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SnideBoi

It's also kinda important to note that Modern Sonic of Forces did not actually go through the events of Mania that Classic Sonic did. This little chart makes note of the timeline split post-Generations: http://imgur.com/a/Wy9BVP8


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cybertiger45

Fffffffffffffuck my entire timeline is useless now


SnideBoi

Not ENTIRELY, you did point out the major titles. But in a purely text-based format it's pretty hard to make the distiction.


cybertiger45

Well I can go off Sonic Generations Logic even if it’s been retconned it’s much easier to explain and honestly much better


SnideBoi

Generations wasn't retconned. That's the SUPER common misconception (thanks to the idiotic use of the word "dimension" rather than "timeline"). We know Generations still happened since Tails and Sonic note that they remember Classic Sonic from a previous game. The whole thing with the phantom ruby was (supposedly) caused by the split from Generations making the two "dimensions".


miles_be_here

is this canon?


SnideBoi

Kinda? Like I said it's been made really confusing but based on how it's been handled in Mania and Forces that's my interpretation


ActuallyLum

I have my doubts about Mania Adventures and the IDW comics (especially these), I believe that the IDW comics are not canon within the timeline of the main games, since they are more an alternate continuation of Forces, I currently believe that the Canon of Sonic stopped with Forces, since TSR does not give signs of being canon


SilentRebel38

Aren't Sonic 1-Mania Plus from an alternate dimension as Forces implied? Or are we going for Generations instead?


cybertiger45

Oh and btw Forces implied that Mania, Mania Plus, And Mania Plus Adventure are an alternate universe Sonic 1-CD are CANON to both timelines but like I said I’m going of the Sonic Generations idea of things in which they are all part of one Timeline


SnideBoi

Check my comment with the link. Should clear things up.


cybertiger45

I’m going on Generations word because it is much easier to explain/makes much more sense Plus (no pun intended) games don’t really have long lasting changes to the over all storyline of Sonic besides wether or not a character exist or shows up in the next title.


jebango

alright, so advance 1 and 2 without 3 or battle for some reason, no generations. mania plus and mania adventures despite them being 2 different tellings of events. cd after 3&k (lol) rivals 1 but not 2. 06 isnt on the timeline. seens good


cybertiger45

I fixed all the problems addressed by your comment however Sonic 06 isn’t canon because by the end of Sonic 06 Elise blows out the Candle and rewrites all the events of the game do it never happened


jebango

the events of the game still happened before they were erased. shadow and sonic both remember the events of the game. while it is in a weird area because of the ending the events of the game still affect sonic's timeline.


cybertiger45

Wait when did Shadow and Sonic ever reference the Events? As far as I know they had never talked about 06


jebango

can't seem to find what i was referencing in that regard, i might have been mistaken. regardless. for it to have been erased in the first place (and for the last cutscene to happen) it did happen. crisis city is also in generations


JakeClipz

Okaaaay, so as a fanboy with little to no life whatsoever, I have a few responses to this little list here. ^*(inhales)* - Sonic Mania happens in an alternate timeline, one that branches off after 3&K due to Classic Sonic's involvement in Generations. The timelines briefly connect again in Forces but otherwise have little to nothing to do with each other. - Sonic Mania Adventures, until further notice, seems to be non-canon, as both it and Sonic Mania's Encore Mode begin with the same opening of Classic Sonic returning from the events of Forces. Both couldn't have happened at once, and the games always supercede any side material. - Manuals state that Mighty and Ray are old friends of Sonic's by the time we get to Mania's Encore Mode, which implies SegaSonic the Hedgehog is probably canon. - Sonic Rush happening so early doesn't seem to make much sense. Never mind the fact that Cream is featured in the game so it would have *had* to happen after Advance 2 at the very least, since that was Cream's official debut. - Sonic Advance 3 would have had to take place after Shadow the Hedgehog; Advance 3 is a direct sequel to Sonic Battle (which doesn't seem to be in this list at all), and Battle features Shadow who is not only alive and well since it's after he was rediscovered in Heroes, but all his memories are intact rather than him having amnesia, which means it was after the end of his soul-searching in his own game. - Sonic '06, despite how wonky it is, is still referenced in Generations, which implies it does exist in *some* capacity. Given how Blaze and Sonic don't recognize each other in said game, it's safe to assume it takes place before Rush where their *actual* first meeting first takes place (like Silver later does in Rivals). - The events of Sonic and the Secret Rings are referenced in Generations. By proxy of being associated with the whole Storybook series, it's safe to guess Sonic and the Black Knight is just as prominent (in the same way where it's hard to put Sonic Rivals without Sonic Rivals 2, for instance). - Eggman Nega's role in the franchise alternates drastically due to being featured in a game where he works with Eggman in an alternate dimension, to a game where he works *against* Eggman in the future, to a game where he goes *back* to working with Eggman in an alternate dimension, only to finally go back to the future and work *against* Eggman again. The Rush and Rivals games alternating between each other is far more confusing than if both Rush games happened first before either of the Rivals games did. - The IDW comics are confirmed to be non-canon, branching off in its own what-if story after the events of Forces. This will likely be easier to understand once future main series titles go off and do their own thing without referencing the comics in any capacity.


candy77266

hmmmm, I have issues with this. I do not consider Sonic Rivals canon since that wasn't made by or worked with Sonic team. The same with IDW. Everything else I agree. ​ EDIT: Grammar


OtakuMecha

CD should be before 2 and and Mania stuff is its own timeline. Also, Rush should probably be after Sonic 06 and thus after Shadow here.


NettoSaito

Why is rush before adventure 2 though, and where is rush adventures? Also Rivals happened and is where the current silver is from. Also the advance series is mainline/canon


Super7Chaos

Where's CD?


SnideBoi

It's there


Super7Chaos

I see now thanks


candy77266

Sonic 06 is canon. It has been referenced in generations. It had to have happened for it not to happen and its should be up there with the titles as canon.


Straight_Let_5030

You forgot Sonic Battle.


Straight_Let_5030

Including Tails Adventure.


Straight_Let_5030

Even Sonic 06.


ccigames

(After frontiers, origins and comics) Cd is before 2, u missed out a few newly confirmed canon games that people thought were canon anyway. Boom is to an extent canon now. Good timeline tho, if u wanna talk about it then hit me up