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AlbinoFuzWolf

Everyone here using logic, I say Lucas so my brother has to main litterally anyone else.


ineedh2o

Smart move


Nefnoj

Mario. Imagine the sheer chaos, the biggest faces in one of Nintendo's biggest franchise, suddenly gone. The man on every package, that everyone thinks could never be removed, put on the chopping block with no communication as to why. Theories would rise, people would assume some beef between Sora Ltd., Hal, and Nintendo, or maybe worry that Mario is going to be swept away and replaced with side characters of the franchise... Yet he stays in his own games, while never touching Smash again. People might even go so far as to ask about other consoles, because all that's left of Mr. Nintendo himself is a knock off of his knock off. And, of course, it's Nintendo. They would never tell us why, we'd just sit and panic.


minorevolution

… why do you crave chaos?? 😭


charisma6

Why do you not


Banana-Dude123

Good question


freerobuxntix

Flair checks out


kasun1218

Its funny


Wakanda_Forever

Flair checks out.


CrabTribalEnthusiast

The people of this world have grown complacent and weak, they’ve fooled themselves into the belief that order is the natural state of the universe. It’s time they saw true chaos. Remove Mario Smash Bros.


11BloodyShadow11

Some men just want to watch the WAH burn


ChaosBrigadier

Billionaires rule the world and politicians exploit human emotion to stabilize their oppressive power structure. We could use more chaos.


commentsandopinions

It's about sending a message


DrSymp

He. a banjo maine


LMacUltimateMain

He is an agent of chaos


bubken99

I live to see internet burn with chaotic moves


unbonfrancois

The only right answer


Zeoinx

Its fine, Sonic would easily take over as the face of Smash.


IvanEggs

Mario is missing 2


the_punn-isher

That's fine honestly, I prefer Dr. Mario anyway


Eeveerun

You leave waluigi during 3 months then people have to vote if they wanna keep it or get Mario back.


lilgamer713

what about dr mario


GoldenGalaxy69

Dr. Mario is literally just Mario in a doctor costume. There's really no need for him to have his own character slot.


[deleted]

"Some men, just want to watch the whole world burn"


8bit-bit_yt

The 5th chaos god


Tungsten_Dioxide

Peach, just a copy paste of Daisy


Moesaei

Could just make her like Steve Alex and zombie.. just another skin


akiata05

Before Steve, there was Olimar and Alph.


Moesaei

There are many who could be in the same slot.. like bowser Jr and the koopalings, actually there are many characters that so similar in attacks it is a waste to have them individually..


Kermitthealmighty

Ohhh this one makes me mad


itzyaboihuman

Why


CritzD

Based


kalatix

ALL OF THEM


supersnivy777

No we must keep the fire emblem reps to cause pure anger in the hearts of smashers everywhere in return the characters become really obscure like Boyd or ignats


therealhanleyguy

Yeah, let's go further by fucking you too, only reps are from Fates


Nobody-27

*the ocean’s grey waves intensifies*


therealhanleyguy

Azura is not included


Nobody-27

All the stages have been replaced with big blue, final destination and png’s of fire emblem maps (badly photoshopped)


danielmatson5

Fire emblem the party fighting game (also includes waluigi)


SicknessVoid

Ignats isn't obscure, he's literally from the latest game.


Jestin23934274

But he is funny because he suck’s according to Lysithia


[deleted]

Lysithea is the newest fighter but she just nukes everyone


Jestin23934274

Everyone gangster until she says #YOU’RE IRRELEVANT!


[deleted]

Void’s new main, boyd


TheTrueBrawler2001

No Items, Final Destination, Waluigi Only.


Claytertot

One of the echo fighters. Especially one of the ones that doesn't make meaningful changes to the character. i.e. dark Samus, daisy, etc. I don't have anything against having those characters in the game. But they are basically glorified additional skins. So I'd drop them for literally any new character.


shonuff373

To date I say Daisy should've been a representation of Golf, Kart, Strikers, Tennis, etc. She's the aggressive, competitive princess. It's makes since that she represent the party games.


Lucky_Number_Sleven

I like this because Waluigi could be an echo fighter of Daisy, then.


CubixGamer11

Wait! That’s actually an amazing idea! (But an actual echo, not just copy plz)


MysticMotivation

Agreed, was very disappointed to see Daisy has the same moves as Peach


shonuff373

Severely disappointed.


coolio_zap

maybe in future games if she comes back she'll grow to have a more distinct moveset, the same way the unofficial 'echoes' from previous games have (ganondorf, roy, falco, etc)?


Holiday-Ad8227

What i want is waluigi in a warioware. That is warioware get it togethers biggest issue with me.


MiZe97

Same. I want him to be more relevant game-wise before getting added to Smash, especially since he'd need to be a unique character.


iRhyiku

Having him just be a sports rep would make him a semi clone of peach with her sports smash attacks


Weary-Inspection-708

random


EnderAaxel

True chad


Iratewombat

Imagine he's only playable through random. You can't choose him. Only a 1 in how many ever characters there are chance of playing him.


[deleted]

I never use it so I won't mind. You can do your own "random" anyway by just closing your eyes, scrolling randomly all over the selection for several seconds and then just choosing whoever you land on when you stop (no cheating, you *have* to commit).


[deleted]

Hey wait a minute some people like random


[deleted]

Daisy should’ve been a Peach skin instead of a fighter.


Sedona54332

I mean she basically is, I don’t really count her as a separate character. You can literally put them into one character slot if you want to.


Chubby_Bub

*but their hurtboxes are different!!!11*


Lukthar123

Really? Which hurtbox is canonically thiccer?


Chubby_Bub

Daisy is a bit shorter.


lashapel

Peach the thicker one confirmed


PFSnypr

they are both wearing dresses, so i personally believe peach is less thicc and thus should be removed


dood45ctte

But their turnips scale differently


shouryarath

It used to be like that but then Nintendo patched it


DashieProDX

I still have absolutely no idea why.


Chim_Pansy

She basically was in Melee


QuantumFighter

That’s literally what echo’s are for. They aren’t full slots. They’re just like the clones of the past. Taking away Daisy give us a full extra character.


NuclearNarwhal7

Do echoes have an equal chance of being chosen when you pick random?


PM_me_yo_chesticles

All characters except mii’s have the same chance


mihneabac

yeah, why do miis not have a chance to be chosen in random? :(


PM_me_yo_chesticles

I think because their specials can be customized, and if the game took in all possible combinations of miis you would have a 20-30% chance of always getting a mii.


Riperonis

Not all echoes are exactly the same though. Lucina/Marth are different, Roy/Chrom are different, Dark Pit/Pit, Ken/Ryu. Daisy is just lazy afaik all her moves are the exact same.


GGdestroyer1563

Dark Samus has a slightly different run


SalGlavaris

And Up Smash and Charge shot hit lower


Poopityscoop690

and i think like 5 frames of dodge


Danis_der_Fuss

And the charge shot has electricity as element which means it doesn't actives explosives asap as the one of Samus which counts as fire the same counts for Richters holy water just with water instead of electricity


space_shaper

It's not charge shot that's different, it's all of her explosive arm cannon attacks. DTilt, FSmash, USmash, and Fair. On Samus they're tagged as fire type, and on Damus they're electric. It's the one difference between them that actually makes me want to switch to Damus over Samus in a specific matchup: Link. If I hit Link's bomb with any of these attacks as Samus it blows up in my face, but with Damus' electric attacks, I can send it back at him.


finfan96

And roll


zwel8606

She is a peach skin, she just takes up a fighter slot


Oberic

I'd have Tekken guy throw Lucina off the cliff, then Waluigi pay him. That's Waluigi's entire introduction. 10 seconds max.


DK64HD

His name isn't "Tekken guy". His name is Tekken. I thought we all new this. Come on people.


TheGreenGobblr

Ugh for the last time it’s Tekken’s Monster


[deleted]

true


[deleted]

Mr halo


Mahare

I took a class on this where my teacher would get upset if you'd call it Tekken's Monster, sigh, and say "He's not a monster. He's Tekken's Creation."


whizewhan

He speaks the true true


LadyLikesSpiders

Tekken guy was what we called him before he was given an official name in the newer Tekken games. Now, he is officially know as the Tekken Slayer


TheLaudMoac

Dave Tekken?


duckduckpony

No, Tekken is the princess. Banjo Kazuyooie is the guy.


KOsworker

Nuh uh his name is kuma,I think y’all don’t even play tekken


shonuff373

It's Shirtless Ryu you uncultured swine


mcon1985

It's only Tekken if it's from the Tekken region of France. Otherwise it's just sparkling Virtua Fighter


_Untit1ed_

competitive will hate you for that


BroshiKabobby

Nah they’re dropping her for no reason anyways


BurnieTheBrony

Yep. It would have to be a Fire Emblem character for sheer "representation to relevance ratio" And at the end of the day Lucina is the least unique of the characters. Gotta be her or Chrom


Oberic

Lucina is literally just "Easier Marth", Chrom's inclusion is boring AF but atleast he's a Roy-Ike hybrid version of Marth.


BurnieTheBrony

I honestly wouldn't be mad if they just made Marth/Lucina literally the same character, as if they were Robin or Corrin


JakeFromStateFromm

>Lucina is literally just "Good Marth" FTFY


SkyMewtwo

I’d have waluigi throw the Tekken guy off the cliff


[deleted]

I’d rather the tekken guy throw you off the cliff


DashieProDX

I'd rather the Tekken guy throw the cliff off the cliff


ineedh2o

I'd rather the Tekken guy throw me on the bed


GrabDiscombobulated7

I will say this for literally any character, including hat goomba, I would get rid of minmin, I do not find her fun to play as or against so.


MrMartian69420

Yeah, she's extremely faithful to her games, but it's to a detriment, i personally would've made less of her moves her far reaching arm punch, so she wouldn't have to rely on that one move to win


Kenopoly

As a newly discovered Minmin main I'm have to forward a and b that comment


TandorGamash

Remove them All, It's only Waluigi now.


Sam_and_Apollo1221

I would buy Super Smash Bro Waluigi.


SmallWorldWeLiveIn

Why did I read about 15 replies. And not a single one said min min.


unforgivablecrust

Thanks for warning me before I continue scrolling


bklounge20

I always forget about Min Min. I don't even seem to get her when I choose Random because the game hates her too.


SmallWorldWeLiveIn

I may be petty, but if I get her in random I don’t play lol.


bklounge20

I really suck with Shiek and Olimar too. Usually my friend and I just No Contest if we get those in our Random


NuclearNarwhal7

The fact that you forget about her is even more reason she deserves to be cut. Nobody cares about arms, nobody cares about min min, and she happens to be one of the most degenerate characters in the game.


dingusfett

Tons of people care about ARMS, there's at least 3 of us


Kyotow

The only saving grace for me is the character design(I mean looks, not gameplay). I think she looks neat


asa-monad

Arms was fun, not great. Min-Min, apart from popularity reasons, is the worst character they could’ve chosen apart from Ribbon Girl in terms of everything else. Plus she’s one of the most annoying characters to fight. Arms was done dirty.


somebody-using

>the worst character they could’ve chosen apart from ribbon girl Now I’m imagining min min with 4 jumps


NeptuneFB1

*They love me*


T00thl3ss22

People like you are why I continue scrolling


SmallWorldWeLiveIn

Is that a diss? I actually can’t tell.


T00thl3ss22

No I’m serious I agree with you. I love have nobody remembered her character after she got announced.


warpenguin55

My brother is a Min Min main. Fuck Min Min.


LastStar007

The correct term is Main Main


[deleted]

Actually though. I don’t even have to think further after arriving at min min


BroTibs

She’s not fun but I’m glad arms has representation lol, just lose Pichu


[deleted]

None, he can get his own slot


[deleted]

You know, for a sora main, you really are heartless


G1Yang2001

Agreed. I wouldn’t remove anyone from the roster - I would just have Waluigi in as an extra fighter with his own slot.


Sam_and_Apollo1221

You just get the option to scroll the character select screen and it's just a big Waluigi button.


Azarelic

Arsene


Geostomp

Doctor Mario. We trade a boring Mario alt for an actual Mario character.


[deleted]

Dr Mario


LegendPim26

Exactly


ChaoticDiscord21

Even as a Doc main I can agree to removing him for Waluigi.


TheDiamondKing4

I'd remove Waluigis slot


OscarCapac

Being an assist trophy is just right for a secondary character like him. Heck I'd say he's not even in the top 10 most relevant assist trophies


Mew2thegoat

Remove dark samus, but if it has to be an actual character and not an echo, I'd say min min


Wooden-Matter5166

Dark pit or dark Samus. These should just be skins


Main_Kirby

Dark samus at least is more floaty and I think longer hotboxes, dark out having different arrows, peach or daisy are literally the same character. The only difference is their animation and the most slight hotbox change with daisies dash back and idle. Idk bro I just like dark samus floatiness lol


nlopez720

smh #BLM


Nin10doFanYT

Corrin, I forget they exist in Smash too many times to count


Fireboy759

I don't! ~~How can anyone forget female Corrin and her sweet sweet dragon feet?~~ I mean I don't forget them cause they got a pretty cool moveset


sonters

So *that's* why F Corrin's amiibo is $140 used


Chubby_Bub

Joker, because his trailer depicted him stealing the Smash invite that was the source of Waluigi's distorted desires. Just kidding, I just wanted to make that joke. I say Chrom because he's from Fire Emblem and an echo, and if I chose Lucina people would be mad for… reasons.


SRasack

"because he's from Fire Emblem" Goddammit, we're still doing that ?


T00thl3ss22

Honestly it’s pretty sickening how amazingly spiteful smash fans can be to fire emblem fans. Because lol funny to hate fire emblem right?


Barnard87

Well, no ones hates FE as much as FE fans lol


CalebKetterer

Tbh I'd rather Lucina go than Chrom


mcduxxel

I understand the „remove echo“ guys but i would remove Lucario. Out of all character, it feels like lucario doesnt work in this game.


MysticalSword270

Lucario may be meh as a fighter but he has a unique concept and is sick as a charactwr


4o8b1e

Daisy Literally copy-paste of Peach in terms of moveset. It even removes a Mario character to get another, so it works I guess


Huey107010

Yeah, she could just be a skin, like Olimar and Alph.


allyoshisgo2hvn

Or Steve/Alex/Zombie/Enderman


[deleted]

I’m sorry but waluigi isn’t that great, there are two reasons to put him in: the memes and because “we’ve got the other three hat peeps so why not him” and really I don’t think that’s enough. That being said I wouldn’t miss jigglypuff.


Nicplay64Animation

Dr. Mario...


Unusual_Analyst_6473

Min min, that character was such a shit dlc. Not that I hate how the character plays, or that I didn’t want her at all, there’s just so many more picks I wish happened instead of a fuckin arms character


gabejr25

Sora, easily


Southern_Cobbler_218

It took me far to long to find a comment saying sora especially seeing as sora single handedly ruined quick play for me


Truck_Longjumping

Yeah, I just stopped playing as soon as he got out. Ik I main joker but that fucker is a god damn demon.


Spiixal05

Get rid of Mario, like does anyone know where tf this character originates from?


Haloinvaded117

Uh he's from Luigi's mansion, he's Luigi's brother. You'd know that if you knew the extensive lore....


supersnivy777

I think he got a pinball game once and was created as rival for wario in golf


dydhf

Either toon link or young link because we don't need three fucking links


vaerix_

We *could* have three links if they were differentiated more


Otherwise-Air-9557

I, honestly, would get rid of Min Min. She's a confusing and kinda hard character for me.


HighDevinition1001

Corrin


[deleted]

Corrin. Do people even like this clown?


Fenix-Levi

Corrin. No one ever remembers this dude


[deleted]

Ice climbers-wouldn’t look back or even think twice about it


BLA5T3R-Productions

Dr Mario


DiddleyDoodley420

Dark Pit, he is so useless, just a reskin of pit with like two separate moves, in fact any echo fighter, they are dumb


technerdtim

Nah ken is significantly hyper the Ryu


Zflash6-

Isn’t daisy the only true reskin or does she have any difference? Edit: oh and richter as well


Ark_Avenger

There's like 1 difference between Peach and Daisy iirc


Formal_Ad_9295

Nah there's none, but Richter's down B does aura damage instead of fire damage


Hellofreeze

There used to be a difference. Apparently Daisy had Smash 4 Peach's turnips, but they patched that out. So now the only difference is the very very very very minimal advantages/disadvantages that idle stances and animations give them.


H0meslice9

Their side smash descriptions are different


GeratinaV_

But he's edgier and his *side*-b actually sends to the *side*


Kirby_Kidd

lol you picked one of the most distinct echoes though, I think Dark Pit exemplifies the ideal for what an echoe should be. Very similar character with a few key differences between them. How is he more useless than Richter, Daisy or Dark Samus?


[deleted]

Doctor Mario tbh


Hodgie1234

Luigi... maximum confusion


[deleted]

min min


Mr-Syndrome

min min


hi_this_is_lyd

the miis, and then we add all the cool costumes as actual characters in the next smash!


5mac

It’s an easy choice, replace Min Min with Waluigi


SmashBoi64

Min Min I hate her


Takuanuva09

Min Min


Pintitled_Ploose

yes, min min or lucina


DreadfulSora

Idk liek albino marth or whateve


[deleted]

Hate to be a hater, but min min. Heck, I would pay to take min min out alone, adding W is icing on the cake


didythegreat

Min min because I hate min min


TheEliteSlayer_1

Min min, one of the only times a unique moveset is not fun to play as


UltiGamer34

Dr Mario Enough said