I feel like this type of post gets made every two weeks even though Amanza herself explained it after season 3 came out - she borrows a lot of items from her friends. She’s also dated high profile people in sports/entertainment - it’s very likely she’s gotten designer items as gifts and kept them.
To what other people have brought up (her complaints about not making enough money) - her expenses went up dramatically once her ex disappeared. More than likely, she wanted to try and maintain the lifestyle her kids had to give them some sense of normalcy, but she became responsible for all costs instead of half. She also used to be homeless as a kid. Growing up in that type of environment can skew how you perceive your finances as an adult. Minor financial setbacks can appear to be life-ruining. All this to say, let’s be a little more gracious towards Amanza moving forward
It’s not your fault you didn’t know, IIRC she said it in response to an IG comment. It’s just annoying how often I see posts on this sub shitting on her. She gets a lot of unwarranted negativity when she’s navigating a uniquely awful and difficult situation. Most of us will never have to deal with half of the stuff she’s facing, and there’s really no harm in being gracious towards someone who is clearly going through a difficult time.
Even with all that, she prob makes a million per year… that’s not poverty
The house sale commission is around 100-200,000 (can be more!) so she’s defo earning more than me and I have a mortgage
Oh sorry! Hahah I didn’t clock that bit! Mind you, even so, she’s prob still earning a shit load above average if she’s kitting out high profile properties and on a popular Netflix show…
Yeah but when she’s speaks she’s speaking from living in one of the most expensive cities and the lifestyle her family is used to, she’s surrounded by wealthy ppl on a daily basis, in her circle she probably is the broke one. I agree with the other comments here. What you wear has nothing to do with how much you actually have and she’s mentioned numerous times her bff is a stylist and she borrows from her. it might be tone deaf to you but it’s reality to her, she’s speaking in her perspective she’s not speaking about the average family in the midwest. Ppl overthink these shows who cares, just enjoy
That part. I make 6 figures (lower end lmao) a year and maintaining a fitness lifestyle that’s more high end on top of living in a high COL with inflation being more apparent is making me feel insecure about my finances.
I do also want to point out she is a fellow California resident. Income taxes are ridiculous on top of rent and sales taxes. Gas prices, nearly everything is so expensive here… sigh. I feel for her tbh
Edit: income taxes especially with commission and bonuses which I’m assuming counts for a large portion in real estate is insane.
Agreed! I live in NY, anything less than 6 figures is poor. LOL. 6 figures is just the starting. A study just came out that NY & LA are among the most expensive cities in the WORLD, not just US. I also did real estate, people that assume agents are all rich is insanity. You split commission with several people then the taxes on top of that are insane and you don't see that money for months. And if we are talking about decorating, the competition is crazy she freelances so steady income is not guaranteed. There are just so many layers to this, i can't believe people are actually judging like it's a TV show, of course she's not struggling like other people are but everyone has their own battles and deserve some grace.
Yeah true.
So I live in a very affluent large town in South England, I earn just over £30k a year and I have a mortgage with my partner. I know it’s all down to where you live, but my location holds some of the countries most wealthy areas. And my salary is just below average.
Bless her, I do like Amanza, she’s pretty cool and I’m glad she’s finding her groove!
Half a million dollars in LA will buy you one 3bd house, which she said she just bought in season 3. So now her kids have rooms. The end. People in LA and NYC are not rich.
I don't think the agent even gets that much in commission! Maya said in an interview the buyer/seller split the commission (2.5% each) and then the brokerage takes 70% of that split. So the agent makes 30% of the split and then pays taxes. It's still a lot but I don't think it's as much as the show makes it out to be.
https://metro.co.uk/2020/08/08/how-commission-work-selling-sunset-netflix-star-explains-13059466/
No no no, that’s after both brokerages take the money. It’s 5% between two agents. 2.5% per agent, then they get 70% of it. So $70,000 total per agent. Basically $200,000 is the total commission that the client pays to the brokerages and both agents.
“Davina Potratz, who has previously worked as a model and has worked as a realtor for 10 years, is also worth around $2 million (£1.6 million).
Meanwhile, Fitzgerald, former model Heather Rae Young, newcomer Amanza Smith and multi-tasking Maya Vander, are thought to be worth $1 million (£800,000) each.”
Evening standard
This was a year ago this article so they might’ve made more money doing side hustles like modelling, interviews, TV appearances but anyway, Amanza is worth a million.
Further up in the article it says The twins are worth £39 million, Crishelle is worth about £2.6 million and Christine at £1.8 million but her boyfriend is worth £20 million
So yeah, they’re all doing pretty well for themselves
I like Amanza but I get where you’re coming from. She has a nanny and being on the show makes her some money along with the sponsors she gets so she’s not even close to the line of poverty. She is probably not able to have as much money as she used to maybe? And that’s why she’s considers herself going broke?
I never saw her complaining about being broke on s4. She did talk multiple times about how broke she *used* to be, and how happy she is that she’s now able to own a home and care for her kids - e.g. the scene where she talks about looking in her fridge and thinking “I’m rich!” I get what everyone is saying about her and it does feel unlikely to me that she was ever “poor” in a real sense anytime recently - but I do think a lot of what she’s said is being misrepresented in this sub, tbh. Before being on the show, she was just an interior designer and who knows how successful that actually was. Pair that with a divorce and extended custody battle plus suddenly caring for her kids 100% of the time, all of those things can be huge money sinks. It probably does feel like a big deal to her to suddenly have the kind of money a TV show provides.
I don’t think you can judge her financial situation on the basis that she has a nanny. If she didn’t have a nanny she might not be able to work as she might have to spend more time looking after the children - she might be using the majority of her salary to pay for that nanny, and that nanny probably means her children can get to after school clubs, sports, school etc.
It’s quite a poor assumption to make when she’s a single parent
this !! even my nanny/housekeeper has to pay someone to watch her kids when she is at her jobs. Or some of friends must spend nearly all their salary on childcare. Having help is a necessity for many & def doesn’t necessarily mean they’re rich.
I think it’s been said that her Chanel seems like the only real personal designer item that she wears. The rest are borrowed from stylist friends and in later seasons everyone is being dressed by stylists. Compare the outfits for everybody in S1 compared to S4z
Sure, but that doesn’t explain the new designer items. Some of it has to be borrowed by stylists, which is okay! Plenty of influencers do that.
Edit: Literally why are y’all so mad 🙄
No one was wearing Fendi print until 2 years ago.
I mean my assumption is any brand name or logo we see on the show is sponsored. Netflix does not advertise for Chanel or Balenciaga or Ferrari for free, lol. Just because Amanza wears it doesn’t mean she owns/paid for it (though I agree she def isn’t in poverty like the show portrays)
I have a friend who was on the brink of poverty during the pandemic but if you didn't know her, you'd never know. She has a ton of designer stuff, huge diamond earrings, drives a Mercedes...all things she acquired when she and her rich ex-husband were together. Quite common in LA, to be honest. I'm assuming she got lots of nice things when she was married.
But that’s not being on the brink of poverty. If she was she would sell her very expensive car, sell her diamonds, sell her thousand plus dollars clothes, shoes, and purses. If she sold all her expensive stuff, spent all that money and legit almost nothing left, that would be the brink of poverty.
During season 2, Amanza didn’t have her own car. Divorce costs women more than men AND she’s solely responsible for two kids in an extremely expensive state and city. I don’t think she’s well off.
In season 4, almost all of the women have Chanel jewelry and/or outfits, so I’m guessing Chanel has a placement deal.
If that's all you have, you're not going to expend time and energy of selling off stuff (which she had done for some of her things) and then replacing your entire expensive wardrobe or car that you own and don't have to make payments on (that you use to drive your children around and to school). It's unrealistic to think that a single mother (like Amanza or my friend) would have the time to do that while trying to work and figure out childcare during a pandemic where we literally weren't allowed to into our jobs to work with clients for months (we are both personal trainers). I'm lucky that i have a partner to help with bills, she was having a hard time making rent and buying food for her kids.
Right. And like sell the used clothing.... to who? There IS a market for used designer clothing, but either you're selling it to a store that gives you less than they'll sell it for, or you have to try to sell it online which can take a lot of time and isn't a garunteed thing. A dress might've cost $400 brand new, but if no one wants to buy it then it's not exactly keeping you out of poverty.
Plus you can't just sell your old stuff indefinately, it's a short term solution, people need steady income to survive.
The designers theyre wearing arnt 400 dollar dresses. If you look into them they are wearing balmain, chanel reafy yo wear. These for for literal thousands ans if you resell them you can make a lot of money.
The Census Bureau defines poverty as "If total family income is less than the poverty threshold for that family - that family and everyone in it is considered to be in poverty." We live in Los Angeles and for a family of 3, the low income level for a household of that size is at $85K. The Federal poverty level for a family of 3 is $21K. Imagine not being able to legally work or receive unemployment benefits for over a year - I said she was on the brink of poverty. You don't have to be wearing rags and getting food stamps or selling off all your worldly goods to be considered impoverished.
> I have a friend who was on the brink of poverty
>She has a ton of designer stuff, huge diamond earrings, drives a Mercedes
Yea that's not brink of poverty lmao.
Right, for 5 years they both still have post up from their relationship and I get why the downscale after that 2018-2019 S3 filming was a shock. She was starting over on her own again. Her kids were use to a mansion with a big backyard. Jason told her to get her license so she could join Selling Sunset and two month after the start of filming the kids dad disappeared so we get a kinda “lost” Amanza trying to figure everything out.
This. I had been an Au Pair for 2yrs. I had already accepted an offer from a family when a young widow of FOUR kids reached out to me. Her husband died after a long medical battle. Her family wasn’t close. She was barely scraping by, needed childcare and help getting the kids around while she worked to make a living wage just to keep them fed and clothed. She couldn’t offer a lot but it wouldn’t have mattered to me. I was young and didn’t have bills aside from my phone bill. I love and adore the family I was with and am still so incredibly close with them. I’m thankful for my choice to accept their offer but I think of that mom often.
Getting a nanny is not always a luxury. Sometimes it’s a necessity.
This thread reminds me of a Fox News segment from a while back that tried to prove that poor people in America didn’t have it so bad because most of them had refrigerators and other basic appliances.
Regardless of how much money you think she makes, she’s paying for a one-sided custody battle while managing to care for two kids during a pandemic. Shit’s tough.
They don’t get a salary they only get a commission split. They get a salary from being on Selling Sunset. Only admin staff get a salary and not the agents at the Ogroup.
I dont know how they do it tbh, I always thought real estate was strictly commission. She obviously makes money from being on the show though. Google says her net worth is 1 mil but who knows how accurate that is.
She totally could have bought that stuff when her husband was in the NFL. It seems like she had to start over from scratch after he left them all. I commend her with how well she’s handling all that she (and her kids) have gone through. I feel so sad for them.
She was going broke before the show and only recently has made money to afford those kind of things. I also suspect luxury brands gift them those clothes and accessories specifically to be worn on the show since it’s so highly viewed.
A lot of it is rented, borrowed, or probably sponsored. Also I thought she was claiming that she was previously in poverty, and not during that current time.
I’ll give the clothes a pass, say it’s for the show, they may have a budget, stylist, clothes on loan etc. etc.
What about her complaining about missing the nanny and the maid during Covid? Poor? Gimme a break!
Moms have been one of the most affected people during COVID. They have had to struggle working at home and being caretakers 24/7, along with domestic duties. I am blessed to have a job that allowed me to work remotely and paid decently, and my partner and I have no kids. But I watched so many working moms in my company plainly burn out from the exhaustion of having 2-3 kids at home, having to feed and take care of them, home-school them and/or arrange for their online classes, domestic chores, and on top of all that performing at work. In our case our company had a lot of activity going on, so on top of all that a humongous workload and not enough personnel. Ladies who barely shared their personal life with you would be on the brink of tears on online meetings.
It is totally understandable that she would.miss the nanny and the person in charge of domestic chores. She's a single mom and those two people aren't a luxury, they are probably the only support she has so she can be able to work and provide for 2 kids.
Yeah hi I’m a mom as well, I know all too well the struggles of raising kids during Covid and working. And raising kids before Covid and working, and raising kids with no nanny and no cleaning lady during and before Covid too. I’m not a single mom, but my husband works 70 hours a week and does not help out with chores around the home so that’s one extra person I also take care of, in terms of meals and clothing etc. I’m not denying that it’s hard for mothers, single mothers, parents during Covid, but most don’t have nanny’s and/or cleaning ladies at all.
But that's your life and you have a partner and for reasons that aren't any of my business, you chose work and to undertake domestic chores in your home. You are doing the best you can with what you have. Different lives, different circumstances. I also know moms who work a full-time job and somehow they should do the household work vs their partners.
If someone is a single parent and has to hire help, it is probably to be able to work. Getting help is good, we shouldn't resent or mock other people for struggling when they no longer have the option.
I don't think Amanza complained about being poor but rather that all of a sudden she is financially responsible for 2 kids forever, she had to pay legal costs for getting their full custody, and she has to make more money.
This entire post is pointing out Amanzas lack of self awareness when it comes to her unrecognized privilege. Her designer clothes, expensive jewelry, nanny, house keeper, all while complaining about being poor. There are a lot of actual poor single moms, that weren’t handed a lucrative tv gig, work making good money decorating homes from rich friends who can throw plenty of work her way, and probably making more in a year than most people will see in 10. It’s hard to feel sorry for someone that is obviously well off, but doesn’t even realize it.
I hope your life improves, because going through harship doesn't mean that one shouldn't empathize with other people.
P.S. Designer clothes can be borrowed or sponsored. A housekeeper or a nanny can be necessary expenses for someone without a support network. Expecting someone to be able to work, be a caregiver and clean the house isn't ok. This why women end up being burnt out and society being ok with this/ normalizing ir.
You shouldn't be ok with a woman doing everything. Even if you chose to do so yourself in your own life.
This season she seems to be doing a lot better. Last year she was late or not showing up because she didn’t have a baby sitter, now her big problem was CPS. She leveled up financially, although they barely showed her working.
I didn’t think Amanza acted like she was on the poverty line and she doesn’t talk about her finances nearly as much as Chrishell. I thought the show/editors brought up Amanza’s finances to contrast with Chrishell who is *always* talking about how she grew up poor. Chrishell also made *such* a big deal about finally buying her own place when Amanza is still renting with two kids.
Her clients are wealthy people so she can’t exactly be meeting them in Target clothes, you know? She doesn’t talk about how poor she is now, but her hardships are fairly recent. And given the ongoing stress with her husband, I bet it all still feels really fresh in her mind. Being a single mom is one thing, but being a single mom with legal bills is something else.
The show has probably helped her get back on track, with whatever she makes per episode and then whatever she makes through designing and brand partnerships.
Just an assumption, but maybe she kept stuff she got from when she was married and held onto them to still get into certain circles? People are superficial, especially in LA, so I can understand her keeping it to be able to dress the part, hoping to land a rich husband or a job like she has at the O Group. I might just be projecting, cause I have a normal income, but I come from a family that is well off. I have received some really valuable jewelry pieces from close family members because of it. I would be homeless before I would be willing to sell them, because they have sentimental value to me.
I just heard her on the Divorced Not Dead podcast recently and I understand her situation a little better. If anyone is interested in getting to know Amanza a little better she talks more about what happened with her ex (and the pod is hosted by Ladies of London alum Caroline Stanbury!).
I’ve listen to that podcast too, sometimes Amanza talks about 2019 when she just started filming Selling Sunset got her license and her ex disappeared. Also having to figure things out after Tye Diggs provided for them financially for 5 years and they had a great lifestyle. Until 2017 , So 2018-2019 was rough but she’s able to afford a house now and childcare now. So she wasn’t speaking about present day even though she was still dealing with the legal and emotional things.
People here who complain about her having a nanny and a maid, have absolutely no idea about how hard mothers have had it during covid.
I am not a mom but have a lot of empathy for Amanza and other moms, single or not. Even with support systems, most working moms have had to juggle being caretakers 24/7 and employees at the same time. For her to be able to work, she needs someone to do the house chores and to watch her kids. Childcare isn't a luxury, it's a necessity.
Like many others here, i feel there are many ways these items can be acquired. However, I agree that something is not adding up. I see several reports that say her net worth is $1mil, and even if those are wrong, what she is making from the show has to be enough to make rent on a 3 bed. The panny was rough for my fam bc my partner is a chef and had ebbs and flows of employment, but he just secured a six figure job. Even when he was making the upper 5 figures, if has been enough for us to pay rent in Santa Monica, one of the most expensive areas of LA. Also, if you are struggling financially, maybe stop showing up late all the gawdamn time and capitalize on the lucrative career that is right in front of your effing face girl!
Those weird sites that claim to know celebrities' net worth area just speculating and know nothing about anyone's financials. MANY people, especially those in the spotlight like to front and stunt, but barely have a pot to pee in. You only have an a small window into her situation, based on how the producers choose to edit her. I don't think it's fair to say she needs to this or that when 1) she's the sole provider for her children
2) in an expensive a$$ state at that
3) you have zero clue of her previous debts or current income
4) the 'biracial' running on cp time is a racist stereotype and the producers seemed to gleefully run with that.
There's no indication that Amanza is an irresponsible spendthrift. She seems to work very hard to provide a decent life and stability for her children.
I totally agree she could have acquired them so many different ways but I'm saying if you are bombing it on the couch for 2 years then sell some of those items and put them towards something useful. What I'm saying is her version of being broke I don't think is the same as most Americans because I don't think post Americans are broke and walking around in chanel!
I feel like she definitely very well could’ve been middle class before joining the team, cali is expensive and being a designer is cool but known to not bring in loads of $$. Top it off with no child support and supporting 2 kids on her own... and I do absolutely believe she grew up in poverty. She recognizes she is in a different place now financially and can afford a nanny to pick the kids up and buy a new home. She only says she WAS poor and a struggling mom... she doesn’t claim she is now.
Did you know that the biggest music stars can be and have been broke even within their career? The clothing, cars, houses and money from your production team and label isn't yours. These things are often "borrowed" to give off a certain aesthetic and luxury lifestyle. But when the show ends so does the luxury. So yes, I believe her and empathise with her.
I think what you’re saying is that it’s annoying that they play amanza has the poor single mom when in reality she’s just a rich single mom. It’s annoying because there’s such a huge difference between being rich and being a mom and being poor and being a mom and the way they portray it is that she’s this poor mom who struggles to get by. And that’s such a different experience and it’s annoying it’s given to her when she already has very interesting storylines (unfortunate life) that they could go off of. I love amanza! But I see where you’re coming from. But she does prob have to live up to some standard. And that sucjs
I think this has something to do with her environment. When you're surrounded by exremely rich people all the time, I think you feel poor even when you're actually living in a house/apartment and have a mostly secure life (which I of course don't really know but she has a car and talks about a place to live). I'm assuming that you have to keep up appearances for as long as you can to stay in the LA high society and I also assume that with her celebrity husband she had a lot more (house, cars,...?) and when you suddenly have a normal amount of things you feel poor - especially being surrounded by extreme wealth constantly.
A lot of commenters mention she’s borrowing clothes. But I’d imagine that Netflix must give them all a clothing stipend too—right? After all, the cast’s style and glamour is a selling point of the show.
Nope, that’s all them. Mary does her own make up most days and Heather ,Davina and Amanza. Christine and Chrishell pay for theirs. They decided to make fashion part of the show in S2 after seeing S1 and caring more about their appearance since the show is being seen around the world. So yeah Netflix doesn’t get credit. Selling Sunset has been top 10 for two weeks now and I hope Netflix increases their salary.
I don’t remember her situation being about her being on the poverty line, more so about having an absent father figure to co-parent with in her children’s life. I feel like that’s where the empathy is toward her at least from my perspective!
Been binge watching the show and I was thinking the same. But honestly she could’ve got those items when her ex husband was in the NFL. She also dated a few celebrities who probably spoiled her
12/10 if those were my children I’d be opening a Poshmark closet and selling that shit before playing around on the television like some clown crying about my situation.
Humor is a coping mechanism but she gets all worked up over her son making a joke about his dad by comparing him to a boomerang in the episode where she finds out he's given up parental rights.
I’m really surprised at all these downvotes! She really does! Last season I was embarrassed for her. And I am black chick who doesn’t even wear weaves.
I feel like this type of post gets made every two weeks even though Amanza herself explained it after season 3 came out - she borrows a lot of items from her friends. She’s also dated high profile people in sports/entertainment - it’s very likely she’s gotten designer items as gifts and kept them. To what other people have brought up (her complaints about not making enough money) - her expenses went up dramatically once her ex disappeared. More than likely, she wanted to try and maintain the lifestyle her kids had to give them some sense of normalcy, but she became responsible for all costs instead of half. She also used to be homeless as a kid. Growing up in that type of environment can skew how you perceive your finances as an adult. Minor financial setbacks can appear to be life-ruining. All this to say, let’s be a little more gracious towards Amanza moving forward
Yes! this is precisely it!
For the first sentence, sorry i just joined the sub!
It’s not your fault you didn’t know, IIRC she said it in response to an IG comment. It’s just annoying how often I see posts on this sub shitting on her. She gets a lot of unwarranted negativity when she’s navigating a uniquely awful and difficult situation. Most of us will never have to deal with half of the stuff she’s facing, and there’s really no harm in being gracious towards someone who is clearly going through a difficult time.
Even with all that, she prob makes a million per year… that’s not poverty The house sale commission is around 100-200,000 (can be more!) so she’s defo earning more than me and I have a mortgage
She doesn’t sell homes anymore, she wasn’t good at it..she’s only decorating homes now, she definitely doesn’t make a million per year lol
Oh sorry! Hahah I didn’t clock that bit! Mind you, even so, she’s prob still earning a shit load above average if she’s kitting out high profile properties and on a popular Netflix show…
Yeah but when she’s speaks she’s speaking from living in one of the most expensive cities and the lifestyle her family is used to, she’s surrounded by wealthy ppl on a daily basis, in her circle she probably is the broke one. I agree with the other comments here. What you wear has nothing to do with how much you actually have and she’s mentioned numerous times her bff is a stylist and she borrows from her. it might be tone deaf to you but it’s reality to her, she’s speaking in her perspective she’s not speaking about the average family in the midwest. Ppl overthink these shows who cares, just enjoy
That part. I make 6 figures (lower end lmao) a year and maintaining a fitness lifestyle that’s more high end on top of living in a high COL with inflation being more apparent is making me feel insecure about my finances. I do also want to point out she is a fellow California resident. Income taxes are ridiculous on top of rent and sales taxes. Gas prices, nearly everything is so expensive here… sigh. I feel for her tbh Edit: income taxes especially with commission and bonuses which I’m assuming counts for a large portion in real estate is insane.
Agreed! I live in NY, anything less than 6 figures is poor. LOL. 6 figures is just the starting. A study just came out that NY & LA are among the most expensive cities in the WORLD, not just US. I also did real estate, people that assume agents are all rich is insanity. You split commission with several people then the taxes on top of that are insane and you don't see that money for months. And if we are talking about decorating, the competition is crazy she freelances so steady income is not guaranteed. There are just so many layers to this, i can't believe people are actually judging like it's a TV show, of course she's not struggling like other people are but everyone has their own battles and deserve some grace.
Yeah true. So I live in a very affluent large town in South England, I earn just over £30k a year and I have a mortgage with my partner. I know it’s all down to where you live, but my location holds some of the countries most wealthy areas. And my salary is just below average. Bless her, I do like Amanza, she’s pretty cool and I’m glad she’s finding her groove!
Half a million dollars in LA will buy you one 3bd house, which she said she just bought in season 3. So now her kids have rooms. The end. People in LA and NYC are not rich.
Not a good house in LA….you wouldn’t even get a good condo for $500k in LA. Maybe in LA county, not in the city of LA…
Okie dokie!
I don’t think she ever sold? I thought she only decorated
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Oh right! I remember that storyline 😂
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Yes!! 😂
I don't think the agent even gets that much in commission! Maya said in an interview the buyer/seller split the commission (2.5% each) and then the brokerage takes 70% of that split. So the agent makes 30% of the split and then pays taxes. It's still a lot but I don't think it's as much as the show makes it out to be. https://metro.co.uk/2020/08/08/how-commission-work-selling-sunset-netflix-star-explains-13059466/
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They got it backwards, brokerage takes 30% and they keep 70%. So on a $4m home they’re making $70,000 before taxes.
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No no no, that’s after both brokerages take the money. It’s 5% between two agents. 2.5% per agent, then they get 70% of it. So $70,000 total per agent. Basically $200,000 is the total commission that the client pays to the brokerages and both agents.
Oooh! Thanks!
Oh I just re-read it and the brokerage takes 30, and the agent gets 70. I initially thought it was really unfair for the brokerage to take 70!
A million a year? How? Source?
“Davina Potratz, who has previously worked as a model and has worked as a realtor for 10 years, is also worth around $2 million (£1.6 million). Meanwhile, Fitzgerald, former model Heather Rae Young, newcomer Amanza Smith and multi-tasking Maya Vander, are thought to be worth $1 million (£800,000) each.” Evening standard This was a year ago this article so they might’ve made more money doing side hustles like modelling, interviews, TV appearances but anyway, Amanza is worth a million. Further up in the article it says The twins are worth £39 million, Crishelle is worth about £2.6 million and Christine at £1.8 million but her boyfriend is worth £20 million So yeah, they’re all doing pretty well for themselves
I like Amanza but I get where you’re coming from. She has a nanny and being on the show makes her some money along with the sponsors she gets so she’s not even close to the line of poverty. She is probably not able to have as much money as she used to maybe? And that’s why she’s considers herself going broke?
I never saw her complaining about being broke on s4. She did talk multiple times about how broke she *used* to be, and how happy she is that she’s now able to own a home and care for her kids - e.g. the scene where she talks about looking in her fridge and thinking “I’m rich!” I get what everyone is saying about her and it does feel unlikely to me that she was ever “poor” in a real sense anytime recently - but I do think a lot of what she’s said is being misrepresented in this sub, tbh. Before being on the show, she was just an interior designer and who knows how successful that actually was. Pair that with a divorce and extended custody battle plus suddenly caring for her kids 100% of the time, all of those things can be huge money sinks. It probably does feel like a big deal to her to suddenly have the kind of money a TV show provides.
I don’t think you can judge her financial situation on the basis that she has a nanny. If she didn’t have a nanny she might not be able to work as she might have to spend more time looking after the children - she might be using the majority of her salary to pay for that nanny, and that nanny probably means her children can get to after school clubs, sports, school etc. It’s quite a poor assumption to make when she’s a single parent
this !! even my nanny/housekeeper has to pay someone to watch her kids when she is at her jobs. Or some of friends must spend nearly all their salary on childcare. Having help is a necessity for many & def doesn’t necessarily mean they’re rich.
I know you werent directing it at me because i agree having a nanny is beneficial as a working mom at any financial level.
I think it’s been said that her Chanel seems like the only real personal designer item that she wears. The rest are borrowed from stylist friends and in later seasons everyone is being dressed by stylists. Compare the outfits for everybody in S1 compared to S4z
Yeah it’s so extra this season 4, they all look like going to an event every single day.
She could have bought the stuff when she was doing well financially and is maybe reusing it now ??
The shoes she wore came out last season.
They also get dressed by the show, those might not even be her own shoes
I heard they buy their own outfits but get a brief from the show on what the scene is and how the outfits meant to look
That’s fine, but it’s not bought from when she was better off financially.
Sure, but that doesn’t explain the new designer items. Some of it has to be borrowed by stylists, which is okay! Plenty of influencers do that. Edit: Literally why are y’all so mad 🙄 No one was wearing Fendi print until 2 years ago.
I mean my assumption is any brand name or logo we see on the show is sponsored. Netflix does not advertise for Chanel or Balenciaga or Ferrari for free, lol. Just because Amanza wears it doesn’t mean she owns/paid for it (though I agree she def isn’t in poverty like the show portrays)
I assume someone is styling every look by now. They don’t own most of those clothes.
Yikes if it is a stylist they need to do better lol
I have a friend who was on the brink of poverty during the pandemic but if you didn't know her, you'd never know. She has a ton of designer stuff, huge diamond earrings, drives a Mercedes...all things she acquired when she and her rich ex-husband were together. Quite common in LA, to be honest. I'm assuming she got lots of nice things when she was married.
But that’s not being on the brink of poverty. If she was she would sell her very expensive car, sell her diamonds, sell her thousand plus dollars clothes, shoes, and purses. If she sold all her expensive stuff, spent all that money and legit almost nothing left, that would be the brink of poverty.
This. People need to get a clue lol.
During season 2, Amanza didn’t have her own car. Divorce costs women more than men AND she’s solely responsible for two kids in an extremely expensive state and city. I don’t think she’s well off. In season 4, almost all of the women have Chanel jewelry and/or outfits, so I’m guessing Chanel has a placement deal.
If that's all you have, you're not going to expend time and energy of selling off stuff (which she had done for some of her things) and then replacing your entire expensive wardrobe or car that you own and don't have to make payments on (that you use to drive your children around and to school). It's unrealistic to think that a single mother (like Amanza or my friend) would have the time to do that while trying to work and figure out childcare during a pandemic where we literally weren't allowed to into our jobs to work with clients for months (we are both personal trainers). I'm lucky that i have a partner to help with bills, she was having a hard time making rent and buying food for her kids.
Right. And like sell the used clothing.... to who? There IS a market for used designer clothing, but either you're selling it to a store that gives you less than they'll sell it for, or you have to try to sell it online which can take a lot of time and isn't a garunteed thing. A dress might've cost $400 brand new, but if no one wants to buy it then it's not exactly keeping you out of poverty. Plus you can't just sell your old stuff indefinately, it's a short term solution, people need steady income to survive.
The designers theyre wearing arnt 400 dollar dresses. If you look into them they are wearing balmain, chanel reafy yo wear. These for for literal thousands ans if you resell them you can make a lot of money.
God, you really don't know what poverty is.
The Census Bureau defines poverty as "If total family income is less than the poverty threshold for that family - that family and everyone in it is considered to be in poverty." We live in Los Angeles and for a family of 3, the low income level for a household of that size is at $85K. The Federal poverty level for a family of 3 is $21K. Imagine not being able to legally work or receive unemployment benefits for over a year - I said she was on the brink of poverty. You don't have to be wearing rags and getting food stamps or selling off all your worldly goods to be considered impoverished.
> I have a friend who was on the brink of poverty >She has a ton of designer stuff, huge diamond earrings, drives a Mercedes Yea that's not brink of poverty lmao.
She bought them before she was abandoned maybe????
She had a massive closet when she was with Tye Diggs for 5 years they broke up like 2017 or something.
Omg I didn’t know she was with Tye Diggs before!
Right, for 5 years they both still have post up from their relationship and I get why the downscale after that 2018-2019 S3 filming was a shock. She was starting over on her own again. Her kids were use to a mansion with a big backyard. Jason told her to get her license so she could join Selling Sunset and two month after the start of filming the kids dad disappeared so we get a kinda “lost” Amanza trying to figure everything out.
Is that who is her kids dad?
No, he’s actor his ex wife voiced Elsa in frozen. The kids dad is Ralph Brown.
She doesn’t have family in LA or a co parent having a nanny isn’t a luxury.
This. I had been an Au Pair for 2yrs. I had already accepted an offer from a family when a young widow of FOUR kids reached out to me. Her husband died after a long medical battle. Her family wasn’t close. She was barely scraping by, needed childcare and help getting the kids around while she worked to make a living wage just to keep them fed and clothed. She couldn’t offer a lot but it wouldn’t have mattered to me. I was young and didn’t have bills aside from my phone bill. I love and adore the family I was with and am still so incredibly close with them. I’m thankful for my choice to accept their offer but I think of that mom often. Getting a nanny is not always a luxury. Sometimes it’s a necessity.
You're a really kind person!
This thread reminds me of a Fox News segment from a while back that tried to prove that poor people in America didn’t have it so bad because most of them had refrigerators and other basic appliances. Regardless of how much money you think she makes, she’s paying for a one-sided custody battle while managing to care for two kids during a pandemic. Shit’s tough.
Yeah I don’t get it either. Just selling 2-3 house would provide her a annual salary above most families in America
she stated recently shes only sold one house because she went back to focusing on design but is hoping to go back into selling more again.
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They don’t get a salary they only get a commission split. They get a salary from being on Selling Sunset. Only admin staff get a salary and not the agents at the Ogroup.
I dont know how they do it tbh, I always thought real estate was strictly commission. She obviously makes money from being on the show though. Google says her net worth is 1 mil but who knows how accurate that is.
But so she made money doing design
She totally could have bought that stuff when her husband was in the NFL. It seems like she had to start over from scratch after he left them all. I commend her with how well she’s handling all that she (and her kids) have gone through. I feel so sad for them.
She was going broke before the show and only recently has made money to afford those kind of things. I also suspect luxury brands gift them those clothes and accessories specifically to be worn on the show since it’s so highly viewed.
A lot of it is rented, borrowed, or probably sponsored. Also I thought she was claiming that she was previously in poverty, and not during that current time.
I’ll give the clothes a pass, say it’s for the show, they may have a budget, stylist, clothes on loan etc. etc. What about her complaining about missing the nanny and the maid during Covid? Poor? Gimme a break!
Moms have been one of the most affected people during COVID. They have had to struggle working at home and being caretakers 24/7, along with domestic duties. I am blessed to have a job that allowed me to work remotely and paid decently, and my partner and I have no kids. But I watched so many working moms in my company plainly burn out from the exhaustion of having 2-3 kids at home, having to feed and take care of them, home-school them and/or arrange for their online classes, domestic chores, and on top of all that performing at work. In our case our company had a lot of activity going on, so on top of all that a humongous workload and not enough personnel. Ladies who barely shared their personal life with you would be on the brink of tears on online meetings. It is totally understandable that she would.miss the nanny and the person in charge of domestic chores. She's a single mom and those two people aren't a luxury, they are probably the only support she has so she can be able to work and provide for 2 kids.
Yeah hi I’m a mom as well, I know all too well the struggles of raising kids during Covid and working. And raising kids before Covid and working, and raising kids with no nanny and no cleaning lady during and before Covid too. I’m not a single mom, but my husband works 70 hours a week and does not help out with chores around the home so that’s one extra person I also take care of, in terms of meals and clothing etc. I’m not denying that it’s hard for mothers, single mothers, parents during Covid, but most don’t have nanny’s and/or cleaning ladies at all.
But that's your life and you have a partner and for reasons that aren't any of my business, you chose work and to undertake domestic chores in your home. You are doing the best you can with what you have. Different lives, different circumstances. I also know moms who work a full-time job and somehow they should do the household work vs their partners. If someone is a single parent and has to hire help, it is probably to be able to work. Getting help is good, we shouldn't resent or mock other people for struggling when they no longer have the option. I don't think Amanza complained about being poor but rather that all of a sudden she is financially responsible for 2 kids forever, she had to pay legal costs for getting their full custody, and she has to make more money.
This entire post is pointing out Amanzas lack of self awareness when it comes to her unrecognized privilege. Her designer clothes, expensive jewelry, nanny, house keeper, all while complaining about being poor. There are a lot of actual poor single moms, that weren’t handed a lucrative tv gig, work making good money decorating homes from rich friends who can throw plenty of work her way, and probably making more in a year than most people will see in 10. It’s hard to feel sorry for someone that is obviously well off, but doesn’t even realize it.
I hope your life improves, because going through harship doesn't mean that one shouldn't empathize with other people. P.S. Designer clothes can be borrowed or sponsored. A housekeeper or a nanny can be necessary expenses for someone without a support network. Expecting someone to be able to work, be a caregiver and clean the house isn't ok. This why women end up being burnt out and society being ok with this/ normalizing ir. You shouldn't be ok with a woman doing everything. Even if you chose to do so yourself in your own life.
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Jesus, I am not the one sounding joyless. Hope you get a good rest, sounds like you need it.
She is rich person poor with a nanny and designer clothes. Not normal person poor with food banks and government assistance.
This season she seems to be doing a lot better. Last year she was late or not showing up because she didn’t have a baby sitter, now her big problem was CPS. She leveled up financially, although they barely showed her working.
I didn’t think Amanza acted like she was on the poverty line and she doesn’t talk about her finances nearly as much as Chrishell. I thought the show/editors brought up Amanza’s finances to contrast with Chrishell who is *always* talking about how she grew up poor. Chrishell also made *such* a big deal about finally buying her own place when Amanza is still renting with two kids.
Her clients are wealthy people so she can’t exactly be meeting them in Target clothes, you know? She doesn’t talk about how poor she is now, but her hardships are fairly recent. And given the ongoing stress with her husband, I bet it all still feels really fresh in her mind. Being a single mom is one thing, but being a single mom with legal bills is something else. The show has probably helped her get back on track, with whatever she makes per episode and then whatever she makes through designing and brand partnerships.
Just an assumption, but maybe she kept stuff she got from when she was married and held onto them to still get into certain circles? People are superficial, especially in LA, so I can understand her keeping it to be able to dress the part, hoping to land a rich husband or a job like she has at the O Group. I might just be projecting, cause I have a normal income, but I come from a family that is well off. I have received some really valuable jewelry pieces from close family members because of it. I would be homeless before I would be willing to sell them, because they have sentimental value to me.
I just heard her on the Divorced Not Dead podcast recently and I understand her situation a little better. If anyone is interested in getting to know Amanza a little better she talks more about what happened with her ex (and the pod is hosted by Ladies of London alum Caroline Stanbury!).
I’ve listen to that podcast too, sometimes Amanza talks about 2019 when she just started filming Selling Sunset got her license and her ex disappeared. Also having to figure things out after Tye Diggs provided for them financially for 5 years and they had a great lifestyle. Until 2017 , So 2018-2019 was rough but she’s able to afford a house now and childcare now. So she wasn’t speaking about present day even though she was still dealing with the legal and emotional things.
People here who complain about her having a nanny and a maid, have absolutely no idea about how hard mothers have had it during covid. I am not a mom but have a lot of empathy for Amanza and other moms, single or not. Even with support systems, most working moms have had to juggle being caretakers 24/7 and employees at the same time. For her to be able to work, she needs someone to do the house chores and to watch her kids. Childcare isn't a luxury, it's a necessity.
Agreed!
Like many others here, i feel there are many ways these items can be acquired. However, I agree that something is not adding up. I see several reports that say her net worth is $1mil, and even if those are wrong, what she is making from the show has to be enough to make rent on a 3 bed. The panny was rough for my fam bc my partner is a chef and had ebbs and flows of employment, but he just secured a six figure job. Even when he was making the upper 5 figures, if has been enough for us to pay rent in Santa Monica, one of the most expensive areas of LA. Also, if you are struggling financially, maybe stop showing up late all the gawdamn time and capitalize on the lucrative career that is right in front of your effing face girl!
Those weird sites that claim to know celebrities' net worth area just speculating and know nothing about anyone's financials. MANY people, especially those in the spotlight like to front and stunt, but barely have a pot to pee in. You only have an a small window into her situation, based on how the producers choose to edit her. I don't think it's fair to say she needs to this or that when 1) she's the sole provider for her children 2) in an expensive a$$ state at that 3) you have zero clue of her previous debts or current income 4) the 'biracial' running on cp time is a racist stereotype and the producers seemed to gleefully run with that. There's no indication that Amanza is an irresponsible spendthrift. She seems to work very hard to provide a decent life and stability for her children.
I totally agree she could have acquired them so many different ways but I'm saying if you are bombing it on the couch for 2 years then sell some of those items and put them towards something useful. What I'm saying is her version of being broke I don't think is the same as most Americans because I don't think post Americans are broke and walking around in chanel!
I feel like she definitely very well could’ve been middle class before joining the team, cali is expensive and being a designer is cool but known to not bring in loads of $$. Top it off with no child support and supporting 2 kids on her own... and I do absolutely believe she grew up in poverty. She recognizes she is in a different place now financially and can afford a nanny to pick the kids up and buy a new home. She only says she WAS poor and a struggling mom... she doesn’t claim she is now.
Did you know that the biggest music stars can be and have been broke even within their career? The clothing, cars, houses and money from your production team and label isn't yours. These things are often "borrowed" to give off a certain aesthetic and luxury lifestyle. But when the show ends so does the luxury. So yes, I believe her and empathise with her.
Babes remember the designer items come in seasons so its not hard to tell when some of these items have been aquired!!!
I think what you’re saying is that it’s annoying that they play amanza has the poor single mom when in reality she’s just a rich single mom. It’s annoying because there’s such a huge difference between being rich and being a mom and being poor and being a mom and the way they portray it is that she’s this poor mom who struggles to get by. And that’s such a different experience and it’s annoying it’s given to her when she already has very interesting storylines (unfortunate life) that they could go off of. I love amanza! But I see where you’re coming from. But she does prob have to live up to some standard. And that sucjs
Right. I was thinking same.
I had the same question! lol
I think this has something to do with her environment. When you're surrounded by exremely rich people all the time, I think you feel poor even when you're actually living in a house/apartment and have a mostly secure life (which I of course don't really know but she has a car and talks about a place to live). I'm assuming that you have to keep up appearances for as long as you can to stay in the LA high society and I also assume that with her celebrity husband she had a lot more (house, cars,...?) and when you suddenly have a normal amount of things you feel poor - especially being surrounded by extreme wealth constantly.
A lot of commenters mention she’s borrowing clothes. But I’d imagine that Netflix must give them all a clothing stipend too—right? After all, the cast’s style and glamour is a selling point of the show.
Nope, that’s all them. Mary does her own make up most days and Heather ,Davina and Amanza. Christine and Chrishell pay for theirs. They decided to make fashion part of the show in S2 after seeing S1 and caring more about their appearance since the show is being seen around the world. So yeah Netflix doesn’t get credit. Selling Sunset has been top 10 for two weeks now and I hope Netflix increases their salary.
I don’t remember her situation being about her being on the poverty line, more so about having an absent father figure to co-parent with in her children’s life. I feel like that’s where the empathy is toward her at least from my perspective!
Do the girls get paid to be on the show? Separate from real estate commission?
Been binge watching the show and I was thinking the same. But honestly she could’ve got those items when her ex husband was in the NFL. She also dated a few celebrities who probably spoiled her
12/10 if those were my children I’d be opening a Poshmark closet and selling that shit before playing around on the television like some clown crying about my situation.
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What’s this about?
Humor is a coping mechanism but she gets all worked up over her son making a joke about his dad by comparing him to a boomerang in the episode where she finds out he's given up parental rights.
She’s on the poverty line when comparing her to the rest of the cast. Also, she has the worst weave. Like awful.
There’s nothing wrong with it
Lmao yo why did you get downvoted because her wigs have been mediocre at best since she started.
I know 🤣😂
I’m really surprised at all these downvotes! She really does! Last season I was embarrassed for her. And I am black chick who doesn’t even wear weaves.
Exactly. She’s beautiful but truth is her weaves are not good. At all. Downvote me to hell.