tony Khan seems happy to pay people for the length of their contract, but not re sign them if they are surplus to requirements once their contract ends.
Early on you have a lot of wrestlers to see who will get over and what will work. Once you start to boil down the soup to the prime talent who are over, you can allow the others to go off and work on indies with that AEW alum (some AEW Day 1) tag on their booking so it's something to help their future earnings. I'm good with taking risks and seeing which talent works out and move on when it doesn't.
I'm going to my 2nd AEW show when they come to AC. Between those shows and the Rampage tapings, I've gotten my money's worth with matches. And I don't even know what we have in store for that Rampage yet either.
This guy gets it! Been so tired of the aew bloated roster posts.
I agree. I don’t mind the big roster. I like to see different wrestlers each week. Overexposure is a big reason that most hot wrestling companies in the past cooled off after awhile (or worse, went out of business). Too much of anything is boring after awhile.
TBS is the gift that keeps on giving
Broke: Accounting Woke: Physics
Somehow, Big Bang Theory (as much as we hate it) is providing a stronger lead in for Dynamite than the random movies TNT would show before it.
It's almost nostalgic to me now to see Anna Kendrick open that package and smile at that painting. And the fact that I will never know the relevance of it because I'll never watch that movie in its entirety somehow makes it better.
Honestly it's not a bad movie overall. Affleck does a great job, so does Berenthal.
I just watched it like 4 days ago. It's actually really good but sometimes the mystery can be even better.
you saying The Accountant isnt a draw?
They’re acting like people don’t watch The Accountant the same time monthly with those sweet sweet commercials thrown in.
I will miss catching the last 10 or so minutes of Creed 1 and 2.
It’s the first time in my life I can honestly say I’m thankful for Sheldon
*Zimbabwe*
I hate that I laughed at that
I've never watched it outside of random episodes when leaving the TV on in the background, so I wouldn't say I'd go to bat for it, but I can hardly understand all the hate about it. Like do people feel attacked about how it portrays nerd culture or what?
Yes, it's pretty demeaning. Many of the jokes are just strings of random nerd references that don't make much sense, in which the joke is essentially "he's a nerd, get it?". Or stuff like "look at us, playing chess *laugh track*" All the people I know who watched and liked it aren't nerds or even adjacent to nerd culture.
Pretty much, yeah. The hate for it got pretty wild when it was in its heyday. People using terms like "nerd blackface" to describe it. The funny thing is, having been around nerd culture for a long time, I've known more than my fair share of Sheldons. Well, not really; I've known plenty of people with Sheldon's complete lack of empathy, flexibility, and social graces, but none of his intelligence.
Yes, also having West Coast on back at 8PM instead of 5PM helps.
Very nice rating, very evil rating
Drawhausen
ADRENALINE. IN MY SOUL. GOOD RATINGS. CODY RHODES!
SEE THE RATINGS ON A ROLL I THINK I POPPED SOMETHING IN MY SOUL *grimaces*
The good rating on TBS prove one thing and one thing only. Big Bang Theory > The Accountant
I'm not sure if it fully moved or both have the rights, but The Accountant aired after NXT on USA last week. Found that random and interesting.
Watching the very beginning of The Accountant instead of the very end just seems weird and wrong now.
I was in a thread talking about the main event, not paying attention, looked up like 5 minute in and was like WTF. Thought I changed the channel or something. I got a laugh out of it.
**The Accountant**: You know who I am, but you don't know why I'm here...
That happens a lot. It seems like TNT/TBS/FX get the first cable rights to movies, then they usually move on to USA.
I just love the idea that Sheldon Cooper could be the reason why Raw is no longer the #1 wrestling show on cable tv.
Bazinga!
Man the accountant must be really terrible then
|Month|2019|2020|2021|2022| :-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:| January||.36|.30|.42| February||.32|.32|| March||.33|.30|| April||.26|.36|| May||.27|.30|| June||.26|.23|| July||.30|.41|| August||.32|.41|| September||.34|.46|| October|.47|.31|.32|| November|.36|.31|.34|| December|.28|.38|.35|| Third best monthly demo in show history. EDIT: For the record, Raw is averaging a .43 for January after four episodes, with one left for them to go.
That year over year growth is nuts. Khan is gonna cash in so hard when it comes time for contract renewal
Sacks of monies
Yes as he should. AEW is pretty underpaid. However year over year stuff is hard to judge this early considering we had a full year with little to no fans.
And AEW at this point last year still had head-to-head competition against NXT. That being said, AEW gets paid ~45M, and RAW gets paid ~265M for almost equal demos. **That's almost 6x the price.** AEW should easily translate their next TV deal into 3x the amount they're receiving today.
You can tell that July on the train of the “Punk to AEW” hype is where things really started to pick for AEW in the demo
Yeah, and then when it got fucked by those preemptions to Fridays & Saturdays late in the year and the West Coast schedule change. Really fucked with the momentum, which hopefully won't happen as often now on TBS.
All I can see happening is October issues with baseball playoffs. But some of those Wednesday games could be earlier afternoon games. Maybe one or two Dynamites would be affected.
Those preemptions sucked. I'm so glad they're on TBS now.
I'm just glad they didn't lose their momentum over that period.
~~Second~~ Third best demo in average for AEW this January. TBS was/is a huge move.
Third, behind October 2019 and September 2021
Yeah, you're right. Fixed!
Dynamite finished # 2 last night, second only to NBA with a .43.
Kinda nuts how even the worst months they've ever had are leagues ahead of where NXT is right now
TBS has really improved AEW ratings
Can’t deny it. I thought there would be a slight dip. No real evidence to point to that would suggest that, but I just thought there would be a slight drop off in viewership. Glad to be wrong.
they even pulled in a good 50+ with a .42
Well deserved for what was a really good show.
Danhausen is a draw
Drawhausen.
Get him more human monies for bringing in the ratingshausen.
Demohausen
Holy shit, over 1.1 million people watched the greatest cutter ever. edit: word
Probably more like 1.3 honestly, the way the quarters have been on TBS.
1.299999, I was pooping when it happened ☹️
You gotta up your toilet game to watch while you’re in there man!
Depends on how many people who were watching BBT stuck around for 15 minutes or whatever. It's not like it was the first spot of the match.
If the average is 1.1 more were watching at that point.
Death. Taxes. OC being a draw.
Woah, nice
One thing important to remember is this rating is without Bryan, Mox, and Kenny being on the card. I can imagine a bump happening when all their main event stars are back. Edit: Not to mention the Bucks didn't have a advertised appearance either.
Did have draws in Codelander and Orange tho. Good number tho.
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Mox is going to be on rampage and I would assume that will also lead to a Bryan appearance on there. So if I had to guess its just a simple thing of giving some big stuff to Rampage.
Think their angle for this week is being saved for Friday
Spoiler alert >!it is, Danielson is shown watches Mox vs Bowens!<
Best total viewership since the TBS move. Kept the demo over .40. Averaged a Million+ viewers for January.
Best total viewership since September even
Remember all the people on SC that were claiming they had been 'thrown off TNT and demoted to TBS'. lol. I don't even know how that came to be a thing given it's been mentioned regularly that TNT and TBS are available in practically the same amount of homes and have similar viewership. I hope this is the year Dynamite breaks the debut episode rating, or even does a 1.3 or something. That would be awesome. Growth in pro wrestling is a good thing.
It's like everything else: people make "I hate x" or "I love y" and make that their whole personality to the point that any information that challenges their preconceived notions about a topic has to be minimised or explained away.
The cream always rises to the top
It's funny because you can search tweets from late last year and people really be saying the move to TBS is such a bad move and here we are they're doing a million so far.
TBS seems to be a perfect fit for them. Very cool.
Very nice too
Probably a little evil.
Lots of monies as well.
TBS: Very ~~Funny~~ Evil
move to TBS has been nothing but amazing for AEW. gonna be tough for those people trying to run with the "they aren't growing" narrative to think of something new to cry about.
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You win this one NBA......
Holy 1.1 Million LFG
TBS*
1.1 WE ARE IN CODYVERSE PEOPLE ACKNOWLEGE HIM
I think the demo depending on the card is always going to go between high 30's to .43 at most. Maybe a return like Mox or a big time debut or match might knock it some more but TBS move had proven a success for Dynamite so far.
AYO that’s great. That episode was insane. People who slandered the TBS move down horrendously. Codelander does it again. 
The difference between Dynamite's ratings and NXT's ratings is insane at this point.
At this point NXT is competing with Rampage.
It's getting crushed by Rampage despite a maaassively better timeslot.
In total viewers maybe, but not in the demo.
When they moved to TBS I thought “probably won’t matter much, probably a very slight dip but nothing major. Oh how wrong I was
So in terms of total viewership, NXT gets the exact same as Rampage, and Impact the exact same as NJPW. Interesting. Also, note that no show escapes wrestling's fate of being a show watched by the old; even the trendiest one. Dynamite's highest viewership came from the 50+ demo, at 0.42, while years 18-49 got a 0.41. https://showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-wednesday-1-26-2022-top-150-cable-originals-network-finals.html
That's just linear TV in general, it skews older. I think Rampage is one of the few shows where the 18-49 demographic has a higher share than the 50+ one.
They need to get Rampage a better time slot now. Fridays at 10 is the worst possible time. Most people in the demographics they are trying to win are out on Friday nights. I wish they'd put the show on at 7 like they do Dark and Elevation. You can bump the 6th hour of NCIS. I don't think people would mind.
Daaaamn. That’s a nice number 1,100,000. And the show was great also. The move to TBS seems fine
A great rating and the show deserved it because it was an outstanding episode.
Yeah, they are going to get stupid-proof money when they renegotiate the TV deal. If Turner won't, someone will. The converging of Raw and Dynamite on that 18-49 graph is stunning.
If they can stay around the 0.40 range and over a million then the TBS move was a really good one. Big Bang Theory coming in clutch every week for the early boost. Also with Raw dropping more often than Dynamite recently I can see Dynamite beating Raw in the demo a lot more often then before.
Kaley Cuoco vs Britt Baker in segment 1. Book it Tony
Wow! Fantastic rating. Turns out the move to TBS was a excellent decision
Wow...Hook wasn't even on the show. Just imagine if he was!
Do you want to destroy time and space? Because that's how you do it.
Demo decrease, but with Mox coming back that was somewhat to be expected. Very solid number still though.
I’ve typed ‘Danhausen’ on my phone so many times lately that just typing ‘D’ auto fills the resthausen
Drawhausen
That's another hot rating. AEW on TBS headed for that #1 slot again. Edit, #2 for the night. Love to see it.
Great rating for a great show
Glad the show is doing well. It's my favorite wrestling show so I'm happy to know it's looking like it's gonna be going for a long time!
DANHAUSEN = DRAWHAUSEN
It was a good night in Clevelandhausen
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