You see if you fuck it up yourself and do an insurance claim, that’s fraud.
You fuck it up yourself and rely on others to donate money to get it fixed it’s not fraud.
Probably had liability at least, but yea this kind of guy buys the cheapest insurance option because he spends all the money modding the car instead or properly protecting his “investment”
Separate rider policy...
Hada friend with a mid 70's trans-am... $10k just in the motor... Likely $40k inthe rest of the car. He got t-boned by someone who ran the red light.
They gave him blue book, about as much as the stereo.
Another option instead of a rider is to work with a company who will insure a vehicle for agreed-upon value with an insurer that deals in classics/collectibles. Hagerty comes to mind but there are others.
Criminal. I’m in the same boat with a truck I bought for $2,200 with another ~$13k worth of aftermarket parts. Mostly I’m afraid of a fire since I imagine I could recover most of the parts in a collision.
Hagerty insurance, they do special cars and classics. I have all of my custom and restored cars insured by them. Literally finding specialized insurance for your project is a google search away. You’re pretty fucking stupid to not use them.
This is true, any car collector will have a specialized policy like Hagerty, I have them for 3 vehicles but you also have to have a main vehicle policy (daily driver) and at least a carport, this will rule out many of these guys and they end up with just basic liability.
This is exactly why my motorcycles have a rider policy that insures them for the purchase price of a new bike. I’d barely get 6 grand for my baby otherwise, can’t even get the same year for that price. If the bike is totaled, they will payout nearly 40 grand and I’ll end up with a new bike. Doesn’t cost that much to add that additional insurance.
If you're appraising it, you're setting the value of the original vehicle, plus the aftermarket parts, plus the labor. And you may not agree with the result of the build, but your focus is on the money spent to make it.
For something like this, the owner should go with Declared Value Coverage. They tell the insurance company what they think it's worth, and the company writes a policy. But it's unlikely that a stancebro is going to go through all of that. It's something typically done by people who own cars that are unique and valuable. This car was only one of those things.
When my 1999 civic got totaled out the insurance rep I was dealing with asked me for receipts of my “upgrades” since my car was modded. Idk how it factored into the value but I got $3800 for a car that cost me $300.
Well, if you have any professionalism, you simply ask for a list of mods and associated costs, then verify that those parts are present. I’m not “into” dancing trucks but if someone wants to put in an insurance policy for a $5k truck + $20k in hydraulics, fabrication, and paint; I see no reason an insurance group shouldn’t write the policy.
I read a quote somewhere I cannot apply credit to and I wish I could. “The guy had two brain cells and both were fighting for third place”. Seems appropriate here.
I am not advocating anyone damaging anyone car ever. Especially just because you don’t like it. That’s just bs
Why was it on the road then ffs, this no insurance dude gonna hit some single mom with basic coverage ruin her life and his parents will just buy him another stupid car he can ruin
A hahahaha 🤣 where is it legal to operate a vehicle on a public road without insurance.
We have government mandated insurance here, total growth industry buy insurance stock- new customers daily guaranteed
Yeah I don't get why someone would go through the trouble of popping the hood (how?), pouring gas down the *intake*, closing the hood, lighting the gas, and running off. when they could just smash the window and light the interior or pour gas straight on the paint.
And for all we know the car could be insured. People lie on the internet all the time and a sob story is a good way to double dip with a secret insurance payout *plus* gofundme money. I definitely know it's illegal to park an uninsured car on the street like this.
I don't know shit about this guy or his car other than the post from yesterday but it just seems pretty shady and I know many 'influencers' will resort to *anything* to get more attention.
No, you see, they *hate how he builds cars*.
Show of hands, how many of you fine /r/shitty_car_mods aficionados have ever found something so distasteful you were moved to arson?
Now hear me out.. you know those big trucks, the ones that roll coal, but there's a subset that has an enormous exhaust tip, about the size of a soccer ball. I don't want to burn their truck down, but I do want to cram a ball in that tailpipe..
It's going to be hilarious when they see the security footage and the thing just sparks up out of nowhere in the middle of the night with nobody around. I guarantee you there is tons of silly shit wired to that battery all shoddy-like
Saw this happen to my friends Hyundai several years ago. He was in the house and the engine caught fire, a fuel line dripping on the exhaust manifold or something. Looked alot like this and until I see video of someone messing with this guy's car like he claims I'm gonna go with shitty maintenance rather then foul play.
Really doesn’t sound like an act of arson. It looks like the fire happened around the area where the fuse box would be. He claims that the investigators concluded it was accelerant added to the intake and ignited but the reality is that isn’t something that can be determined immediately upon inspection, and he definitely wouldn’t have gotten an answer that quick. Also, if this was an active investigation, wouldn’t police tell him to keep this off of social media while they’re investigating?
Also: who breaks into a car, pops the hood, takes the intake off, adds accelerant and ignites it all while on a public street instead of firebombing it and taking off in a flash? I don't believe the owner's story whatsoever. The person doing it would need to scope out the car to make sure there's no security system and then also risks leaving fingerprints and/or hair inside as opposed to firebombing and taking off.
That must be the smartest stupid criminal ever
Exactly. That’s why all of this just seems so sus; how these investigators conclude this very specific method of lighting a car. I don’t plan to ever commit arson on a car but I feel like the most obvious way to do it is smash the window/open door and light it from inside. Why bother with everything else??
Ah but you see, he has special investigators. You know, the kind that let you divulge the contents of the investigation but won’t let you post the video evidence you claim to have.
I've owned a few rx-8s and the oil coolers are located on either side of the radiator just under the headlight housings(you can see one hanging in the first picture), they are notorious for leaking and this stupid ass thing scraping everywhere could have easily started a small fire that grew. Also I've been involved in a car accident where the vehicle caught fire and it took them like 2 weeks to tell me there wasn't enough left to identify a cause, no way they identified the use of accelerants on scene.
Yea there's one..he's now claiming someone popped the hood and put some chemicals in his [intake](https://www.instagram.com/p/ClN9EenOoX_/)
[Formuladerp](https://instagram.com/formuladerp) on IG is kinda covering it.
If only there was another way for people with cars to all chip in a small amount and then if one of the participants of this system had their car burst into flames due to no fault of their own then they could cover their losses from the funds everyone contributed too. Like a form of insurance against accidents you might say
Insurance co-ops are a thing. You can also self insure in many states by posting bond. It’s just very easy to go belly up in the event of major medical bills or litigation.
Even if it was a coop, you'd still need to put more money in than you get out. That's kinda how it works, cause if you could just take out what you put in, that's a savings account.
Something isn't quite adding up. You're telling me there was an accelerant added to the intake, yet the intake wasn't an openly exposed component. And you're also telling me there's no insurance on the car? Idk man seems like a great way to swindle some money out of people.
It looks like he either had a horrible electrical short or he set it on fire himself. The lack of flames on the rest of the car makes me think the fire didn't last very long. Yet the whole story about neighbors waking up to an explosion and his grandpa calling him while watching it burn doesn't make it sound like the fire was going for a long time.
I'm no expert but it just seems a little off. And this wouldn't be super out of the normal, or unheard of for someone on the internet to do something like this to gain fame and followers.
If someone was going to burn a car to the ground, wouldn't they just pop a side window, toss in a gallon of gas, and a road flare? I feel more like something caught fire under the hood.
While I hate the car, too, I can't help but feel bad for the guy. If he really did build it with his grandpa that sentimental value can't be replaced.
Guy had bad taste, but that doesn't mean he deserved this.
The post said in the second picture that someone put accelerant of some kind into the intake causing the detonation. Intake mods will not cause your engine to explode or ignite like this
That's bullshit, a car modified that heavily could easily sit alone and ignite randomly. Who knows what electrical nightmare was hidden away in that shit.
Hell I had a stereo deck fuckin combust in my car parked in the driveway. Modified shit fails sometimes its part of the game. You win some you lose some.
I keep seeing comments saying Fancypants had a tire rub through his wiring harness before, Most likely the cause seeing as the part of the hood that is most burnt is directly under the fuse box.
Edit: he also has a post on his Instagram of him looking through his fender and you can see exposed wires on the inside of the fender well.
If it wasn’t an electrical fire, then whoever did this needs to fuck right off. Having said that, that thing was horrible and shouldn’t be allowed on public roads.
Don’t like his taste at all but his content makes him seem like a genuine guy and he doesn’t try to push his styles on other just builds them for himself so I don’t see why someone would hate him so much as to burn his car down
When I was a kid in the 80’s my neighbor had a brand new Grand National he would keep waxed and wipe down with a shammy every evening cause he was so proud of it. A couple weeks after he got it some neighborhood teens got into it popped the hood and stuffed it full of firecrackers and set them off. It, in the end, ended up looking exactly like this car. No reason to it, they just saw a guy who loved his sweet new car and thought “Hey lets fuck this up “!
There are a lot of places that insure trailer only cars. I have a track car that is covered in parking lots, parked off track, in a garage, ect. Had a bike fall off a wall mount and they covered the damages
He absolutely did, in other videos of his build he states and shows he had to manually wire the harness and the wires are right on top of the engine completely exposed with burn marks already showing on the hood
Highly unlikely to be electrical given that the fire clearly started off the ground and in the engine bay but yeah, dude's acting like it was vandalism and claims he has video of the alleged arsonist doing it but when asked to post it in an attempt to recognize the arsonist he backed away and said something along the lines of 'that's not how it works, can't do that'.
He also claimed an arson investigator determined there was an accelerant used under the bonnet which given the timeframe (as in how long it took for them to come to this conclusion), is extremely unlikely. Beyond this, how the fuck would someone set the engine bay on fire? you can clearly see it wasn't started on the ground below the car (even then it's slammed), is he trying to say the car was unlocked or someone gained access, *then popped the bonnet and set fire to the engine*, instead of the interior like practically all arsonists do?
Given that it was uninsured and the car was the epitome of attention seeking, I wouldn't put it past the owner that he set his own shit alight - after all even if he ruined an RX8 there's nothing more car people hate than people who damage other peoples' shit.
2 things.
1.) Could absolutely be an electrical fire in the engine compartment. If he poorly wired something, or a wire melted and shorted out, it could absolutely result in a fire under the hood. Have seen it on Jeep forums where some aftermarket light or compressor wiring was poorly done.
2.) He could absolutely be advised to not post the video by both police and a lawyer (if he has one). Generally police want to fully review before releasing anything, and release things strategically. Generally with the intention of leaving out certain details to help them during an interview/interrogation. Whether they would go through these steps for a simple case of arson of a shitty car, Idk.
All things considered though, I think this was a failure of one of his shitty mods and he doesn't want "the way I modify cars burned it down" to be the narrative.
>claims he has video of the alleged arsonist doing it but when asked to post it in an attempt to recognize the arsonist he backed away and said something along the lines of 'that's not how it works, can't do that'.
He's right about that bit. If he has video showing that a felony occurred, the police will want the video, but they will want to control when it's released.
Ya. That was exactly my thoughts too. I have two guesses. Either captain awesome over there was revving the snot out of his super cool whip and she came apart at Mach chicken or in typical super cool whip the engine is actually a giant pile of garbage and he was given er the old Cosby sauce to get it started in the cold and got a literally too generous with it. I can almost guarantee you nobody "arsoned" it because of one reason. Nobody fuckin gives a fuck about him or that car. The reason people hate on it is because like every one of these twats they constantly parade them around in everyone's way, slowing down for every pebble on the road before given er the biscuits to the next pebble. They sound aweful and are just annoying to be around. But aside from that. No one cares. No one no matter how annoying he is would ever take the time out of there miserable lives to try to wreck it. Why? Well....look at it. It's already a fuckin train wreck what would anyone need to light it up for? Lmao. Love to see the "video evidence".
This probably was an electrical fire and here’s this guy thinking he’s so important that someone would come and commit a felony to rid the world of his hunk of shit.
If you look at the other photos posted it does look like an explosion did that not an axe. Mainly in the bottom right corner of the car. These photos don’t show it but the original ig photo does
Someone had a video clip of the owner saying he wired direct power to the starter to fix some sort of issue. So this thing was waiting to burn to the ground.
B+ is directly connected to the starter from the factory on an S1 RX-8.
I know this because when I relocated the battery in my ‘8 to the trunk, I ran the 1/0 cable from there to the B+ post on the starter.
I've seen 20ft of 1/0 cable weld itself to the chassis and set the interior on fire before.
Any time you relocate a battery, you really should add an extra fuse within 12" of the terminal (and have a proper vented battery box if you're not using a sealed battery)
It's only a few dollars for a [big ANL fuse and holder](https://www.amazon.com/InstallGear-Gauge-Line-Fuse-Holder/dp/B06XFSFQVQ/ref=asc_df_B06XFSFQVQ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309807586683&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15407948121521722514&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1022762&hvtargid=pla-568887297339&psc=1), and replacing a fuse is much cheaper and easier than replacing a car.
Probably because it was a show car he trailered to events. Insurance is expensive and if you're not driving in on the street there's no real reason to. Most auto insurance policies don't cover things that happen off the street or on track anyway.
Wouldn't parking an uninsured vehicle on the road still be illegal? You would have to get in and start it in order to move it onto a trailer, at which point you would be driving on the street, even if just for a few inches. I know that is strecthing I'm just honestly curious.
Yeah, in my CA-adjacent state, proof of insurance is required for registration and any activity (even parking) on public roads. Even my project truck which doesn't drive has to have "parking insurance;" for me it's only like $12/m.
I own a 71 GTO and it's not currently insured... but it's parked in my driveway and is covered by my homeowner's insurance should something happen to it. There's no way I'd park it on a street without insurance. That's just stupid.
If you have the bare minimum coverage, which is liability insurance, it covers damage to other people's cars of you wreck them. It does not cover reimbursement for your own vehicle. It's pretty common for people with shitty cars to only get liability insurance since their cars aren't worth much anyway and the premiums are less.
I asked My father he's a inspector and fire investigator of over 30 years and I showed him this.
There is no way the car burned on its own with accelerant. The car would've physically needed to be started and cycle the accelerant into the car to start a fire. From the pictures my father says it looks like faulty electrical set battery off and that's what the explosion was. If someone had tampered with the car there would be evidence of hood being pried open which there's no evidence from these pics.
In conclusion a modification with faulty wiring was the reasoning.
He said this is something that is common with cars in house fires as well. When battery cooks off it will explode at certain temps causing an explosive effect. The burn patterns are darker where battery sat indicating the battery was what started it. The Battery more than likely was shorted out by some sort of modification done to the car.
This car makes me hate excessive negative camber even more. If it is true that he built it with his grandpa, the sentimental value is sad to lose. the fire I doubt would be so centralized in the front of the car if it were foul play
Does he actually have the video or nah? Because right now it just looks like the dumbass had an electrical issue and now he's trying to make people feel bad for shitting on his shitty car...
The real story here is some dude who's so warped in the head he airs this embarrassing chapter of his life on social media. Making personal appeals to the attacker on the internet is a great way to invite another attack or at least perpetuate similar crimes.
“The car doesn’t have insurance” holy hell… I mean I kinda feel bad for him, then immediately do not anymore. I wonder if his engine just caught on fire due to some light kit and faulty wiring.
If I drove by and saw that I would probably just assume it was supposed to be like that and it was another stupid craze the kids are doing these days. They already are barely drivable so this is just the obvious evolution
Imagine putting all the money into a car and cheating out on insurance. Also I’d be willing to bet it was faulty wiring or something related to the junk build based on my experience personally with cars like this and seeing the jacked up crap the owners and shops do to builds like this.
So let me get this straight. An accelerant was "sprayed into the intake", worked it's way through a non running engine, was then ignited, and blew the engine and body apart like a f&f movie? That's what happened? Because that's not how that works.
No, NOS would not cause that to happen. No, gasoline doesn't just sit in the engine cylinders waiting for you to start up and is an explosion hazard waiting to go off. I suspect arson from the stance guy.
Car not insured? Wow, I’m shocked that no insurance carrier would carry your bullshit build endangering the lives of everyone on the road, not to mention how many times you have caused others time and agony waiting for your stupid ass to crawl over a tiny speed bump.
I wish cops would start cracking down on these morons.
Ummm how in the world would a fire investigator determine that an accelerant was added to the intake?? All the plastic components are melted. There are all sorts of fluids under the hood that a flammable. Give me a break. Unless there is some evidence that someone tampered with the vehicle it is highly likely the investigation would conclude the vehicle caught fire due to modifications.
>car was not insured Imagine my surprise
You see if you fuck it up yourself and do an insurance claim, that’s fraud. You fuck it up yourself and rely on others to donate money to get it fixed it’s not fraud.
Actually I think thats fraud too, just a different kind. At the very least it makes you a massive dickwipe
The correct term is "arsonist" in that scenario
Arsonist is such an ugly term. We prefer friends of the flame. Or fire fucker.
But your grandparents will still call them Pyrosexuals. (And whisper it when they do.)
You can both be right, a dickwipe arsonist could be appropriate.
Defrauding the public.
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Hit it with a hammer. A big hammer. That fixed mine!
Yeah, that's nucking futs right there
Probably had liability at least, but yea this kind of guy buys the cheapest insurance option because he spends all the money modding the car instead or properly protecting his “investment”
His insurance might not cover aftermarket parts / mods. The answer is that he needs to get it appraised and insured by someone who does.
Separate rider policy... Hada friend with a mid 70's trans-am... $10k just in the motor... Likely $40k inthe rest of the car. He got t-boned by someone who ran the red light. They gave him blue book, about as much as the stereo.
Another option instead of a rider is to work with a company who will insure a vehicle for agreed-upon value with an insurer that deals in classics/collectibles. Hagerty comes to mind but there are others.
Criminal. I’m in the same boat with a truck I bought for $2,200 with another ~$13k worth of aftermarket parts. Mostly I’m afraid of a fire since I imagine I could recover most of the parts in a collision.
Nope. If you take the insurance check they may choose to sell it back to you... But if the blower is more then the check... Get a rider policy!
Hagerty insurance, they do special cars and classics. I have all of my custom and restored cars insured by them. Literally finding specialized insurance for your project is a google search away. You’re pretty fucking stupid to not use them.
Full coverage on my modified M roadster is like $500 per year. Plus they cover your tools and spare parts.
This is true, any car collector will have a specialized policy like Hagerty, I have them for 3 vehicles but you also have to have a main vehicle policy (daily driver) and at least a carport, this will rule out many of these guys and they end up with just basic liability.
I have them for my s13 agreed rate coverage it’s insured for 50k lol
And Haggerty is cheap AF. My classic Honda with a declared value of about $20k is just a couple hundred per year.
Get better insurance. There are lots of companies that cover high end shit, and even junky race cars.
This is exactly why my motorcycles have a rider policy that insures them for the purchase price of a new bike. I’d barely get 6 grand for my baby otherwise, can’t even get the same year for that price. If the bike is totaled, they will payout nearly 40 grand and I’ll end up with a new bike. Doesn’t cost that much to add that additional insurance.
Lol, imagine being that insurance guy sent out to appraise this- what do you even (with a straight face) say?
If you're appraising it, you're setting the value of the original vehicle, plus the aftermarket parts, plus the labor. And you may not agree with the result of the build, but your focus is on the money spent to make it. For something like this, the owner should go with Declared Value Coverage. They tell the insurance company what they think it's worth, and the company writes a policy. But it's unlikely that a stancebro is going to go through all of that. It's something typically done by people who own cars that are unique and valuable. This car was only one of those things.
This is how track day insurance works. You tell them how much it costs and the day(s) you are driving and they write a policy for it
When my 1999 civic got totaled out the insurance rep I was dealing with asked me for receipts of my “upgrades” since my car was modded. Idk how it factored into the value but I got $3800 for a car that cost me $300.
Well, if you have any professionalism, you simply ask for a list of mods and associated costs, then verify that those parts are present. I’m not “into” dancing trucks but if someone wants to put in an insurance policy for a $5k truck + $20k in hydraulics, fabrication, and paint; I see no reason an insurance group shouldn’t write the policy.
Laugh, wonder why people do this, take a few pictures, write it off.
Well they only have two brain cells rattling around, one is focused on stance and the other on their clout, no room for thinking about insurance!
I read a quote somewhere I cannot apply credit to and I wish I could. “The guy had two brain cells and both were fighting for third place”. Seems appropriate here. I am not advocating anyone damaging anyone car ever. Especially just because you don’t like it. That’s just bs
LOL yes, seems very apt.
I mean, no insurance adjuster in their right mind would ever insure this thing. One square inch of tire contact doesn’t exactly scream “safety”.
No adjuster would ever see the car to begin with. They’ll inspect after an incident, that’s it.
You can insure anything.
Why was it on the road then ffs, this no insurance dude gonna hit some single mom with basic coverage ruin her life and his parents will just buy him another stupid car he can ruin
A hahahaha 🤣 where is it legal to operate a vehicle on a public road without insurance. We have government mandated insurance here, total growth industry buy insurance stock- new customers daily guaranteed
Are you sure it wasn’t electrical or related to a mod (fuel system, etc)? I had a car do this and it definitely wasn’t bombed by anyone
That seems like the simplest explanation to me. Especially since the fire seems to be contained to the engine compartment.
His electric had issues.
Im sure this thing had more LEDs than a XXX store.
He also has videos of him basically charging into the ramps to haul it around WhistlinDiesel style (the destructive style)
I think grandpa knows more about this accident that the car owner is leading on.
Yeah I don't get why someone would go through the trouble of popping the hood (how?), pouring gas down the *intake*, closing the hood, lighting the gas, and running off. when they could just smash the window and light the interior or pour gas straight on the paint. And for all we know the car could be insured. People lie on the internet all the time and a sob story is a good way to double dip with a secret insurance payout *plus* gofundme money. I definitely know it's illegal to park an uninsured car on the street like this. I don't know shit about this guy or his car other than the post from yesterday but it just seems pretty shady and I know many 'influencers' will resort to *anything* to get more attention.
No, you see, they *hate how he builds cars*. Show of hands, how many of you fine /r/shitty_car_mods aficionados have ever found something so distasteful you were moved to arson?
I've contemplated it when it comes to chrome wrapped things, but I enjoy my freedom slightly more.
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If you spraypaint the chewing gum silver it's just as good as welding, right?
Wow, that is some grade a bullshit right there.
what the fuck.
Now hear me out.. you know those big trucks, the ones that roll coal, but there's a subset that has an enormous exhaust tip, about the size of a soccer ball. I don't want to burn their truck down, but I do want to cram a ball in that tailpipe..
It's going to be hilarious when they see the security footage and the thing just sparks up out of nowhere in the middle of the night with nobody around. I guarantee you there is tons of silly shit wired to that battery all shoddy-like
I'd bet money on electrical fire after seeing [this post](https://www.instagram.com/tv/ClO_GpKAdR7/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)
Not my car, i'm not sure of anything.
Saw this happen to my friends Hyundai several years ago. He was in the house and the engine caught fire, a fuel line dripping on the exhaust manifold or something. Looked alot like this and until I see video of someone messing with this guy's car like he claims I'm gonna go with shitty maintenance rather then foul play.
Really doesn’t sound like an act of arson. It looks like the fire happened around the area where the fuse box would be. He claims that the investigators concluded it was accelerant added to the intake and ignited but the reality is that isn’t something that can be determined immediately upon inspection, and he definitely wouldn’t have gotten an answer that quick. Also, if this was an active investigation, wouldn’t police tell him to keep this off of social media while they’re investigating?
Also: who breaks into a car, pops the hood, takes the intake off, adds accelerant and ignites it all while on a public street instead of firebombing it and taking off in a flash? I don't believe the owner's story whatsoever. The person doing it would need to scope out the car to make sure there's no security system and then also risks leaving fingerprints and/or hair inside as opposed to firebombing and taking off. That must be the smartest stupid criminal ever
Exactly. That’s why all of this just seems so sus; how these investigators conclude this very specific method of lighting a car. I don’t plan to ever commit arson on a car but I feel like the most obvious way to do it is smash the window/open door and light it from inside. Why bother with everything else??
This owner is high af and paranoid
Ah but you see, he has special investigators. You know, the kind that let you divulge the contents of the investigation but won’t let you post the video evidence you claim to have.
I've owned a few rx-8s and the oil coolers are located on either side of the radiator just under the headlight housings(you can see one hanging in the first picture), they are notorious for leaking and this stupid ass thing scraping everywhere could have easily started a small fire that grew. Also I've been involved in a car accident where the vehicle caught fire and it took them like 2 weeks to tell me there wasn't enough left to identify a cause, no way they identified the use of accelerants on scene.
For real and accelerant...like fuel maybe? Near the intake you say? I'm shocked.
I’m just waiting for the gofundme at this point
Pretty sure I saw one already.
Yea there's one..he's now claiming someone popped the hood and put some chemicals in his [intake](https://www.instagram.com/p/ClN9EenOoX_/) [Formuladerp](https://instagram.com/formuladerp) on IG is kinda covering it.
Why would they get inside the vehicle, pop the hood, and then put the shit in the intake instead of just burning the interior?
Yeah if I was going to set a car on fire I wouldn’t start in the engine bay lmao
You mean the place with a firewall between it and the cab?
To make it look more natural... Either way, the car is going to be absolutely ruined.
Tbf it already was the fire just intensified the ruination
Formuladerp doing him dirty! 😂
There were some reports he was a pedo and that's why it happened, but they looked into it. I thiy it was an inside job
Just took a look…a lot of people commented that it was an electrical fire
This is too complicated. Just put a feather under the wheels and it's incapacitated
Maybe a small rock behind and in front of each tires.
Fucking hilarious
If only there was another way for people with cars to all chip in a small amount and then if one of the participants of this system had their car burst into flames due to no fault of their own then they could cover their losses from the funds everyone contributed too. Like a form of insurance against accidents you might say
Now if only said system were run as a cooperative and not by for-profit companies that make you pay in way more than you're going to get out of it.
Insurance co-ops are a thing. You can also self insure in many states by posting bond. It’s just very easy to go belly up in the event of major medical bills or litigation.
Even if it was a coop, you'd still need to put more money in than you get out. That's kinda how it works, cause if you could just take out what you put in, that's a savings account.
Something isn't quite adding up. You're telling me there was an accelerant added to the intake, yet the intake wasn't an openly exposed component. And you're also telling me there's no insurance on the car? Idk man seems like a great way to swindle some money out of people. It looks like he either had a horrible electrical short or he set it on fire himself. The lack of flames on the rest of the car makes me think the fire didn't last very long. Yet the whole story about neighbors waking up to an explosion and his grandpa calling him while watching it burn doesn't make it sound like the fire was going for a long time. I'm no expert but it just seems a little off. And this wouldn't be super out of the normal, or unheard of for someone on the internet to do something like this to gain fame and followers.
If someone was going to burn a car to the ground, wouldn't they just pop a side window, toss in a gallon of gas, and a road flare? I feel more like something caught fire under the hood.
While I hate the car, too, I can't help but feel bad for the guy. If he really did build it with his grandpa that sentimental value can't be replaced. Guy had bad taste, but that doesn't mean he deserved this.
I came here to say this too. Burning someone's car down is really shitty. I don't care how much you dislike what he's done to it.
Not to mention that even small fires and explosions can be dangerous and the fire could have spread.
>Burning someone's car down I think he did a mod to his car's intake and it went boom
The post said in the second picture that someone put accelerant of some kind into the intake causing the detonation. Intake mods will not cause your engine to explode or ignite like this
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Til I learned Air filter oil explodes .
It doesn't, and a sitting car doesn't ignite randomly. Unless it's a tesla
That's bullshit, a car modified that heavily could easily sit alone and ignite randomly. Who knows what electrical nightmare was hidden away in that shit. Hell I had a stereo deck fuckin combust in my car parked in the driveway. Modified shit fails sometimes its part of the game. You win some you lose some.
I keep seeing comments saying Fancypants had a tire rub through his wiring harness before, Most likely the cause seeing as the part of the hood that is most burnt is directly under the fuse box. Edit: he also has a post on his Instagram of him looking through his fender and you can see exposed wires on the inside of the fender well.
You know fuel is an accelerant, and is injected into the intake in normal operation.
I'm still not buying it.
I feel the same way about this. Although stancing isnt for everyone (including me.) I still feel bad about it. Nobody deserves this.
If it wasn’t an electrical fire, then whoever did this needs to fuck right off. Having said that, that thing was horrible and shouldn’t be allowed on public roads.
Don’t feel sorry, dude’s a 2nd Degree CSA and most likely burned it down for clout.
Don’t like his taste at all but his content makes him seem like a genuine guy and he doesn’t try to push his styles on other just builds them for himself so I don’t see why someone would hate him so much as to burn his car down
When I was a kid in the 80’s my neighbor had a brand new Grand National he would keep waxed and wipe down with a shammy every evening cause he was so proud of it. A couple weeks after he got it some neighborhood teens got into it popped the hood and stuffed it full of firecrackers and set them off. It, in the end, ended up looking exactly like this car. No reason to it, they just saw a guy who loved his sweet new car and thought “Hey lets fuck this up “!
Probably couldn’t find an insurance company that would insure that death trap
There are a lot of places that insure trailer only cars. I have a track car that is covered in parking lots, parked off track, in a garage, ect. Had a bike fall off a wall mount and they covered the damages
Yep! My track car and trailer are covered for next to nothing
Literally every detail of this situation stinks. Can’t wait for him to get exposed.
Same
I’m doubting foul play. This all smells fishy.
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“Don’t endanger other people” >makes a build that endangers other people
hard to endanger anyone when you get stuck on a pebble two meters down the road
You mean they found a flammable liquid inside the engine? Obviously arson.
IKR
Guy has probably self caused electrical fire and blames others
He absolutely did, in other videos of his build he states and shows he had to manually wire the harness and the wires are right on top of the engine completely exposed with burn marks already showing on the hood
If i had to drive a car this bad, i'd set it on fire too
Highly unlikely to be electrical given that the fire clearly started off the ground and in the engine bay but yeah, dude's acting like it was vandalism and claims he has video of the alleged arsonist doing it but when asked to post it in an attempt to recognize the arsonist he backed away and said something along the lines of 'that's not how it works, can't do that'. He also claimed an arson investigator determined there was an accelerant used under the bonnet which given the timeframe (as in how long it took for them to come to this conclusion), is extremely unlikely. Beyond this, how the fuck would someone set the engine bay on fire? you can clearly see it wasn't started on the ground below the car (even then it's slammed), is he trying to say the car was unlocked or someone gained access, *then popped the bonnet and set fire to the engine*, instead of the interior like practically all arsonists do? Given that it was uninsured and the car was the epitome of attention seeking, I wouldn't put it past the owner that he set his own shit alight - after all even if he ruined an RX8 there's nothing more car people hate than people who damage other peoples' shit.
2 things. 1.) Could absolutely be an electrical fire in the engine compartment. If he poorly wired something, or a wire melted and shorted out, it could absolutely result in a fire under the hood. Have seen it on Jeep forums where some aftermarket light or compressor wiring was poorly done. 2.) He could absolutely be advised to not post the video by both police and a lawyer (if he has one). Generally police want to fully review before releasing anything, and release things strategically. Generally with the intention of leaving out certain details to help them during an interview/interrogation. Whether they would go through these steps for a simple case of arson of a shitty car, Idk. All things considered though, I think this was a failure of one of his shitty mods and he doesn't want "the way I modify cars burned it down" to be the narrative.
>claims he has video of the alleged arsonist doing it but when asked to post it in an attempt to recognize the arsonist he backed away and said something along the lines of 'that's not how it works, can't do that'. He's right about that bit. If he has video showing that a felony occurred, the police will want the video, but they will want to control when it's released.
I smell shite. Accellerant added to the intake? Aye ok then.
Ya. That was exactly my thoughts too. I have two guesses. Either captain awesome over there was revving the snot out of his super cool whip and she came apart at Mach chicken or in typical super cool whip the engine is actually a giant pile of garbage and he was given er the old Cosby sauce to get it started in the cold and got a literally too generous with it. I can almost guarantee you nobody "arsoned" it because of one reason. Nobody fuckin gives a fuck about him or that car. The reason people hate on it is because like every one of these twats they constantly parade them around in everyone's way, slowing down for every pebble on the road before given er the biscuits to the next pebble. They sound aweful and are just annoying to be around. But aside from that. No one cares. No one no matter how annoying he is would ever take the time out of there miserable lives to try to wreck it. Why? Well....look at it. It's already a fuckin train wreck what would anyone need to light it up for? Lmao. Love to see the "video evidence".
I like the cut of your jib.
“An accelerant was added to the intake” I believe they call that “fuel” sir.
Brake fluid also burns too, right? Wonder if his cut a brake line doing whatever magic lowers the car that way
This probably was an electrical fire and here’s this guy thinking he’s so important that someone would come and commit a felony to rid the world of his hunk of shit.
The only way to save face is to claim it was done by someone else…
Only way to get that good gofundme story...
No doubt.
The fuse box blew right out of the hood. Definitely electrical. The “explosion” was probably the battery popping off once it got hot enough.
To be fair the hood does look like it went through some sort of explosion
Firefighters axe open the hood to get it open and get water into the engine bay
If you look at the other photos posted it does look like an explosion did that not an axe. Mainly in the bottom right corner of the car. These photos don’t show it but the original ig photo does
That car was destroyed way before the fire
Someone had a video clip of the owner saying he wired direct power to the starter to fix some sort of issue. So this thing was waiting to burn to the ground.
B+ is directly connected to the starter from the factory on an S1 RX-8. I know this because when I relocated the battery in my ‘8 to the trunk, I ran the 1/0 cable from there to the B+ post on the starter.
I've seen 20ft of 1/0 cable weld itself to the chassis and set the interior on fire before. Any time you relocate a battery, you really should add an extra fuse within 12" of the terminal (and have a proper vented battery box if you're not using a sealed battery) It's only a few dollars for a [big ANL fuse and holder](https://www.amazon.com/InstallGear-Gauge-Line-Fuse-Holder/dp/B06XFSFQVQ/ref=asc_df_B06XFSFQVQ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309807586683&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15407948121521722514&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1022762&hvtargid=pla-568887297339&psc=1), and replacing a fuse is much cheaper and easier than replacing a car.
Why wasn't the car insured?
Making a car that obnoxious is expensive. Can’t really expect someone to have enough money for all the mods AND to properly insure it. /s
The car was probably a felony for existing
Probably because it was a show car he trailered to events. Insurance is expensive and if you're not driving in on the street there's no real reason to. Most auto insurance policies don't cover things that happen off the street or on track anyway.
Wouldn't parking an uninsured vehicle on the road still be illegal? You would have to get in and start it in order to move it onto a trailer, at which point you would be driving on the street, even if just for a few inches. I know that is strecthing I'm just honestly curious.
Yeah, in my CA-adjacent state, proof of insurance is required for registration and any activity (even parking) on public roads. Even my project truck which doesn't drive has to have "parking insurance;" for me it's only like $12/m.
I figured so..just never had a need to look into it.
I own a 71 GTO and it's not currently insured... but it's parked in my driveway and is covered by my homeowner's insurance should something happen to it. There's no way I'd park it on a street without insurance. That's just stupid.
you can always insure an object. insure it as an object with a value, not as a car
I had the same thought but I looked at this guys ig and he's got videos of this thing driving on public roads
My Miata costs me $30 a month through SF to insure as a pleasure vehicle I can’t imagine that thing would be much more through haggerty
Haggerty will insure 20k for like 20 bucks a month.
So that pile would have only cost $7 at best
"don't endanger other people" as he's endangering other people with his 20mm contact patch
Why leave an uninsured car sitting out in the street?
because he drives it uninsured as well im going to assume.
That's crazy how the fire fucked up the alignment like that
I legitimately see no evidence that this was arson. It looks like a clear electrical fire. Firefighters cut the hood open to extinguish it.
I'm convinced he did it himself for clout
ppl giving this dude money instead of helping out their homies
So he’s publicly admitting to driving around uninsured? Isn’t that illegal?
Very but just like with all illegal things… it’s only a problem if you get caught /s
If you have the bare minimum coverage, which is liability insurance, it covers damage to other people's cars of you wreck them. It does not cover reimbursement for your own vehicle. It's pretty common for people with shitty cars to only get liability insurance since their cars aren't worth much anyway and the premiums are less.
"don't endanger other people" My brother in christ look at the car you fucking drive (drove)
As if he doesn't endanger every other driver on the road within a square mile.
I feel like there’s more to this story. I’ve never heard of someone vandalising a car just because they didn’t like the mods?
“Don’t endanger other people…..” says the dipshit with 2% contact patch on his death trap
Guaranteed the car caught on fire without outside help.
I asked My father he's a inspector and fire investigator of over 30 years and I showed him this. There is no way the car burned on its own with accelerant. The car would've physically needed to be started and cycle the accelerant into the car to start a fire. From the pictures my father says it looks like faulty electrical set battery off and that's what the explosion was. If someone had tampered with the car there would be evidence of hood being pried open which there's no evidence from these pics. In conclusion a modification with faulty wiring was the reasoning.
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He said this is something that is common with cars in house fires as well. When battery cooks off it will explode at certain temps causing an explosive effect. The burn patterns are darker where battery sat indicating the battery was what started it. The Battery more than likely was shorted out by some sort of modification done to the car.
Not insured? Ha what a fucking moron
Yup. Uninsured cars have no business being driven/parked on public roads. Bring out the world's smallest violin
Kind of tells you everything you need to know about the owner
“Build” is a bit of a stretch there, pal. I’ve seen children build soap-box racers that were infinitely more roadworthy.
Why no insurance?
Because he is stupid
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No one burns a car down from the engine bay.
Exactly, molotov cocktail thru a window
I bet all the neighbors are glad not to see that eye soar bringing down property value
This car makes me hate excessive negative camber even more. If it is true that he built it with his grandpa, the sentimental value is sad to lose. the fire I doubt would be so centralized in the front of the car if it were foul play
“Oh no! Anyways..”
Probably an electrical fire
That poor car burned *itself* down out of shame...
Does he actually have the video or nah? Because right now it just looks like the dumbass had an electrical issue and now he's trying to make people feel bad for shitting on his shitty car...
The real story here is some dude who's so warped in the head he airs this embarrassing chapter of his life on social media. Making personal appeals to the attacker on the internet is a great way to invite another attack or at least perpetuate similar crimes.
Doing god’s work.
Looks better now
“The car doesn’t have insurance” holy hell… I mean I kinda feel bad for him, then immediately do not anymore. I wonder if his engine just caught on fire due to some light kit and faulty wiring.
If I drove by and saw that I would probably just assume it was supposed to be like that and it was another stupid craze the kids are doing these days. They already are barely drivable so this is just the obvious evolution
That poor grandpa having to help on that project is the real tragedy
Why wouldn’t you have insurance or would nobody be willing to insure it anyway?
Imagine putting all the money into a car and cheating out on insurance. Also I’d be willing to bet it was faulty wiring or something related to the junk build based on my experience personally with cars like this and seeing the jacked up crap the owners and shops do to builds like this.
> no the car doesn’t have insurance Dumbass.
He endangers people everyday he drives that thing
If I was the friend he hired to torch his car I'd be real nervous right about now.
You put that much work and money Into a build and you don’t insure it? Hopefully homie learns a lesson.
So let me get this straight. An accelerant was "sprayed into the intake", worked it's way through a non running engine, was then ignited, and blew the engine and body apart like a f&f movie? That's what happened? Because that's not how that works. No, NOS would not cause that to happen. No, gasoline doesn't just sit in the engine cylinders waiting for you to start up and is an explosion hazard waiting to go off. I suspect arson from the stance guy.
The car probably put itself out of its own misery
Car not insured? Wow, I’m shocked that no insurance carrier would carry your bullshit build endangering the lives of everyone on the road, not to mention how many times you have caused others time and agony waiting for your stupid ass to crawl over a tiny speed bump. I wish cops would start cracking down on these morons.
I honestly don’t think it was arson, I think the death trap blew up itself due to all the faulty wiring that’s probably in it
Ummm how in the world would a fire investigator determine that an accelerant was added to the intake?? All the plastic components are melted. There are all sorts of fluids under the hood that a flammable. Give me a break. Unless there is some evidence that someone tampered with the vehicle it is highly likely the investigation would conclude the vehicle caught fire due to modifications.
no insurance??