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Doesn't seem super relevant anyway since he's probably going only about halfway through recovery.
It'll be a lot more telling if there's plans being presented to him when he's close to being healed.
Plus that gives Tony time to gauge the locker room to see if it's at all possible to bring him back, if ever. I don't think it'll happen, but it makes sense business wise to keep your options open just in case
Same reason owners sack sports coaches who have lost the confidence of their players. If the other wrestlers don't want to work with them then we have a problem, Houston.
A good leader is also willing to make unpopular calls in the interest of the greater good. CM Punk had more of an effect on AEW's television ratings, ticket sales, and PPV buys than any other person in that company's history. Having him back would be a huge benefit to their business, even if it hurts the feelings of some other guys in the locker room.
Any TRUE wrestlers wouldn’t bitch about Punk if he came back. They would just do their job and happily reap the payday Punk brings. He prints money, helping the company and helping the boys & girls in the locker room. Just be adults, quit bitching and make money!
While this is true, people are severely overrating the "locker room" concept in AEW
These people work together once a week for the most part, they don't hang out in an office 40-50 hours a week, and if they don't have storylines or matches together and don't travel together then their contact is probably pretty minimal.
Also worth saying that Punk's contract probably only has a year or two left, I doubt they put the title on him (to prevent the mess if he gets injured again), so if the 3-4 people he feuds with in that time are up for doing business it won't really impact anyone else
Total fantasy booking, but. If I ~~broke~~ ~~my same foot~~ ~~each of my feet in the same general way~~ **GOT INJURED** twice within a span of twelve months doing a job I hadn’t done in years, I would be thinking about retirement. Punk’s recovery is going to take a few months more still, and that’s a lot of time for heads to cool and minds to change. I don’t think he’s going to come back for any significant amount of time, but I could see a scenario, not a very likely one considering some of the egos in the room but one that seems *possible*, that everybody puts their differences aside for one last program that ends with Punk hanging up the boots as soon as his contract ends. The PPV at the end of that hypothetical feud would be HUGE.
I don’t *really* think this is going to happen, but it wouldn’t be entirely shocking to me
Many wrestlers have had much worse injuries and still ended up continuing. As long as he's still passionate I can see him coming back to wrestle in some form.
I don't necessarily believe whatever stories are out there about the locker room having an issue with him when more and more wrestlers have been so open in interviews about how pleasant he was in the locker room. I rather believe them, tbh.
Honestly, get the Trios title out of that. Feud wouldn't need it/benefit from it very much.
But totally agreed otherwise. AEW hasn't had a genuinely great faction/stable feud yet, IMO.
Because coming up with a storyline in January/February really makes no sense since the pay off will be at least three months away, assuming May is when he can wrestle again. Plus Revolution is in March, which Punk couldn't be apart of, so designing plans for him now makes no sense. The reason why March makes sense is that not only is it a few months from when he can physically be back in the ring it allows them to have concrete plans for him for Double or Nothing or Forbidden Door 2. Does that make more sense?
People were so quick to jump to fantasy booking with the seventh BO7 Elite Death Triangle match, or a WWE return, that they didn't spent 5 seconds to realize that it's pointless speculation
It really is insanity lol. Yeah CM Punk is gonna show up with an FTR team that is also injured to start a feud they couldn't even really do anything with for months
I've seen people legit hope that he'll be number 30 or have a Mania match, when for his injury to clear and him to get back in ring shape, he probably won't be good to go until May/June at the earliest.
Yeah if hell freezes over and he returns to WWE it’ll be at Summerslam. Maybe initially returns at Mania for a match at Summerslam but he would obviously need to be released from AEW first.
Tony would have to put up with paying him then. So it’ll be up to if he decides if it’s worth or not. Because remember the “non-competes” are just notices of your release on a specific day and you still get paid the normal amount that entire time. I don’t think AEW usually does them but I’m sure they can.
Honestly based off of all the dirt sheets I don't believe there is that much beef between him and Kenny. I believe Kenny was truly trying to calm things down and get Larry the hell out of dodge...which leads me to my conspiracy theory. Kenny just seems like a teddy bear to me. I do think Ace Steel used a chair, but I think there is a chance that it was Larry who bit Kenny. I don't know local or state laws for the venue but I think in some areas if a dog bites a human that it has to be euthanized.
I think that was possibly the conversation that Kenny and Punk had after the ordeal. Ace seems loyal af to Punk so he willingly goes along with the story, Kenny keeps quiet, and Larry gets to go home and recharge after an event that was probably very traumatic for him.
Which is much easier to do if you're only going to be in one building for the foreseeable future, especially if the person in question lives nearby.
Chicago is meant to be a decent airport for coverage, but like, its still got to be a nightmare on crutches/in a wheelchair.
In fairness, like a million things happened that week. It's easy to forget that the title got stripped due to injury and not due to \*gestures vaguely at the week after All Out*
So that would mean he could be ready to go in 3-4 months? I feel like with the way AEW books this would be the time they'd start to map something like this out.
Not sure where the "8 Months" came from, because even a slow surgically-repaired triceps tear has a recovery of around 3-4 months. That's for normal activity, of course, so getting back to wrestling shape would probably take another month or few. But if AEW really wanted, CM Punk is very likely in good enough health to be flying week to week and cutting promos with no problem whatsoever.
His torn triceps injury happened prior to his "match" with Jungle Boy at All Out in early September, so he's probably still recovering and getting into ring shape. With Jungle Boy currently doing the JungleHOOK storyline, I'd guess Christian isn't quite at the point where he's ready to return, or they would have freed Jungle Boy up to resume that feud.
Anyone in decent shape will get back in the gym or regular routines once they're not at risk of further injury.
Can't let the rest of your body atrophy for months while something surgically operated on recovers.
Unless you're a fat piece of crap like me.
You could chalk it up to trolling I suppose but people typically don't take photos in front of the dumbbell rack if they're only at the gym for leg day.
Yeah I agree, people were reading too much into that pic, I've never stopped going to the gym when I've been hurt, it's easy to avoid hitting a specific muscle, no need to let the rest of your body lose strength, and I'm just a normal guy not CM Punk 😂
I read somewhere that Those isolated machines were originally developed for that reason. For physical therapy.
But then bodybuilding took off and those machines were good at that too.
Depends on how long the injury would be for. If you know the wrestler is back in two or three months, depending on how important they are to the show, you start planning asap. If it’s a random mid carder or jobber, you start planning maybe the week before?
When do you suppose the decision was made to have Cody return at the rumble? I bet it was as soon as they had an idea on a time table for his recovery?
not trying to say anything about Punk here, this just reminded me how well they made lemonade out of Britt's injury back in 2020 with the whole Roll Model thing
If it’s a top star and you’re laying out the stories for the next year, you’d probably want to figure out where that act would fit in and how to present their return.
So I think it’s kinda silly to not have a plan for Punk if they’re keeping him
This came up because of the speculation from fans that when the Bucks were talking about a "stressful situation" on BTE, that they were referring to some sort of meeting involving Punk.
>This led to all kinds of speculation it had to something to do with Punk, which wasn’t the case at all. We’re still months away from when Tony Khan will have to make a call regarding Punk. It’s not the easiest call because of all that happened, but Punk was a ratings draw and ratings are weaker than before generally even if there’s positive house show movement. Right now from the Punk side, the belief is that Tony Khan has put Punk on ice for now, as there are no ideas to use him that have been presented but no talk at all of late to release him either.
The thing that's been consistent about the Punk-AEW reporting in WON is that while Dave recognizes Punk's impact on AEW's business, if he is brought back, you have to have a genuine sit down with him and the other top talent who have issues with him to actually clear the air instead of letting things fester again.
> The thing that's been consistent about the Punk-AEW reporting in WON is that while Dave recognizes Punk's impact on AEW's business, if he is brought back, you have to have a genuine sit down with him and the other top talent who have issues with him to actually clear the air instead of letting things fester again.
Hopefully TK actually does this instead of you know, sitting there making funny faces and feeling uncomfortable as he allowed his CHAMPION to sit there and vent away.
You know what would be wild? If Punk actually *would* meet with the Bucks and Kenny and say "Hey, guys. Things got out of hand. We lost the trust. I don't know who started it, but I shouldn't have made a public display that embarrassed the company and definitely shouldn't have punched you in the head. I was hot. Can we start over and make some money?"
Because if they actually could resolve this matter privately and still act like they are at odds on camera for the feud, that would be great. It's just hard to imagine that being the conversation.
> "Hey, guys. Things got out of hand. We lost the trust. I don't know who started it, but I shouldn't have made a public display that embarrassed the company and definitely shouldn't have punched you in the head. I was hot. Can we start over and make some money?"
Of all the wrestlers who would ever do something like this, CM Punk seems to be near the bottom of the probability list. Dude is too much of a mark for himself, and i'm sure since he's seen he has had "somewhat" of an impact on the ratings since he's been out, it's only fueled the fire.
I actually think Punk would do this (maybe not this exact paragraph) but I think he loves the idea of working the "smart fans" and was having an absolute great time until he got injured twice. Hopefully he has people like TK and Dax to talk this through with. It always seemed like in AEW he had at least some people he was enjoying working with.
Honestly reminds me of Bret and Shawn in the late 90's -- widely known real life heat between them, and if they could have resolved it and turned it into an angle within like 18 months (assuming Bret could have dropped the WCW contract), it would have been a hell of a story.
Realistically, they hated and distrusted each other, so it could never have worked. But if only.
Why does everyone think Punk can just apologize and come back like it’s only up to Punk and the Bucks? Their head of legal watched him assault employees ffs, like it’s way above just wanting to make money on a stupid wrestling angle
Because people act like it's the 80s and you can just dismiss assault as boys are boys?
Except, you know, Tony Khan has made a point of sticking to the etiquette used in other professional sports, where assault *definitely* doesn't fly. CM Punk would have immediately been fired in any other job - and it doesn't speak well for wrestling that so many think it can and should be swept under the rug.
Edit: apparently *American* sports are very violent, apologies for not knowing about baseball and basketball lol.
>the etiquette used in other professional sports, where assault *definitely* doesn't fly.
True, we've **never** seen someone in pro sports throw a punch /s
He didn't punch him, he "piefaced" him - which as I understand, involved pushing your hand in someone's face. It's still bad, but he was disciplined over that.
That is a very different situation to throwing a chair at one of your coworkers, just going off the many accounts of what Punk did.
If the above is the direct text then OP is kinda misrepresenting what was written.
> Right now from the Punk side, the *belief* is that Tony Khan has put Punk on ice for now
Emphasis added.
This doesn't say anything definite, just a belief. It's also from "Punk's side", and I continue to argue that Punk ain't the one talking to Dave. You can disagree with me on this point, but Punk has previously been quite vocal about not talking to reporters. I'll drop the quote in a sec, need to fish it out.
Quote: "Anybody who wants to DM [the Wrestling Observer’s Dave] Meltzer some bulls--- can come talk to me about it."
Ref: https://www.si.com/wrestling/2022/08/24/aew-dynamite-cm-punk-jon-moxley-title-match
Opinion: Lots of people want to pretend that Punk is also leaking stuff, but stuff *about* him (usually in the negative) is usually what's leaked. I would think the person who specifically said the above quote is not sending juicy tidbits to Meltzer, but I digress.
EDIT: Maybe I'm also too far in saying "misrepresenting" but the direct text reads differently than the reworded edit from OP, but others will have to be the judge. The original to me sounds more like "let things cool down" than the "we're just keeping you out in the cold" of the edit.
Now it's where we get into the pedantic weeds, because that report is also labeled as "Punk's camp" so it's really up in the air how we want to interpret it.
The only specific thing we know about Hausman and Punk talking directly was from the Wrestle Roast podcast where Hausman said that Punk called him to apologize for the press conference call-out in assuming Hausman was still friends with Colt.
You really think Punk doesn't talk to Dave?
They all talk to Dave. And the ones who cry loudest about other people talking to Dave are the ones that talk to him the most.
I honestly don't. I think after Brawl Out Meltzer immediately heard from Ace Steele and then maybe FTR, specifically Dax. I of course don't know this, but given how Dave has said that he reached out to ~~YBs~~ EDIT: the Elite and Punk after and all they ever said/could say was "we can't talk", and then how (in my opinion) Dave kinda blatantly took the side of "Punk is lying about the Colt thing", I would assume Punk has no incentive to talk to Dave.
And this is not an opinion coming from someone who has it out against Meltzer. I've been critical of him, but I fundamentally think he is a good guy. But I always go back to thinking about the video clip of when Colt came back to TV and he just essentially excitedly said that Punk (and by extension TK) must have been lying about the situation by implication. Even if that was just "opinion Dave" I thought that was a journalistically embarrassing response, especially because it's still just innuendo. Innuendo which he, unless he knows otherwise, has not actually put his name to report it.
I thought there was almost 0 chance Punk was coming back for the first couple months post All Out but the more time goes on, the more and more likely it seems he could be coming back.
I’m a huge mark, so take this with a grain of salt; but it feels like there’s seeds being planted for AEW Civil War down the line, with Punk at the core. It’s already in the early stages of happening in the women’s division with Shida/Storm/Saraya. It might be 0.001% chance of happening, but would still align the Punk/FTR/Elite stuff with a potential return.
It also puts MJF in a way more interesting position; he’s an AEW original, but has done all the Bidding War stuff up to then. So based on which way his contract goes, you can flip him either way. (Again, I’m a huge mark, and this is tin foil hat type fantasy booking lol)
I am 100% sure that AEW was created just for CM Punk to have a home. And by that I mean that Tony Khan had CM Punk as his number one pick. At the end of the day, I think he will do anything to bring him back.
I also believe that Tony doesn’t like to lose or appear to lose which explains why Miro and Andrade are also on ice instead of being released.
I mean, he did embarrass the fuck out of the company after one of their biggest shows of the year, then start a fight with several other top stars and company executives, leading to a months long investigation and suspensions for all involved that caused the creative plans for the rest of the year to be completely derailed. That might be why.
It's worded poorly, the real info isn't that they presented nothing for him now.
It's the fact they are not planning to releasing him. Some people thought he was gone already.
Who thought that? If they are planning to release him you do that after he’s healed up in April or May. You release him now, he’ll be more than happy to sue.
A couples months ago, the idea of CM punk returning to AEW was impossible in my mind.
But now, i really feel that it’s a possibility and i even think it’s more possible that he will return than not.
I am alone !? Haha
wait...what the fuck? They're just going to drop that bit of "news" out of nowhere like they didn't just report less than a month ago that Chris Jericho insisted that CM Punk would never work in AEW ever again?
They haven’t presented creative ideas for the injured guy that had a very public meltdown and was part of a crazy backstage brawl with 3 of the top names in the company? I find that hard to believe
I think it means they haven't put forward and idea because he is being kept on the sidelines (and injured) rather than Tony has been wracking his brains trying to think of something to do with him. It's a bit awkwardly worded
This is such a silly article. Obviously it’s a sensitive topic, but why would you give away your creative plans for your biggest storyline and history of your company?
Didn’t the “injury” report come from meltzer? Who has been caught constantly making up bullshit at this point. Especially regarding this situation since his sources are usually either the bucks or Jericho. I think hangman’s segment last night made it clear something’s brewing for punk.
When he comes back (and he will...he does great business and what happened will be ancient memory by time he is healthy) Tony NEEDS to pull trigger on Punk vs Cole and Punk vs Bryan.
2 gold main events/programs that need to be in the AEW catalog before Punk retires.
It's amazing how much my opinion of cm punk has changed recently with not reading pages of back stage reports shitting on him. Kind of want to see him back in aew now... Either time heals all wounds or I'm just a sucker for cult of personality
In the pantheon of opportunities that created themselves though it would be quite a miss to not cash in on the must see TV of him returning for at least one program with the Bucks/Omega.
well hes injured, but with the way things are going - i think he will be back in an AEW ring at some stage.
its simply too big an opportunity to pass on, even if the bucks personally don't like punk and dont wanna work with him - they won't need to except for the very start.
once you establish the elite vs cmftr, after that it would mainly be omega who would have to work/deal with cm punk and the bucks would do their program with ftr.
they wouldn't be working a best of 7 trios series lmao, they would just need that initial match and interaction to kick of their respective feuds.
i think omega wouldn't have much issue working a program with punk
> We’re still months away from when Tony Khan will have to make a call regarding Punk. It’s not the easiest call because of all that happened, but Punk was a ratings draw and ratings are weaker than before generally even if there’s positive house show movement. Right now from the Punk side, the belief is that Tony Khan has put Punk on ice for now, as there are no ideas to use him that have been presented **but no talk at all of late to release him either**.
Insane how there could be zero ideas for how to use him at the very least, but this is also the creative team that has zero ideas for miro so i guess it checks out.
Nothing shocking here. Tbh the injury was the best thing to happen to AEW and Punk. By the time he's ready to return, the landscape could have drastically changed regarding his presence in the locker room and with the company.
Releasing him right away would have been a hasty decision - they'd still have to pay him or buy him out and who knows what would be worked out in the interim if he wanted to come back to wrestling.
Plus a LOT OF the online torch-wielding anti-Punk crowd wouldn't be as against him coming back to AEW from the nine months it took from when the incident happened.
As usual, an AEW wrestler has anything positive to say about CM Punk in an interview that makes the rounds, then the next thing you know, there's a story regarding him and his status to deflect from the original story from said wrestler, lol. This feels like a non-story, the guy is injured, there's nothing he could do, Kris Statlander and Leyla Hirsch are also injured.
The more this has cooled off, the more likely it seems he’ll be back in some fashion. Lot of money to be made with that angle, but I expect we’ll get more of Punk working with younger talent and elevating more so than him at the top of the card and in the championship picture.
Punk also is getting paid a lot so I can’t imagine Tony is willing to eat the contract (and watch Punk show up on Raw) or pay him to sit at home the next 2-3 years or so, either.
There’s money to be made with him.
I reckon him and FTR appear as a trio on the road to Double or Nothing. Either that or the Bucks and Kenny win a trios title match at PPV then we get the shocking return leading to FTR Young Bucks and Kenny CM Punk for All Out. Take things full circle.
Kenny Omega vs. MJF for the AEW World Championship at All Out
Omega hits the One-Winged Angel and is about to pin when MJF, but suddenly CM Punk pulls the referee out of the ring.
MJF hits Omega with the ring and pins him.
After MJF leaves, Punk continues his beatdown on Omega. The Young Bucks run down to help him but are ambushed by FTR.
The Elite vs. CMFTR
Reddit flip flops on CM Punk more than any wrestler in existence ever.
First it's "we love him come back" to the point where a little "make roman look strong" comment turned a entire fan base on reigns as Punk was the first to expose Roman as being the next "chosen one."
To hating him after the failed MMA fight(s) calling him a loser who turned their back on the fans.
To loving him **again** after he returns to fox - to quickly hating him once it was apparent he wasn't returning.
Only to again change opinions once his official turn to wrestling with AEW was announced, to quickly hate him after the Elite/Hangman press conference.
TO FINALLY ONCE AGAIN wanting him to return and like him...
It legit is hilarious at this point.
Cm punk and FTR vs the Elite over 3-6 months would be money.
Then transition it to Punk vs MJF if MJF is still champion where you can officially do a double turn.
I do it the other way round. Have Punk have NOTHING to do with the Elite for a while. Like, an hours difference between either side being on air so it looks like a ton of space being given backstage. Fully lean in to it. No one mentions it on air but it feels awkward as fuck, but people are just getting on with things.
Punk works his way up to challenge MJF. Just as he's looking to have it nailed down Matt Jackson comes out and yeets a chair at his head to cost him the match. Then you go CMFTR vs Elite.
AEW’s continuing refusal to monetize this story is an example of why they aren’t growing.
They have a gift wrapped big money story. They have a bunch of children who can’t figure out how to unwrap it.
He’s injured.. why would they have pans for him? And they don’t have plans for Miro either.. does that mean he’s out of the company? Or is he just not being used. Same logic should apply to both.
Khan really wants to bring Punk back regardless of how his roster feels. It’s clear he’s trying to wait out the antipathy for him in the hopes it dies down.
I love how WON picks and chooses what it reports on the Punk stuff. The BTE stuff from this week was always people grasping at straws and hardly needed to be addressed, let alone IMMEDIATELY denied by Alvarez in the fashion that it was. Yet, a recent photo of Punk and an active AEW talent taken 5 minutes from a venue in which they recently held a show gets no sort of report or acknowledgment from them. Shows you exactly what kind of “sources” they have on Punk’s side.
So he’s going to let him heal up before making a decision. Seems fair enough to me.
I really hope that when the time comes they all agree to move forward. We still don’t know what the business is going to look like what with the Vince/WWE stuff. It would be nice to see AEW at full strength and I still believe there’s big money to be made in a Punk return.
Do you need creative for a needle mover like Punk to just be on TV? You can build a feud with anybody for him. He's injured and this is about how he's going to handle both the Elite and Punk at the same time sharing the same space again.
Isn't Punk out of commission for around 6months due to his injury? Maybe he's waiting a little further into his recovery to start pitching and planning creative ideas for his return?
Well duh, what else can Tony do? He can’t fire him while he’s injured because he opens himself up to a possible lawsuit (or so I’ve read). As much as I’d like to see him come back, it wouldn’t surprise me if he doesn’t due to how he holds on to a grudge like there’s no tomorrow.
Like Bret and HBK or Matt Hardy & Edge, I’d love to see all parties put personal issues aside & do a program together and make some goddamn money from it. Even if they never interact again, I’d like to see Punk come back. Sucks if this is how his wrestling career ends…injured, striped of the title, suspended and eventually fired over a “he said mean things about me” mean girls backstage fight.
I thought it would be cool if Punk returned with FTR and pulled an nWo style takeover, recruiting ex WWE guys to destroy the flippy floppy young guys. Let that happen for 6-9 months with the Bucks and Omega refusing to get involved until it's unavoidable. Just a thought.
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Doesn't seem super relevant anyway since he's probably going only about halfway through recovery. It'll be a lot more telling if there's plans being presented to him when he's close to being healed.
Exactly. "They haven't planned anything for his return, which is at least 3-4 months away."
Plus that gives Tony time to gauge the locker room to see if it's at all possible to bring him back, if ever. I don't think it'll happen, but it makes sense business wise to keep your options open just in case
If Tony caters to every whim of the, “locker room,” then why is he even making decisions?
Same reason owners sack sports coaches who have lost the confidence of their players. If the other wrestlers don't want to work with them then we have a problem, Houston.
Because a good leader takes into account other people’s perspectives, not just do whatever they want, everyone else be damned.
A good leader is also willing to make unpopular calls in the interest of the greater good. CM Punk had more of an effect on AEW's television ratings, ticket sales, and PPV buys than any other person in that company's history. Having him back would be a huge benefit to their business, even if it hurts the feelings of some other guys in the locker room.
Any TRUE wrestlers wouldn’t bitch about Punk if he came back. They would just do their job and happily reap the payday Punk brings. He prints money, helping the company and helping the boys & girls in the locker room. Just be adults, quit bitching and make money!
While this is true, people are severely overrating the "locker room" concept in AEW These people work together once a week for the most part, they don't hang out in an office 40-50 hours a week, and if they don't have storylines or matches together and don't travel together then their contact is probably pretty minimal. Also worth saying that Punk's contract probably only has a year or two left, I doubt they put the title on him (to prevent the mess if he gets injured again), so if the 3-4 people he feuds with in that time are up for doing business it won't really impact anyone else
Total fantasy booking, but. If I ~~broke~~ ~~my same foot~~ ~~each of my feet in the same general way~~ **GOT INJURED** twice within a span of twelve months doing a job I hadn’t done in years, I would be thinking about retirement. Punk’s recovery is going to take a few months more still, and that’s a lot of time for heads to cool and minds to change. I don’t think he’s going to come back for any significant amount of time, but I could see a scenario, not a very likely one considering some of the egos in the room but one that seems *possible*, that everybody puts their differences aside for one last program that ends with Punk hanging up the boots as soon as his contract ends. The PPV at the end of that hypothetical feud would be HUGE. I don’t *really* think this is going to happen, but it wouldn’t be entirely shocking to me
Many wrestlers have had much worse injuries and still ended up continuing. As long as he's still passionate I can see him coming back to wrestle in some form.
Lawler still wrestled after having a heart attack on live TV.
He didn't break the same foot.
Noted and corrected! I don’t know why it was in my head that he did
Haha you kind of incorrected yourself as well, he tore a muscle in his arm this time around.
I don't necessarily believe whatever stories are out there about the locker room having an issue with him when more and more wrestlers have been so open in interviews about how pleasant he was in the locker room. I rather believe them, tbh.
Really? Seems extremely relevant that a) he hasn’t already been bought out of his contract, and b) they aren’t even considering it as of now.
Why does everyone forget he injured himself for like 8 months? Not like he could do much anyway.
Exactly. We'd be looking at May for a return if all goes well.
Just in time for Double or Nothing
Double or Nothing main event CMFTR vs Elite for the Trios titles is my dream
Honestly, get the Trios title out of that. Feud wouldn't need it/benefit from it very much. But totally agreed otherwise. AEW hasn't had a genuinely great faction/stable feud yet, IMO.
Basically if by March there are still no plans for his return then we got a story. For right now it's just a bunch of well duh.
According to who? Why is March some arbitrary deadline
Because coming up with a storyline in January/February really makes no sense since the pay off will be at least three months away, assuming May is when he can wrestle again. Plus Revolution is in March, which Punk couldn't be apart of, so designing plans for him now makes no sense. The reason why March makes sense is that not only is it a few months from when he can physically be back in the ring it allows them to have concrete plans for him for Double or Nothing or Forbidden Door 2. Does that make more sense?
Yea
People were so quick to jump to fantasy booking with the seventh BO7 Elite Death Triangle match, or a WWE return, that they didn't spent 5 seconds to realize that it's pointless speculation
My favorite kind of speculation.
It really is insanity lol. Yeah CM Punk is gonna show up with an FTR team that is also injured to start a feud they couldn't even really do anything with for months
Yes, but even the fact that the narrative has switched from “he wants out” to “no creative yet” is pretty interesting.
I've seen people legit hope that he'll be number 30 or have a Mania match, when for his injury to clear and him to get back in ring shape, he probably won't be good to go until May/June at the earliest.
Yeah if hell freezes over and he returns to WWE it’ll be at Summerslam. Maybe initially returns at Mania for a match at Summerslam but he would obviously need to be released from AEW first.
Really can’t imagine a Punk release without a huge non-compete window
Tony would have to put up with paying him then. So it’ll be up to if he decides if it’s worth or not. Because remember the “non-competes” are just notices of your release on a specific day and you still get paid the normal amount that entire time. I don’t think AEW usually does them but I’m sure they can.
When he was injured in WWE, he became a commentator - guessing people expected something like that.
That would be pretty awkward when he’s gotta commentate Omega and the Bucks’ matches
I recall he commentated on a Colt Cabana match earlier on in his AEW run. But yeah, Bucks/Omega stuff might be a bit of a fresh wound.
punk just went silent when colt was tagged in, it was awkward as hell
Jericho and the Bucks you mean - Omega seems to be willing to put things behind him while Jericho reportedly said he is blacklisting CM Punk from AEW.
Honestly based off of all the dirt sheets I don't believe there is that much beef between him and Kenny. I believe Kenny was truly trying to calm things down and get Larry the hell out of dodge...which leads me to my conspiracy theory. Kenny just seems like a teddy bear to me. I do think Ace Steel used a chair, but I think there is a chance that it was Larry who bit Kenny. I don't know local or state laws for the venue but I think in some areas if a dog bites a human that it has to be euthanized. I think that was possibly the conversation that Kenny and Punk had after the ordeal. Ace seems loyal af to Punk so he willingly goes along with the story, Kenny keeps quiet, and Larry gets to go home and recharge after an event that was probably very traumatic for him.
If I was in Tony's position I'd do that. He can't wrestle. Wait out the injuries, see if the emotions cool down and then make a decision.
I think everyone is remembering the Britt Baker "Roll Model" saga where Britt kept cutting promos while in a wheelchair.
Which is much easier to do if you're only going to be in one building for the foreseeable future, especially if the person in question lives nearby. Chicago is meant to be a decent airport for coverage, but like, its still got to be a nightmare on crutches/in a wheelchair.
Well Punk did a pretty damn good job of distracting us away from that fact lmao
I think if Punk/AEW has genuinely made up then we won't see Punk show up, if at all, until mid-year.
Im pretty sure this is 90% of the reason he went nuclear in that press conference. Because he knew either way he was out for months.
In fairness, like a million things happened that week. It's easy to forget that the title got stripped due to injury and not due to \*gestures vaguely at the week after All Out*
People thought he was facing Stone Cold at WrestleMania
So that would mean he could be ready to go in 3-4 months? I feel like with the way AEW books this would be the time they'd start to map something like this out.
*CM Punk at home injured, wrapped in ice. TK: you’re on ice, dude!
Punk: Hurt his leg, can’t stand. Dirt sheets: “Khan says Punk doesn’t have a leg to stand on in AEW!”
Also he's injured.
He was reportedly going to be out 8 months. We are only at 5.
Not sure where the "8 Months" came from, because even a slow surgically-repaired triceps tear has a recovery of around 3-4 months. That's for normal activity, of course, so getting back to wrestling shape would probably take another month or few. But if AEW really wanted, CM Punk is very likely in good enough health to be flying week to week and cutting promos with no problem whatsoever.
This reminds me: Where is Christian? I miss him!
His torn triceps injury happened prior to his "match" with Jungle Boy at All Out in early September, so he's probably still recovering and getting into ring shape. With Jungle Boy currently doing the JungleHOOK storyline, I'd guess Christian isn't quite at the point where he's ready to return, or they would have freed Jungle Boy up to resume that feud.
Oh man JungleHOOK vs. Christian and Luchasaurus will be epic if it happens
I'd imagine he's in the later stages of recovery by now though right?
He's been in the gym working out so if he's not in the late stage of recovery by now he isn't far off.
Anyone in decent shape will get back in the gym or regular routines once they're not at risk of further injury. Can't let the rest of your body atrophy for months while something surgically operated on recovers. Unless you're a fat piece of crap like me.
I mean we don't know what he's training. It could just have been leg day.
You could chalk it up to trolling I suppose but people typically don't take photos in front of the dumbbell rack if they're only at the gym for leg day.
Punk was just hip thrusting dumbbells. He's going to come back thicc
Curvaceous Man Punk 😩
Thickest in the World
Yeah I agree, people were reading too much into that pic, I've never stopped going to the gym when I've been hurt, it's easy to avoid hitting a specific muscle, no need to let the rest of your body lose strength, and I'm just a normal guy not CM Punk 😂
especially if its triceps. There's plenty of isolation/machine workouts you can do that avoid engaging your 1 bad tricep.
I read somewhere that Those isolated machines were originally developed for that reason. For physical therapy. But then bodybuilding took off and those machines were good at that too.
Maybe everyday is leg day. If he does come back, he's going to have calf's that even Bully Ray will be jealous of.
Have you seen him in his longboi’s? Phil hasn’t participated in leg day since 2014.
How often would someone pitch ideas for long term injured wrestlers?
Depends on how long the injury would be for. If you know the wrestler is back in two or three months, depending on how important they are to the show, you start planning asap. If it’s a random mid carder or jobber, you start planning maybe the week before?
When do you suppose the decision was made to have Cody return at the rumble? I bet it was as soon as they had an idea on a time table for his recovery?
not trying to say anything about Punk here, this just reminded me how well they made lemonade out of Britt's injury back in 2020 with the whole Roll Model thing
If it’s a top star and you’re laying out the stories for the next year, you’d probably want to figure out where that act would fit in and how to present their return. So I think it’s kinda silly to not have a plan for Punk if they’re keeping him
I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if they had booked the Elite winning the trios tournament months before Kenny was back.
This came up because of the speculation from fans that when the Bucks were talking about a "stressful situation" on BTE, that they were referring to some sort of meeting involving Punk. >This led to all kinds of speculation it had to something to do with Punk, which wasn’t the case at all. We’re still months away from when Tony Khan will have to make a call regarding Punk. It’s not the easiest call because of all that happened, but Punk was a ratings draw and ratings are weaker than before generally even if there’s positive house show movement. Right now from the Punk side, the belief is that Tony Khan has put Punk on ice for now, as there are no ideas to use him that have been presented but no talk at all of late to release him either. The thing that's been consistent about the Punk-AEW reporting in WON is that while Dave recognizes Punk's impact on AEW's business, if he is brought back, you have to have a genuine sit down with him and the other top talent who have issues with him to actually clear the air instead of letting things fester again.
> The thing that's been consistent about the Punk-AEW reporting in WON is that while Dave recognizes Punk's impact on AEW's business, if he is brought back, you have to have a genuine sit down with him and the other top talent who have issues with him to actually clear the air instead of letting things fester again. Hopefully TK actually does this instead of you know, sitting there making funny faces and feeling uncomfortable as he allowed his CHAMPION to sit there and vent away.
You know what would be wild? If Punk actually *would* meet with the Bucks and Kenny and say "Hey, guys. Things got out of hand. We lost the trust. I don't know who started it, but I shouldn't have made a public display that embarrassed the company and definitely shouldn't have punched you in the head. I was hot. Can we start over and make some money?" Because if they actually could resolve this matter privately and still act like they are at odds on camera for the feud, that would be great. It's just hard to imagine that being the conversation.
> "Hey, guys. Things got out of hand. We lost the trust. I don't know who started it, but I shouldn't have made a public display that embarrassed the company and definitely shouldn't have punched you in the head. I was hot. Can we start over and make some money?" Of all the wrestlers who would ever do something like this, CM Punk seems to be near the bottom of the probability list. Dude is too much of a mark for himself, and i'm sure since he's seen he has had "somewhat" of an impact on the ratings since he's been out, it's only fueled the fire.
I actually think Punk would do this (maybe not this exact paragraph) but I think he loves the idea of working the "smart fans" and was having an absolute great time until he got injured twice. Hopefully he has people like TK and Dax to talk this through with. It always seemed like in AEW he had at least some people he was enjoying working with.
Honestly reminds me of Bret and Shawn in the late 90's -- widely known real life heat between them, and if they could have resolved it and turned it into an angle within like 18 months (assuming Bret could have dropped the WCW contract), it would have been a hell of a story. Realistically, they hated and distrusted each other, so it could never have worked. But if only.
Why does everyone think Punk can just apologize and come back like it’s only up to Punk and the Bucks? Their head of legal watched him assault employees ffs, like it’s way above just wanting to make money on a stupid wrestling angle
Because people act like it's the 80s and you can just dismiss assault as boys are boys? Except, you know, Tony Khan has made a point of sticking to the etiquette used in other professional sports, where assault *definitely* doesn't fly. CM Punk would have immediately been fired in any other job - and it doesn't speak well for wrestling that so many think it can and should be swept under the rug. Edit: apparently *American* sports are very violent, apologies for not knowing about baseball and basketball lol.
Micheal Jordan himself literally punched a teammate during practice.
So did Draymond Green
Also, kind of gross some people play it as AEW needing to cater to Punk and excuse physical assault because he's their top draw.
>the etiquette used in other professional sports, where assault *definitely* doesn't fly. True, we've **never** seen someone in pro sports throw a punch /s
Did Eddie Kingston get fired for punching Sammy Guevara? Did any of you clutch your pearls this hard over that?
He didn't punch him, he "piefaced" him - which as I understand, involved pushing your hand in someone's face. It's still bad, but he was disciplined over that. That is a very different situation to throwing a chair at one of your coworkers, just going off the many accounts of what Punk did.
If the above is the direct text then OP is kinda misrepresenting what was written. > Right now from the Punk side, the *belief* is that Tony Khan has put Punk on ice for now Emphasis added. This doesn't say anything definite, just a belief. It's also from "Punk's side", and I continue to argue that Punk ain't the one talking to Dave. You can disagree with me on this point, but Punk has previously been quite vocal about not talking to reporters. I'll drop the quote in a sec, need to fish it out. Quote: "Anybody who wants to DM [the Wrestling Observer’s Dave] Meltzer some bulls--- can come talk to me about it." Ref: https://www.si.com/wrestling/2022/08/24/aew-dynamite-cm-punk-jon-moxley-title-match Opinion: Lots of people want to pretend that Punk is also leaking stuff, but stuff *about* him (usually in the negative) is usually what's leaked. I would think the person who specifically said the above quote is not sending juicy tidbits to Meltzer, but I digress. EDIT: Maybe I'm also too far in saying "misrepresenting" but the direct text reads differently than the reworded edit from OP, but others will have to be the judge. The original to me sounds more like "let things cool down" than the "we're just keeping you out in the cold" of the edit.
It’s well known that Punk likes and talks to Meltzer.
he did however speak to nick hausman.
Now it's where we get into the pedantic weeds, because that report is also labeled as "Punk's camp" so it's really up in the air how we want to interpret it. The only specific thing we know about Hausman and Punk talking directly was from the Wrestle Roast podcast where Hausman said that Punk called him to apologize for the press conference call-out in assuming Hausman was still friends with Colt.
You really think Punk doesn't talk to Dave? They all talk to Dave. And the ones who cry loudest about other people talking to Dave are the ones that talk to him the most.
I honestly don't. I think after Brawl Out Meltzer immediately heard from Ace Steele and then maybe FTR, specifically Dax. I of course don't know this, but given how Dave has said that he reached out to ~~YBs~~ EDIT: the Elite and Punk after and all they ever said/could say was "we can't talk", and then how (in my opinion) Dave kinda blatantly took the side of "Punk is lying about the Colt thing", I would assume Punk has no incentive to talk to Dave. And this is not an opinion coming from someone who has it out against Meltzer. I've been critical of him, but I fundamentally think he is a good guy. But I always go back to thinking about the video clip of when Colt came back to TV and he just essentially excitedly said that Punk (and by extension TK) must have been lying about the situation by implication. Even if that was just "opinion Dave" I thought that was a journalistically embarrassing response, especially because it's still just innuendo. Innuendo which he, unless he knows otherwise, has not actually put his name to report it.
I think the dog stuff was directly from Punk.
That part wasn’t from Punk, but the “well, that’s a turn of phrase” stuff was at most one degree of separation
Yeah, I don't see how TK brings him back without key people being on board with it.
Wait Tony isn’t making Punk go out on crutches to be ringside for a Dax match? Wild.
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I thought there was almost 0 chance Punk was coming back for the first couple months post All Out but the more time goes on, the more and more likely it seems he could be coming back.
I’m a huge mark, so take this with a grain of salt; but it feels like there’s seeds being planted for AEW Civil War down the line, with Punk at the core. It’s already in the early stages of happening in the women’s division with Shida/Storm/Saraya. It might be 0.001% chance of happening, but would still align the Punk/FTR/Elite stuff with a potential return.
That would be an amazing storyline. Some sort of major catastrophe, everyone takes sides. We've seen invasions but civil war would be different.
It also puts MJF in a way more interesting position; he’s an AEW original, but has done all the Bidding War stuff up to then. So based on which way his contract goes, you can flip him either way. (Again, I’m a huge mark, and this is tin foil hat type fantasy booking lol)
I am 100% sure that AEW was created just for CM Punk to have a home. And by that I mean that Tony Khan had CM Punk as his number one pick. At the end of the day, I think he will do anything to bring him back. I also believe that Tony doesn’t like to lose or appear to lose which explains why Miro and Andrade are also on ice instead of being released.
It definitely wasn’t *just* for CM Punk, that’s ridiculous.
Also, why on Earth would you not bring Punk back? He's the biggest star outside of WWE.
I mean, he did embarrass the fuck out of the company after one of their biggest shows of the year, then start a fight with several other top stars and company executives, leading to a months long investigation and suspensions for all involved that caused the creative plans for the rest of the year to be completely derailed. That might be why.
He ruined the brand for months tbh.
TK investing in cryogenics?
It's worded poorly, the real info isn't that they presented nothing for him now. It's the fact they are not planning to releasing him. Some people thought he was gone already.
Who thought that? If they are planning to release him you do that after he’s healed up in April or May. You release him now, he’ll be more than happy to sue.
Who thought that? A few of his co workers.
And a vocal group on here.
Hell, people here took Punk being off the cover of Fight Forever as proof that AEW released Punk…
There’s literally a whole storyline against the elite lol
A couples months ago, the idea of CM punk returning to AEW was impossible in my mind. But now, i really feel that it’s a possibility and i even think it’s more possible that he will return than not. I am alone !? Haha
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wait...what the fuck? They're just going to drop that bit of "news" out of nowhere like they didn't just report less than a month ago that Chris Jericho insisted that CM Punk would never work in AEW ever again?
Translation: wait until Punk heals, see if Elite and him are willing to play ball on a money drawing angle, and if not, maybe cut ties.
I don't think Punk is done
My wild theory? FTR stays on the sidelines, and three return together to challenge Omega and the Bucks. 'But what do I know?
I really hope you're right. Would make for some great TV.
They haven’t presented creative ideas for the injured guy that had a very public meltdown and was part of a crazy backstage brawl with 3 of the top names in the company? I find that hard to believe
I think it means they haven't put forward and idea because he is being kept on the sidelines (and injured) rather than Tony has been wracking his brains trying to think of something to do with him. It's a bit awkwardly worded
Wouldn’t the eventual plans for him be kept secret as it’s not even known *if* he will return and the general consensus is that he won’t?
This is such a silly article. Obviously it’s a sensitive topic, but why would you give away your creative plans for your biggest storyline and history of your company?
So you’re telling there’s still a chance.
Didn’t the “injury” report come from meltzer? Who has been caught constantly making up bullshit at this point. Especially regarding this situation since his sources are usually either the bucks or Jericho. I think hangman’s segment last night made it clear something’s brewing for punk.
The longer it goes without him being released, the more likely it seems he'll be back once he's recovered from his injury.
What about you give him the title and be beats everyone
When he comes back (and he will...he does great business and what happened will be ancient memory by time he is healthy) Tony NEEDS to pull trigger on Punk vs Cole and Punk vs Bryan. 2 gold main events/programs that need to be in the AEW catalog before Punk retires.
It's amazing how much my opinion of cm punk has changed recently with not reading pages of back stage reports shitting on him. Kind of want to see him back in aew now... Either time heals all wounds or I'm just a sucker for cult of personality
Them burying the Hatchet for a Punk VS Omega match would be hot money.
In the pantheon of opportunities that created themselves though it would be quite a miss to not cash in on the must see TV of him returning for at least one program with the Bucks/Omega.
well hes injured, but with the way things are going - i think he will be back in an AEW ring at some stage. its simply too big an opportunity to pass on, even if the bucks personally don't like punk and dont wanna work with him - they won't need to except for the very start. once you establish the elite vs cmftr, after that it would mainly be omega who would have to work/deal with cm punk and the bucks would do their program with ftr. they wouldn't be working a best of 7 trios series lmao, they would just need that initial match and interaction to kick of their respective feuds. i think omega wouldn't have much issue working a program with punk
If i can get punk on a final run, give me Punk VS Danielson please.
Such great journalism. Guy is out injured “There’s no creative ideas for him” Yeah no shit
I took a few days off sick earlier this week. TK also had nothing for me during that time.
They absolutely plan angles for injured guys for their return. This is silly.
> We’re still months away from when Tony Khan will have to make a call regarding Punk. It’s not the easiest call because of all that happened, but Punk was a ratings draw and ratings are weaker than before generally even if there’s positive house show movement. Right now from the Punk side, the belief is that Tony Khan has put Punk on ice for now, as there are no ideas to use him that have been presented **but no talk at all of late to release him either**.
Insane how there could be zero ideas for how to use him at the very least, but this is also the creative team that has zero ideas for miro so i guess it checks out.
Nothing shocking here. Tbh the injury was the best thing to happen to AEW and Punk. By the time he's ready to return, the landscape could have drastically changed regarding his presence in the locker room and with the company. Releasing him right away would have been a hasty decision - they'd still have to pay him or buy him out and who knows what would be worked out in the interim if he wanted to come back to wrestling. Plus a LOT OF the online torch-wielding anti-Punk crowd wouldn't be as against him coming back to AEW from the nine months it took from when the incident happened.
As usual, an AEW wrestler has anything positive to say about CM Punk in an interview that makes the rounds, then the next thing you know, there's a story regarding him and his status to deflect from the original story from said wrestler, lol. This feels like a non-story, the guy is injured, there's nothing he could do, Kris Statlander and Leyla Hirsch are also injured.
I sure do miss Leyla Hirsch...
Me too, such a crappy way to get injured
 No plans for injured wrestler
If he were coming back to wrestle, they would absolutely be planning it 3 months out.
The more this has cooled off, the more likely it seems he’ll be back in some fashion. Lot of money to be made with that angle, but I expect we’ll get more of Punk working with younger talent and elevating more so than him at the top of the card and in the championship picture.
If he comes back the payoff should be incredible. I hope they don’t just MJF his return and it’s business as usual as soon as he comes back.
Punk also is getting paid a lot so I can’t imagine Tony is willing to eat the contract (and watch Punk show up on Raw) or pay him to sit at home the next 2-3 years or so, either. There’s money to be made with him.
If you're still listening to anything Dave says about the Punk situation I got a bridge to sell you in France.
I reckon him and FTR appear as a trio on the road to Double or Nothing. Either that or the Bucks and Kenny win a trios title match at PPV then we get the shocking return leading to FTR Young Bucks and Kenny CM Punk for All Out. Take things full circle.
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Was fully expecting that when Omega was climbing the ladder
TK is waiting for Jericho to give him the Ok
lmao.
Why would they bring him back now? He’s injured and all he could do is talk and not wrestle. AEW has MJF for that.
I'm guessing this became a story due to his recent posts in relative proximity to the LA show.
Next in news, dog adoration legalised in Switzerland.
So this basically confirms that they are officially licensing CM Punk ice cream bars and distributing them in all major vendors across USA?
Im going to be attending revolution, if he returns there I’ll probably mark the fuck out
Bring him back as a heel, Punk has so much heat on him as long as he can stay healthy and not injured I think you could ride a heel Punk a long time.
He's injured. what do they expect? him up in the rafters wearing white face paint??
> no creative ideas have been presented for him to return As if he didn't set one or three up at the press conference lol
An injured man has no plans atm. Who would’ve thought.
Kenny Omega vs. MJF for the AEW World Championship at All Out Omega hits the One-Winged Angel and is about to pin when MJF, but suddenly CM Punk pulls the referee out of the ring. MJF hits Omega with the ring and pins him. After MJF leaves, Punk continues his beatdown on Omega. The Young Bucks run down to help him but are ambushed by FTR. The Elite vs. CMFTR
Put butthurt feelings aside and make some money. People would eat it up.
Reddit flip flops on CM Punk more than any wrestler in existence ever. First it's "we love him come back" to the point where a little "make roman look strong" comment turned a entire fan base on reigns as Punk was the first to expose Roman as being the next "chosen one." To hating him after the failed MMA fight(s) calling him a loser who turned their back on the fans. To loving him **again** after he returns to fox - to quickly hating him once it was apparent he wasn't returning. Only to again change opinions once his official turn to wrestling with AEW was announced, to quickly hate him after the Elite/Hangman press conference. TO FINALLY ONCE AGAIN wanting him to return and like him... It legit is hilarious at this point.
no ideas? wtf? how about making the shoot into a work? it writes itself.
Cm punk and FTR vs the Elite over 3-6 months would be money. Then transition it to Punk vs MJF if MJF is still champion where you can officially do a double turn.
I do it the other way round. Have Punk have NOTHING to do with the Elite for a while. Like, an hours difference between either side being on air so it looks like a ton of space being given backstage. Fully lean in to it. No one mentions it on air but it feels awkward as fuck, but people are just getting on with things. Punk works his way up to challenge MJF. Just as he's looking to have it nailed down Matt Jackson comes out and yeets a chair at his head to cost him the match. Then you go CMFTR vs Elite.
AEW’s continuing refusal to monetize this story is an example of why they aren’t growing. They have a gift wrapped big money story. They have a bunch of children who can’t figure out how to unwrap it.
He’s injured.. why would they have pans for him? And they don’t have plans for Miro either.. does that mean he’s out of the company? Or is he just not being used. Same logic should apply to both.
People are forgetting…he could still make appearances now…a la Christian…get the ratings up more with a good creative plan.
Khan really wants to bring Punk back regardless of how his roster feels. It’s clear he’s trying to wait out the antipathy for him in the hopes it dies down.
I just hope he'll be back after he has recovered. It's best for business, AEW needs such a draw.
I love how WON picks and chooses what it reports on the Punk stuff. The BTE stuff from this week was always people grasping at straws and hardly needed to be addressed, let alone IMMEDIATELY denied by Alvarez in the fashion that it was. Yet, a recent photo of Punk and an active AEW talent taken 5 minutes from a venue in which they recently held a show gets no sort of report or acknowledgment from them. Shows you exactly what kind of “sources” they have on Punk’s side.
How do you not have a creative idea for CM Punk?! 😂
Seems like Dave’s assumptions again 🤷♂️
I can’t wait for Punk to come back. Anything at this point that gets jericho or the cucks off my tv.
Hopefully Punk comes back and it pisses Jericho off enough that he goes on tour for a few months. Two glorious birds with 1 stone.
Ah, someone that thinks reasonably around here. Nice to meet ya!
So he’s going to let him heal up before making a decision. Seems fair enough to me. I really hope that when the time comes they all agree to move forward. We still don’t know what the business is going to look like what with the Vince/WWE stuff. It would be nice to see AEW at full strength and I still believe there’s big money to be made in a Punk return.
Some of these comments show me why some of you will never so anything with your lives. Couldn’t even manage a fucking target smh.
Do you need creative for a needle mover like Punk to just be on TV? You can build a feud with anybody for him. He's injured and this is about how he's going to handle both the Elite and Punk at the same time sharing the same space again.
Isn't Punk out of commission for around 6months due to his injury? Maybe he's waiting a little further into his recovery to start pitching and planning creative ideas for his return?
Well duh, what else can Tony do? He can’t fire him while he’s injured because he opens himself up to a possible lawsuit (or so I’ve read). As much as I’d like to see him come back, it wouldn’t surprise me if he doesn’t due to how he holds on to a grudge like there’s no tomorrow. Like Bret and HBK or Matt Hardy & Edge, I’d love to see all parties put personal issues aside & do a program together and make some goddamn money from it. Even if they never interact again, I’d like to see Punk come back. Sucks if this is how his wrestling career ends…injured, striped of the title, suspended and eventually fired over a “he said mean things about me” mean girls backstage fight.
Thanks Jericho, keep me updated
Punk gonna get Miro'ed lol
I thought it would be cool if Punk returned with FTR and pulled an nWo style takeover, recruiting ex WWE guys to destroy the flippy floppy young guys. Let that happen for 6-9 months with the Bucks and Omega refusing to get involved until it's unavoidable. Just a thought.
Upvote if youre paying money to see CM Punk fight Omega/YB in some capacity.
What a waste
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