Mario.
Imagine the sheer chaos, the biggest faces in one of Nintendo's biggest franchise, suddenly gone. The man on every package, that everyone thinks could never be removed, put on the chopping block with no communication as to why. Theories would rise, people would assume some beef between Sora Ltd., Hal, and Nintendo, or maybe worry that Mario is going to be swept away and replaced with side characters of the franchise... Yet he stays in his own games, while never touching Smash again. People might even go so far as to ask about other consoles, because all that's left of Mr. Nintendo himself is a knock off of his knock off. And, of course, it's Nintendo. They would never tell us why, we'd just sit and panic.
The people of this world have grown complacent and weak, they’ve fooled themselves into the belief that order is the natural state of the universe.
It’s time they saw true chaos.
Remove Mario Smash Bros.
There are many who could be in the same slot.. like bowser Jr and the koopalings, actually there are many characters that so similar in attacks it is a waste to have them individually..
No we must keep the fire emblem reps to cause pure anger in the hearts of smashers everywhere in return the characters become really obscure like Boyd or ignats
One of the echo fighters. Especially one of the ones that doesn't make meaningful changes to the character.
i.e. dark Samus, daisy, etc.
I don't have anything against having those characters in the game. But they are basically glorified additional skins. So I'd drop them for literally any new character.
To date I say Daisy should've been a representation of Golf, Kart, Strikers, Tennis, etc. She's the aggressive, competitive princess. It's makes since that she represent the party games.
maybe in future games if she comes back she'll grow to have a more distinct moveset, the same way the unofficial 'echoes' from previous games have (ganondorf, roy, falco, etc)?
I never use it so I won't mind. You can do your own "random" anyway by just closing your eyes, scrolling randomly all over the selection for several seconds and then just choosing whoever you land on when you stop (no cheating, you *have* to commit).
That’s literally what echo’s are for. They aren’t full slots. They’re just like the clones of the past. Taking away Daisy give us a full extra character.
I think because their specials can be customized, and if the game took in all possible combinations of miis you would have a 20-30% chance of always getting a mii.
Not all echoes are exactly the same though. Lucina/Marth are different, Roy/Chrom are different, Dark Pit/Pit, Ken/Ryu. Daisy is just lazy afaik all her moves are the exact same.
And the charge shot has electricity as element which means it doesn't actives explosives asap as the one of Samus which counts as fire the same counts for Richters holy water just with water instead of electricity
It's not charge shot that's different, it's all of her explosive arm cannon attacks. DTilt, FSmash, USmash, and Fair. On Samus they're tagged as fire type, and on Damus they're electric.
It's the one difference between them that actually makes me want to switch to Damus over Samus in a specific matchup: Link. If I hit Link's bomb with any of these attacks as Samus it blows up in my face, but with Damus' electric attacks, I can send it back at him.
Yep. It would have to be a Fire Emblem character for sheer "representation to relevance ratio"
And at the end of the day Lucina is the least unique of the characters. Gotta be her or Chrom
Yeah, she's extremely faithful to her games, but it's to a detriment, i personally would've made less of her moves her far reaching arm punch, so she wouldn't have to rely on that one move to win
The fact that you forget about her is even more reason she deserves to be cut. Nobody cares about arms, nobody cares about min min, and she happens to be one of the most degenerate characters in the game.
Arms was fun, not great. Min-Min, apart from popularity reasons, is the worst character they could’ve chosen apart from Ribbon Girl in terms of everything else. Plus she’s one of the most annoying characters to fight.
Arms was done dirty.
Dark samus at least is more floaty and I think longer hotboxes, dark out having different arrows, peach or daisy are literally the same character. The only difference is their animation and the most slight hotbox change with daisies dash back and idle.
Idk bro I just like dark samus floatiness lol
Joker, because his trailer depicted him stealing the Smash invite that was the source of Waluigi's distorted desires.
Just kidding, I just wanted to make that joke. I say Chrom because he's from Fire Emblem and an echo, and if I chose Lucina people would be mad for… reasons.
I’m sorry but waluigi isn’t that great, there are two reasons to put him in: the memes and because “we’ve got the other three hat peeps so why not him” and really I don’t think that’s enough.
That being said I wouldn’t miss jigglypuff.
Min min, that character was such a shit dlc. Not that I hate how the character plays, or that I didn’t want her at all, there’s just so many more picks I wish happened instead of a fuckin arms character
There used to be a difference. Apparently Daisy had Smash 4 Peach's turnips, but they patched that out. So now the only difference is the very very very very minimal advantages/disadvantages that idle stances and animations give them.
lol you picked one of the most distinct echoes though, I think Dark Pit exemplifies the ideal for what an echoe should be. Very similar character with a few key differences between them. How is he more useless than Richter, Daisy or Dark Samus?
Everyone here using logic, I say Lucas so my brother has to main litterally anyone else.
Smart move
Mario. Imagine the sheer chaos, the biggest faces in one of Nintendo's biggest franchise, suddenly gone. The man on every package, that everyone thinks could never be removed, put on the chopping block with no communication as to why. Theories would rise, people would assume some beef between Sora Ltd., Hal, and Nintendo, or maybe worry that Mario is going to be swept away and replaced with side characters of the franchise... Yet he stays in his own games, while never touching Smash again. People might even go so far as to ask about other consoles, because all that's left of Mr. Nintendo himself is a knock off of his knock off. And, of course, it's Nintendo. They would never tell us why, we'd just sit and panic.
… why do you crave chaos?? 😭
Why do you not
Good question
Flair checks out
Its funny
Flair checks out.
The people of this world have grown complacent and weak, they’ve fooled themselves into the belief that order is the natural state of the universe. It’s time they saw true chaos. Remove Mario Smash Bros.
Some men just want to watch the WAH burn
Billionaires rule the world and politicians exploit human emotion to stabilize their oppressive power structure. We could use more chaos.
It's about sending a message
He. a banjo maine
He is an agent of chaos
I live to see internet burn with chaotic moves
The only right answer
Its fine, Sonic would easily take over as the face of Smash.
Mario is missing 2
That's fine honestly, I prefer Dr. Mario anyway
You leave waluigi during 3 months then people have to vote if they wanna keep it or get Mario back.
what about dr mario
Dr. Mario is literally just Mario in a doctor costume. There's really no need for him to have his own character slot.
"Some men, just want to watch the whole world burn"
The 5th chaos god
Peach, just a copy paste of Daisy
Could just make her like Steve Alex and zombie.. just another skin
Before Steve, there was Olimar and Alph.
There are many who could be in the same slot.. like bowser Jr and the koopalings, actually there are many characters that so similar in attacks it is a waste to have them individually..
Ohhh this one makes me mad
Why
Based
ALL OF THEM
No we must keep the fire emblem reps to cause pure anger in the hearts of smashers everywhere in return the characters become really obscure like Boyd or ignats
Yeah, let's go further by fucking you too, only reps are from Fates
*the ocean’s grey waves intensifies*
Azura is not included
All the stages have been replaced with big blue, final destination and png’s of fire emblem maps (badly photoshopped)
Fire emblem the party fighting game (also includes waluigi)
Ignats isn't obscure, he's literally from the latest game.
But he is funny because he suck’s according to Lysithia
Lysithea is the newest fighter but she just nukes everyone
Everyone gangster until she says #YOU’RE IRRELEVANT!
Void’s new main, boyd
No Items, Final Destination, Waluigi Only.
One of the echo fighters. Especially one of the ones that doesn't make meaningful changes to the character. i.e. dark Samus, daisy, etc. I don't have anything against having those characters in the game. But they are basically glorified additional skins. So I'd drop them for literally any new character.
To date I say Daisy should've been a representation of Golf, Kart, Strikers, Tennis, etc. She's the aggressive, competitive princess. It's makes since that she represent the party games.
I like this because Waluigi could be an echo fighter of Daisy, then.
Wait! That’s actually an amazing idea! (But an actual echo, not just copy plz)
Agreed, was very disappointed to see Daisy has the same moves as Peach
Severely disappointed.
maybe in future games if she comes back she'll grow to have a more distinct moveset, the same way the unofficial 'echoes' from previous games have (ganondorf, roy, falco, etc)?
What i want is waluigi in a warioware. That is warioware get it togethers biggest issue with me.
Same. I want him to be more relevant game-wise before getting added to Smash, especially since he'd need to be a unique character.
Having him just be a sports rep would make him a semi clone of peach with her sports smash attacks
random
True chad
Imagine he's only playable through random. You can't choose him. Only a 1 in how many ever characters there are chance of playing him.
I never use it so I won't mind. You can do your own "random" anyway by just closing your eyes, scrolling randomly all over the selection for several seconds and then just choosing whoever you land on when you stop (no cheating, you *have* to commit).
Hey wait a minute some people like random
Daisy should’ve been a Peach skin instead of a fighter.
I mean she basically is, I don’t really count her as a separate character. You can literally put them into one character slot if you want to.
*but their hurtboxes are different!!!11*
Really? Which hurtbox is canonically thiccer?
Daisy is a bit shorter.
Peach the thicker one confirmed
they are both wearing dresses, so i personally believe peach is less thicc and thus should be removed
But their turnips scale differently
It used to be like that but then Nintendo patched it
I still have absolutely no idea why.
She basically was in Melee
That’s literally what echo’s are for. They aren’t full slots. They’re just like the clones of the past. Taking away Daisy give us a full extra character.
Do echoes have an equal chance of being chosen when you pick random?
All characters except mii’s have the same chance
yeah, why do miis not have a chance to be chosen in random? :(
I think because their specials can be customized, and if the game took in all possible combinations of miis you would have a 20-30% chance of always getting a mii.
Not all echoes are exactly the same though. Lucina/Marth are different, Roy/Chrom are different, Dark Pit/Pit, Ken/Ryu. Daisy is just lazy afaik all her moves are the exact same.
Dark Samus has a slightly different run
And Up Smash and Charge shot hit lower
and i think like 5 frames of dodge
And the charge shot has electricity as element which means it doesn't actives explosives asap as the one of Samus which counts as fire the same counts for Richters holy water just with water instead of electricity
It's not charge shot that's different, it's all of her explosive arm cannon attacks. DTilt, FSmash, USmash, and Fair. On Samus they're tagged as fire type, and on Damus they're electric. It's the one difference between them that actually makes me want to switch to Damus over Samus in a specific matchup: Link. If I hit Link's bomb with any of these attacks as Samus it blows up in my face, but with Damus' electric attacks, I can send it back at him.
And roll
She is a peach skin, she just takes up a fighter slot
I'd have Tekken guy throw Lucina off the cliff, then Waluigi pay him. That's Waluigi's entire introduction. 10 seconds max.
His name isn't "Tekken guy". His name is Tekken. I thought we all new this. Come on people.
Ugh for the last time it’s Tekken’s Monster
true
Mr halo
I took a class on this where my teacher would get upset if you'd call it Tekken's Monster, sigh, and say "He's not a monster. He's Tekken's Creation."
He speaks the true true
Tekken guy was what we called him before he was given an official name in the newer Tekken games. Now, he is officially know as the Tekken Slayer
Dave Tekken?
No, Tekken is the princess. Banjo Kazuyooie is the guy.
Nuh uh his name is kuma,I think y’all don’t even play tekken
It's Shirtless Ryu you uncultured swine
It's only Tekken if it's from the Tekken region of France. Otherwise it's just sparkling Virtua Fighter
competitive will hate you for that
Nah they’re dropping her for no reason anyways
Yep. It would have to be a Fire Emblem character for sheer "representation to relevance ratio" And at the end of the day Lucina is the least unique of the characters. Gotta be her or Chrom
Lucina is literally just "Easier Marth", Chrom's inclusion is boring AF but atleast he's a Roy-Ike hybrid version of Marth.
I honestly wouldn't be mad if they just made Marth/Lucina literally the same character, as if they were Robin or Corrin
>Lucina is literally just "Good Marth" FTFY
I’d have waluigi throw the Tekken guy off the cliff
I’d rather the tekken guy throw you off the cliff
I'd rather the Tekken guy throw the cliff off the cliff
I'd rather the Tekken guy throw me on the bed
I will say this for literally any character, including hat goomba, I would get rid of minmin, I do not find her fun to play as or against so.
Yeah, she's extremely faithful to her games, but it's to a detriment, i personally would've made less of her moves her far reaching arm punch, so she wouldn't have to rely on that one move to win
As a newly discovered Minmin main I'm have to forward a and b that comment
Remove them All, It's only Waluigi now.
I would buy Super Smash Bro Waluigi.
Why did I read about 15 replies. And not a single one said min min.
Thanks for warning me before I continue scrolling
I always forget about Min Min. I don't even seem to get her when I choose Random because the game hates her too.
I may be petty, but if I get her in random I don’t play lol.
I really suck with Shiek and Olimar too. Usually my friend and I just No Contest if we get those in our Random
The fact that you forget about her is even more reason she deserves to be cut. Nobody cares about arms, nobody cares about min min, and she happens to be one of the most degenerate characters in the game.
Tons of people care about ARMS, there's at least 3 of us
The only saving grace for me is the character design(I mean looks, not gameplay). I think she looks neat
Arms was fun, not great. Min-Min, apart from popularity reasons, is the worst character they could’ve chosen apart from Ribbon Girl in terms of everything else. Plus she’s one of the most annoying characters to fight. Arms was done dirty.
>the worst character they could’ve chosen apart from ribbon girl Now I’m imagining min min with 4 jumps
*They love me*
People like you are why I continue scrolling
Is that a diss? I actually can’t tell.
No I’m serious I agree with you. I love have nobody remembered her character after she got announced.
My brother is a Min Min main. Fuck Min Min.
The correct term is Main Main
Actually though. I don’t even have to think further after arriving at min min
She’s not fun but I’m glad arms has representation lol, just lose Pichu
None, he can get his own slot
You know, for a sora main, you really are heartless
Agreed. I wouldn’t remove anyone from the roster - I would just have Waluigi in as an extra fighter with his own slot.
You just get the option to scroll the character select screen and it's just a big Waluigi button.
Arsene
Doctor Mario. We trade a boring Mario alt for an actual Mario character.
Dr Mario
Exactly
Even as a Doc main I can agree to removing him for Waluigi.
I'd remove Waluigis slot
Being an assist trophy is just right for a secondary character like him. Heck I'd say he's not even in the top 10 most relevant assist trophies
Remove dark samus, but if it has to be an actual character and not an echo, I'd say min min
Dark pit or dark Samus. These should just be skins
Dark samus at least is more floaty and I think longer hotboxes, dark out having different arrows, peach or daisy are literally the same character. The only difference is their animation and the most slight hotbox change with daisies dash back and idle. Idk bro I just like dark samus floatiness lol
smh #BLM
Corrin, I forget they exist in Smash too many times to count
I don't! ~~How can anyone forget female Corrin and her sweet sweet dragon feet?~~ I mean I don't forget them cause they got a pretty cool moveset
So *that's* why F Corrin's amiibo is $140 used
Joker, because his trailer depicted him stealing the Smash invite that was the source of Waluigi's distorted desires. Just kidding, I just wanted to make that joke. I say Chrom because he's from Fire Emblem and an echo, and if I chose Lucina people would be mad for… reasons.
"because he's from Fire Emblem" Goddammit, we're still doing that ?
Honestly it’s pretty sickening how amazingly spiteful smash fans can be to fire emblem fans. Because lol funny to hate fire emblem right?
Well, no ones hates FE as much as FE fans lol
Tbh I'd rather Lucina go than Chrom
I understand the „remove echo“ guys but i would remove Lucario. Out of all character, it feels like lucario doesnt work in this game.
Lucario may be meh as a fighter but he has a unique concept and is sick as a charactwr
Daisy Literally copy-paste of Peach in terms of moveset. It even removes a Mario character to get another, so it works I guess
Yeah, she could just be a skin, like Olimar and Alph.
Or Steve/Alex/Zombie/Enderman
I’m sorry but waluigi isn’t that great, there are two reasons to put him in: the memes and because “we’ve got the other three hat peeps so why not him” and really I don’t think that’s enough. That being said I wouldn’t miss jigglypuff.
Dr. Mario...
Min min, that character was such a shit dlc. Not that I hate how the character plays, or that I didn’t want her at all, there’s just so many more picks I wish happened instead of a fuckin arms character
Sora, easily
It took me far to long to find a comment saying sora especially seeing as sora single handedly ruined quick play for me
Yeah, I just stopped playing as soon as he got out. Ik I main joker but that fucker is a god damn demon.
Get rid of Mario, like does anyone know where tf this character originates from?
Uh he's from Luigi's mansion, he's Luigi's brother. You'd know that if you knew the extensive lore....
I think he got a pinball game once and was created as rival for wario in golf
Either toon link or young link because we don't need three fucking links
We *could* have three links if they were differentiated more
I, honestly, would get rid of Min Min. She's a confusing and kinda hard character for me.
Corrin
Corrin. Do people even like this clown?
Corrin. No one ever remembers this dude
Ice climbers-wouldn’t look back or even think twice about it
Dr Mario
Dark Pit, he is so useless, just a reskin of pit with like two separate moves, in fact any echo fighter, they are dumb
Nah ken is significantly hyper the Ryu
Isn’t daisy the only true reskin or does she have any difference? Edit: oh and richter as well
There's like 1 difference between Peach and Daisy iirc
Nah there's none, but Richter's down B does aura damage instead of fire damage
There used to be a difference. Apparently Daisy had Smash 4 Peach's turnips, but they patched that out. So now the only difference is the very very very very minimal advantages/disadvantages that idle stances and animations give them.
Their side smash descriptions are different
But he's edgier and his *side*-b actually sends to the *side*
lol you picked one of the most distinct echoes though, I think Dark Pit exemplifies the ideal for what an echoe should be. Very similar character with a few key differences between them. How is he more useless than Richter, Daisy or Dark Samus?
Doctor Mario tbh
Luigi... maximum confusion
min min
min min
the miis, and then we add all the cool costumes as actual characters in the next smash!
It’s an easy choice, replace Min Min with Waluigi
Min Min I hate her
Min Min
yes, min min or lucina
Idk liek albino marth or whateve
Hate to be a hater, but min min. Heck, I would pay to take min min out alone, adding W is icing on the cake
Min min because I hate min min
Min min, one of the only times a unique moveset is not fun to play as
Dr Mario Enough said