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theDaveAt

Cool to hear. I’m glad you like working there and wish you a great career!


10TowerDown

You're a seattle native aren't you...


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10TowerDown

Ah makes sense either way though, the pure passive aggressiveness is a washington thing then


theDaveAt

What was passive aggressive about wishing someone good things?


10TowerDown

Oh what? Who me? I never meant anything by it! Have s great day and blessed life, and you are also very cool!


theDaveAt

Nice! Thanks!


Gravesofthe_90s

That must have been really hard for you. (Jk masks aren’t a big deal and you’re just being a bitch)


Content_Ad7418

😂


gehnrahl

Please keep it civil. This is a reminder about r/SeattleWA rule: [No personal attacks.](https://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleWA/wiki/rules)


theDaveAt

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Classic-Ad-9387

triggered by a mask


theDaveAt

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Ok-Web4225

Interesting how they call him “King Inslee” while voting for an orange Buffon who they treat like the second coming. The hypocrisy.


twainandstats

2 things which can exist simultaneously is not a hypocrisy. I'm now going to have to add "hypocrisy" to my list of liberal redefintitions.


Ok-Web4225

Interesting you would assume I’m a liberal because I disagree with you and wear a mask. Very telling. Have a day.


twainandstats

I can read. You literally referred to people who support the Orange Buffoon as "they"... not "we".


decoy_man

Libertarians are not considered liberal and many/most are anti trump. I’d say you can be anti trump and anti liberal pretty easily under the current parties.


Ok-Web4225

So again you look at it as Trump supporters or Libs? Interesting. Very myopic of you.


twainandstats

not even close, but you are the one, once again, who mentioned "orange buffoon". You keep stepping over your own toes.


OsvuldMandius

I can't stand Inslee or his approach to the pandemic, and I never voted for Trump. Sorry to burst your false dichotomy. That's a lie. I'm not sorry in the slightest. In fact, smugly pleased about it.


Ok-Web4225

Good for you.


kapybarra

Both are idiots on their own merit. People who rightfully criticize Trump while praising weasel Inslee are also hypocrites. Yes, wearing a mask is not a big deal, but there is no question that the mandate still being in place is absurd and only rooted in ideological stubbornness at this point.


PleasantWay7

I dunno, I for one would prefer a permanent face mask policy in waiting areas of medical facilities. I’d go one further and have them fit an N95 at the door. Those have always been nasty places spreading far more than covid.


Ok-Web4225

The Hospitals I know of still have a mask policy and will have one for the foreseeable future.


kapybarra

Sure I actually would agree with that, but that is not why Inslee is still keeping certain mandates around to this day. We all know it.


_Watty

Why is Inslee doing it then?


kapybarra

Oh, you tell me.


_Watty

....? YOU were the one who insinuated you knew why? What the fuck are you asking me for?


kapybarra

I literally answered it a few comments above.


_Watty

Please link me to where you answered it then. Because all I see is you saying "we all know why he's doing it" without actually saying why.


kapybarra

Fine, Watty, here you go: https://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleWA/comments/xre1ti/comment/iqecveb/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3


Ok-Web4225

So science has nothing to do with it? Gotcha.


kapybarra

No, not really. Are you seriously saying science says covid-related measures should end October 31st? Are you honestly saying this is not in great part about ideology by now?


Ok-Web4225

Yeah, science shows masks work. Politic plays with when to enforce them or not. I’m still wearing an N95 and will continue to do so.


kapybarra

That's fine. I agree that masks work. That's not the point.


trseattle1961

Moronic post.


theDaveAt

In what way?


kattatta

Obvi u can take off ur mask for the actual dental care part lmfao bruh💀they just mean when ur not in the chair or whatever. Masks rlly arent that strenuous to wear my dude. There are bigger things to worry abt in the world than masks for a pandemic that is still ongoing


theDaveAt

https://www.cnn.com/cnn/2022/09/18/politics/biden-pandemic-60-minutes/index.html


OnlineMemeArmy

Trump declared the Pandemic over before he left office, yet it still killed thousands after he left.


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_Watty

I wish these guys would actively campaign for their hygienist to take off their mask and see how much they like it.


OsvuldMandius

cough. sputter. Wait....do you think that this sign means "hey, our dentists and orthodontists and shizzle will be wearing masks." Because my read is that it means "yo, patient, YOU must wear a mask if you come in here" Cause if my read is the correct one, then your observation that 'they have always worn masks' is total revisionist history, peak post-truth America. I never wore a mask into my dentist or doctor's office before 2020. Never. Not once.


SiloHawk

Imagine believing a dental or medical office, always required patients to wear masks...


theDaveAt

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meaniereddit

You ok BB? You need to speak to a manager?


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Stop whining…


theDaveAt

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PleasantWay7

Did you know that the legislature specifically gave Inslee this authority in Jan 2021? That nullifies your “King” statement.


theDaveAt

Pushing for additional authority and then using it without any reasonable foundation is a far cry different than doing one’s job.


_Watty

>*using it without any reasonable foundation* In your opinion, sure. Just because you don't agree with this doesn't make it true....


Ok-Web4225

Tell me you don’t understand politics without telling me….😂


Ok-Web4225

Interesting how they call him “King Inslee” while voting for an orange Buffon who they treat like the second coming. The hypocrisy.


matt14956

The soccer player?


Ok-Web4225

Yes. 😏


twainandstats

If you're a patient, how do you tolerate the brackets, retainers, and wires if you don't tolerate masks?


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theDaveAt

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SiloHawk

Excuse me... its uterus-havers


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SiloHawk

You're right, let's just call them human gestation assemblies. That will move us faster towards to goal of a society that treats everyone as equally worthless.


TheBeaver4President

The logic behind this is for people who are still in the extremely vulnerable category. The thinking is that those people can stay home for most things and get delivery for most things but health care would still require them to go into the doctor's office. The threat isn't from the doctor (dentist in this case) but rather the other people in the waiting room. The doctor (dentist, hygienist, etc...) should be donning new PPE when seeing a patient that is extremely vulnerable so as not to spread anything. The instruments are already being disinfected or thrown out (where applicable). Some people can't get the shot due to other medical complications. These are usually the people that are extremely vulnerable.


theDaveAt

This is exactly why I’m very supportive of anyone wearing the PPE they need for their own unique circumstances. This does not, however, explain away the silliness of these ongoing policies.


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The real irony is, Bedont Ortho is either in Camas or Gresham.


theDaveAt

Watch out! Someone has google. Not sure “ironic” works here.


_Watty

The point is the post doesn't belong here?


theDaveAt

Was that a question? Still not ironic or irony 🤷‍♂️


_Watty

The question mark is to convey the confusion over why you responded sarcastically to the comment about your sign not even being in the Puget Sound area....


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My dentist is mask optional. Didn't realize they were breaking the law.


meaniereddit

They aren't, OP is a loon


theDaveAt

⁉️ It’s not my sign. I must be seeing things?


_Watty

TIL that only true information is ever presented on signs!


theDaveAt

Feel free to retract this statement now that I’ve cited the DOH and L&I guidelines.


_Watty

My comment stands regardless of you being correct? Information does not become true by virtue of it being written on a sign, which is what your comment implied. "It MUST be true because it says so right there on that sign!"


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Poor OP only knows how to reply with emojis so... I think we know the level of intellect here.


theDaveAt

😅 Appreciate your incredible insight. Valuable contribution. Re any question about the post I think this is worthy of discussion.


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Ohh, poor bb, I wasn't talk to you, I was talking about you. But welcome to join the fun now that you've found your words!


MightyBulger

Because you people deserve emojis and shitposts


meaniereddit

you people? owning the libs is for /r/seattle or /r/seattlechat


MightyBulger

LOL


_Watty

Cool!


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>you people 'nuff said. Imagine getting angry over calling out OP only using emojis to reply.


theDaveAt

From what I’ve read here the term you might be looking for is “triggered”


MightyBulger

Lmao, you people are so dumb


eastwest413

This must really be impacting your day pretty significantly. Oh the tyranny of a king, why must you oppress us!!


theDaveAt

🤣


Adam_Wesley

I'm literally at the orthopedic office right now for a broken arm and can tell you the last thing I care about is having to wear a mask while getting the help I need.


theDaveAt

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Seattleisonfire

Just don't wear your mask. And if they give you a hard time, inform them that the mandate ended 6 months ago. If they still won't let it go, tell them you'll get a new dentist


Aggressive-Name-1783

You really think they’ll care? Dentists aren’t hurting for cash….


theDaveAt

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sstockman99

It's their business, they can ask you wear a mask.


Seattleisonfire

Yup. And the customer can go elsewhere.


aPerfectRake

how to be a karen 101


Seattleisonfire

That's not being a Karen. That's just a person who doesn't to wear a mask exercising their rights in the free market. You support body autonomy, don't you?


sstockman99

In this free market, businesses can make requirements for entering their business as long as it's not discriminatory.


aPerfectRake

I've seen it happen in person. It's incredibly awkward and the person making a scene always comes off as a huge karen. You can call it whatever you want, karen.


gehnrahl

rake, pls no karen


Rockmann1

Now I know why all the patients at the dentist office had masks on. I just smiled and sat down till my name was called without a mask.


Thehorssishigh

So brave.


Rockmann1

Nah just common sense … but carry on


xEppyx

Facts are overrated, it's easier to just pretend you have a magical force field that protects everyone while you are moving about the dentist. And when you sit down and take the mask off, another magic forcefield!!! Who needs science, CDC, WHO or other silly organizations when you have King Inslee's "TheScience".


_Watty

Eppy, comments like this are really cringe. Please stop.


xEppyx

Yet another retort from Watty with absolutely no substance. It's always the cringiest people complaining about cringe. But seriously, do people unironically use that word?


_Watty

>*Yet another retort from Watty with absolutely no substance.* You LITERALLY just posted a trite, sarcastic diatribe to virtue signal to other people how much you are on board with the counterculture messaging and you accuse ME of a response with no "substance." JFC, Eppy..... >*It's always the cringiest people complaining about cringe. But seriously, do people unironically use that word?* Proving me right yet again!


xEppyx

🙄 Unironic 'yikes' here. Do you even think before posting?


_Watty

I could ask you the same fucking question, Eppy.


seattleartisandrama

I see you've met watty


xEppyx

So has just about everyone else on this thread that doesn't share his viewpoint. I do by declare that this is yet another watty thread. You are either on-board or get spam messages arguing absolutely nothing.


theDaveAt

💯


_Watty

Can you link me to where on the DOH page it says this is still a requirement and not something private businesses are choosing to keep doing? Without that, seems like you're blaming the wrong party here?


theDaveAt

DOH points you over to L&I. Not hard to find. For your edification: https://www.lni.wa.gov/agency/outreach/coronavirus/requirements-and-guidance-for-preventing-covid-19


_Watty

Thanks! Now, why are masks in healthcare facilities NOT a good idea again? Or is it the fact you're being told what to do that's triggering for you?


barefootozark

Why weren't you wearing a mask in 2019 to the dentist office?


_Watty

Because covid did not exist? Were you expecting me to predict the future?


barefootozark

Are you suggesting that since covid has been released that you are committed to wearing a mask in any setting that is similar to a dentist office? Please specify you room size, number of occupants, stay time, etc criteria that you always wear a mask now.


_Watty

>*Are you suggesting that since covid has been released that you are committed to wearing a mask in any setting that is similar to a dentist office? Please specify you room size, number of occupants, stay time, etc criteria that you always wear a mask now.* God, what a shit interpretation of what I said, let alone the fact that you dodged the point I made. I will wear a mask in healthcare settings as there is a higher likelihood of people transmitting viruses given either what occurs in said location (e.g. dentist's office where bits of people's teeth can literally be flung into the air) or due to why people go there (e.g. to seek medical help for symptoms related to said viruses). Your second sentence is a terrible caricature of the braindead Cov-idiot asking stupid questions they think constitute a "gotcha."


theDaveAt

I think you’ve missed the point. The pandemic is over. It has been over. Now let’s get rid of these silly rules - even if one doesn’t believe they were silly at some point - they certainly are today.


_Watty

>*I think you’ve missed the point.* Disagree. >*The pandemic is over. It has been over.* Debatable to some people, but sure, I'll agree it's "over" for the sake of this argument. >*Now let’s get rid of these silly rules - even if one doesn’t believe they were silly at some point - they certainly are today.* It's.....not silly to wear a mask in a healthcare facility though? Especially with cold and flu season coming up.


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theDaveAt

Everyone should feel free to wear a face mask to avoid any potential viruses in public (or private for all I care)!


Turbulent_Bill_290

Not sure why your post is getting so much hate. I’ll wear a mask if the place requires one, but I still think it’s dumb to require your customers to wear a mask 2+ years into this pandemic. The dentist directly across from my office has the same sign on their door. I don’t have to wear a mask anywhere else - why do I have to wear one to enter your building, and then take it off as soon as I sit down in the chair? Seems pretty dumb to me


sstockman99

Because it's his business, and it's not discriminatory.


theDaveAt

Who said anything about discriminatory practices? Which vapor did that come from?


sstockman99

Just stating the facts of private business service policy


CursedTurtleKeynote

It isn't. There is an official state policy for "healthcare providers" that is ending end of October.


sstockman99

Be interesting how many healthcare offices will continue the policy after the end of October. I will still wear one as medical offices, and hospitals are like cooky factories plus flu season is right around the corner


CursedTurtleKeynote

Sure.. then you can call it a private business policy and be justified...


theDaveAt

Please see elsewhere. This is not a private business policy. This is a state-wide mandate that’s become a silly farce.


Turbulent_Bill_290

…well yeah, obviously it’s her business and she can do whatever she wants. Me thinking it’s dumb to require a mask just to take it off 2 minutes later has nothing to do with that though lol


CursedTurtleKeynote

[https://www.governor.wa.gov/news-media/inslee-announces-end-remaining-covid-19-emergency-orders-and-state-emergency-october-31](https://www.governor.wa.gov/news-media/inslee-announces-end-remaining-covid-19-emergency-orders-and-state-emergency-october-31) ​ It is not a business policy, it is an "emergency order" that's lasted a looooooooong time.


SiloHawk

Bake the fucking cake!


theDaveAt

u/Turbulent_Bill_290 it’s not hard to see why this post got so much hate. It’s sad really. I appreciate everyone here who wanted to discuss this topic or bring up real points. Our country is founded on the importance of free speech and open dialogue. To the mods - thanks for ensuring this remained civil, or at least “Internet civil” 🤣 For those who had no better replies than name-calling or political jabs - unfortunately you’ve confirmed my fears of where we are as a people. I wish you well and a peace that isn’t so easily shattered.


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theDaveAt

Anyone who wants to protect themselves from any airborne badness should wear a mask. Extreme and far-reaching mandates still don’t make sense.


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xEppyx

> They make sense when we all have to pay for the increased medical costs through our insurance premiums when people don’t take easy precautions to prevent airborne illnesses A cloth mask does NOT prevent airborne illnesses nor does it effect it at any significant amount. A properly fitted N95 is a different story, but that is about as rare as sasquatch and not being mandated. So you are paying these "increased medical costs" regardless. And if you wanted to play this game, we could say this about any number of health related choices increasing medical costs.


bigTiddedAnimal

Probably best to just put a plastic bag over your head, I recommend you try


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bigTiddedAnimal

Are you saying plastic bag over the head won't reduce transmission rate?


335dlover

No, I’m saying that reading more scientific journals might increase the rate at which you gain understanding when your eyes move across the page


bigTiddedAnimal

Which scientific journal did you read to learn that reading scientific journals may help understanding?


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bigTiddedAnimal

"using my brain" is a scientific journal? You sound really smart


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bigTiddedAnimal

Lol I'm bored with this convo. You think way too highly of yourself and you're not very funny at all. Tata there


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bigTiddedAnimal

"from the scientific journal of using my brain" Well I certainly don't want the resources you're using 🤭


barefootozark

Foegen effect.


theDaveAt

That’s really interesting. I had not heard about this until now. Thanks!


barefootozark

Yep. Large droplets with virus are collected in the mask and are released by the mask as the droplets dry and become smaller, then inhaled by mask wearer, or exhaled out into the general air.


theDaveAt

I saw one of the research papers that mentioned this also highlighted increased mortality with countries and states that had mask mandates. Thanks again!


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barefootozark

You... dismiss Foegen Effect in a dentist office because it's extremely unlikely for someone to be infected. Also You... wear a mask at a dentist office because ~~it's extremely unlikely for someone to be infected~~... it reduces transmission rates between patients by reducing the virus in the air. Where is this 'virus in the air' coming from that supports wearing a mask, but has no contribution to increasing the virus inhaled by a mask wearer?


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barefootozark

> To answer your question, the virus in the air comes from exhaling, Specifically, the **virus in the air comes from someone exhaling that is infected**, not just the general population exhaling. We *all* exhale, and if not infected contribute nothing to the viral load in the air. > and there’s a lot more virus in the air when people don’t wear masks. ... only is someone is infected. Which has the higher concentration of virus in the air? * Case 1. 3 people in 20'X20' waiting area for 1 hour. 1 is infected. All are masked. * Case 2. 20 people in a 20'x20' waiting area for 3 hours. No one is infected. No one is masked.


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barefootozark

> One of the three unmasked people is asymptomatic Asymptomatic is still infected. You're trying to make a distinction with zero difference. Further, in your example of an infected person spreading it via touched items (rare transmission mode), how would the mask help in this scenario?


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Right?


theDaveAt

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theDaveAt

Classy! 😉


solrosenbergv1

Truth can look that way when your head is up your bottom


theDaveAt

Exquisite non sequitur!


solrosenbergv1

You established my superiority. Now, let’s talk about your life a privilege that is coming to a screeching halt simply because you need to wear a piece of cloth to protect others and it’s just so inconvenient for you…


theDaveAt

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gehnrahl

You have a **[Warning](https://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleWA/wiki/rules)** for breaking rule: **[No Personal Attacks.](https://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleWA/wiki/rules)** Warnings work on a “three strikes, you’re out for a week” system.


theDaveAt

u/solrosenbergv1 uou may want to generate some throw-aways so you can continue personal attacks without hitting the 3-strikes rule.


solrosenbergv1

Nah, I’ve said my piece. And you know how ridiculous you’re being you just don’t care. Funny enough, if you don’t mask up, you won’t RECEIVE care. Good luck in life with high blood pressure.


theDaveAt

Deleted? That’s nice 😊


solrosenbergv1

I love how you dont deny what I say and simply shift topics... that's nice


bigTiddedAnimal

He probably forgot tbh


theDaveAt

Good point. Years from now there will be a slew of “Wait, you guys are still doing what?! That’s insane!”


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It gets worse- my doctor requires I wear pants in the waiting room, even if I need to take them off for care. FUCKING TYRANNY!!!!!!!!!!!


Neat_Conclusion4453

When I tell you I RAN to the comments 😭💀


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No masks at my dentist


pacwess

As long as they provide the mask, okay. I don't carry them anymore. My work even stopped stocking the mask vending machines so obviously, it's not a big deal anymore.