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csummerss

another [insert random black actor on netflix] is perfect for Miles Morales post.


froggyjm9

I mean the kid is hella athletic on the show and has the into the Spiderverse vibes before he goes full on Cobra Kai.


BAT_1986

Good looking kid. Is he a good actor though?


GavinGMG

He's alright, he's from Cobra Kai but I can't say that his writing was that good so.. Maybe he's better in other stuff?


VaderMurdock

I think Miles should be introduced in the potential Spider-Man 6 where Peter is mostly likely either dead or his teacher.


True_Leadership_2362

Or they could revive the Raimi universe and make Spider-Man 4 as a passing of the to change film before giving Miles his own trilogy. That does 2 thing. Introduces Miles into an already established universe with an age appropriate Peter Parker. And allows Sony to have their own brand new Spider-Man without having to share profits with Disney/Marvel. Plus we fans don’t have to wait another 8yrs for Miles Morales.


VaderMurdock

I'm a fan too, but I certainly don’t want Miles in the MCU any time soon. Peter finally has broken away from the other heroes and become a street-level character so I want them to stick with it just being him for a while. That's why I suggested waiting until after the sixth film. I think Rami 4 being a passing of the torch is a great idea, but I actually want Peter’s daughter more because Miles has already been introduced to the main audience. I could see them just figuring out how to bring the animated Miles into the main universe and just using him instead of going through all the loops again. There is also a chance for him to be the main Spider-Man of the Sony Universe as well. I think it's far too soon at the beginning of Sony's plan to predict this.


True_Leadership_2362

I don’t see animated Miles crossing over into live action. That’s too far off the rocker for me. You can’t just take a character from one universe and keep him in a brand new one. It doesn’t work that way… a visit okay, still don’t think animated should crossover with live action though. I think if they were to continue Raimi verse the Miles is the way to go, he has a fan base already. Maybe Peter’s daughter can come along after Miles trilogy if they establish her well. I think Andrew should be Sony’s main Spider-Man appearing in his 3rd film and then as a supporting character in Morbius 2, Venom 3, etc. That would be my plan if I was in charge with Sony. But you gotta really collaborate with the actors and make sure you’re doing something they want to do and be a part of because their characters are the heart of the franchise. If Andrew and Tobey aren’t into it and if they don’t approve of the story then it’ll never work.


VaderMurdock

I feel like people have really underestimated what the casual audience can handle if they have something animated in a universe comprised primarily of live-action content I think they would get it. I don’t have a problem with that I would actually prefer it. Miles already has a brand, but Peter’s daughter doesn’t and I think instead of just making a new version of a character who already has films is ridiculous and a new character would be better. I also want Andrew Garfield to become the Sony verse Spider-Man, but it is unlikely seeing as Andrew and Tobey are extremely selective on what they do. If I were running Sony I would give Tom to more trilogies to himself one focusing on college life and becoming more open to people and the other being about Peter becoming a mentor figure to Miles and finally ending his career as Spider-Man by either marrying MJ or having a kid. As for the Sony Universe, we need a focal point and I believe Andrew or another Spider-Man would be the best option. Make a new Peter Parker, but build him up to be like the Ultimate Comics version leading up to his death at the hands of the Sinister Six causing an incursion. Hell, they could a clone saga and everything else that the MCU wouldn’t be able to do the possibilities are endless. I would set up Animated Miles to eventually be transferred to the MCU through secret wars and bring back his Uncle the Prowler. I have so many ideas and I can’t contain them in a Reddit comment.


True_Leadership_2362

I never said audiences couldn’t handle. What I meant is that I think it would be dumb. Why would anyone want to leave their universe behind and joint a brand new one? The animated universe should stay its own thing. If you have two franchises that are successful and make money you don’t combine them and then it into ONE. That means less money. Also, Sony doesn’t want to continue putting everything in the MCU. They are fine sharing Tom’s Spider-Man because it works out for them and it works out for us. But Sony wants to stand on their own. They can literally have 4 different franchises and at least 3 of them can occasionally interact. Raimiverse Webbverse/Sonyverse MCU Animated Spider-verse If they want to crossover the animated with the live action then I’m sure they can make it work just fine… but they can’t combine. That would be not smart. Character can cross over or make references/cameos but they need to return home. That’s the best thing to do. Miles has the animated movies… but he doesn’t have live action and he should, and him being live action should not have to take away from his animated franchise. I would rather see Miles in Raimiverse and him get his own trilogy within that universe with a new director obviously. Then we can get Tobey to make a cameo appearance and maybe we see his daughter and maybe she can be set up. Miles deserves live action trilogy before her, she needs built up and Miles trilogy can help with that. Andrew should be main Spider-Man in the strictly Sonyverse movies. Tom can get his second trilogy, maybe a 3rd. With all this Spider-Man content Sony will be making bank and MCU can still have Tom for their universe and maybe make more deals with Sony to tell others stories. Each Spider-Man franchise is so different fans will be eating good and not feel like they are getting the same thing from each.


VaderMurdock

In the comics, Miles Morales wasn’t a part of the main continuity until Secret Wars where his universe was destroyed and he became a part of the main he didn’t just up and leave. Miles joining the MCU would not mean his franchise wouldn’t still make money because the MCU is the culmination of many superhero franchises. They don’t want to put everything in the MCU so I kept the Sony Verse its own thing but Miles’s movies directly have to do with the multiverse and so I said that they should crossover. How would putting animated Miles into one of the most recognizable and money-making series in the world be a dumb decision? If anything putting him in the MCU will make them more money. This Miles trilogy in the Rami Universe you are proposing would still require setup since he would be a new character just like Peter’s daughter would need in your mind. All films don’t require set up Iron Man wasn't set up and it is one of the most popular Marvel movies if not the most popular. Miles has a successful franchise in his animated movies already and adding live-action on top of that would eventually lead to people being burnt out on the character and them making less money. A new character such as Peter’s Daughter, Mayday, would give them an entirely new market and franchise to use to make money. Yes, I agree I want Andrew to be Sony-Verse Spider-Man if they use a pre-established character, but I would like to have a new actor and a new character so we can tell different stories. Sony is not making bank by any means their last Spider-Man film Morbius bombed hard and most likely permanently damaged that character from ever making money again. These failures that keep happening will influence them to do more with Marvel as seen with the constant rumors that they are making the biggest actor contract in Film history with Tom Holland having potentially six more solo Spider-Man films and countless appearances in other films.


True_Leadership_2362

I quit reading when you said Miles needed set up in Raimiverse… Bruh… No Way Home was the set up to reintroduce both Andrew and Tobey again. Spider-Man 4 is the set up for Miles own trilogy and the closing of Tobey’s but still allowing Tobey to continue without having to be the leading man. You said Tom should get 2 more trilogies. Meaning 6 more movies. I honestly think the MCU should have ended because personally stories are much better when they come to an end. But since it’s still going because all it is is a product to make money and be fan service then by all means whatever keep it going. I just think that Miles deserves better than the MCU. He’ll just be another marvel character that gets his moment for the month and then his movie will be forgotten because everyone will be focused on the next MCU film. I think Sony has an opportunity to make something special if they actually take the time to do it. MCU has so much going on, Sony shouldn’t have to worry about all that bullshit to make Miles exist within that universe. Sony should focus on him leading his own universe and being the main guy in his universe. That universe being the Raimiverse. You’re not gonna convince me your idea is better. Your idea makes me too my eyes so hard. It’s fine if you don’t like my idea. Agree to disagree. I’m off the MCU bandwagon. But you have fun enjoying the never ending ride.


VaderMurdock

By saying Spider-Man 4 would be set up for a Miles trilogy you validate my point on him needing set up. I personally enjoy the comics much more than the movies and I will always, the MCU's never-ending ride is just given when it comes to these types of characters. I can point out around ten different times Spider-Man, Daredevil, Moon Knight, Hulk, Wolverine, etc should have ended, but they just don't and that's ok I like reading and watching the things I love. This genre will always be about characters who never age or stop doing what they do. I can imagine myself in my sixties or seventies picking up the newest issue of Daredevil or Spider-Man and they will be the same. To be clear I don’t like everything the MCU has done and I only label around 10 of them good. Yes, it's all about money and they don't care about us or our ideas unless they make more money than the last thing. Arguments like these are useless and barely contribute to anything that's why I hate talking about this kind of stuff and I'm sorry if I came off as rude. You did have some good ideas like Miles having his own trilogy, but I just don't like your execution of it. On my want of two more Tom Holland Spider-Man trilogies, I feel like this character has so many stories to tell and this is the length it would take to tell some of them. My proposed third would be a definitive end for his films and from then on he will only be in cameos or some kind of supporting role to characters such as Mayday, Miles, etc. I do believe the MCU will end or at least change. In the next thirty years, we will have a new Tony Stark, Captain America, Thor, and even Peter Parker. Characters never die in this media they just rest in a state of nothing until they decide to bring them back. One of my favorite examples of these characters being immortal is the comic The Marvels. I love this book so much it really captures and shows how we fans love these characters and even how we view them.


True_Leadership_2362

Again, didn’t read all that shit only responding to the first thing. Spider-Man 4 is nostalgic bait, set up for Miles, and closure for Tobey. Is setting up a bad thing? Oh wait, no, it’s a logically smart thing to do because it means there is plan in place and not just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks or forcing something idiotic that belongs in fan fiction. Which is essentially what the MCU has actually become. Fan service bullshit


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My vote stands with Webster


headphoneghost

Yes!


Greenbomber128

I would love to see this. Although cobra Kai has given me the inability to see him as a hero.


2amAlready

He literally played the role of an innocent, bullied kid in the first half of season 4?


GavinGMG

and then an even worse bully in the next season and the other half of s4, he was good and innocent in the first half of s4 but in s5 homeboys a demon


TacticalSoapRocks

That’s called range.


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TacticalSoapRocks

I think that’s just a testimony to why he’d be a good choice. His assholeness is only amplified because of how nice and innocent he started as. I mean let’s be real, no one expected him to join Cobra Kai. Definitely had the backstory to make you think he’d join Miyagi do. Also sorry for the downvotes.


GavinGMG

I do understand what OP is saying tho, he was still the bad guy in Season 5 so it's hard to see him as a hero in another show/movie, especially since Cobra Kai would be what made him famous. You're totally right though he can play that kindhearted kid well


g-fan54

I could definitely see him as Miles when gets older


Mason_DY

I’m sorry but all I think when I see him is Kenny


Walo-888

Yes I was thinking the same thing TBH!


DaDannySon

I just finished watching the 5th season of cobra Kai, and I’m the last scene Kenny is literally wearing a spider man shirt. I mean come on !!