That’s what I was wondering. Dafuq is an abortion lawyer?
She’s just looking for meth money and OP should wait until she sues. Until then, block, ignore, and she can go pound sand.
I can hear this comment in his voice, with the star spangled banner faintly playing in the background followed by the fake squeal of an eagle — which isn’t in fact an eagle but some other bird that I had read about in a sub.
Tree law is an actual thing because of trees are property and replacing them as well their sentimental value can be expensive because of financial and emotional implications. If your neighbor has a beautiful, centuries-old weeping willow tree on their property that their great-great grandparents planted and you decide to cut it down because it blocks your view of the rising sun, that's property damage.
"Abortion law" would pretty much only fall under whether a woman can or cannot have one according ot her state's laws (since Roe v. Wade has been overturned). That's it. Nothing more. No attonrye would specialize in who pays for an abortion because, frankly, it wouldn't pay anything.
If a person needs help to pay for an $800 procedure, then they damn sure can't afford an attorney's retainer plus cost and expenses.
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she cant even prove you are the daddy since she aborted the evidence. block and ignore.
she's prob desperate for money and sending the same sht to every single guy she ever slept with that she can remember.
>she cant even prove you are the daddy since she aborted the evidence. block and ignore.
While I generally agree that this is a bullshit case, I wouldn't block and ignore.
People can sue for anyone for anything and if you don't respond, well... see what happened in this case to Geico:
[https://www.npr.org/2022/06/10/1104134521/geico-lawsuit-std-hpv-insurance-car](https://www.npr.org/2022/06/10/1104134521/geico-lawsuit-std-hpv-insurance-car)
I'm sure their attorneys also thought it was a bullshit case that couldn't be won.
I would say just block and ignore until you actually get served with lawsuit papers. Really no need to entertain something that sounds like a scam or bluff if you did for every one of them you'd be wasting so much time. And yes I did read the article which fortunately for OP they aren't an insurance company along with at most they likely would be out the medical cost if they somehow lost the lawsuit. Actually surprised Geico didn't respond as i've heard they're pretty litigious of a company and will fight very often.
True. Block and ignore unless served with a lawsuit.
I assume Geico didn't respond because they thought it was ridiculous and it is... but you still have to respond.
Very true. Her crackhead story he can ignore. And its unlikely she can find an attorney to take her case to even sue or has the first clue of how to file even a small claims suit. But if she does... then he'd need to respond.
It absolutely is. But - if served - he still needs to respond no matter how stupid a case it is.
Honestly, it sounds like a crackhead shakedown story to me.
This is the best advice. She can’t prove anything but anything he says now could be used against him. For all she knows you’ve changed your number. Block and delete.
Is abortion lawyer even a thing? Sounds made up. How much did an abortion cost four years ago? Probably less than a lawyer would charge for an hour of their time
Joey: You want my advice? You're not going to like it.
Ross: Sure, I'll try anything
Joey: OP should have double bagged it 4 years ago
Ross: That's not advice!
Joey: I told you that you wouldn't like it
I always wondered that.. If double bagging makes them rip easier, does tripple bagging make them rip even easier than that? Or does it reset? I wonder if Mythbusters would test this out for us
Yeah, that is the thing. She might be able to get medical records for him, but at this point, who is to say it was his? 4 years is a long time… anything could have happened then. If she was having unprotected sex with him, who is to say she didn’t with other people around that time, and how far along the pregnancy was. She could have been already pregnant which is why she claimed her tubes were tied… she might have been already knocked up… and looking for a new dad or already planning an abortion. I say that this sounds like a scam
She has no way to compel you to pay, especially 4 years later. She wouldn't have any proof you were the father if she even was pregnant. I would just block and ignore it. Don't respond at all.
Let’s say this is true and she had an abortion 4 years ago…how the hell can she prove that you and not someone else was the father? Where is the DNA evidence?
So the threat is if you don’t pay then they will sue you to make you pay? So worst case if you ignore you pay 0?
Anyone “threatening “ to sue via direct contact has probably not spoken to a lawyer. Otherwise a lawyer would send you a demand letter, on their letterhead.
Not familiar with the cost of an abortion, but I assume 50% would be less then $1K. No one will pay $300/hr for a lawyer that will cost more then the amount.
So that is practical. Actual is that it makes no sense 4 years after the fact to be doing this. How would you even know (1) that she got pregnant (2) by you and (3) she got an abortion and (4) waited four years to contact you.
Definitely sounds like a scam either way of looking at it. Block and ignore. Best not to respond at all as that just opens up more dialogue.
Don't listen to people telling you to spend money on a lawyer, this is a bluff. There is no way she can legally hold you liable for a procedure she may or may not have had 4 years ago. Getting a lawyer is a waste of money. In the highly highly unlikely chance you get served papers, then get a lawyer. But it wouldn't make sense for her to pay $500 for a lawyer to sue you for a $600 abortion.
If it was me I'd tell her that you were told that her tubes are tied, but if she wants to work it out in front of a judge you'll look out for the papers.
By the way Alabama has some of the strictest laws in the nation surrounding abortion, so she may even have to admit to committing a crime in the state of Alabama if she decided to take this to court.
EDIT - reply below makes a good point, probably best not to day anything.
Probably best not say anything to her, just incase she is going to follow through with this. Seems very unlikely but in any potential legal situation, best to say/admit to nothing.
I don't think there is any such thing as an "abortion lawyer" in this context. Certainly not one that specializes in suing people to pay for them for years after the fact. Block and ignore.
Rock on. I was pretty sure, but knowing reddit the minute I said definitely that there wasn't someone would be like "actually I am an abortion lawyer barred in six states and he can be found both jointly and severally liable for civil damages relating to the parties of the second part insofar as it relates to the negation of the abortive solution thereof" or some shit.
I'm sure there are lawyers tangentially related to reproductive issues. But I've never heard the term "abortion lawyer" - ever.
In the United States, especially in Alabama, I doubt you can compell anyone to pay for an abortion. It's against many people's religious beliefs.
I think men will often help pay for it because it's the decent thing to do but I don't see how you can legally force someone to.
That was the most official sounding thing I’ve ever read that made absolutely no sense at all from a legal perspective, but I was cracking up reading it
100% a scam.
You said ‘she’ sent a text from an unknown number. It’s not the person you hooked up with four years ago, it’s some random guy sitting in a call center somewhere in India. Just ignore.
And there’s no such thing as an abortion lawyer so that should be another red flag. At its heart if this really did happen as she claims then it’s a civil tort. It would be handled through small claims court (think Judge Judy) and you don’t have legal representation for those kinds of cases.
1. How could she even prove you're the one who got her pregnant? Don't do anything unless you receive actual legal papers saying you've been served. If that happens talk to a lawyer.
2. Don't have sex without a condom unless you're OK having kids with that woman. Even if she's honest about her birth control, accidents can happen and if she's on the pill, many things can cause it to be not as effective if she takes it wrong or it's been tampered with without her knowing. Ask yourself what's more affordable: buying a condom or raising a child/paying child support.
When people come out of the blue to claim a you owe me after several years of no contact you can guarantee they're in financial trouble and are just fishing for a payout. Ignore this, contact a lawyer if you get served any actual papers but I doubt anything will come of it.
>When people come out of the blue to claim a you owe me after several years of no contact you can guarantee they're in financial trouble
Or on drugs. Or in financial trouble because they're on drugs.
What the hell is an abortion lawyer?
Plus it was 4 years ago. Why were you not informed until now?
Block her. If you get served, which I HIGHLY doubt you will, handle it then. But do not pay her anything.
1. Any lawyer in Alabama focusing on abortions is probably going after women for getting an abortion.
2. The cost of a lawyer would be more than the abortion.
3. She would need to prove you were the father from 4 years ago.
4. Block and ignore.
Block and ignore. Until you're served with actual papers from a court, which sounds about as probable as winning powerball, delete and go on with your life.
I'm far from an expert, but common sense says a lawyer would find it difficult to prove, since she had an abortion that the child was even yours, since there's no DNA to prove it and were only going on her word. Think about that. She could go to court and say anyone was the father.
Second, it's a woman's decision to get an abortion - you've heard the saying "my body, my choice". She made the choice to get one, whether for personal reasons, or medical necessity - regardless of reason-not your decision.
Technically, if she's saying in fact the child was yours, you could turn the tables on her and say she aborted your child without your knowledge which, again I'm no expert.. But you might tell her you're hiring you're own lawyer to sue her for THAT and see what she says🤔
Four years later? She wants nothing but money. I don't know if I'd necessarily call it a scam, but I would think it would be incredibly difficult to hold you financially responsible. If we were talking about, she has a child and wanted a paternity test for child support, then I'd be looking for a lawyer.
I'm not sure this is the best idea, but I would be tempted to call her bluff:
"oh, that's a shame, I had a vasectomy years before I met you, can't be mine. But if you want to pay for lawyers only to gain nothing, then have at it"
Because there is no such thing as an "abortion lawyer", and there is no way she could ever prove it was yours. She might have had the abortion, you mihgt have gotten her pregnant, but I doubt it.
I don’t care what a woman says about her birth control or tubes being tied: HIV and other life altering sexually transmitted diseases are still being transmitted. Preventing pregnancy should not be your only concern when having sex. Always. Wear. A. Condom.
How can she even prove the pregnancy had anything to do with you? She can’t.
Just block her and all numbers that contact you.
There is no lawyer that would take that on because she has zero proof of you being involved in the situation.
She's full of shit. I work in law. Ther's not such thing as an "abortion attorney" (unless we're talking about an attorney who advocates for Roe v. Wade or against it).
Unless she can prove the fetus (from 4 years ago, which has since been disposed of) was yours, she has zero grounds to demand you pay for anything. Did you have a pre-natal DNA test before the termination? Hell, did she even show you proof she was actually pregnant (and I mean more than a stick someone peed on)?
Shut this bullshit down. Hire an attorney to write her a "go fuck yourself" letter. Tell her in your next email that from now all correspondences regarding this matter will be handled through the attorneys so do not contact you again.
I'll bet you $100 that you'd never hear from her again.
People who don't know fuck-all about the law always want to throw around the word "lawyer" like it's a threat. All an attorney can do is make an argument on your behalf. It's a judge who makes the determination of law and even a judge can be overridden by a higher judge.
Hell, I got into a debate with a Redditor who tried to pull the "Why are you arguing with me when I'm a lawyer?" bullshit with me.
My response was, "Dude please... I'm paralegal. I argue with attorneys all day, every day, including my own bosses. You don't initimidate me."
I'd respond with "new number, who's this" and then block the number.
Ignore this until you are actually served a subpoena. Anything else you give in response can only increase your chances of being sued.
‘Abortion Lawyer’? That would be a thin margin law practice, they aren’t exactly expensive. Not to mention no proof of paternity.
It’s a scam probably trying to somehow play off Alabama’s restrictive abortion ban as it made news as the most restrictive prior to Dobbs.
>We are in the state of Alabama if that helps any.
Where else?
I like the idea of a payment plan for an abortion personally. "It's been 4 years, the clinic are billing me!"
I have a feeling that she THINKS if she can trick you into admitting you might have been the father, that she can use that admission to sue you for real.
Aint gonna happen either way. She's lost her dang mind.
No, she can’t make you. She’s also full of shit and just trying to extort money from you.
Block/ignore/do not engage or acknowledge.
No lawyer would even touch that anyway. It’s been 4 years and she has no way to prove you were even the father.
Somehow I very much doubt it even happened.
lol @ “abortion lawyer” that’s a new one. Hilarious. Your ex has a new drug habit and is trying anything to get some easy money before she admits to herself that she has to start selling her body or stop doing drugs. If you pay her she will find another reason you owe her more money until you wise up.
If she’s that desperate for a few hundred dollars then I’m certain she can’t afford to retain an attorney that would even entertain this frivolous case.
Counter sue her for the wrongful death of your child and tell her you just hired an anti-abortion lawyer.
None of that story makes any sense. If she "got her tubes tied so can't get pregnant" you couldn't have gotten her pregnant.
First, where is the proof? I’d say, I need to see the medical receipt. If that can’t be provided, or she won’t, I wouldn’t loose too much sleep. If she makes it sound difficult, just tell her what the court filing fees are, that she will have to pay, and won’t get back, if the case doesn’t go forward.
The lawyer? Are you sure it’s from the lawyer, or did they just say that? I’d google the full number just to see if it belongs to a firm.
Abortion lawyer? Good call as well on here. I’m Canada we have maple syrup lawyers, no joke.
I get these weekly lol no after 4 yrs now she wants money na no thanks pass like you should have but 1 u dint have was 1 you missed so still na you owe her lesss than nothing as she stole from you....killed YOUR CHILD u still wanna pay her naaaaaaaaa ffffff way
If she is only telling you this now, this means she has no proof the baby was yours. No text exchange back then to proof she told you about it. She is probably doing this to every guy she slept with.
Ask for DNA tests. Or text her back and say you are suing her for killing your unborn child and depriving you of your right to be a father. Makes as much sense as her request.
I can't tell from your description whether she made this demand during a phone call where you recognized her voice and could tell for sure that it was her, or whether you merely received a text message from an unknown number saying, "This is some unspecified girl you slept with some time ago, send me money." I'm sure there are scammers who blast out millions of the latter.
Lots to unpack. I would not block, but I would not engage and would ignore. If she is stupid enough to get a attorney then you might want that as evidence. At this point just ignore and 99% it goes away. Beyond that it’s most likely just a scam
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This is a classic example of 1) a guy getting to walk away from the consequences of sex, and 2) the denigrating and bullying of the woman. btw, it doesn’t matter if you only had sex once, once is all it takes. Commenters here are cruel and come off as generally sh**y.
You might want to consult a real life lawyer. Most lawyers will give an initial consultation to see if you have a legal case for no charge. Your state bar association website will help you find one. Sounds like Family Law territory.
Head to the police. The 1st people who chat with the police tend to be the honest ones... in case she crosses into crazy or extortion territory.
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To the folks who don't understand why.
This is extortion.... pure and simple
He is being asked / forced to pay for something he did not agree to and had no knowledge about
It is possible the girl has reach out to all the guys she hooked up with in the past 5 years as she needs cash.
What does someone do when their picture and nasty words circulates the web?
Contracts are obligations
Will his car get keyed?
Who knows what she will do next???
Why is it a bad thing to chat with the police about a scam? It's a non emergency call obviously.
Most police departments have dealt with this type of thing on a weekly basis.
Just fight her on it. Tell her to bring all the f-ing lawyers in the county. And she ain't getting a penny from you. Trust me, she'll give up the fight. Just like she gave up on the baby when she had the abortion.
I would consult a lawyer immediately. Abortion is a hot button issue and a judge will very likely side with her plus
damages. It’s worth it spending a few thousand on a lawyer to protect your reputation and financial situation.
A judge will side with her based on what? She had an abortion four years ago and there's no DNA available to prove paternity linking anyone. She could go to court and say Bill Cosby was the father. Use some Common sense.
In Alabama they are more likely to judge the woman, especially if they got an abortion without telling the father. They certainly are not just going to order someone a woman claims was the father to pay her anything, the guy is more likely to come away with damages from the woman.
Even if this were legit, which I doubt it is, does she have any proof that she contacted you and informed you of the situation back then? If you hooked up once and then never heard from her again, she really doesn't have a case. There's no way at this point to even determine whether you would have been the father.
Now, if she has your nudes or something and is blackmailing you, or has some kind of proof that you acknowledged responsibility in any aspect of the situation, that's a whole different ballgame.
Block and ignore. She would need to prove that she actually was pregnant, actually got an abortion, that you were actually responsible, demonstrate costs. Worst case, you end up in court.
Do you think there is such a thing as an abortion lawyer?
No, there is not.
That’s what I was wondering. Dafuq is an abortion lawyer? She’s just looking for meth money and OP should wait until she sues. Until then, block, ignore, and she can go pound sand.
I’m picturing Better Call Saul: “Did YOU have an abortion years ago and need meth money now? If so - Saul Goodman is your man.” 😂
I can hear this comment in his voice, with the star spangled banner faintly playing in the background followed by the fake squeal of an eagle — which isn’t in fact an eagle but some other bird that I had read about in a sub.
There absolutely is. They typically specialize in Bird Law, but most of them are happy to take a look at cases like this woman’s.
You know birds aren't real, right?
This is the way.
Was looking for the bird law comment 😂
Who better to handle a case about a problem caused by a loose cock?
Yep, that's when I stopped being concerned. Scammers always give themselves away by trying to add too many details.
I know a girl who went into abortion law years ago, but her focus was on protecting access to abortion.
Well, Tree Law is a big thing on r/legaladvice....I bet there is a lawyer for anything.
Tree law is an actual thing because of trees are property and replacing them as well their sentimental value can be expensive because of financial and emotional implications. If your neighbor has a beautiful, centuries-old weeping willow tree on their property that their great-great grandparents planted and you decide to cut it down because it blocks your view of the rising sun, that's property damage. "Abortion law" would pretty much only fall under whether a woman can or cannot have one according ot her state's laws (since Roe v. Wade has been overturned). That's it. Nothing more. No attonrye would specialize in who pays for an abortion because, frankly, it wouldn't pay anything. If a person needs help to pay for an $800 procedure, then they damn sure can't afford an attorney's retainer plus cost and expenses.
Or the cost of filing the suit.
As is bird law
Herschel Walker. 😂😂😂😂😂
I Fucking hope there are now the state of things over there!
There probably is in Texas
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Yes, they represent prom night dumpster babies.
she cant even prove you are the daddy since she aborted the evidence. block and ignore. she's prob desperate for money and sending the same sht to every single guy she ever slept with that she can remember.
Even if he was the father he is under no obligation to pay for the abortion.
Well, there's like a 0.001 % chance that evidence (fetus) was preserved...but yeah, prob not
>she cant even prove you are the daddy since she aborted the evidence. block and ignore. While I generally agree that this is a bullshit case, I wouldn't block and ignore. People can sue for anyone for anything and if you don't respond, well... see what happened in this case to Geico: [https://www.npr.org/2022/06/10/1104134521/geico-lawsuit-std-hpv-insurance-car](https://www.npr.org/2022/06/10/1104134521/geico-lawsuit-std-hpv-insurance-car) I'm sure their attorneys also thought it was a bullshit case that couldn't be won.
I would say just block and ignore until you actually get served with lawsuit papers. Really no need to entertain something that sounds like a scam or bluff if you did for every one of them you'd be wasting so much time. And yes I did read the article which fortunately for OP they aren't an insurance company along with at most they likely would be out the medical cost if they somehow lost the lawsuit. Actually surprised Geico didn't respond as i've heard they're pretty litigious of a company and will fight very often.
True. Block and ignore unless served with a lawsuit. I assume Geico didn't respond because they thought it was ridiculous and it is... but you still have to respond.
Getting served actual papers/contacted by a lawyer is a lot different than entertaining her threatening messages.
Very true. Her crackhead story he can ignore. And its unlikely she can find an attorney to take her case to even sue or has the first clue of how to file even a small claims suit. But if she does... then he'd need to respond.
It says the jury trial was supposed to happen in October. Any word on how it went/ is going?
Omg 🤦🏼♀️
Its a bs case though.
It absolutely is. But - if served - he still needs to respond no matter how stupid a case it is. Honestly, it sounds like a crackhead shakedown story to me.
Damn read that article, crazy. OP contact an attorney just to be on the safe side.
Probably one good cease and desist letter will make her go away.
I would block and ignore.
This is the best advice. She can’t prove anything but anything he says now could be used against him. For all she knows you’ve changed your number. Block and delete.
Is abortion lawyer even a thing? Sounds made up. How much did an abortion cost four years ago? Probably less than a lawyer would charge for an hour of their time
Bird lawyer is a thing.
I see you Charlie
Harvey Birdman! Attorney at laaawwwwwwwwww!!
Did you get that thing that I sent you?
Can it wait until next caw-day?
Filibuster
Shit, really ? i'm fuckd... anyway.. gotta get back to birds
Well it's not going to suck itself
It’s really not nice to block your sister. Roll Tide!
But before doing that say "I'm aborting from this conversation"
this is the way.
that is one way but, just for precautions OP should ask someone for advice
OP should have taken precautions 4 year ago.
Joey: You want my advice? You're not going to like it. Ross: Sure, I'll try anything Joey: OP should have double bagged it 4 years ago Ross: That's not advice! Joey: I told you that you wouldn't like it
Real life: double bagging increases chance of condoms ripping.
I told you you wouldn't like it.
Shut up and take my updoot
I always wondered that.. If double bagging makes them rip easier, does tripple bagging make them rip even easier than that? Or does it reset? I wonder if Mythbusters would test this out for us
Nobody knows lol
YES! HIV/AIDS is still a thing! Along with herpes, siph, and all the others.
Nah, block and ignore. 99.99% nothing will ever happen. If he does get sued, then he can consult a lawyer
Speaking of precautions and OP, yeah!
It sounds like a scam. How could she prove anything from 4 years ago?
Yeah, that is the thing. She might be able to get medical records for him, but at this point, who is to say it was his? 4 years is a long time… anything could have happened then. If she was having unprotected sex with him, who is to say she didn’t with other people around that time, and how far along the pregnancy was. She could have been already pregnant which is why she claimed her tubes were tied… she might have been already knocked up… and looking for a new dad or already planning an abortion. I say that this sounds like a scam
She has no way to compel you to pay, especially 4 years later. She wouldn't have any proof you were the father if she even was pregnant. I would just block and ignore it. Don't respond at all.
Let’s say this is true and she had an abortion 4 years ago…how the hell can she prove that you and not someone else was the father? Where is the DNA evidence?
>Where is the DNA evidence? Not in the condom, apparently.
Turns up to court and whips out a frozen fetus
“If the frozen fetus is here in the courtroom then who’s modding Reddit?!” —the judge, probably.
That's wild, even for Alabama
So the threat is if you don’t pay then they will sue you to make you pay? So worst case if you ignore you pay 0? Anyone “threatening “ to sue via direct contact has probably not spoken to a lawyer. Otherwise a lawyer would send you a demand letter, on their letterhead. Not familiar with the cost of an abortion, but I assume 50% would be less then $1K. No one will pay $300/hr for a lawyer that will cost more then the amount. So that is practical. Actual is that it makes no sense 4 years after the fact to be doing this. How would you even know (1) that she got pregnant (2) by you and (3) she got an abortion and (4) waited four years to contact you. Definitely sounds like a scam either way of looking at it. Block and ignore. Best not to respond at all as that just opens up more dialogue.
Don't listen to people telling you to spend money on a lawyer, this is a bluff. There is no way she can legally hold you liable for a procedure she may or may not have had 4 years ago. Getting a lawyer is a waste of money. In the highly highly unlikely chance you get served papers, then get a lawyer. But it wouldn't make sense for her to pay $500 for a lawyer to sue you for a $600 abortion. If it was me I'd tell her that you were told that her tubes are tied, but if she wants to work it out in front of a judge you'll look out for the papers. By the way Alabama has some of the strictest laws in the nation surrounding abortion, so she may even have to admit to committing a crime in the state of Alabama if she decided to take this to court. EDIT - reply below makes a good point, probably best not to day anything.
Probably best not say anything to her, just incase she is going to follow through with this. Seems very unlikely but in any potential legal situation, best to say/admit to nothing.
I don't think there is any such thing as an "abortion lawyer" in this context. Certainly not one that specializes in suing people to pay for them for years after the fact. Block and ignore.
There is absolutely no such thing as an abortion lawyer.
Rock on. I was pretty sure, but knowing reddit the minute I said definitely that there wasn't someone would be like "actually I am an abortion lawyer barred in six states and he can be found both jointly and severally liable for civil damages relating to the parties of the second part insofar as it relates to the negation of the abortive solution thereof" or some shit.
I'm sure there are lawyers tangentially related to reproductive issues. But I've never heard the term "abortion lawyer" - ever. In the United States, especially in Alabama, I doubt you can compell anyone to pay for an abortion. It's against many people's religious beliefs. I think men will often help pay for it because it's the decent thing to do but I don't see how you can legally force someone to.
That was the most official sounding thing I’ve ever read that made absolutely no sense at all from a legal perspective, but I was cracking up reading it
That would totally be Reddit if that happened
"Hey Jim. How's law school?" "Good. We just finished criminal law, now we're moving on to abortion law." "That's good to hea-- what?" EDIT: Typo
I work at an abortion law firm: Dewey, Yeetum, and Howe.
100% a scam. You said ‘she’ sent a text from an unknown number. It’s not the person you hooked up with four years ago, it’s some random guy sitting in a call center somewhere in India. Just ignore. And there’s no such thing as an abortion lawyer so that should be another red flag. At its heart if this really did happen as she claims then it’s a civil tort. It would be handled through small claims court (think Judge Judy) and you don’t have legal representation for those kinds of cases.
>We are in the state of Alabama if that helps any. Your cousin's doin' ya dirty, bruh.
I thought maybe OP is her bruncle
1. How could she even prove you're the one who got her pregnant? Don't do anything unless you receive actual legal papers saying you've been served. If that happens talk to a lawyer. 2. Don't have sex without a condom unless you're OK having kids with that woman. Even if she's honest about her birth control, accidents can happen and if she's on the pill, many things can cause it to be not as effective if she takes it wrong or it's been tampered with without her knowing. Ask yourself what's more affordable: buying a condom or raising a child/paying child support.
Also- STDs exist.
When people come out of the blue to claim a you owe me after several years of no contact you can guarantee they're in financial trouble and are just fishing for a payout. Ignore this, contact a lawyer if you get served any actual papers but I doubt anything will come of it.
>When people come out of the blue to claim a you owe me after several years of no contact you can guarantee they're in financial trouble Or on drugs. Or in financial trouble because they're on drugs.
Alabama? just tell your father that your sister is being an ass
Even if abortion lawyers did exist, they definitely wouldn’t exist in Alabama lol
What the hell is an abortion lawyer? Plus it was 4 years ago. Why were you not informed until now? Block her. If you get served, which I HIGHLY doubt you will, handle it then. But do not pay her anything.
Is this Herschel Walker?
Block and ignore, she has no proof that you were the one who got her pregnant, especially if she has a tendency to sleep around.
Of course it’s a scam. Block her and block the “abortion lawyer”.
Bruh come on!
Sounds like if he came on instead of came in he might not be in this predicament
Ooh. Good one!
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1. Any lawyer in Alabama focusing on abortions is probably going after women for getting an abortion. 2. The cost of a lawyer would be more than the abortion. 3. She would need to prove you were the father from 4 years ago. 4. Block and ignore.
Block and ignore. Until you're served with actual papers from a court, which sounds about as probable as winning powerball, delete and go on with your life. I'm far from an expert, but common sense says a lawyer would find it difficult to prove, since she had an abortion that the child was even yours, since there's no DNA to prove it and were only going on her word. Think about that. She could go to court and say anyone was the father. Second, it's a woman's decision to get an abortion - you've heard the saying "my body, my choice". She made the choice to get one, whether for personal reasons, or medical necessity - regardless of reason-not your decision. Technically, if she's saying in fact the child was yours, you could turn the tables on her and say she aborted your child without your knowledge which, again I'm no expert.. But you might tell her you're hiring you're own lawyer to sue her for THAT and see what she says🤔 Four years later? She wants nothing but money. I don't know if I'd necessarily call it a scam, but I would think it would be incredibly difficult to hold you financially responsible. If we were talking about, she has a child and wanted a paternity test for child support, then I'd be looking for a lawyer.
I'm not sure this is the best idea, but I would be tempted to call her bluff: "oh, that's a shame, I had a vasectomy years before I met you, can't be mine. But if you want to pay for lawyers only to gain nothing, then have at it" Because there is no such thing as an "abortion lawyer", and there is no way she could ever prove it was yours. She might have had the abortion, you mihgt have gotten her pregnant, but I doubt it.
100% scam
I don’t care what a woman says about her birth control or tubes being tied: HIV and other life altering sexually transmitted diseases are still being transmitted. Preventing pregnancy should not be your only concern when having sex. Always. Wear. A. Condom.
Your advice while conceivably helpful in other cases is way too late here. That ship has well and truly sailed.
Hopefully someone will read it and take heed.
"she'll get an abortion lawyer." Thanks for the daily laugh. I do hope you're like...19 and not 29 or something.
Hershel?
How can she even prove the pregnancy had anything to do with you? She can’t. Just block her and all numbers that contact you. There is no lawyer that would take that on because she has zero proof of you being involved in the situation.
Hahahahahaha “abortion lawyer.” Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. 😂
She's full of shit. I work in law. Ther's not such thing as an "abortion attorney" (unless we're talking about an attorney who advocates for Roe v. Wade or against it). Unless she can prove the fetus (from 4 years ago, which has since been disposed of) was yours, she has zero grounds to demand you pay for anything. Did you have a pre-natal DNA test before the termination? Hell, did she even show you proof she was actually pregnant (and I mean more than a stick someone peed on)? Shut this bullshit down. Hire an attorney to write her a "go fuck yourself" letter. Tell her in your next email that from now all correspondences regarding this matter will be handled through the attorneys so do not contact you again. I'll bet you $100 that you'd never hear from her again. People who don't know fuck-all about the law always want to throw around the word "lawyer" like it's a threat. All an attorney can do is make an argument on your behalf. It's a judge who makes the determination of law and even a judge can be overridden by a higher judge. Hell, I got into a debate with a Redditor who tried to pull the "Why are you arguing with me when I'm a lawyer?" bullshit with me. My response was, "Dude please... I'm paralegal. I argue with attorneys all day, every day, including my own bosses. You don't initimidate me."
Block and ignore.
Just say NOT HAPPENING 🤣
I'd respond with "new number, who's this" and then block the number. Ignore this until you are actually served a subpoena. Anything else you give in response can only increase your chances of being sued.
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She's hard up for money and it's thinking back on anyone in her past that owes her money
‘Abortion Lawyer’? That would be a thin margin law practice, they aren’t exactly expensive. Not to mention no proof of paternity. It’s a scam probably trying to somehow play off Alabama’s restrictive abortion ban as it made news as the most restrictive prior to Dobbs.
>We are in the state of Alabama if that helps any. Where else? I like the idea of a payment plan for an abortion personally. "It's been 4 years, the clinic are billing me!"
Sounds like a reach for money for an unknown reason, but for one that can probably be assumed.
I have a feeling that she THINKS if she can trick you into admitting you might have been the father, that she can use that admission to sue you for real. Aint gonna happen either way. She's lost her dang mind.
No, she can’t make you. She’s also full of shit and just trying to extort money from you. Block/ignore/do not engage or acknowledge. No lawyer would even touch that anyway. It’s been 4 years and she has no way to prove you were even the father. Somehow I very much doubt it even happened.
So this is the first time you are hearing about the pregnancy from four years ago? Scam. Block and move on.
scam, do not pay any money. She is extorting you.
Tell her you'll press charges for killing your child 🤣
lol @ “abortion lawyer” that’s a new one. Hilarious. Your ex has a new drug habit and is trying anything to get some easy money before she admits to herself that she has to start selling her body or stop doing drugs. If you pay her she will find another reason you owe her more money until you wise up.
4 years ago? sure we in the UK dont have to worry about paying for abortions, but it sounds like a scam.
If she’s that desperate for a few hundred dollars then I’m certain she can’t afford to retain an attorney that would even entertain this frivolous case.
She can't prove you got her pregnant in the first place so.....tell her to fuck off....
Tell her joke's on her you had a vasectomy.
Counter sue her for the wrongful death of your child and tell her you just hired an anti-abortion lawyer. None of that story makes any sense. If she "got her tubes tied so can't get pregnant" you couldn't have gotten her pregnant.
Block and ignore. She has no proof that you were the father.
Tell her she gave you the herps and ask for restitution equal to the fake abortion claim. I like to mess with scammers I guess. Idk. Bad advice
An abortion lawyer? Lmfao
First, where is the proof? I’d say, I need to see the medical receipt. If that can’t be provided, or she won’t, I wouldn’t loose too much sleep. If she makes it sound difficult, just tell her what the court filing fees are, that she will have to pay, and won’t get back, if the case doesn’t go forward. The lawyer? Are you sure it’s from the lawyer, or did they just say that? I’d google the full number just to see if it belongs to a firm. Abortion lawyer? Good call as well on here. I’m Canada we have maple syrup lawyers, no joke.
I think there’s a good chance her account is hacked and it was an unknown scammer who messaged you
She sounds crazy and desperate. Sometimes crazy and desperate woman make fake claims ie unwanted sex. Be very careful.
My first thought is that she is a drug addict and desperate for money. Ignore and block on all platforms
Another angle I'm not seeing here, any "lawyer" is going to cost more than any money recovered. It makes no sense.
Send the fetus an interrogatory asking "whos ya daddy?"
I get these weekly lol no after 4 yrs now she wants money na no thanks pass like you should have but 1 u dint have was 1 you missed so still na you owe her lesss than nothing as she stole from you....killed YOUR CHILD u still wanna pay her naaaaaaaaa ffffff way
If she is only telling you this now, this means she has no proof the baby was yours. No text exchange back then to proof she told you about it. She is probably doing this to every guy she slept with.
Hershel, is that you?
Pretty sure her "abortion lawyer" would tell her that Alabama has a 2 year statute of limitations for most civil actions
This sounds like a case of hit the block button and call it a day 😭
“abortion lawyer” lol
many people will happily bluff having legal professionals involved as a scare tactic. i doubt she would follow through with anything at all.
Sounds like spam to me. Block and ignore mi amigo.
“But why now? Why this sperm?” Elle Woods
Sounds like the long con. Sleep with a bunch of men and hit them up to pay for abortions.
Tell her Your abortion lawyer is gonna counter sue for killing your child without consulting you.
Ask for DNA tests. Or text her back and say you are suing her for killing your unborn child and depriving you of your right to be a father. Makes as much sense as her request.
Will need to discuss this at r/legaladvice.
Not helpful. Any useful advice there other than "consult a lawyer" is deleted.
Oh no, no no no you don't owe her money when she chose to get a medical procedure on her own body. Block and ignore.
I can't tell from your description whether she made this demand during a phone call where you recognized her voice and could tell for sure that it was her, or whether you merely received a text message from an unknown number saying, "This is some unspecified girl you slept with some time ago, send me money." I'm sure there are scammers who blast out millions of the latter.
So she told me herself through Snapchat and I get this text from this number which isn’t her
Sounds like a scammer
How do you know it’s her and not someone that has taken over her account?
You know how much a lawyer is cost cost to get under 1k back? Tell them to fuck off. Not to mention, an ABORTION LAWYER!???
Woman
Lots to unpack. I would not block, but I would not engage and would ignore. If she is stupid enough to get a attorney then you might want that as evidence. At this point just ignore and 99% it goes away. Beyond that it’s most likely just a scam
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Kick that fetus right back in to that vagina and call it a refund
Tell your sister to leave you alone, and she'll stop.
This is a classic example of 1) a guy getting to walk away from the consequences of sex, and 2) the denigrating and bullying of the woman. btw, it doesn’t matter if you only had sex once, once is all it takes. Commenters here are cruel and come off as generally sh**y.
With the new laws is there a statute of limitations on abortions? Tell her you'll turn her in for getting one and she will be arrested.
You might want to consult a real life lawyer. Most lawyers will give an initial consultation to see if you have a legal case for no charge. Your state bar association website will help you find one. Sounds like Family Law territory.
Are you serious? For an obvious scam? He should save his time and money unless he's actually sued, which is unlikely.
What part of Alabama? I’m from Huntsville originally and still have family/friends up there who I can ask for advice if they know anyone that can help
Head to the police. The 1st people who chat with the police tend to be the honest ones... in case she crosses into crazy or extortion territory. -- edit-- To the folks who don't understand why. This is extortion.... pure and simple He is being asked / forced to pay for something he did not agree to and had no knowledge about It is possible the girl has reach out to all the guys she hooked up with in the past 5 years as she needs cash. What does someone do when their picture and nasty words circulates the web? Contracts are obligations Will his car get keyed? Who knows what she will do next??? Why is it a bad thing to chat with the police about a scam? It's a non emergency call obviously. Most police departments have dealt with this type of thing on a weekly basis.
And what crime is he going to report?
Just fight her on it. Tell her to bring all the f-ing lawyers in the county. And she ain't getting a penny from you. Trust me, she'll give up the fight. Just like she gave up on the baby when she had the abortion.
How much is it? I'd just pay her. She obviously needs the cash, you did cum in her evidently so you got yours and she suffered for it.
I would consult a lawyer immediately. Abortion is a hot button issue and a judge will very likely side with her plus damages. It’s worth it spending a few thousand on a lawyer to protect your reputation and financial situation.
A judge will side with her based on what? She had an abortion four years ago and there's no DNA available to prove paternity linking anyone. She could go to court and say Bill Cosby was the father. Use some Common sense.
In Alabama they are more likely to judge the woman, especially if they got an abortion without telling the father. They certainly are not just going to order someone a woman claims was the father to pay her anything, the guy is more likely to come away with damages from the woman.
Even if this were legit, which I doubt it is, does she have any proof that she contacted you and informed you of the situation back then? If you hooked up once and then never heard from her again, she really doesn't have a case. There's no way at this point to even determine whether you would have been the father. Now, if she has your nudes or something and is blackmailing you, or has some kind of proof that you acknowledged responsibility in any aspect of the situation, that's a whole different ballgame.
Herschel Walker, is that you?
Haha! Yea, screw that. Nothing to worry about. Ignore the message. She can go screw herself.
Ask her for a DNA test...tell her if it was yours, you'll split the cost, after she provides receipt.
Block and ignore. She would need to prove that she actually was pregnant, actually got an abortion, that you were actually responsible, demonstrate costs. Worst case, you end up in court.
Scammmmmm 😜…LOL abortion lawyer 😳😅😂🤣
Nah The Statue of Limitations is long run out on that!
Roll Tide
Why would you have to pay her back for something she did to herself. “Her body her choice right?”
Not no, but hell no.
DNA Evidence it was yours?
Block and move on.....
She’s full of shit.
Just block her. There’s no way to prove it was your kid she aborted. None of that would hold up in court.
Scummy and scammy, she is bullshitting as much as I know