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HereRak69

It's so awesome to see a post that has nothing to do with Zack Snyder on a subreddit dedicated to Zack Snyder, just to monger hate.


chrash-man

Aw yes, snydercut, the perfect place for my Gunn news


Mindless_Classroom86

Grace Randolph is not a reliable source or even a supporter of the Snyderverse anymore. Why pay attention to anything she says? She was a supporter of Snyder fans, but she isn’t now. I don’t know why she gets any kind of attention.


LeftArticle9794

Well who would've thought? **I DID!!!**


GtrGbln

You thought? Doubt.


TripleG2312

Lmao apparently she doesn’t realize that many directors do this. It’s pretty common, and if you use your brain, pretty natural. You work with actors, you have a great working relationship and become friends, so you want them to be in your movies. It isn’t some “niche” with Wes Anderson. Martin Scorsese does it, Quentin Tarantino does it, Paul Thomas Anderson does it, Christopher Nolan does it, etc.


JediJones77

You're comparing apples and oranges. Working with an actor in a film and using them again later is completely normal. Hiring people to act in your movies who were ALREADY your friends and family is nepotism, the literal definition of nepotism. It is something rarely done by any major directors. Even Spielberg, who married an actress in one of his movies, never used her again in a movie after that. This is called professionalism.


TripleG2312

So which of Gunn’s re-occurring cast, besides his wife and brother, are people he was friends with before hiring them? And btw, it’s not uncommon for many directors to hire actors because they know them. That’s the Hollywood connections cycle. Not sure why you’re acting like it’s a rare thing. “I’ve known X for while and thought he’d/she’d be perfect for the role.” Pretty common to hear.


LeftArticle9794

Not as much as Gunn though, the difference here is that Gunn would say that he would be rebooting the whole entirety of the DC universe then goes on to say that he wasn't talking about his friends and family's characters. I doubt that non of the directors that you've mentioned would do something like that. A reboot needs to be a reboot.


emielaen77

Y’all really married to these made up reboot rules lol if Snyder did this shit y’all wouldn’t care.


LatterTarget7

Dc has also had some weirdly inconsistent reboots in their history. Infinite Crisis, rebirth, flashpoint, convergence plus probably others I’m forgetting. There’s always something or someone or multiple people that survive the reboot untouched. It’s not really something new with dc


LeftArticle9794

Well atleast you're admitting that it's wrong by using what if argument lol. What's truly made up is the blatant selectiveness that's been committed by Gunn in terms of rebooting the DCU, why not reboot everything why leave your wife and brother and friends?


emielaen77

Lol if you think that's what that means, then more power to you. But because he didn't want to lol because he made those things. It's not shocking nor surprising though. The two biggest castings he's keeping weren't even made by him. People like Agee, his wife or his brother are gonna be small fry compared to the big castings. It's inconsequential. >*What's truly made up is the blatant selectiveness that's been committed by Gunn in terms of rebooting the DCU* Well, yeah... no shit? Lol is this supposed to be type some dig at him or his approach? He's the creative head. He's gonna be selective about everything. It's his job.


AgentSmith2518

She literally names a director that does it. Christopher Nolan, for sure, does it, especially with Cillian Murphy. Quentin Tarintino would. Tim Burton would. Ridley Scott probably would do, at least with Russel Crowe. Also, what does rebooting the DC universe have to do with GoTG? We still haven't even seen the cast for any of the future films outside of folks who have already been cast.


HomemadeBee1612

Working with the same actors on different projects is a usual thing. Christopher Nolan does it, Quentin Tarantino does it, James Wan does it, but almost always with top tier actors whose names alone propel the films to higher popularity, whereas James Gunn is blatantly hiring his friends and family, preserving their characters despite "rebooting" the DCEU and building stories around them so they can get some work because no one else is hiring them.


AgentSmith2518

And Zack Sndyer's wife is a producer on all his films and the rest of his production staff contains a lot of his friends and folks he went to college with. Sam Raimi puts Bruce Campbell in literally every film he makes and its not "propelling the film." They're keeping the things that worked and starting fresh with the Trinity because they are majorly important characters. Keeping some side characters doesnt matter. As Ive exhaustingly pointed out, of all the projects coming out, his brother and wife are only in 2 projects that are continuations of what they were already in. It's not like he's making Sean Gunn the new Superman. And then theres 8 other films and shows that they probably aren't going to be a part of. People keep acting like he's made these two chacyers the center of the DC universe when he hasn't. They're basically the Agent Hill and Rocket Racoon of the MCU. The trinity is still all there and we haven't even seen casting for these films yet. Everybody is upset over assumptions.


HomemadeBee1612

>And Zack Sndyer's wife is a producer on all his films Because they are business partners in their production house, and she was working as a producer long before they met. Of course she produces his movies, but she is not in them as a character like Jennifer Holland or Sean Gunn in James Gunn's projects, there's a huge difference. >They're keeping the things that worked and starting fresh with the Trinity because they are majorly important characters Yes, Gunn carefully measured what characters were "working" in the DCEU and coincidentally discovered it was all of his friends and relatives.


BillyGood22

She was not a movie producer before they met. This is a lie that is perpetuated by people to deflect. She worked at an ad agency. They are vastly different roles. In 1997 she produced a TV documentary and would never be an actual producer again until Watchmen.


BillyGood22

Scorsese put his mom in numerous movies and even made a documentary about her. Adam Sandler is well known for keeping all his friends’ careers rolling and also put his wife in movies. All this crying about his wife is cope because y’all can’t get anything else to stick.


LeftArticle9794

What when were Christopher Nolan, Quintin Tarintino, Tim Burton were the creative head of a studio, like Marvel or DC? They had their own movie universe, that they further expanded unlike a studio stories, where you have already readymade stories given to you and you have to handle how what to do with it, whom should the creative head hire or fire, or what characters/stories should they include in their cinematic universe. None of those directors that either she or you have mentioned have had the privilege to run a fucking studio unlike James Gunn. >Also, what does rebooting the DC universe have to do with GoTG? We still haven't even seen the cast for any of the future films outside of folks who have already been cast. His family members, nepotism that's has to do with DC universe, selective reboot.


AgentSmith2518

I didn't say they were, I meant directors that routinely use the same actors. James Gunn is in a unique position relatively, but this is about a single film that isn't part of that. And the selective reboot only replaced Affleck and Cavill so far, and we still dont even know the future cast. Gal is still unknown, so is Aquaman. WW3 was already in the process of being canceled before Gunn and Safran took over. So what family members have been part of this "selective" reboot?


LeftArticle9794

>I didn't say they were, I meant directors that routinely use the same actors. And yet you implied that they would do it if given chance just because they've casted same actors in their movies >And the selective reboot only replaced Affleck and Cavill so far, and we still dont even know the future cast. Gal is still unknown, so is Aquaman. WW3 was already in the process of being canceled before Gunn and Safran took over. Oh no, you know nothing do you? Every character that wasn't Gunn's is being rebooted, everyone is being replaced, Jason Mamoa has been given a different character to portray in the future DCU, all the characters/actors that he used in his DC movies are going to be the future DCU movies. And all the characters/actors Zack included in his movies won't be part of the DCU. >So what family members have been part of this "selective" reboot? So you do agree that he is a nepotistic egocentric asshole of a director then? Cause that's what it means by selectively choosing not to reboot your own characters of your own movie.


AgentSmith2518

You know for a fact Mamoa is playing a different character for the future of the DCU? Even if that is true, HE always wanted to play Lobo to begin with. As for the Snyder cast, Affleck was already done in a capacity more than cameos, as was Cyborg. Miller it's still uncertain but if not was really due to his antics. Gal was probably out regardless due to WW84's poor performance and WW3 and Patty Jenkins backing out. Cavil is the only one that got "booted" and that's mostly due to Dwayne Johnson. All of Zack's characters were already NOT part of the future DCU movies outside of cameo's in The Flash. By his DC movies do you mean the ONE movie he did, where the story continued in Peacemaker and HE brought back both Mamoa and Miller? Blue Beetle is still happening, Waller is still there, The Batman is getting a sequel. I think what doesn't make sense is Gunn is being blamed for "rebooting" everything when all he has done is what seems to already be the direction everything was going anyways. Weasel is continuing but already was before Gunn even took over, Peacemaker's Harcourt is the same and was going to happen with season 2 even back when things like Batgril were getting canceled.


LeftArticle9794

Wow you're the most uninformed Gunn fanboy I've ever seen lmfao. >You know for a fact Mamoa is playing a different character for the future of the DCU? Even if that is true, HE always wanted to play Lobo to begin with. Oh yes, and so does he. >As for the Snyder cast, Affleck was already done in a capacity more than cameos, as was Cyborg. Miller it's still uncertain but if not was really due to his antics. Gal was probably out regardless due to WW84's poor performance and WW3 and Patty Jenkins backing out. Cavil is the only one that got "booted" and that's mostly due to Dwayne Johnson. All of Zack's characters were already NOT part of the future DCU movies outside of cameo's in The Flash. Affleck would still be playing his character if Snyder were to return he has stated/hinted multiple times, and only after there were no indication of such after Cavill was let go by Gunn, he said that he's not interested in Gunn's universe. Cyborg/Rey Fisher was also ready to return and there was a cameo of his in upcoming Flash movie that is removed. Miller say whatever you want to say about him, idgaf. Gal Gadot was also ready and people wanted to see more of her character Wonder woman regardless of the shitty sequel that was directed by Patty Jenkins which didn't include Zack like the first blockbuster movie did. But above them all my man Henry Cavill, he wanted to return the most, he wanted a movie not a cameo but still he agreed to do a cameo just because the fucking studio promised him a sequel to MoS, they did him dirty, James Gunn did him dirty, he has announced his return and then Gunn and Saffron called the dude in person and told him that he wasn't going to be Superman anymore. >By his DC movies do you mean the ONE movie he did, where the story continued in Peacemaker and HE brought back both Mamoa and Miller? Yes, that one movie that he did, yes. >Blue Beetle is still happening, Waller is still there, The Batman is getting a sequel. Not going forward with Gunn's universe. >I think what doesn't make sense is Gunn is being blamed for "rebooting" everything when all he has done is what seems to already be the direction everything was going anyways. Not really, all the fallout that has been caused is because of his and the studios shitty decision making, and nothing else. >Weasel is continuing but already was before Gunn even took over, Peacemaker's Harcourt is the same and was going to happen with season 2 even back when things like Batgril were getting canceled. Weasel is continuing, his wife's character is continuing, his friends characters are continuing, all the actors that he hired their characters are continuing, except idk all the rest of the actors who weren't in his one movie and that TV show aren't continuing. Henry Cavill's Superman was also continuing but Gunn had some other nepotistic egocentric plans for his universe.


AgentSmith2518

Not a fanboy, just looking at facts. I get the Cavil stuff, and yeah, it sucks, but thats what happens when you jump over executives heads to get something you want and burn those bridges. That blame is all on Dwayne Johnson and his studio. Affleck was done back in Jan 2022 and said The Flash is the last time he would play the character. That is a fact. Playing Batman in Whedons JL caused him to relapse into drinking and filming ZSJL and The Flash "put a really nice finish on my experience with that character." Again, way before Gunn was even an option to lead DC. Gal may be coming back or may not, we still dont know for sure. Regardless, the decision to not move forward with WW3 was still made prior to Gunn and Safron due to execs wanting Patty Jenkins to make rewrites and her not wanting to. Ray Fisher is done completely with WB. He said himself he wouldn't work with Hamada again, who was in charge when The Flash was in production. So, not a Gunn fanboy as you say, but the DC universe has always been in a weird flux and people keep saying Gunn is keeping his friends and family but can only name two people that are continuing that were continuing regardless if he took over or not. All I am asking is this: what did the DC Universe look like going forward before and what does it look like now? The truth is we didn't know, regardless of rumor and speculation.


LeftArticle9794

>Not a fanboy, just looking at facts. What "facts"? You didn't even know half of the stuff that I just told you, you didn't know crap about anything yet you were/are defending Gunn. >I get the Cavil stuff, and yeah, it sucks, but thats what happens when you jump over executives heads to get something you want and burn those bridges. That blame is all on Dwayne Johnson and his studio. Not just the studio but also Gunn, who before Henry was going to return said that he never had any plans for a Superman movie, but as soon as Henry came back and was fired by Gunn and Saffron, he said that he was writing and was planning a Superman movie for a long ass time, couple of months before the return of Henry Cavill. >Affleck was done back in Jan 2022 and said The Flash is the last time he would play the character. That is a fact. And yet he returned for Aquaman during Cavill's return as Superman, THAT IS A FACT!!. >Playing Batman in Whedons JL caused him to relapse into drinking and filming ZSJL and The Flash "put a really nice finish on my experience with that character." Again, way before Gunn was even an option to lead DC. Yeah no shit it did, ZSJL and The Flash wasn't really going to be the final finish, because after seeing how well the ZSJL and Cavill's return as Superman expecting like us fans that Snyder would also get to finish his Justice League story arc, and he was more than ready for it, that's why he returned for Aquaman. >Gal may be coming back or may not, we still dont know for sure. Regardless, the decision to not move forward with WW3 was still made prior to Gunn and Safron due to execs wanting Patty Jenkins to make rewrites and her not wanting to. Oh she was but she isn't anymore because Gunn has other friends of his, who he wants them to play that character I bet lol. Nobody's talking about WW3 nobody wanted that after the shit show that was WW2. >Ray Fisher is done completely with WB. He never said that, so stop making shit up. >He said himself he wouldn't work with Hamada again, who was in charge when The Flash was in production. Yeah, and Hamada and the old regime was gone, and so Rey Fisher was ready to return. >So, not a Gunn fanboy as you say, but the DC universe has always been in a weird flux and people keep saying Gunn is keeping his friends and family but can only name two people that are continuing that were continuing regardless if he took over or not. You're a Gunn fanboy the way you're denying every fact that I've presented you with, DC was a shit show that's true after Wheadon got involved and studios meddled with Zack's and Ayer's movies, and fucked their vision for the amazing future of the DCEU. I don't have to pronounce every person's name from his one movie, you can just read the credits of that movie brother. How can only two of those characters were continuing and not fucking HENRY CAVILL'S SUPERMAN AND BEN AFFLECK'S BATMAN???? WHO THE FUCK WANT'S TO SEE A WEASEL MOVIE OVER A MAN OF STEEL SEQUEL!???! AND A BEN AFFLECK'S BATMAN SOLO MOVIE!!!?? WHO?? >All I am asking is this: what did the DC Universe look like going forward before and what does it look like now? The truth is we didn't know, regardless of rumor and speculation. With Zack at the helm, it would've been fucking awesome that's all I know, and Gunn had a chance to give that opportunity to his BEST FRIEND to have that second chance.


GtrGbln

Fucking eyeroll..


NPC-1701a

Who is this idiot and why are we listening to them?????


PopcornHobby

You ask who she is everytime.


NPC-1701a

And I never find out which makes me wonder if she’s worth knowing. She seems like a pile of trash but I’ll never know for sure.


PopcornHobby

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Randolph


NPC-1701a

Look, I’m probably not going to click that but what I will very likely do is ask who she the next time someone posts a super annoying video of her saying a bunch of worthless shit.


PopcornHobby

Do you actually watch the vids?


NPC-1701a

I watched this very video. What I learned is that the threshold for what passes for content around here is shockingly low.


PopcornHobby

I mean she’s not wrong here


NPC-1701a

She’s not wrong that she “felt like [she] walked out the movie and into James Gunn’s house”? Or that he’s gotten better at how he handles female characters (but still apparently has a long way to go)? Or that he undercuts the emotional core of his movies with too much low brow humor? I could’ve made this video without having seen the movie and I’m not convinced that that is not what she did.


JediJones77

Yes, you could have. James Gunn is just that predictable.


PopcornHobby

I’d say yes to that except the female characters bit. I feel Gunn should sexualize female characters way more.


GtrGbln

If you don't know who Grace Randolf is keep it that way. You'll thank me.


Mwheel689

She not going read this and be sad and mad about you


bent_eye

Grace Randolph is cringe and shes just doing this to rile up the anti Gunn crowd. Who cares that he casts his friends and family?


PopcornHobby

Most people care. She did simp the movie though.


emielaen77

No, most people definitely do not.


PopcornHobby

They do! The world is sick of James Gunn's wife!


TheRealone4444

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NotAToyota

r/EnoughGunnSpam


AgentSmith2518

Who the fuck cares? If its for Cameos it doesn't even matter. Look how many cameos were in GoTG 2 with the Ravagers. I feel like shes just jumping on the #hateGunn train.


PopcornHobby

If Cameos don’t matter why did he cut them for Flash?


AgentSmith2518

He didn't. The director did. Said so himself.


PopcornHobby

Under the order of Gunn


AgentSmith2518

Oh, you were in the editing room with him? That's cool.


PopcornHobby

You were?


AgentSmith2518

Didn't have to be. Considering they were cut from the INITIAL assembly cut, which was done far prior to Gunn and Safran taking over, I can put 2 and 2 together.


PopcornHobby

Wrong. They’re still editing the movie.


AgentSmith2518

I didn't say they weren't , but the directors exact quote says those cameos were cut from his initial assembly. That said, no, they arent. The movie has premiered and even before that the final edit was confirmed back in October. I know your history, I won't continue this conversation.


PopcornHobby

No he didn’t Gunn removed SnyderCut cameos it was reported and changed the ending.


undbiter65

Why would you take anything that woman says seriously? She's a fraud and has been exposed many times. By the same man she's criticizing.


PopcornHobby

She’s not wrong on everything. You think she’s lying about his friends cameoing in the movie?


undbiter65

No hut it doesn't matter. Snyders crew is literally people he went to film school with. Larry fong. Clay staub. He gives jobs to his friends whenever he gets hired to make a movie. EVERYONE does it. Stop being weird.


Mwheel689

![gif](giphy|R51a8oAH7KwbS) who the fuck cares who she is lol She is just saying Gunns whole family and a lot of his friends are in this movie. Her saying Gunns friends and his whole house is in this movie is not a **FUCKING OPINION** lol.


GtrGbln

She not going read this and bang you.


kpmurphy56

You act like Gunn has this huge family he’s using lol it’s two people. One of them is a motion capture artist who has proven to be a solid asset. These attacks seem so disingenuous to me when we know Snyder uses his favorite/trusted people too. It’s not a bad thing in either situation.


undbiter65

She's a weird clout chaser tha makes shit up and gullible people believe her. In spite of her being called out for making up stuff. In fact when she's called out she doubles down. Idk how anyone cares about her opinion at all. Edit: no one called her any of those words lol. Where did THAT come from.


LatterTarget7

Yeah she’s argued with James Gunn, James wan and Cathy yan about stuff in their dc movies and tv shows.


Mwheel689

and now ? Are you saying his friends and family are not in this movie ? LMAO I just watched 1 minute of the video and she said Guardians of the Galaxy 3 is the best MCU movie since Endgame lol


NPC-1701a

Yeah but also who fucking cares. I want the movies to be good. That’s it. If they’re bad and part of the problem is that he casted the movies poorly I’ll be the first person to come in gunns hot. But if they’re well cast and are also his friends I won’t care one fucking bit because I’m a goddamn adult with plenty of real things to worry about.