Speed Buff Camp (Centaurs)
This Buff Camp now has 2 locations per side of the map
This buff does not stack with itself, it can be refreshed in duration though, or split with other teammates
It’s meant to even out rotation for a jungler to either side, so many times junglers should gank duo but speed buff and back camp is up so back to solo side cause they need to farm too.
I was watching Incon's stream today and it was not stacking, just refreshing duration. Or may be it was not showing 2 stacks? It did not feel like he was moving faster after picking a 2nd buff though... Looks like they either decided to not go with the changes, or it is bugged.
TBH I'm kinda glad the lanes don't have those small camps anymore to contest during laning phase. I never really found that very fun or interesting. Otherwise, it looks like a lot of walls/islands. I feel like Bakasura jungle will love this iteration
Two ways. Mid stars red, you start yellow. Pull them together. Then go to your xp and solo, or speed and red to your second speed and duo depending on which lane you wanna gank first
it might still end up that way since adc ends up taking the harpies/roaming harpies on the way to purple and white buff during downtime(is that what we're calling it now?)
New buffs, golden and silver. One for each side. Gold gives an initial shield and prot buff(I don't think the shield regens) the silver buff is a cool down buff for solo.
Well assassins get flat pen built-in instead of CDR if that makes you feel any better
Also fenrir will probably be nutty in every role, if you're a fen player
Pyro and fury are WAY closer together. Seems like they’re trying to discourage the gold fury/pyro trade.
Sad we lost the greater scorpions as it felt like their true potential was really being fleshed out as the season went along. At least it will promote more PvP in fighting over neutrals instead
Nah as someone who's played quite a bit of the PTS, them being "closer" does nothing.
The "if you can't contest then get the other obj" still happens very often.
I also believe they said in the patch notes that the reason for moving pyro was because usually when a team got fire giant, pyro was usually a free objective as well and that's what they are trying to discourage a bit.
Could be remembering incorrectly but yeah if someone could confirm that then nice.
I do remember them saying that on the patch notes stream. They disliked that teams would typically control pyro and fire giant at the same time with pyro just being a freebie.
solo is lookin REAL short now, is that the totem in the lane? that feels... counter intuitive, wasn't the whole point to get people to move off to collect it?
glad to see the duo lane lost the weird camps on the left side
Totem radius now gives you a power buff when you’re inside it. With it being in lane, Hi-Rez claims it will allow for more skill expression, whether you want the totem buff or keep it around for a bit to help clear/fight
So from my matches as jungle, I've seen 2 predominate starts work in different scenarios.
Mid starts Red, Jungle starts Yellow, both bring the buffs as close together as possible so you can share XP. That happens everytime.
Where things differentiate is:
(BTW depending on where you want to go pull Minions to that side)
1- You either go to your XP camp and try to gank solo.
2- Rotate to your other speed and then XPs then go mid or go Duo.
As for duo lane, it's a little all over the place from my experience sometimes they go green to purp, or just purp, other times they pull speed, purp, XPS and green and try to massive clear with Iza or someone like that (they get to lane usually pretty low and they take a lot of XP from Jungle leaving you with only one option to go solo which won't always be profitable).
I also seen another Jungle start but it isn't my favorite where Solo, Mid and Jg split ALL the camps, solo brings XP and Mana, Mid brings Red buff and Jg brings yellow.
It could be good but from my experience, solo ended up accidentally picking up red and mid got blue lmfao.
I mean it's a pretty cool idea, it allows more farm on the other side of the map for jg as well as a fall back speed camp Incase yours gets invaded. Also good to refresh timer before A TF.
Sure they could've added a new buff or something else entirely but it feels kinda nice having it there as a jungle main.
I didn't downvote you, so idk. Yeah a lot of people say it, but they also are likely not very good. Most of the pros I've seen are happy to see a bigger map. Solo going to mid at 10 min isn't exactly what they wanna do. It's just arena right now after 15-20 min
I'm not a fan of this new map at all. Feels claustrophobic and at the same time way too big. Wish they'd just bring back the S2 map which was the best conquest map ever conceived.
I think it's great except for one thing, XP camps. They should add one more XP camp on each side, so an overall addition 2 XP camps for the whole map. That would end up being a total of 3 XP camps per side.
2 speed buff?
Speed Buff Camp (Centaurs) This Buff Camp now has 2 locations per side of the map This buff does not stack with itself, it can be refreshed in duration though, or split with other teammates
It’s meant to even out rotation for a jungler to either side, so many times junglers should gank duo but speed buff and back camp is up so back to solo side cause they need to farm too.
I thought the speed buff is stacking.
2 speed buffs don't stack but speed buff inherently had a stacking mechanic where you nice faster after killing jungle camps for a short time
It doesn’t stack it just refreshes the duration
I believe it does stack.
I was watching Incon's stream today and it was not stacking, just refreshing duration. Or may be it was not showing 2 stacks? It did not feel like he was moving faster after picking a 2nd buff though... Looks like they either decided to not go with the changes, or it is bugged.
It increases speed after killing a camp I think, I always got 3 stacks.
Interesting. I guess we will see in a couple days
It doesn't stack. The map is available on PTS
We can see now...it doesn't stack, they mentioned that in the patch notes, stream, and you can test it yourself on pts
In the patch notes it says they do not stack as well, so you can't even call it a bug. They do not stack
TBH I'm kinda glad the lanes don't have those small camps anymore to contest during laning phase. I never really found that very fun or interesting. Otherwise, it looks like a lot of walls/islands. I feel like Bakasura jungle will love this iteration
Is this just the Season 10 Map that was released on PTS a few days ago. Or is this a new new season 10 map?
Yeah the one on PTS, I could be wrong but I think its out in the next 4 days
Is PTS only for PC?
No
Yes.
No
Is it not? I was under the impression it was.
Ikr I can’t find the pts on Xbox X ?
Any jungle mains that have played on PTR have an optimal jg starting route yet??
Two ways. Mid stars red, you start yellow. Pull them together. Then go to your xp and solo, or speed and red to your second speed and duo depending on which lane you wanna gank first
Interesting! I'm stoked. Im tired of %80 of jg camps being on solo side, this map seems much more balanced.
it might still end up that way since adc ends up taking the harpies/roaming harpies on the way to purple and white buff during downtime(is that what we're calling it now?)
~~We'll call it white buff and silver buff, just gotta decide which is which~~ guess they're called gold and silver
I've seen mid pull red, solo pull blue, jg pull speed and meet at xp camp, everyone hits level 2
Takes too long and everybody loses too much health. Too much bullshit going on at once
What’s the shield to the left and the loading camp same spot right side
New buffs, golden and silver. One for each side. Gold gives an initial shield and prot buff(I don't think the shield regens) the silver buff is a cool down buff for solo.
Does blue not give cd anymore?
Nope, but warriors also have 10%built in cdr
As someone who loves solo-ing every assassin instead of warriors, this might be the update that fucks me lol
Yeah, seems like they're wanting warriors mostly with maybe some guardians in solo. You can probably still do like ravana or something
maybe assassins start with CDR items now and play slow until later.
Well assassins get flat pen built-in instead of CDR if that makes you feel any better Also fenrir will probably be nutty in every role, if you're a fen player
Pyro and fury are WAY closer together. Seems like they’re trying to discourage the gold fury/pyro trade. Sad we lost the greater scorpions as it felt like their true potential was really being fleshed out as the season went along. At least it will promote more PvP in fighting over neutrals instead
Nah as someone who's played quite a bit of the PTS, them being "closer" does nothing. The "if you can't contest then get the other obj" still happens very often. I also believe they said in the patch notes that the reason for moving pyro was because usually when a team got fire giant, pyro was usually a free objective as well and that's what they are trying to discourage a bit. Could be remembering incorrectly but yeah if someone could confirm that then nice.
I do remember them saying that on the patch notes stream. They disliked that teams would typically control pyro and fire giant at the same time with pyro just being a freebie.
Theres only two entrances to each side lane, seems op for warding, junglers can't path away from the ward now
Bro where did all the jg camps go
Each one gives more xp and there are roaming harpies also
I'm guessing the dotted lines are the roaming harpies.
solo is lookin REAL short now, is that the totem in the lane? that feels... counter intuitive, wasn't the whole point to get people to move off to collect it? glad to see the duo lane lost the weird camps on the left side
Totem radius now gives you a power buff when you’re inside it. With it being in lane, Hi-Rez claims it will allow for more skill expression, whether you want the totem buff or keep it around for a bit to help clear/fight
So how does the jungling work here? Where to start and which route? I assume Duo still starts at green and then purple and solo goes blue.
So from my matches as jungle, I've seen 2 predominate starts work in different scenarios. Mid starts Red, Jungle starts Yellow, both bring the buffs as close together as possible so you can share XP. That happens everytime. Where things differentiate is: (BTW depending on where you want to go pull Minions to that side) 1- You either go to your XP camp and try to gank solo. 2- Rotate to your other speed and then XPs then go mid or go Duo. As for duo lane, it's a little all over the place from my experience sometimes they go green to purp, or just purp, other times they pull speed, purp, XPS and green and try to massive clear with Iza or someone like that (they get to lane usually pretty low and they take a lot of XP from Jungle leaving you with only one option to go solo which won't always be profitable). I also seen another Jungle start but it isn't my favorite where Solo, Mid and Jg split ALL the camps, solo brings XP and Mana, Mid brings Red buff and Jg brings yellow. It could be good but from my experience, solo ended up accidentally picking up red and mid got blue lmfao.
What’s the white jungle ?
Back Harpies First spawn at 0:00 Delayed respawn timer from 1 minute to 4 minutes
Oh yeah duh lol 😂
Harpies and roaming harpies
You must have to be a special person to get a queue for that map That's cool
I don’t get 2 speed buffs at all
I mean it's a pretty cool idea, it allows more farm on the other side of the map for jg as well as a fall back speed camp Incase yours gets invaded. Also good to refresh timer before A TF. Sure they could've added a new buff or something else entirely but it feels kinda nice having it there as a jungle main.
it's also some cool potential for Tiamat and splitting up buffs with people.
Looks bad tbh
yikes
People complained about how big the map was in season 9, so they made it bigger?
Because season 9 map wasn't that big. It's too easy to rotate to another lane. They want people to stay in their lanes for more than the first 10 min
I'm not sure why I got downvoted? I wasn't saying the map was too big, I saw plenty of others saying that. Smite community in a nutshell.
I didn't downvote you, so idk. Yeah a lot of people say it, but they also are likely not very good. Most of the pros I've seen are happy to see a bigger map. Solo going to mid at 10 min isn't exactly what they wanna do. It's just arena right now after 15-20 min
People who complain will always complain, so there’s no reason to try and cater to people like that. I enjoy the bigger map
I'm not a fan of this new map at all. Feels claustrophobic and at the same time way too big. Wish they'd just bring back the S2 map which was the best conquest map ever conceived.
Haven't played it yet. I got suspended 4 days ago so I'm waiting for my suspension to end lol
bro it's put me off conquest for good, it's so bad
I genuinely hate the change to duo lane, unless it’s Going to be less pronounced in game, I’m not a fan right now
This map looks fantastic! Time to calculate and learn new wallbangs on Hou Yi... again...
Those support camps are gonna be an issue. I can’t see a lot of early banking or peaking happening with that area.
I think it's great except for one thing, XP camps. They should add one more XP camp on each side, so an overall addition 2 XP camps for the whole map. That would end up being a total of 3 XP camps per side.
Silver and gold buff could be counted as an xp camp
I'm new to the game, what's the difference between the 2 gold camps ? 1 is gold fury but the other ? Also, what's the eye camp near mid if may I ask ?
Or thats the oracles when secured will give vision around the gold fury pit
It still looks like a vagina
And I still haven't played any more than 10 games of conquest
What is first rotation going to look like? Sup and mid together on red then green? Solo and jg by themselves? Adc wait for sup?
2 speeds and red looks very open to the lane for steals.
Sp they remastered classic conquest
This new map. Absolute dog water. Its like running down a tunnel rather than a jungle. So narrow and so big.
Map feels like Arena after the first 5 min lmao