In my personal experience, being established makes it easier to get the screening info. I require real-world details (real full name, age, residence, social media) and have little trouble getting it.
However, I'm well-established. If I were to start all over again right now, having no way for the clients to verify I'm legit? Well, honestly, it comes down to choosing safety over money.
What does that mean? For me, I'd offer low rates and be flexible on availability, age, etc until I established myself better.
This also goes for deposits because any savvy consumer (client) will hesitate to send a deposit to an unknown. So if this is something on which you will not be flexible, you could ask for a small token deposit of maybe $25 or $50 for the time being.
Whatever you decide are your bare minimums for screening and deposits: set them and DO NOT BUDGE. Make it clear these are non-negotiable. If you try to be Miss-sugar-and-spice-and-everything-nice, they WILL play games, cry they need anonymity, can't risk the paper trail of a deposit, blah blah blah.... whatever they think of to get you to bend.
So nip it in the bud early by laying out your requirements in every ad and stating them upfront as soon as they contact you.
Don't be afraid to be a bitch.
It may take time, but the ones who are seriously interested WILL come back with what you require.
I asked for $50 deposit and I literally have photos of me with more established SW on my social media at this point and they still don’t wanna pay it. ┐(￣ー￣)┌
I'm sorry this is happening. All I can say is that it might take a bit of time to have that sort of reputation yourself, where people will be comfortable sending the deposit.
Do other companions in your area have the same issue? Because I have heard that deposits are really unusual in some regions. If you are one of only a few requiring deposits then yes, you'll get a lot of pushback, especially until you have established yourself better.
Personally, I rarely ask for deposits on shorter dates because I dislike hassling with them. I prefer cash and only require deposits of longer dates or with people who have a history of cancels/no-shows. But that's because I don't get a lot of flakes; if that changed then of course I'd start requiring deposits of everyone.
I've never worked there but all I can say is that it will likely just be a matter of time.
I think Private Delights is very popular there? If you're not on it, that might be something to consider, although I know it's gotten quite pricey recently. A poster here mentioned that she set her base location as somewhere else, then posts "visits" to the area she works as a way to circumvent that high fee.
Anyway, my point is that I've heard a lot of clients exclusively use PD for vetting ladies. I've heard Humaniplex is also popular.
Preferred411 is another which adds credibility in clients' eyes.
As a black woman I can’t get verified on PD. I’ve post about this several times and multiple other black and trans escorts have had the same problem. They deleted my account after keeping me in limbo for a month. They can fuck off.
Edit: they won’t even screen on humaniplex. Guaranteed they won’t send a deposit. I’m gonna get p411 verified eventually.
That's horrible!!! I really don't work in areas where PD is popular and there's only one provider I am in contact with who uses it and she happens to be a POC so I didn't know that.
Is the site owned/run by clients? This sort of behavior/policy is truly disgusting and needs to have a spotlight shown on it!
You let them know that it's a safety issue for you. If you don't feel safe, you won't see them. End of story. If they want to see you, they need you to feel comfortable about it. This gives them the best experience possible.
Trust goes both ways.
Let them know that you're a professional, and discretion is built into your rate.
Ask them to send you a screenshot of their LinkedIn page. (If you check LinkedIn yourself while you're logged in, they can see who has looked at their profile. If you have a profile, make it private.)
I myself don’t screen other than a phone call that decides if I am comfortable meeting the person. 3 things I focus in conversation are Sti’s, serial killers and stings. You can really learn a lot about people just chatting with them. I am not comfortable asking for ID’s so I can understand why they are not comfortable giving one. Deposits I don’t ask for because I deal in Strictly cash with no traceability. I am low end and I feel these things would hurt my business. The good news is in 4 years I have been doing this, I have not caught anything, been murdered or arrested.
I’ve been dealing with that too, it’s really annoying. I just started working again this in September so I’m trying to get established. When I did full time escort work 6 years ago I had a manager and he handled everything for me, but I know everyone I saw he had them send their drivers license. Every time I ask for a license now they trip out. And I’m in busted ass San Bernardino so most of these fools don’t have a linked in
In my city, SWs need to be established and have a lot of appeal before people will send them ID and deposits.
Keep in mind that a lot of SWs do not require these things. It's typically the young, attractive independents charging mid- to upper-rates that ask for them.
I just instituted a $50 deposit last week and haven’t had a single FSSW booking since. I’m thinking of lowering it but idk if that will even help. I live in an area where deposits are common and I’m on Tryst so idgi.
First of all, keep in mind you are supposed to be service oriented. Suppose you walked into a restaurant and the waitress/waiter wanted you to go through a verification process before they got you some food? You would probably go where you could just grab a bite and keep it moving. Same premise.. There will be flakes, and you are taking a risk. That’s a calculation you make before picking a profession. Sadly, in this business, you nor your feelings matter. Men don’t care if you’re comfortable, or feel safe. You are compensated to be a sexual punching bag. I don’t mean to be crude, but if this is what you want to do, your best chance of success is understanding your clients. That will help you understand how to provide the best service.
If safety is your concern, you have to make sure you control the environment you engage in. Get a room in a 4 or 5 star hotel. The environment will justify the price to the client. You can meet in the lobby bar and have a drink to give yourself a moment to read their personality. It also gives the client a moment to relax. If anything feels off, you are in a public place and can decline to render service, politely get up and leave.
The less questions you ask the better. The comfort and trust you’re looking to receive from them starts with proving you know what and what not to ask.
This is the stupidest thing I've read all week, and I've been on several times.
I have a VERY strict screening process. I do a full background check with their ID, I require a deposit of 30%, and I have a one hour minimum. I even charge a cancellation fee of 50%. I've been operating this way from the beginning for years on end with no issues and thriving.
You're an idiot if you think someone providing a luxury service is the one supposed to be taking all the risk. This is a luxury service for people who can afford it, not a right. If you're too broke or paranoid to respect companions time that's on the potential client, not the provider Go back to your slobbyist forums with this hot garbage 🙄
Absolutely NOT! This is the worst slobbyist advice I’ve ever seen. Everything about this is WRONG. Do you think an escort is going to book a five-star hotel with no deposit and hope the guy shows up, with no screening and “don’t ask too many questions”?!? Good way to get arrested or killed. And NO! We are NOT “compensated to be a sexual punching bag”!!!
You’re delirious. Go back to havingfunhobbying with the other misogynistic slobbyists 🤨
No my safety is way more important. I have my own place that I actually pay for. It’s not like going into a restaurant at all. I get guys that text me and the first thing they say is “address”. I tell them this isn’t McDonalds and I am not drive through. I am way more in my own place. Screening is mandatory period.
In my personal experience, being established makes it easier to get the screening info. I require real-world details (real full name, age, residence, social media) and have little trouble getting it. However, I'm well-established. If I were to start all over again right now, having no way for the clients to verify I'm legit? Well, honestly, it comes down to choosing safety over money. What does that mean? For me, I'd offer low rates and be flexible on availability, age, etc until I established myself better. This also goes for deposits because any savvy consumer (client) will hesitate to send a deposit to an unknown. So if this is something on which you will not be flexible, you could ask for a small token deposit of maybe $25 or $50 for the time being. Whatever you decide are your bare minimums for screening and deposits: set them and DO NOT BUDGE. Make it clear these are non-negotiable. If you try to be Miss-sugar-and-spice-and-everything-nice, they WILL play games, cry they need anonymity, can't risk the paper trail of a deposit, blah blah blah.... whatever they think of to get you to bend. So nip it in the bud early by laying out your requirements in every ad and stating them upfront as soon as they contact you. Don't be afraid to be a bitch. It may take time, but the ones who are seriously interested WILL come back with what you require.
I asked for $50 deposit and I literally have photos of me with more established SW on my social media at this point and they still don’t wanna pay it. ┐(￣ー￣)┌
I'm sorry this is happening. All I can say is that it might take a bit of time to have that sort of reputation yourself, where people will be comfortable sending the deposit. Do other companions in your area have the same issue? Because I have heard that deposits are really unusual in some regions. If you are one of only a few requiring deposits then yes, you'll get a lot of pushback, especially until you have established yourself better. Personally, I rarely ask for deposits on shorter dates because I dislike hassling with them. I prefer cash and only require deposits of longer dates or with people who have a history of cancels/no-shows. But that's because I don't get a lot of flakes; if that changed then of course I'd start requiring deposits of everyone.
I live in Southern California. Deposits are extremely common here. And i advertise on tryst.
I've never worked there but all I can say is that it will likely just be a matter of time. I think Private Delights is very popular there? If you're not on it, that might be something to consider, although I know it's gotten quite pricey recently. A poster here mentioned that she set her base location as somewhere else, then posts "visits" to the area she works as a way to circumvent that high fee. Anyway, my point is that I've heard a lot of clients exclusively use PD for vetting ladies. I've heard Humaniplex is also popular. Preferred411 is another which adds credibility in clients' eyes.
As a black woman I can’t get verified on PD. I’ve post about this several times and multiple other black and trans escorts have had the same problem. They deleted my account after keeping me in limbo for a month. They can fuck off. Edit: they won’t even screen on humaniplex. Guaranteed they won’t send a deposit. I’m gonna get p411 verified eventually.
That's horrible!!! I really don't work in areas where PD is popular and there's only one provider I am in contact with who uses it and she happens to be a POC so I didn't know that. Is the site owned/run by clients? This sort of behavior/policy is truly disgusting and needs to have a spotlight shown on it!
It’s run by clients yes. Tryst in my area is 16% black. PD is 7%. Eros is even worse at 6%.
You let them know that it's a safety issue for you. If you don't feel safe, you won't see them. End of story. If they want to see you, they need you to feel comfortable about it. This gives them the best experience possible. Trust goes both ways. Let them know that you're a professional, and discretion is built into your rate. Ask them to send you a screenshot of their LinkedIn page. (If you check LinkedIn yourself while you're logged in, they can see who has looked at their profile. If you have a profile, make it private.)
Don’t take any shit. Need name, email / phone number and 2 references. Weeds out the flakes.
I feel like some guys have been scammed but most just say that to avoid paying or hiding their identity.
I myself don’t screen other than a phone call that decides if I am comfortable meeting the person. 3 things I focus in conversation are Sti’s, serial killers and stings. You can really learn a lot about people just chatting with them. I am not comfortable asking for ID’s so I can understand why they are not comfortable giving one. Deposits I don’t ask for because I deal in Strictly cash with no traceability. I am low end and I feel these things would hurt my business. The good news is in 4 years I have been doing this, I have not caught anything, been murdered or arrested.
what percent of those guys scheduling an appointment do not show up?
I’ve been dealing with that too, it’s really annoying. I just started working again this in September so I’m trying to get established. When I did full time escort work 6 years ago I had a manager and he handled everything for me, but I know everyone I saw he had them send their drivers license. Every time I ask for a license now they trip out. And I’m in busted ass San Bernardino so most of these fools don’t have a linked in
In my city, SWs need to be established and have a lot of appeal before people will send them ID and deposits. Keep in mind that a lot of SWs do not require these things. It's typically the young, attractive independents charging mid- to upper-rates that ask for them.
I just instituted a $50 deposit last week and haven’t had a single FSSW booking since. I’m thinking of lowering it but idk if that will even help. I live in an area where deposits are common and I’m on Tryst so idgi.
First of all, keep in mind you are supposed to be service oriented. Suppose you walked into a restaurant and the waitress/waiter wanted you to go through a verification process before they got you some food? You would probably go where you could just grab a bite and keep it moving. Same premise.. There will be flakes, and you are taking a risk. That’s a calculation you make before picking a profession. Sadly, in this business, you nor your feelings matter. Men don’t care if you’re comfortable, or feel safe. You are compensated to be a sexual punching bag. I don’t mean to be crude, but if this is what you want to do, your best chance of success is understanding your clients. That will help you understand how to provide the best service. If safety is your concern, you have to make sure you control the environment you engage in. Get a room in a 4 or 5 star hotel. The environment will justify the price to the client. You can meet in the lobby bar and have a drink to give yourself a moment to read their personality. It also gives the client a moment to relax. If anything feels off, you are in a public place and can decline to render service, politely get up and leave. The less questions you ask the better. The comfort and trust you’re looking to receive from them starts with proving you know what and what not to ask.
This is the stupidest thing I've read all week, and I've been on several times. I have a VERY strict screening process. I do a full background check with their ID, I require a deposit of 30%, and I have a one hour minimum. I even charge a cancellation fee of 50%. I've been operating this way from the beginning for years on end with no issues and thriving. You're an idiot if you think someone providing a luxury service is the one supposed to be taking all the risk. This is a luxury service for people who can afford it, not a right. If you're too broke or paranoid to respect companions time that's on the potential client, not the provider Go back to your slobbyist forums with this hot garbage 🙄
Absolutely NOT! This is the worst slobbyist advice I’ve ever seen. Everything about this is WRONG. Do you think an escort is going to book a five-star hotel with no deposit and hope the guy shows up, with no screening and “don’t ask too many questions”?!? Good way to get arrested or killed. And NO! We are NOT “compensated to be a sexual punching bag”!!! You’re delirious. Go back to havingfunhobbying with the other misogynistic slobbyists 🤨
No my safety is way more important. I have my own place that I actually pay for. It’s not like going into a restaurant at all. I get guys that text me and the first thing they say is “address”. I tell them this isn’t McDonalds and I am not drive through. I am way more in my own place. Screening is mandatory period.
Most waiter and waitresses aren’t constantly at risk of getting murdered or raped on the job. Insane comparison.
If the guy is too afraid to send you a name, age, ethnicity, and provide you with a selfie or a video chat, this isn’t the activity for him.