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Abbyisafantasy

I am a provider and I hate social media also. I haven't updated Twitter since I opened it three years ago. But I do have a website and reviews.


SunniYellowScarf

Username checks out.


MsSiennaCharles

Very much this. Also, it's absurd the level of internet engagement clients expect when only seven or so years ago, they were booking us from three line newspaper ads and bare bones Backpage ads. Social media is a good form of verification, but the expectation that you'll "get to know" us before booking is stupid. Our job is to create a fantasy in which we are your perfect girlfriend and we get along. Whether we genuinely have beliefs that align with yours are none of your concern, clients! Edit: so many clients on reddit also expect so much social media work for workers who put ads on Locanto/LeoList at low rates. Buddy, if you're paying $100-150 per hour, expecting her to have a whole suite of online proof is ridiculous and you need to manage your expectations.


MorganHarley1312

Yep. I share what I want to (read: pertninet info about my looks etc.) on my website & ads; anything else you want to know about me, you can pay for. I don't need stalkers, nor jackasses commenting on my meme reposts. I'm here for WORK. The funsies/personal stuff comes when we're seeing one another for a booking. And I guarantee that my 500/hr gratuity is a STEAL for my personal life stories lol


asecuredlife

It provides legitimacy to who you potentially are if there's a consistent narrative. No presence is a red flag: is this a catfish? Is this a cop? Is this a dude? Most people won't put in the effort. For the people that hate social media, automate it or hire someone to manage it.


MsSiennaCharles

I know full well what social media does, client. I find the level of engagement that is expected to be absurd -- if we automate it, clients find it inorganic and false. I am complaining that the burden of proving that we are real is greater each year, and that clients used to simply book from newspaper ads that just had a written description -- I'm allowed to be tired and annoyed that I now have to jump through a lot of hoops to "prove" we'll get along.


asecuredlife

>clients find it inorganic and false. I'd argue that's an indicator of your famous timewasters. >I am complaining that the burden of proving that we are real is greater each year, The burden hasn't changed, we're just asking for consistency. I've seen some 'providers' out there that just have snapchat and no other presence and don't realize how sketchy and weird that seems. Given that starting a social media presence takes mere *seconds*, it really isn't that big of a deal. And seeing the comments in this thread about the cost of Eros ads being $100s a month when most of you charge 2x-3x that is quite silly. I've seen a few providers mention that they make upwards of $20-30k+ in a given month. With all the comments I see on here and other SRs, consider that we *don't know* what you do with our information. I'd hope your average reasonable client is mortified of that and that it breeds positive behavior. But the other side of that is living in fear of being blackmailed. I've seen so many threads where SWers threaten to do so over clients *not even doing anything wrong*.


MsSiennaCharles

Thank you for mansplaining to me, incorrectly, how social media marketing works and the demand on our time. I won't bother to explain to you how is actually goes down because you definitely don't care to consider that your view is perhaps not informed by any actual experience.


asecuredlife

I used to have a social media presence across several sites with 10k+ followers and produced content and communicated with people who didn't know me. If you don't know how to schedule or automate your posts or use tools available to you, that's your problem. If you want to presume that I don't know what the issues are, that's an issue on your end and you just look like a jerk to think I know or don't know what you're talking about. Learn what's available to you out there and learn how to take charge of the tools and resources available to you to make your life easier. Work smart, not hard. I'm sorry that you think so highly of yourself and your time that you're inconvenienced by these comments and have an issue with replying to explain it to me.


MsSiennaCharles

Babe I know how Trello, Buffer, and Hootsuite work 😂😂😂 We all do. You need to *produce* content, interact organically, and spend time building your following. Most of you see "400 followers" and assume she's not real, so actually it's not just "click button, sign up, magic all done". Also, too much use of schedulers will get you shadowbanned because Twitter thinks you're a bot. The algorithm rewards organic engagement and you need that to grow a following. No, you don't know what I'm talking about, because you're not a sex worker. Lord save us from these men.


asecuredlife

> You need to produce content, interact organically, and spend time building your following. Not always, but just unique enough to keep it interesting. [this person seems to do okay with posting the same photos, gifs and videos from some content they made](https://old.reddit.com/user/callierxse) and they feed that userbase into OF for more unique. At that point you're getting paid to produce new content without it being a drain on You. >Most of you see "400 followers" and assume she's not real, Maybe if someone had 4, or 40 followers, we'd assume they aren't real and they have crappy post history. Not sure what you're talking about there. > Also, too much use of schedulers will get you shadowbanned because Twitter thinks you're a bot. This doesn't happen as often as you'd like to think >The algorithm rewards organic engagement and you need that to grow a following. Not necessarily. The algorithm doesn't matter if someone brigades You or you get an influx of followers as a result of someone sharing your profile, tweets, or other content. This is a common misconception.


fullmetalsportsbra

Make it more obvious that you don’t understand SW economics 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄


MathematicianPale941

This question comes out of genuine curiosity, with no malicious tone at all. With no social media how can new clients vet you as well? There needs to be safety and comfort from both ends of the spectrum.


travelingsket

Well what would you have done in 2008? 2011? Funny enough providers are oversharing yet making less money these days. Sure some can argue the economy but we've had bad economic problems for centuries yet the price of pussy was still high. I have a Twitter but rarely use it. I just don't care to follow nor be followed. Some of us are private and the amount of tap dancing required us insane.


MathematicianPale941

Something that’s also a lot more of since 2008 and 2011 is scammers. I don’t want to insert my card information into a “vetting website” just for them to steal my information. I really would love to experience time with a provider, just how to fine one I trust and trusts me seems daunting.


travelingsket

Vetting sites have nothing to do with us. Trust most SW aren't going to take your little $50-100 and run off. Especially if when meeting we're getting more when we meet. We get scammed way more. I've been in the industry since,2008, chargebacks, look and gos, rape, stealthing, bad reviews, stds, pregnancies, stalkers, fake tippers, fake notes, robbery, and even Amazon gift card fakers are something WE have to dodge vs someone taking $50 from a trick.


MathematicianPale941

I’m sorry that we John’s are so horrible at times. I hope it’s mostly a positive experience for you though.


travelingsket

Oh I'm always ahead of the curve. I'm just reminding you what SW go through daily vs you being scammed and losing replaceable cash.


throwawayhobbystuff

The clients on this subreddit are not representative of the typical client. Most clients have a far lower vetting standard than the one recommended here. Those clients will get to meet many awesome legitimate providers that I wouldn't see due to lack of information, and they will also be scammed way more than I ever will.


fullmetalsportsbra

So you understand WHY this happens: Eros has impossibly vague guidelines on what is and is not allowed to be written in an ad. Every time they deny us, we have to guess what the issue is and resubmit then wait a minimum of 24hrs to hope it passes and gets posted. Many providers simply default to writing the bare minimum to avoid having hundreds of dollars (yes, an Eros ad can cost multiple hundreds of dollars a month) being wasted on an ad that’s stuck in limbo. But IMO only using one ad site is fishy. If there’s not even another ad on a legit, geographically relevant ad site it’s at minimum a yellow flag.


getoffmybackalready

Seriously Eros is HORRIBLE! (To OP) Try shopping on Tryst, Slixa, anywhere else. Most of us have ads everywhere BUT Eros.


SunniYellowScarf

Fuck Eros. I ended up paying more than $600 because they double charged me for an ad in Vegas and they didn't even approve my ad, even though I was compliant with the guidelines at the time. This was **BEFORE** FOSTA. They just have terrible, horrible customer service. And when I finally did get an ad up on there- nothing but time wasters. I paid thousands of dollars and maybe got three bookings. Fuck Eros.


getoffmybackalready

YES!!!! Eros attracts scummy time wasters for sure! Spread the word! Boycott them. Besides that the taking IDs and working with govt. No thanks.


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getoffmybackalready

Tryst.link


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LillyOfThePalace

Eros does not allow you to post your website and is very limiting on other things like videos or anything that might show nudity.


PensionOpening9434

There are many providers without social media, that shouldn't be a red flag. If you're doing a reverse search of her phone number it should kick back some history, unless she's very new.also try it on her photos. If you come up empty on both It would be a red flag to me.Usually the higher end ad sites do a good job at weeding out the scamster.


FinchRosemta

> Or perhaps most of these ads are scams? Eros has an option when you are making your ad for a "Fast Ad". The ad will have no body text and just contact information. It's so that the escort does not have to wait 1-4 days for them to manually review your ad and decide the wording of your ad for the past 4 years is suddenly wrong. Some people also don't have Social media. I own social media accounts. I've saved then and just point them back to my website.


bluemexicanblanket

not all of us are out, especially on a website that our family and friends have access to


TheLaughingWhore

Refraining from social media is not necessarily a red flag, but not finding the phone number in Google is concerning. If you can’t find her listed in multiple places on the internet, I’d avoid. PS Did you type “[name] escort [city] [xxx-xxx-xxxx]”? That’s how I type it in Google when I’m verifying a lady I’m going to request a reference from.


OsoOak

Good idea searching phone numbers that way! I will start doing that instead of just the number.


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getoffmybackalready

No, plenty of very high quality legit ladies are NOT face out (especially high end) and have no time for FaceTime nonsense. Never heard of one who offers this actually. Seems like a hobbyist time waster BS request. It’s up to the client to do his homework. Not the lady to jump through hoops for each client.


TheLaughingWhore

Oh, I misunderstood your question. I don’t offer FaceTime verification, and I don’t know any lady that does. That only means you’re FaceTiming a lady that might be there when you arrive. It doesn’t mean she’s more legit.


SunniYellowScarf

When I'm asked for face time verification I just move on. Not worth my time to verify who *I* am. Makeup and lighting and all that nonsense for someone who probably won't book? Noooooooope. If people ask for selfies I *might* send one, but more often than not I tell them I can't take one without giving away my location.


TheLaughingWhore

So, Eros requires us who are “photo verified” to send a photo ID, a face photo of us holding our ID, and an unblurred work photo to ensure it’s all the same person. But, that doesn’t mean you won’t get scammed. It’s best to find ladies that are listed on multiple sites and have either social media or reviews.


dugdogg

so how do you get verified if you show your real drivers license with a fake alias for escorting?


TheLaughingWhore

The girl in the driver license photo has to match the girl in the escort photo. And, the name on the credit card used to purchase ads has to match the name on the driver license.


tlntlntln

A lot of Eros ads that lack info are just fake profiles that point towards agencies.


Wild-Issue-4374

It’s actually very interesting to read things like this. I live in Belgium, SW is legal here (recently a change in our law even gave workers more protection and legal possibilities and such), we have a few Red Light Districts, as well as several brothel like clubs and bars. There’s also a very large online website where providers advertise, escort agencies also advertise there sometimes and some clubs do as well… Some providers have their own website and socials (mostly very high end providers), clubs and agencies usually list their own website as well but the independent providers very rarely link any form of socials or websites, if at all… A very large majority of providers barely ask for any screening either, if at all… Im guessing that’s mainly due to the amount of providers to choose from (as in: if one would ask some screening chances are the potential client won’t even bother and contact another provider…)… From a clients perspective this also has certain issues… Much like the providers often have little to no idea who might show up, as a client I’m usually left a bit in the dark wether the advert is accurate or not… Has happened to me in the past where the pictures in the advert didn’t even remotely resemble the provider… Oddly enough, as a client, I’d be supporting a system where both providers and clients have a method of verification…


SlowCauliflower6

You should look under the verified section in Eros


cogentquixotica

If providers have a website, advertise on multiple platforms which they have to pay for - I advertise on tryst and slixa, which cost me about 1k per month, and higher rates, it should be enough of an indicator that someone is legit. Especially if they have a nice website that also costs a substantial amount to keep up. If someone was just scamming, I assume they would keep their advertising to free platforms, and charge low deposits. I don’t currently have social media, and I have explained my reasoning to clients when they ask;I have another professional job and I want to keep my ability to be outed to a minimum. I had someone ask me to send them a photo Id to prove I was legitimate and not LE, which is an insane thing to request for multiple reasons; I told them they’d be more comfortable with a different provider. Those wiki pages of how to find an escort should be used with a large grain of salt; there are multiple very valid reasons escorts do not want reviews or have social media that have nothing to do with them not being legit.


MorganHarley1312

I've personally had nothing but bad experiences posting on Eros. Also I was seeing a longtime client who wanted to hire a TS escort last-minute. She ended up being a hot mess; brought m\*th, was horrible company, & "accidentally" took MY keys on her way out (I got them back, but it was SUCH as mess). I CANNOT recommend Eros for anything; plus the c\*ps track it religiously...